SKX Replacement Watch Revealed & My Seiko 5 Relaunch Reaction: GIAJ#10
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- As everyone who tunes in to the Urban Gentry regularly knows, the now discontinued iconic Seiko SKX is my favorite dive watch. Naturally, I had to do a quick episode of Gentry In A Jiffy (GIAJ) to share my first impressions of the rumored replacement of the SKX007, SKX009 and even the SKX011!
But this is no ordinary release, as it coincides with a 2019 rebranding of the entire historic Seiko 5 line of affordable watches. Why are Seiko doing this? What’s changed, and what has stayed the same? What do I like and dislike about them so far? In this video I am joined by the right dishonorable Hugo Mountbatten for a first look at this new era for the Seiko 5 and what it means for the brand and watch enthusiast community.
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You had one job seiko. Put the 4r36 in the classic skx. What do they do? Raise the price, and lower the water resistance. 🤦♂️
I know right!?
You had one job Seiko! One job!
@UCr4aUXslStRRlgxRGjp3Eew people will still want the classic skx for that water resistance, thats gonna raise the price on those right there. All the same, there's already dozens of desk divers in the seiko 5 line-up. I have one with a 4r36. I don't understand why they sacrificed the water resistance for it.
No pip on the bezel😐😬😱
@@Mnb506 Is the grey market the reason why there are issues with the QC? When I look at them in the retail store, they are pretty good...
The green dial seiko 5 is gorgeous👌⌚
Am I the only one who thinks that the new Seiko 5 logo looks like the Superman logo?
YESSSSSSS!
Wow, now you mention it! LOL
Thank you Sal,
Best regard,
TGV
Yes, it's a Superman logo tilted left at 45 degrees.
I agree. I don't like the new logo. I am a watch newbie and I only want to collect the old 5's.
No, that was also one of my first thoughts. Especially when TheUrbanGentry mentioned the "shield-like-character" of the logo! :)
The new logo seems to me a bit fancier for the targeted younger audience... I like the classic one better. And I don't think there can be a real replacement for the SKX...Even if they would replace the movement with hacking and so on. The "new SKX" would lose the characteristics, that made the original SKX special... You can't replace an original! :)
Totally agree!
Finally someone's talking about this without losing there mind. well done
I hope they'll make 38mm that is similar to SKX013. I love what they did with "5". Never liked "5" shield in Seiko 5.
Sickbrain agreed
I, on the other hand, find this new shield rather gross. I mean, can hardly call it a '5', now that it DOESN'T HAVE A FRIGGIN' '5' on it, now can we?
@@varanid9 It's a clever ambigram, actually. From the right side up, it looks like an S (for sports). Turn it upside down, and you get your 5. Also, this logo is for Seiko 5 Sports; the classic Seiko 5 logo will remain for the classic models.
Also the outer edges of the 5 has 5 Corners. i like that detail.
nope this is seiko 5 sports i guess that looks like the SKX ...or should i say SKX homage
It looks like the REAL SKX replacement is the Islander from Long Island Watch. Incredible!!!!
Hugo gets me every time😂😂
He deserves his own channel!
We are spoiled for choice now, instead of choosing between black bezel or pepsi bezel there are 27 actual options.
Yes it's a desk diver now, *but so are all of you*.
100m WR is more than enough for anyone who doesnt wear scuba gear.
I'm not! 😂 I take my old skx013 on every dive, and I dive for a living. But if I was buying now I would hardly be stuck for choices from Seiko, Citizen, or Orient to name just 3 at this approximate price point. I agree wholeheartedly with you that this relaunch is giving the majority of buyers what they want. That said, I have always felt that part of the legend with the skx, which added to its appeal for whoever was buying it, was that it was a real dive watch that could hang with the big boys. It had a seriousness that belied its accessibility. It was a bona fide tool watch. These new ones lose something with that, but perhaps they make it up in other ways.
Tbh if I'm 10m under water I'm probably a floating carcuss.
Real talk! The comment I was looking for
I like them and I think this is a clever move from Seiko...if they end up being sold at the right price, because $285 is way too salty when compared to the superb dive watches Orient are putting out for less money.
Well said Peter, thank you.
I would put money on it that why will go for less than $200 deffo IMO.
Best regards,
TGV
If there is many people go out buy orient. They still make money. And might raise price soon too. Don't forget they owned orient
Very pleased with my Orient and Seiko watches.
Orient Ray II was my first ever automatic watch that I got earlier this year and I haven’t timed it but I never have to adjust the time, it’s such a nice piece. Just ordered a Seiko 5 (37mm silver dial) for £110 so pretty happy with that. Saving for a Rolex now.
Peter Shallis my Orient is one of my favorite watches. Fits and feels great
Never an SKX replacement.
There is only SKX.
Only one.
👏👏👏
This.
Yeah and it's overrated
Wrong.
@@dannemannen18 nope
Part of the allure when I bought my first SKX was that it was a professional rated diver. Even though it never saw the water it's just nice to have that pop of red that says "Diver's 200M", and knowing that it's built to true professional standards. It kills the magic a little bit for me and I'm curious how that'll affect their sales on this new line.
disastrix47 Agreed. It would be a shame to lose that combination of affordable professional diver. The only thing I wanted them to do was put in the balance rather than counter-balance position. That and make it hackable.
These are Seiko 5's broken up into niche segments. A dive watch is a dive watch. They have taken the iconic look of the SKX and use it for the Seiko 5 level now. These clearly aren't divers as Seiko 5's have never been. The iconic look lives on instead of being killed off completely, and I for one appreciate that.
this isn't a divers watch
Roger Dottin “diver watches” have been a style of watch for many years now. A lot of manufacturers like Casio make diver style watches that are only certifed to 100m or less.
It’s like being pissed that a pilot watch doesn’t have an altimeter. It’s become a style of watch, not a lot of people actually use specific type of watches for specific jobs. Divers don’t wear watches, they wear diving computers. Pilots don’t wear pilot watches, they have their instrument panel.
It's aimed towards young people. Most of them will not care. (Young person here). I'll stick to my SKX.
Love the mesh bracelet and the black bezel version! Excellent Jiffy show T! Best Regards, Stuart
Lets be honest. I have many many dives to my name. And the statement “professional divewatch” is one I want to comment on.
Not even once in all my dives, did I use a “divewatch” as being sold by all the famous watchbrands.
Basically, the main feature you need in a divewatch is a depthsensor (i.e. pressure sensor). And not one of the famous watchbrands has a depthsensor. My main divewatch is a Suunto Vytec. More a divecomputer than a divewatch.
My mechanical divewatches in my watch collection I would NEVER EVER use for a dive. Especially not for diving in salt water.
Agree. I do use a dive watch to dive (skx013), but only because my dive computer doesn't display seconds and I need to time stuff. As a tool for actually diving dive watches went out with the ark.
Completely agree with you.As a former diver and spearhunter i always used my trusty Citizen Promaster Aqualand for the sea dives and a Suunto D2 for the swimming pool training sessions.Real dive watches are true instruments,"diver style watches can be functional but mostly are for show.
Most people that complain about the water resistance are probably takinh of their 600m WR watch before washing their hands 😂 I used my old 5s in water a lot, not diving but works great for swimming, showering and stuff like that. I haven't had a problem for years. And those have 30m WR. And yes real divers don't use traditional dive watches. I don't get why people still think that
Agree with your comment, however, Oris makes the mechanical "Depth Gauge" reference that does indicate depth (though I cannot attest to it's accuracy). Cheers!
People do wear them as backup. Dive computers can fail, at least you'd know how long you've been in.
Never thought I’d see hugo singing along to firestarter 🤣
Just no,Seiko are replacing an icon with a desk diver?
No,that's just wrong
Dean Waller
Exactly,Non iso,No screw Down Crown,No Lume pip on the Bezel,and halved the Depth Rating????
Seiko SKX Replacement my Arse!! But hey it’s got loads of Colours!!!! Seriously!!
We are going to crucify this on the Seiko Citizen Watch Forum😜
Seiko your Going backwards and it’s Money for old rope just like your Reissue Models with the “X” on the Dial which no one Likes!!!
Yup, that is exactly my thinking, I can take or leave manual winding, or hacking. But that ISO rating was what made the SKX unique at its pricepoint. To lose out on that makes it just another desk diver in my eyes, which the market is flooded with, I have worn an SKX013 for years and absolutely love thing thing, these 5s on the other hand barely blip my interest.
Neil Davison yeah, I hate the x on the dial, too! Plus, they look nowhere nearly as good as the SKX in my book!
Exactly!! That's why I ordered 2more original skx007 on straps😍. I want to always have a new Seiko skx007 around for the rest of my life😂 . Price within 10years $600+
@@surfside75 yup, when mines due its 10 year service it'll likely get a 6R movement popped in anyway.
And that, my friends, is why Tristano will always be valuable to the watch community.
Such a respectful, laid back analysis. Thank you.
Tristano?
Tristano???
@@Kydos37 It's his name !
It's a nice move but it makes me want the SKX even more now. I might have to bite the bullet. To have an affordable watch with the ISO stamp IS AWESOME. If there is a hidden trend these days, it would be to have a "style" like design, but not the functional side of things. Mmm, back to deciding between a K or J SKX :)
I would of liked to see a version without a date window. I feel like Seiko constantly tries to impress with more but I'd like something that can make a statement with less... at least as an option :)
"quality is going to be..... Sufficient" LMAO
I would have preferred a sapphire crystal but not necessary, the fail here is the screw down crown. Very disappointing.
Joshua Briggs but it’s a push pull crown not a screw down
@@ritzk79 I think he means " the fail here is the (lack of a ) screw down crown, hence the halved water resistance.
Agreed. The push/pull crown and exhibition case-back are deal killers for me. I’ll keep my SKX’s.
@@exploringhistory5796 you do that BUT make sure you wear it EVERYDAY considering the movement is TERRIBLE. My guess is you have NEVER been diving so dont bore me with that argument, it comes down to aesthetics, a pip and a random 200m, which in all honesty, would hardly be considered diver legit (IF you WERE a REAL diver) the rest is personal opinion.
Danny Fierro. Rather arrogantly opinionated aren’t you dear boy. Don’t be so passive aggressive.
"This is skx in aesthetic, not in performance" Spot on TGV. I'm all about aesthetic as I never go underwater :) Waiting to see how much these sell for and the quality before passing judgement! Is this the "real" replacement, who knows - maybe we get something in the Prospex line next.
You have to say this is smart business by Seiko- why let other builders/ modders take your potential business?
I'm not distraught that it's not a 'true diver' now, and after seeing the range I would love to own so many of these, so perhaps the marketing department does know what it's doing! Although I am a bit of a tart so the case colour and dial variations appeal.
Look forward to some of your reviews- if possible I'd love a closer look at the textured dial models, and the dark grey/ black cases. Oh, and please clear up whether the 'proper skx' replacement model has a navy dial or black!
Many thanks, take care.
Dang you Seiko! My wife is going to make me sleep in the dog house for sure now!
Good video TGV. I personally loved the line up. It will save the effort of modifying a SKX.
I'm not too impressed with the lower water resistance. Then again, lets see the price when they hit Amazon.
Really? So when did you last dive to past 100m (328ft) and why weren't you wearing a dive computer for safety?
@@17Blower I don't see the point for your sarcasm. My point is all about how much those new Seiko watches will cost compared to more inexpensive watches that have a higher depth rating.
Love the suits line black with patina markers, mesh wrist band that one is for me!!!
Superman! Everyone’s worrying about the new seiko 5 path. But this is just sports. Don’t forget there’s seiko 5 dress watches etc etc
Wish they had it in a 38 😭
small wrist unite!!
The obligatory "wish this was 38mm" comment. Every single video for watches 40mm+
Lol.
No one in their right mind skates wearing an automatic timepiece! But oh well, MARKETING! Am I right? 😂
I really hope they'll make an updated version of the Skx013, that would be cool!
Sports SKX replacement: I come in peace. I have a mission to replace the original SKX.
Original SKX: You are a toy!!!
this is very true
As stated already, the majority of consumers (myself included) buying a "Professional Diver's" watch will never wear it in the swimming pool, let alone to the depths of the great blue. I think what Seiko has done here is just plain smart business. Personally I do not mind a 100m rated watch vs. a 200m. Great video as always.
Definitely buying this when it releases ! Going to be my first “diver watch“ I ever owned. Like the fact it’s finally manual wind and hackable. Don’t mind the fact the water resistance dropped a bit since I’m never going to use it for that purpose , just need it to be water proof. Can’t wait !😍
Congratulations. You are exactly who they want as a customer. Somebody who doesn't understand that a diver must be a diver.
@@FT4Freedom you don't get it, it's a "dive style" watch not a diver
I own one of these and love it. It's not a dive watch though.
It's a good looking watch and I like the movement but it's absolutely not the new SKX. The SKX goes 200M ,has a screw down crown,is ISO Certified. The new Seiko 5 is more of a fashion watch with all respects. As for the SKX movement I don't mind the no hand winding. My watch just needs a small shake and keeps going. As for hacking I really don't care so the SKX007 is my No.1 watch.
Interesting is that Rolex gets more and more jubilee ( gmt, batman.. ) and seiko replacing the jubilee for the oyster ..
A dive watch with only 100m water resistance..... Why can't companies raise water resistance on "dive watches". They are already using a case that would be good for it, why not go the extra step? Furthermore why doesn't Rolex have a 300m water resistance on its GMT, it's the same case and wouldn't cost that much more........... ??????
I think having variety is definitely a good way to go, but would prefer it if they do not replace the skx. Having both would be great imo
The new Seiko 5 line is all good and nice, but it is hardly a successor of the SKX. What was so special about the SKX was that it is a 200€ watch that can look any Fifty Fathoms or Sea Dweller into the eye and not flinch. Every serious watch guy has one, because it was too good and to affordable too miss. I remember myself sitting at the North Sea, thinking about what end game diver to buy (shortlist was GS or Blancpain) and then looked at my SKX and though: Why buy another diver at all? I perfectly fine! Those new Seiko 5s are more entry level, „just one more watch“ style of watches, while the SKX is a true endgame watch. I‘ve spend much more money on straps, bracelets and mods for my SKX007 then on the watch itself and in the end, returned to factory configuration. The 4R movement though is a nice upgrade. Those movements can perform exceptionally good.
I'm about to buy a turtle Pepsi dial PADI.....before its too late !
I just ordered one yesterday lmao
Turtles ain't going nowhere
Yessssss!
its iconic but i never cared for it. maybe james cameron can revive it with another movie. seiko is always to damn chunky. no hacking or hand winding?! mineral crystal, stamped clasp. SEIKO are the kings of mediocrity.
Wish there wax a 38mm! Hugo cracks me up! You crack me up!🤣
I'm sorry Tris , but they ruined this watch. Yeah, they upgraded the movement, but downgraded the watch! Now it is a shitter wannabe diver watch. They took away the screwdown crown powers the water resistance, and raised the price. There is no defending this bold F.U. that Seiko did to us. This is NOT a good move, and I can't believe that you think this is a good thing. I'm disappointed in you. This is only a hundred dollar watch!
All we SKX fans wanted were the upgraded movement, better bracelet, and sapphire crystal on our ISO rated diver's watch, not a downgraded shitter!!! Not all of us like the ugly Turtle. Well, at least I already have quite a few SKX's.
Yes, this is officially a Seiko 5 with an SRPD ref code now, not SKX. But, I think you'd be foolish to think this wasn't where the former SKX is now residing moving forward.
As such, for the SKX line, I still think this is 1 step forward and 3 steps back. Not going to get into the superficial cosmetic options. Yes, you finally get a 4R36 movement. But, you lose 200m WR and consequently the ISO certified rating, no screwdown crown and I believe the lume pip is also removed as most, if not all, Seiko 5's have neither of these lost features. Some say the SKX was always part of the Seiko 5. IDK, don't really care about that... nearly all Seiko 5 specs are unlike the SKX's which were really closer to Prospex watches, imho.
I know these will sell either way and almost nobody uses these for any serious diving purposes. But, that is beside my point. What once was a legitimate tool watch for divers has now been downgraded mostly spec-wise. It's ashamed since the SKX's lineage can really trace its way back through many iterations and the famous 6105. I mean that's a long fairly well-known line of watches which many would consider serious and reliable dive watches for decades. Now, it is not.
I mean look at all the advert pics and none of them are remotely in or near a body of water, nor share any sort of dive heritage, where the former SKX should naturally belong within.
And, in typical Seiko fashion, they either give you something you wanted for a while (such as hacking & hand-winding movement + new colors) and take things away and charge you more for it. Or, they might give you everything you probably wanted (the 62mas and 6105 reissues for somewhat recent starters) but will make the big leap and charge you an arm and leg for it.
Don't get me completely wrong. I think Seiko 5's are great. There are a lot of really cool ones. And, these new "SKX-like" Seiko 5's will make fairly good entry-level watches for Seiko, not necessarily entry-level dive watches anymore, however. And, probably a great starting platform for mods also.
But, I still think the spirit and more professionally spec'd SKX prior to these watches has taken a negative hit. Personally, I felt it may have been more logical to upgrade and rightfully elevate the SKX status officially into the Prospex line instead of Seiko 5. I mean people saying the Prospex is too large already aren't entirely correct. I mean there are probably even way more Seiko 5 models than many know about.
Excellent points.. They are simply being honest with what the watch actually is.. Not exactly used for diving by the people who wear them. Wonder if The SKX007/009 will go up in value?
It looks like an skx but it doesn't have the spirit of a real '' do it all watch''
Can you please make your content inclusive and accessible to everyone by formatting the auto captioning into closed captioning please? it is very hard to enjoy your content relying on only the auto captioning sadly (I'm Profoundly Deaf)
You knew this as I kept asking for a long time, and you choose to ignore it.
Yeah man, I'm deeply offended you're sitting at a desk instead of on a couch.
This very much looks like Seiko is trying to cash in on the popularity of the SKX! What they should have done is given the SKX the applied indices, the movement upgrade and the dial color options of the SKX wannabe, increase the water resistance to 300 meters and call it the SKX.2!
That would be insanely cool, expensive, but insanely cool all the same.
Thank you Paco, great comment.
Best regards,
TGV
The Urban Gentry Just telling it like it is! Thanks for the reply! 🙂
Well it's not diver iso anymore 🙄
Has a Seiko 5 ever been? Just because they look like a professional dive watch doesn't mean they should be viewed as such.
Do any of us even dive the 200m?
If I buy a Ford Mustang, I don't want it to be governed at 90mph, even though I'll probably never drive it over 90mph.
@@chrishunter9784 I own 3 seikos, I'm a fan trust me
@@gadierespino6775 the difference is quality and peace of mind
Reducing water resistance very bad move. I like the style of the 5 logo, but they should not have messed with a classic. The SKX / 007 will be reborn. Simply a matter of marketing to generate renewed interest and hype.
hahah Hugo doing Karaoke is something I never thought I'd see...
I love Seiko and I'm sure these are decent beater/EDC watches, and they'll make a ton of money and new fans for Seiko, but this seems like pure marketing strategy and I can't see any other point than that, especially since they downgraded such a classic. Like you say, it's just for the looks, no substance at all. If one is into watchs only for the aesthetics, there are far better and cheaper options. Each to their own, I guess.
needs that jubilee bracelet though
Nooooooooooooooo lol
I bought the blue one but this will not replace my SKX, i dont enjoy the new one as much as i enjoy my old 007 and 009. I regret buying this
Soul is lost with much lower water resistance. It’s no more a professional dive watch. Period.
These are Seiko 5's with the iconic look of the SKX. Seiko 5's have never been dive watches. Nothing new.
@@john-carlosynostroza You're missing the point... How many Rolex Sea-Dwellers have actually used their helium release valve? But who wants to buy one without it?
it's not a dive watch period let alone professional dive watch
john-carlos ynostroza , with utmost respect and love for all watch enthusiasts on this forum, the only point I make here is that Seiko has now robbed SKX of the most critical function that made it one of the most iconic watches around notwithstanding tons of divers available in their line-up.
Diving computer replaces Dive watch for decades. Casual swimming is the only place for "diver's watch".
Diving is not such a casual activity to only rely on a mechanical watch.
Safety first.
@Vivek Jalan but they never said its an SKX replacement. The clear successors of SKX is the many other divers watch like the prospex line
Its a Seiko 5.
It just borrows styles from the SKX.
IMO its much better they do it this way than letting the SKX die of old age with nothing else to show it ever existed.
What’s with all the negative comments. I love the new watches. You guys are stuck in the past. You can buy all the SKX’s you want so don’t get depressed. Let the rest of us who don’t want to wear the same watch as everyone else have some fun.
In my opinion they should have kept the tradicional skx design and only upgrade the movement, they should focus on creating new everyday watches with the quality of their sarb Line.. It would be interesting to see a revisited version of the sarb 033! But They still do a great job and seiko offer a lot for a very affordable price! Very good videos by the way! My best regards to you and to Mr Hugo as well.:)
I only wish they would have compromised with a 40mm case.
That way it tilts towards both the small and the large wrists.
Really pisses me off there isn’t a 38mm one!
Alex the Lego guy fortunately it’s only 46 mm lug to lug so it’s going to fit a lot of wrists
The price is a big mistake. I'll never pay 250 and up in a Seiko 5. I don't like the way Seiko is changing
the RRP is less than the SKX RRP. Prices will come down.
The original SKX line also cost somewhere in the $250s retail. The price that most people paid is because of the sheer overproduction and oversaturation of the SKX in the market.
@@tunokiesYeah, standard pricing.
I liked the SRPD59K1 so much, I bought one ... and it's lovely!
That intro is pure class.
Better off getting a SRP599 or a Vostok Amphibia which is 200m
The esthetics are spot on. However, I still think they should have included a threaded crown and bump up the water resistance. On the other hand, it would be a perfect every day desk diver. Hopefully it will bring a fresh batch of enthusiasts into the hobby.
Regards,
Koen
Agreed. The unthreaded crown on even a "diver-style" keeps me from liking these much.
Wow. I am excited. I was checking this new line of Seiko out yesterday. So happy to get your opinion TGV. I’m Planning on buying at least four or five of these over the next year or so.Seiko is King !! What did you think about the new logo? The new five. I think it’s super cool it looks like an S and it looks like a 5. I only have one small tattoo, that I’ve had for almost 50 years, but I’m considering getting that new 5 put on somewhere. If my wife approves. LOL. That’s how much I love Seiko. I think I Will contact Seiko and see I can get about 10 watches for the free advertisement.
Wearing a 007 with a NATO as I'm watching.
Same here, 007 on a Bond NATO ^_^
The
Only way to wear one!
Seiko 5 Aimed for the younger generation with so many designs great idea ... And plus wearing a real wrist watch and not relying on there Iphone
Nah, I don't think it's a SKX replacement, it's a fun watch for new enthusiasts. Maybe the new gateway drug from Seiko?
Yes, one of the very few here with some common sense. Its a fun Seiko 5 with an SKX aesthetic. Not hard to understand.
you should be shooting a watch documenatry with netflix
@tgv Can you do a begginers guide video on the inner workings of a watch?
Woooooooooow
Just better have a Jubilee, never an SKX feeling wise without a jubilee
And I love the big 5 big the SKX isn’t the SKX without the RED 200 under the hands
Having that 70s weird feel
I will say the fonting looks so much better I love the style of the 5 and font of automatic but I’d miss the RED200
And I’m scared only for I wanted an SKX but don’t want to buy this for cheaper and it be less water proof then my first watch of all things...
MY PRO DIVER WHAT?! 😅
Maybe in 10 or 20 yrs we'll get Spring Drive for us common folks. Ha Ha
Still pretty cool. I have been seeing a lot more turtles & tunas. Glad to see more people jumping on board.
He's right, needs an SKX013 version. Maybe 39mm instead of 40?
The evolution of the SKX is inevitable...whether we like it or not, new models definitely will attract a lot of Seiko fans and I hope the new generations appreciate true horology.Thanks for the video.
Thing is, it's hard to see it as an evolution when the piece is downgraded in almost all departments compared to the SKX--all while raising the price.
Evolution? This is a step backwards... No Improvements have been made here.
@@atticus6572 Agreed. Less watch for same or more money = Downgrade. It's a big NO from me.
Actually, as a 20 yo who has been saving for a 009, I find the Pepsi bezel 5kx a better and more affordable option (at least in my country, you only find skx at +$300). If you add the hacking and handwinding its nothing but good news for me.
A t.rex singing,(firestarter) pure genius.love this show lol.
My mind is made up, I will never sell my 009. Great video again mate
I see this as an appealing alternative to fashion watches, giving younger watch enthusiasts a choice for a legitimate proper mechanical watch. This watch has improved indicies over the standard SKX with surrounds around the lume. Granted the lack of a lume pip on the bezel and non ISO makes this more of a casual watch than a diver. But lets us all be honest with ourselves. First, most people never used the SKX as a true professional dive watch anyway, and second, without the SKX, seiko still has about 11 skillion more divers to pick from, some of which can be had for 300 bucks all the way up to 5000 dollars. This is a welcome mat of colors and styles for a broader range of watch buyers who will not need a PADI or ISO certified watch. Further, this is a nod to the modders, and the fun of making a watch their own. This is Seiko taking small part in that whole modding culture offering a canvas with some work already done rather than the blank white canvas of the bog standard SKX007/009. When watches get modded by most hacks like myself at home, we install a new seal and lube it properly and do what we can, but we do not have the equipment to ensure its 200m water tight any more anyway. So the 100M and the hacking and hand winding is is a breath of fresh air. I see this as pure win for Seiko.. Smart move and will be wildly successful in ushering more people into the mechanical watch hobby. I say Bravo.
In my humble opinion the Orient Kamasu beats it at more than one level....Depending on it's final pricepoint when it releases.
What will I do without the "extra" 100m of water resistance? Truth is that if my watch and I find ourselves in more than 20 FEET of water, I'm probably dealing with worries far greater than a leaky watch.
I don't know why people fret so much about the WR compared to the SKX. I'm happy to be able to buy a Seiko in the SKX style and being able to hand wind it and not bother unscrewing the crown every time I do so. And as far as price goes, I think almost no one is paying $295+ for these watches. I just bought a 95 for
I definitely agree here. It’s funny you mention how unscrewing the crown is not necessary - I just got it today and the manual said to pull the crown out to set the time (probably since it is also the manual for the 7S26!) ... I was really confused how it was changing the day of the week but eventually figured out that you can just wind it in its natural pushed-in state. Hope you enjoy your 95, it is a beautiful watch.
Style over substance, which unfortunately used to be the opposite of Seiko. I see what they’re trying to do, but I just don’t agree with how they executed it.
should i go buy an skx013? going for about 250$ now
If they discontinued the SKX for these it is not a very good idea if they also sell skx it is an awesome idea
Where’s the skx013? Are they not making a 38mm?
They should've created a new Seiko (6 )line of watches??? and place these in around $250!
These seem to cater more to modders???
Any idea whether the new SKX components are interchangeable with the current SKX??? I really like the applied indices and don’t want to pay £100+ for a rare SKX 171 dial
Great question, as this is the same SKX case I would assume so!
Thank you Dan,
Best regards,
TGV
In for 1. Cant have too many SKX ish watches. What color though thats the problem. Collect them all maybe? lol
Another great Video Sir.. I love Seiko without a doubt.. But I’m not feeling these new releases.. Maybe they’ll be a grower.. I think I’d go for the SBDC range instead.. Onwards and upwards!! BMJ ENGLAND 🏴
Sorry TGV, but your favorite diver isn't a diver anymore!
The new sks is over .$100 , and the dial look’s ugly, the old one is the best
Not as nice as the old ones very blah
I’m looking to get this specialist model.
Lol Hugo “I’ve bugered this up!” 😆
Like replacing the Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch without "Flight-Qualified by NASA". Maybe a nice watch, but not an SKX.
Yes, you get it. This is not an SKX, it's a Seiko 5 that looks like an SKX. Seiko 5's have always had 100m water resistance. Nothing new.
I would love to see the faux patina version in GLORIOUS 38mm! Thanks for the video, TGV! Loved it and your take on it!
The more I watch this video, the more I want to buy an SKX until it's still available.
In fact I already bought SKX 007, 009 and 011!
Seiko has never changed the skx and they never will change the skx Seiko never has discontinued the skx and Seiko never will discontinue the skx, it's too much of a cash cow, Seiko will never stop producing it. Mark my words. Facts.
The classic is done and gone.... Within 10years a new unworn original skx007 will be $600+✔️
That's why I bought 2more. Probably getting another 2more😂🍻🌿💙🇱🇷✝️
This is not a replacement! It is not a diver so how can it be! Just a fashion watch that looks similar to the SKX
All they had to do was upgrade the movement to a 4R36 and KEEP the ISO Diver's certification.
Oh wait - they already did that with the Samurai & Turtle. But not everyone like the Turtle or the 3 O'clock crown on the Samurai.
I guess if you're looking for a 200m dive watch with a 4 o'clock crown that's not in a turtle case, look anywhere other than Seiko.
3rd-party microbrands are going to take the money Seiko just left on the table with SKX-style cases w/4 o'clock crowns and NH36 movements.
For everyone else, there's the Casio Duro. ;-)
I think since Seiko are the watch modders favourite blank canvas, Seiko are returning the compliment with these watches. They reflect a many of the current trends in watch customisation and demonstrate that Seiko are keen observers of what goes on with their timepieces once they've left the factory. This trend for following the back street heroes of watch modding is precisely what the Japanese motorcycle industry started doing in the early 00's, with the advent of the so called 'factory customs'. The adoption of fashion cues from the bikes that were emerging from custom builders workshops and out on the streets. Its a cute marketing ploy and plays right into the the notion of selling more watches to a younger generation. Cool looking watches, right out of the box without having to do all the tricky moves to have the watch looking just how you want it to look.
Sooo a neutered skx for 100+ $ more , sounds like Seiko is trying to become a hypebeast brand
Roll Over That is the retail price. They might get retail price or more for me LOL but in the long run you will pick one up for about $200 or less. Who drives anyway? What maybe one out of 100 buyers
Big Mistake
If you buy one, you can't say when asked " is that a SKX on your wrist? That's a great watch!" And you say No, it's a seiko 5...and they look at you and say " Oh, that's to bad, sorry. "
I wait and pray everyday for an entire chapter by Hugo reviewing Patek Philippe big complicated watches while listening to Prodigy! ;) Best regards!
Love the applied logo, love the classic 'automatic' script but the tilted S is butt-ugly. Couldn't be bothered about the depth rating as the deepest I go is 6 ft. in a swimming pool...