Boss IR 200 VS Strymon Iridium - Full Comparison.

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  • in this video, I compare the Strymon Iridium to the new Amp and IR cabinet offering from Boss the IR-200.
    Hers what Strymon say about the Iridium
    The pedal-sized Strymon Iridium gives you the tube staging, tone stack, and touch response of three iconic amplifiers, each with three corresponding cabinet choices, all in a line-level stereo output, which you can send straight to FOH - no amp required. Iridium’s Class A JFET preamp handles your guitar and stomps just like a true tube amp. Its analog front end feeds a powerful 2-stage DSP processor that carefully approximates the tube bias, harmonic breakup, cone compression, and EQ interaction of some of your favorite front ends. Whether you’re playing the blues through a chunky American 1 x 12-inch or raising the roof through a dimed British high-watt amp, the Strymon feels and handles much like your favorite stacks and combos. A preset switch gives the Iridium the functionality of a 2-channel amp for clean/dirty applications, with an additional 300 accessible via MIDI switch. Meanwhile, a front headphone jack lets you monitor yourself directly from the stage - no in-ears required.
    Heres what Boss say about the IR-200
    Introducing the IR-200, the most advanced compact amp/IR solution available. This powerhouse stomp brings next-level performance to direct sound for guitar and bass, offering exceptional audio quality, premium amps, deep sound shaping, and instant sound recall with 128 memories. Over 150 hi-res cab impulse responses from BOSS and Celestion Digital are on board, plus 128 locations for loading your own mono or stereo IRs.
    The IR-200 turns your pedalboard into a self-contained direct sound solution for live playing, studio recording, and practice. It delivers massive amp tones from a small footprint and smoothly integrates with all your favorite pedals, including stereo mod, delay, and reverb effects. And once you craft your tones, you can send them to a stage amp, house PA, computer recording system, or headphones-or all at once.
    This is a sponsored video as Boss have provided the pedal but the thoughts and comments are my own.
    The Studio Rats are core band members Paul Drew on guitar/production/mixing, drummer James Ivey and Dan Hawkins on bass. They collaborate with singers and musicians to produce radio-ready songs.
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  • @jemandthemystery
    @jemandthemystery 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Taste is individual so for what it’s worth, I have owned both (along with a Kemper, Helix rack) but I cannot help but feel there is a heavy bias in the Studio Rat videos towards the Boss. There needs to be full disclosure who is paying for what here. I looked up other videos where he compare the Boss and spends the whole video telling you what you’re hearing. Hmm….
    I say this because, in my experience, the Boss sounded thin and synthetic while the Iridium sounded warmer and more organic. No, not a real amp or a Fractal 3 but good enough for most use cases. Good playing in a song mix most people would never know the difference soundwise so it comes down to practicality for your particular setup. The only thing I really like about the Boss was that its OS and layout and some nice reverb. The Iridium also can take stereo panned cab sims by the way and you can audition cab sims “live” before saving them to the device - something the Boss cannot do with their clunky IR software program.

  • @christopherjrager
    @christopherjrager 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    There are so many variables that are different between the two units, and it's tough to really judge from a side by side comparison. From experience, the IR-200 comes with some pretty in-your-face presets, but once you start dialing in your own custom tones, things start to chill out a bit (in a good way!). I think that the JC-120 modeling on the IR-200 is awesome. For me, that JC palate plus the stereo effects loop is such a home run for a pedalboard ampless set up.

  • @djabthrash
    @djabthrash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All these clips sounded amazing haha. Being able to get these with one single pedal is a trip !

  • @ReddenDoom
    @ReddenDoom ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A video with a decisive opinion!? Thumbs up. Listening on good headphones the IR-200 was clearly in a different league, which is an issue for Strymon given the price similarities. People like to complain about menu diving but with IR's its basically required anyway and I feel there's a much easier path back to good tones than you might find on a different Boss effect pedal.

  • @robertmitchell2178
    @robertmitchell2178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, lovely frets on your Tele!

  • @banditgrovmalet
    @banditgrovmalet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great review! I've been using the Strymon Iridium on tour for venues with capacity 800-2000 this spring. Iridium takes pedals very well, just like a real amp. Took some time getting used to the in-ear monitoring since we all use silent rigs, but it sounds absolutely amazing from a FOH point of view.

    • @IceGuitarist23
      @IceGuitarist23 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you use a D.I. Box as the outputs are unbalanced?

  • @nedim_guitar
    @nedim_guitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    12:28 that some 20 seconds lick is pretty darn great! The bends are spot on and with vibrato too! I'm not a great guitarist, but hearing things like this is a great reference on how to use bends and vibrato. Using my ears and letting loose, get into the feeling!

  • @RobertDorschel
    @RobertDorschel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video, exactly what I needed, to the point. Sold me on the BOSS unit.
    New subscriber now.
    Need a similar video on the BOSS MD-200 and …? Other all in one mod pedals

  • @bluesignmusic6020
    @bluesignmusic6020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good afternoon! Enjoyed the video! Comparing Amps and IRs is there a difference between IR 200 AND IR 1000?

  • @jips123
    @jips123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    The sounds are highly dependent on the ir. What if you load the exact same ir’s in both units and then compare? The influence of the amp modeling will then show.

    • @Techo1329
      @Techo1329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly, found that out with my GT-1000 Core once I loaded in extra IR's. For any given amp choice/settings you get wildly differing tones just by switching the IR.

    • @Mennenth
      @Mennenth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's really the problem I have with a lot of these comparison videos.
      The ir aims to replicate the characteristics of the speaker, which as the thing actually making the sound has the largest impact on the sound. So of course the ir's would play a huge role in how these pedals would sound, but I cant think of a single video where they messed with the ir's; its all just been comparing the amp side of things, and on that front I'm very much willing to believe that if the iridium comes stock with some absolutely stunning ir's compared to the competition then of course people will continue to say it sounds better in these videos that dont mess with the ir's.
      I want to see an "absolutely everything as equal as it can be" comparison.

    • @TheOnlyGuitarFather
      @TheOnlyGuitarFather 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is more of a out the box comparison

  • @scottraycraft5151
    @scottraycraft5151 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent review...everything ive read agrees with you...i will be buying an ir200 soon...

  • @CliveBarnesMusic
    @CliveBarnesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Thanks for posting. What I haven't seen explained in any of these videos is the best way to hook up either of these to the PA for live use. I've read about the Iridium not working with some DI boxs, is this true of both.? I have two Radial J48s. They're an active DI. would they work with the Boss IR 200...? Thanks again for a great video.

    • @antipsychosoup6709
      @antipsychosoup6709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've run my Iridium in all kinds of different ways into DI(s) and have never had any issues whatsoever. I've done stereo from the Iridium into 2 passive DI's, stereo into active DI's, and mono to both as well. I've also recently started running the Iridium through the effects loop of my HX Effects and used the stereo out from there into DI's. Never any issues.

  • @robertfalconer5054
    @robertfalconer5054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review Paul...

  • @777strat
    @777strat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Paul, great videos...I always look forward to see what you'll demo next! Question...your direct tone, whether it be a tube amp or amp modeler are consistently excellent and of the highest quality; from your guitar/amp or modeler what is your signal path when creating your demo videos? Thanks! John

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, Cheers. I just go into a Universal Audio Apollo interface.

    • @777strat
      @777strat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheStudioRats Thank you Paul, sounds fantastic!

  • @jeshely
    @jeshely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Impressed by the IR 200. By the way that is one sweet sounding and looking Tele!

  • @etrivard
    @etrivard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:23 absolutely lovely melody out of those chords, very beautiful. Perfect match for that tone. Thank you Paul and the rats :)

  • @JeffLearman
    @JeffLearman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison demo, THANKS! BTW, you could demo the headphone out for us, just plug it into a pair of line inputs. It'd have been nice to hear! Also, the compressor that keeps kicking in is a bit distracting. But, that's just nit-picking; really great and useful review.

  • @Mojoman57
    @Mojoman57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks.

  • @djb3545
    @djb3545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Which has a better clean sound? I think the main difference is that the Boss seems to take pedals better.

  • @robotjeans
    @robotjeans 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My IR200 arrived today, absolutely perfect for playing in my flat and not disturbing anyone.

  • @steveregotti8542
    @steveregotti8542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing!!!!

  • @paultoczylowski997
    @paultoczylowski997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks I just bought one
    .thanks for a great review and great playing
    Both pedals sound great
    I have a friend who prefers iridium because the sound .in his words. Is less compressed
    I prefer the slightly compressed feel of the roland
    Have a great day

  • @gottastayfocused
    @gottastayfocused 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding review Paul!
    I've loved all your videos.
    I ordered my ir200 after you reviews.
    Even though I have a sansamp ps-1,
    Propod and AmplifiTT ! I like how it will sit on my pedalboard.
    And by the way your an outstanding
    player !!

  • @armandosinger
    @armandosinger 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Excellent demo. I’ve also been looking at the new Boss ME-90, which seems like it can do everything this unit can do (except can store fewer IRS). Plus you get a bunch of pedals with the ME-90, for the same price as the IR-200. Do you think there is a compromise in amp sim quality in the ME-90 vs the dedicated IR-200?

    • @DD_Franks
      @DD_Franks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would like to know as well.

    • @themomentkiller9167
      @themomentkiller9167 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is far less tweaking available in the ME90 in regards to eq, microphones, distance, cabinets etc. The IR200 also lets you use two different amps simultaneously as a blend. And lastly, the processor in the IR is far more powerful. Hope that helps 🙂

  • @ROKZLEON
    @ROKZLEON 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoy your videos and playing! The IR-200 seems to have this compression thing going on that's kind of weird, at least to my ears. Hopefully, at some point, I'll be able to hear an IR-200 in person.

    • @JeffLearman
      @JeffLearman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The compression was happening for both, and was very noticeable. It's due to how he recorded it, and not coming from either pedal. What the heck was he using, a phone? Or maybe a field recorder with auto gain setting?

  • @MetaphysicalMusician
    @MetaphysicalMusician 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've played the ir200...it blew me was..it responds like an amp...I'm sold

  • @racerx8335
    @racerx8335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    demo was great with tele. awesome job.

  • @djritm3215
    @djritm3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don’t own either of them, but to me the Boss wins. Sounds nice.

  • @peterschaefer1665
    @peterschaefer1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does the Reverb spill over when you change presets?

  • @arthurperez4884
    @arthurperez4884 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I listen to him the Boss wins by a landslide. But if I listen to the sound of the pedals the Strymon just sounds more natural. It sounds anolog (I don’t know if it truly is) and the Boss actually sounds digital and much more polite, smooth and polished. It seems to my ears the Iridium would cut through better. This is judging simply from the sound in this video. It might be different in person.

  • @jodykite5009
    @jodykite5009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Paul. How do you compare the Boss amp models to the quad cortex captures in terms of sound and amp like feel? I know the quad cortex is a bigger unit, but it’s still comparatively small and could be used in a similar way to the boss on a pedal board or as a standalone unit.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cheers Jody. I found the Quad Cortex just had too many options and I ended up with option paralysis. I prefer the feel of the IR-200 and for that reason I sold the QC.

    • @attillal4821
      @attillal4821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheStudioRats this is why i sold mine. Too many options.
      Ive owned the mini jubilee for a few months now, and i feel way more inspired to play than i have with any other modeller I’ve owned. I will say though now i understand why some wont swap from amps to modellers , its that amp in the room , responsiveness under your fingers feeling and sound that i haven’t experienced in amp modelling.
      Each to their own though, there is know right or wrong way.
      The difficult part is finding out what suits you individually and whats best for you in the moment.

  • @DToneQuest
    @DToneQuest 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these the same tones inside the 1000core / gt1000 ? or is this a step up from those tones??

  • @davidjoel111
    @davidjoel111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the output on this units buffered? I feel that if you’re going to front of house you’ll need a long cable and if those output are not buffered the signal will be greatly degraded. Btw great tones!

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boss pedals are usually buffered. Is the IR-200 to be considered a proper pedal? I don't know. Maybe put a boss loop pedal or something after the IR-200, and maybe it will do the trick.
      Anyway, I guess the answer will be found in the manual.

  • @OW79
    @OW79 ปีที่แล้ว

    And what did you get from the different interfaces? Can you just get on with the IR-200 or is the Iridium much smoother? Contemplating a purchase here, really wanna know :)

  • @devezencuando
    @devezencuando ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you tell me what is this headphones that you use with the IR-200? And why do they work different on that unit than they would do on the Iridium?

  • @stephenkennedy7347
    @stephenkennedy7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Strymon Iridium has limitations (which might not be a bad thing) and I needed to get a Strymon Flint for Reverb and Tremelo but I have found the sound to be very realistic. I like all analogue controls with no screen. The Boss IR200 didn't convince me sound wise and there are too many options so a lot of time is wasted chasing a sound. But both are excellent and it is down to personal preference and the Strymon Iridium works for me.

    • @livemusicbarfly
      @livemusicbarfly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree. The Iradium sound real why the boss is just like any other digital modelling unit. And just can’t help to notice the heavy plug for the boss unit in this video. I guess they did pay for this.

  • @biagiodiruocco
    @biagiodiruocco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your nice channel and your interesting contents.
    I'm a bit confused about this IR-200 and GT-1000. In some way, these two devices seem to me, to be partially overlapping.
    Do you plan to make a comparison?

    • @larsheuker
      @larsheuker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gt-1000 is more of a full pedalboard and digital amp modeller, IR-200 is supposed to be just a amp and cab modeller for you to put other pedals next to. And its more compact, less bells and whistles

  • @GraeMcCullough
    @GraeMcCullough 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey! Enjoyed the video! You can actually have a completely different IR on each side of iridium as well.

  • @AnthonyShaw-ty9pi
    @AnthonyShaw-ty9pi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video!!👍👍
    Just curious🤔
    Are you playing through an amp, or your computer setup?
    Sounds awesome!!
    Thx

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All recorded through an interface into the computer

  • @niaralosusa
    @niaralosusa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ...perhaps I missed it but: can the IR-200 run two amps in stereo or only two cabs in stereo with the same amp?
    I'd really like to run parallel AC-30 and Fender at the same time. Can the IR-200 do this like the Walrus Audio ACS1, for example?
    Thanks!

  • @ArenaPAsys
    @ArenaPAsys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the best sounding, stereo FRFR speaker for home use that works with this setup? Price not being a factor, mostly sound and size please.

  • @AnxoHunter
    @AnxoHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks Paul. Good sounding units, but i think theese devices doesn´t achive as great gain quality as a real amp.

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know what some commenters are hearing here. The IR200 clearly sounds richer and higher in fidelity to me - more like a real amp in a room. The Iridium may appeal to some because the sounds sound more EQd to my ears - maybe they're better ready to sit in a band mix.
    Each of these units has to decide on how it's going to compromise. If we want a fully-featured unit, we'd get a big floor unit. We all want some level of simplicity from a stompbox-sized unit. The Strymon has a lot of features and a small set of very useable amps - super easy to configure. But without significant built-in reverb, and still requiring a drive pedal to get a saturated lead sound, I'd rather take a little more fiddling about with the IR200 and have a pedal that fits in my guitar case but can actually convincingly replace an entire amp rig.

    • @anupjsebastian
      @anupjsebastian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean you could just get a GT 1000 core or Helix stomp which are just slightly bigger than these and do a lot more.

    • @kevdob5810
      @kevdob5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the Iridium Marshall setting, the Middle knob, when turned up, changes the amp type, so farther right is more like a high gain JCM800. Couple that with maxing the gain knob makes it super saturated, in a good way

  • @Grant_Ferstat
    @Grant_Ferstat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I seem to be the outlier here. I far prefer the Strymon which sounds more like an up-front amp to me. The IR200 sounds more effected and processed. I'd prefer to start with a less processed sound and work from there. I'm a VOX guy and in particular I think the Iridium is way closer on that mode.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Iridium is great, and yes the box sound on it is really good.

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're not an outlier.
      The majority of people prefer iridium

    • @zRavenlord
      @zRavenlord 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@melodica5407 Meh. It sounds good for what it does but its pretty limited without other pedals The IR 200 sounded so much better in this video.

  • @fedboy21
    @fedboy21 ปีที่แล้ว

    any video about how to use and setup in stereo direct rig. what is the setting. its my first day with the boss ir 200 and kind a confuse a bit.

  • @AlexBradyMusic
    @AlexBradyMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's cool that the boss has more options, but to my ears, the iridium sounds a little better.

  • @ElcanaldeReyesManuel
    @ElcanaldeReyesManuel ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy bueno el vídeo

  • @fraenkiboii
    @fraenkiboii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the IR200 have any feature that the GT1000CORE doesn't?

  • @gibson2623
    @gibson2623 ปีที่แล้ว

    The IR 200 any day...Nice demo. Thanks ;)

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro keeps playing these crazy chord shapes I've never used in my life

  • @JaimeIniesta
    @JaimeIniesta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had decided to buy the Walrus ACS-1 instead of the Iridium, but the IR-200 looks better because of the effects loop and noise gate. It looks a bit more complicated to tweak but it may be worth it. Has anyone compared the IR-200 to the ACS-1?

    • @patricktracy1966
      @patricktracy1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Detailed comparison of the Boss, Strymon and ACs1.
      th-cam.com/video/nOpINgrYOoM/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgwFy3qeV4a8lY8jI5R4AaABAg.9WzK2mjbd2y9WzQxG-WOhB&ab_channel=LeoGibson

  • @harmonicseries6582
    @harmonicseries6582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, the boss sounds way more lively and tube like. Surprised!

  • @evilfab5195
    @evilfab5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for that comparison. I can understand that Boss IR 200 has more features than the IRIDIUM, but what about dynamic, organic feel ? I got IRIDIUM and I really enjoy it. I wonder if it’s a good idea to switch to the Boss IR 200 ? Will it improve my sound quality ?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Evil Fab. The Iridium is great, If you have the Iridium and you are happy, stick with the Iridium. In my opinion the boss feel wise is just as good if not slightly better but it’s a small thing. The reason I would consider swapping over is if I wanted the extra functionality like reverb, higher gain tones. Noise gate, extra Eq, and the screen.

    • @evilfab5195
      @evilfab5195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheStudioRats Thanks for your reply. Greetings from France !

  • @lawrencevaughan5373
    @lawrencevaughan5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the boss have stereo in though? That’s kinda a deal breaker if not, certainly for my chain.

  • @1970sman
    @1970sman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iridium for me, it's a great pedal platform. You use it much ( but not totally) like an amp. Punch cab A is the business. The boss is an all in one processor.

  • @kcapkcans
    @kcapkcans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weird question: can you custom name the models you put in the memory slots on the Boss?

    • @KoaCharvel
      @KoaCharvel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

    • @kcapkcans
      @kcapkcans 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KoaCharvel appreciate the response. Forgot I asked this honestly. As the proud owner of the IR200 now, I happily name a lot of custom settings with cusswords now!

    • @CoreyWatson-tu5tn
      @CoreyWatson-tu5tn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kcapkcansany update? Do you still enjoy it, I’m looking to purchase one but its almost like 50% prefer the iridium where there other 50 prefer the IR200

    • @kcapkcans
      @kcapkcans 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CoreyWatson-tu5tn I don't use it to its full potential. Basically I want it to sound like my JC which is just a clean platform for pedals. Saying that, I find myself going into the menu and designing crunchier amps because for distortions it sounds so much better than my pedals and is easier than swapping stuff around. I hate the default reverb that's on everything, not because it's poor quality but because I want to control the reverb not have it as a standard setting. I hate how it turns off after 24 hours or whatever because it sits on my desk and I have to unplug and replug it to get it to come back on. The sounds are fantastic though and I love being able to dial in guitar specific and bass specific settings.

  • @marioannicchino4839
    @marioannicchino4839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the IR200 be connected directly to studio monitors in stereo?

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes if they are powered monitors

  • @duaneanderson6393
    @duaneanderson6393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what I hearing seems true and favors an editorially weighted presentation

  • @garysmith2983
    @garysmith2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use the Iridium for recording, having had mixed results with plugins, load boxes and mics. It’s very easy to set up and get going. I still think, other than a quality mic in a good room, they all lack sparkle, like the sound is muffled, but it’s a trade off for silent easy to do recording.

    • @jips123
      @jips123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try other ir’s into the iridium. It makes a great difference for me.

  • @gowimusic
    @gowimusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When is the Boss IR200 coming to Market? I was told January 2022, which is far away. Does Boss think people are prepared to wait that long for a product… when there are so other alternatives available now?

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am waiting for it, but then again, it's exactly what I've been looking for: guitar, bass and it takes pedal really really well! But the wait is long. It's just as well, gotta save up some money for it.

    • @gowimusic
      @gowimusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nedim_guitar The Victory pre amp value pedals would work for me. I understand these are different product lines, but the investment would be in real tubes. I like Boss, but again, there are other products out there that can do this. And in 5 years, am I selling the IR200 for the IR300 because the IR200 is another digital processor that can sound dated after a few years?

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gowimusic You've got a good point there. Maybe it's best to invest in the BluGuitar Amp X that should be out in 2022. But for me it's also a matter of how much money I can motivate spending, as I'm not really a professional, gigging musician. But I might be next year, get together a band and jam... You never know! 😁

    • @gowimusic
      @gowimusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nedim_guitar I don’t play professionally anymore, however I still like to have some nice equipment… Indon’t need a lot or the best, but a little is good.

    • @nedim_guitar
      @nedim_guitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gowimusic I agree again. A good rig shouldn't have to be the best and latest products. Personally, I'm looking for a new amp too, about 20W combo (maybe a Vox, or a Blues Jr), or a Marshall Silver Jubilee stack, even though it might be too loud for me.

  • @ryansumawan1865
    @ryansumawan1865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I like your pink tele

  • @Germinalx
    @Germinalx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been thru every video. I suggest re branding. The Studio Rat. For clarity. Just ball busting. It’s an obvious term of endearment between men.

  • @Johnny-oy9fh
    @Johnny-oy9fh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the effects loop on the ir200 turn on?

  • @bsbrooks455
    @bsbrooks455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's sad that companies like Boss and Neural DSP get us all hot for their new gear and then make us mere mortals without TH-cam channels wait for months before we can get our hands on it.

  • @Roddo731
    @Roddo731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison video… But being a iridium user and having borrowed a friends IR200…For those of us that are not nerds who do not like to spend our life programming and 3 Amps are a plenty…The Iridium is more than enough. I use a Wampler faux reverb A small midi pedal And I’m good to go… I can focus on playing guitar not programming

  • @AlecBourneMidiMadScientist
    @AlecBourneMidiMadScientist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a good side by side comparison of the physicality of each pedal design.
    I’ve posted this in the Strymon Iridium Owners Group and it’s generating quite a bit of response, some obviously on the “authenticity” of the models as is to be expected, and this is interesting stuff. Yes the ir200 has a huge thing the iridium lacks and that’s a display and some sort of management system.
    I reckon a good further comparison here would be the non physical side, let’s see the editors and software?

    • @jips123
      @jips123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the used ir’s.

  • @SteveRockstein2
    @SteveRockstein2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No doubt digital is the future. It’s almost the present. But not quite, yet. These two boxes are amazing. But still, for my old-fart ears, they’re not ready for prime time, just another step on the way. My DI set up starts with a Frenzel FM tube preamp into an ancient SansAmp GT2 and a Mesa passive DI and into the board. Pure analog bliss.

  • @colinhodson9443
    @colinhodson9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did Boss give you the IR200 for free or have you been paid at any stage to promote / demo it ?

  • @lordstryrofoam1213
    @lordstryrofoam1213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First hour of messing with the Iridium I knew I was going to send it back. Not enough sustain even at the highest drive, among other things. Thanks loads for the comparison! I just bought the IR-200 and the Iridium is getting returned.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice one.

    • @oneandonlyarajivp
      @oneandonlyarajivp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello there. How is the ir-200 working out for you? Are you still using it?

  • @martin_gemme
    @martin_gemme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Iridium got an analog JFET front end which gives a more amp like reaction , IR 200 got a very digital feel

    • @jst601
      @jst601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reviewer said the IR felt better more amp like.

    • @markorfila3832
      @markorfila3832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      still sounds crap though ?

  • @GTgor
    @GTgor 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is your PA system?

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All I can say is that the IR-200 seems like a fantastic all in one package but I'm gonna research a few other more simplified systems to see if simpler might be better

  • @hugomartinho2555
    @hugomartinho2555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The biggest problem about the iridium and the walrus ac1 is the lacking of a fx loop.
    Using verbs and echos in front of overdriven tones is a no-go for me.
    The boss people understood that and made a good product.
    I would love to see the AC1 have an fx loop so I could use the 2 amp setting with a clean tone on one side and a breakup tone on the other. That would be amazing.
    Cheers.
    HM

    • @rickhawkins218
      @rickhawkins218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mono (guitar) input, effects loop out is mono, trs (stereo) back in. And output stereo. Well thought out. Effects loop needs to be turned on to work for each preset. Don't miss the 3 pos gain switch for all amps, a cool feature also. I use mine every day.

  • @markuslinnanen555
    @markuslinnanen555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the sweet Tele btw??

  • @frankie5072
    @frankie5072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At first listen, I’d give this to the Boss.

  • @grlivesay
    @grlivesay ปีที่แล้ว

    I use several Strymon pedals on my board. Would take Strymon over Boss pedals any day. What’s better than one Iridium? Two Iridiums in stereo!

    • @cliffirddelbridge2810
      @cliffirddelbridge2810 ปีที่แล้ว

      You sound like a fan boy. Saying "any day" proves it. And nothing will change your mind, sad.

  • @bwitt4673
    @bwitt4673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I owned the Iridium for over 6 months and Never felt like I could find the Sounds I was Looking for. I not sure about the IR-200. On this Video it seems to be Much Closer to what I’m looking for. Don’t get me wrong, I love Strymon products. I have the Timeline and the Big Sky on my Board and planning to keep them there as I feel they are the Best. The Iridium is gone. I’m still on a Search for the IR and Amp modeler, maybe the IR-200 will be the Answer, maybe not but the Iridium was not for me

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Billy, I’m doing a live session at 5pm GMT today all about the IR-200 if you want to join and ask questions:

    • @oneandonlyarajivp
      @oneandonlyarajivp ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there. Where are you on your search? Have you managed to find another solution? I'm asking this because I'm on the same quest and I've ordered an iridium and still waiting. Thanks

  • @lifelongfan07
    @lifelongfan07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I like the Strymon, it sounds more natural and less processed.

    • @ryanboles7595
      @ryanboles7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find this with the big sky and the rv500 aswell. Both incredible pedals and have their pros and cons, but the Strymon seems to have that slightly more natural sound.

  • @lennyslickstunes
    @lennyslickstunes ปีที่แล้ว

    Can these be sent straight to a mixer ? Thx

  • @lightningstrikes7314
    @lightningstrikes7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come you guys never review software amps and cabs? There's some great affordable options. The Audio Assault Revv is great and my favourite is the ML Sound JCM 800. I think they're better than these boxes.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We do, there’s plenty on the channel

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IR-200 all the way. For whatever reason your Tele sounds MORE like a tele through the Boss

  • @cmath8577
    @cmath8577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like you might be using a compressor pedal before these amp / ir sim pedals

  • @OrkhanJulfa
    @OrkhanJulfa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMHO Boss better simulates 4x12 cab. More huge, deep wall of sound. Though its drive stages are digital. Strymon has analog drive but its cabs sound always like one single speaker. It is noticeble especially with high gain.
    I think best option good analog drive pedal/preamp into Boss.

  • @ToleroCH
    @ToleroCH ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Iridium has a soul....IR 200 sounds synthetic

  • @timhopkins3810
    @timhopkins3810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good comparison of the 2 😊 I like the cleans on the ir200 but not fully sold on the distorted sounds. There’s a whole host of features though that are great but one key point is missing for me which would be a dealbreaker sadly, you can’t use ir’s without the preamp. The iridium can be used just as an ir loader and I’d be using this in conjunction with an hx stomp so lots of amp models already on there that sound better than both. If I didn’t have the stomp then maybe would choose the boss but also like the Strymon…

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can turn off the preamp on the IR-200.

    • @timhopkins3810
      @timhopkins3810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheStudioRats ah can you, I heard you couldn’t… that does change things slightly then 😊

    • @rickhawkins218
      @rickhawkins218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@timhopkins3810 press/hold the amp, cab or reverb to turn off and on each independantly. Push both buttons for full bypass.

  • @gibs8412
    @gibs8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    which do you like using better amp 1 or IR-200 ?

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to imply the ac30 on ir200 doesn't sound like ac30 without saying it by asking YOU the audience, allegedly 😉
    IMHO
    Diamond amp is the weakest ac30 emulation on the market.
    Clarity?
    If it ain't sounding and feel like it there's no point for that.
    Ir200 best amp were the tweed and x high gain. I still kinda wish they put x mod in it tho.
    The natural is the best pedal platform since it's kinda a warmer jc120 with smooth gain.
    Honestly i never been impressed by bogner supersonic sound so I got no say in that.
    Btw will you do a bass video of this unit next?

  • @crustyapplejack2609
    @crustyapplejack2609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just ordered/reserverd mine from Sweetwater...was told early December delivery hopefully. We shall see haha.

  • @bryanteoh8865
    @bryanteoh8865 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the iridium input and output stereo?

  • @kenminerva
    @kenminerva 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's Boss ftw!! 🤘🏿🤘🏿

  • @thesoundgrovestudio
    @thesoundgrovestudio ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The strymon hands down better uncompressed sound

  • @stephenkennedy7347
    @stephenkennedy7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Also I found the Iridium reacts very like a valve amp and to my ear the Boss IR200 sounds a bit processed and artificial - and that's coming from someone that has mostly boss pedals.

  • @geespar1
    @geespar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Iridium sounds like an amp, Boss sounds like a pedal

    • @PNGtwentyfour
      @PNGtwentyfour 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless you've compared IRL, they both sound like TH-cam.

  • @mmatthewias280
    @mmatthewias280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The iridium was designed to be simple, like turning knobs on an amp simple. I have boss pedals I really like but you need loads of time and a degree in the user manual to operate them with decency. That’s a huge drawback for boss stuff to me. I just wanna play, not spend hours learning a piece of “gear”. I wanna play/learn guitar, not gear.

    • @SS-gx7tg
      @SS-gx7tg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly. There's a consequence to too many options, "the paradox of choice". I'm not a fan of 20 knobs and 500 cabs, etc, etc. It's overkill. It's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a true cab simulator that is simple and doesn't require classes to learn. I know some people insist on the idea that the more options, the better, but I think these two devices appeal to two very different types of mindsets. The Iridium is a nice handsome little black box that does 9 sounds and all 9 of those are very, very good to my ears. The room function and drive functions are both excellent as well. I really don't need (or want) anything beyond that, but for those who feel there is better value in devices that have crammed in as many options as possible, even though you'll likely never touch 99% of those options, go for the BOSS I guess!

    • @danielblair5133
      @danielblair5133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a genuine tone-tweaker, I can honestly say that having all of the options is really appealing. I play in a cover band that covers a pretty wide range of styles, so having this many options will allow me to dial tones as close to the original as I can. It will be placed in a midi rig, so each different amp choice will be available for each different song. Definately a lot of work done ahead of time. But worth it for this kind of playing.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah.

    • @kootenayco_
      @kootenayco_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was the same way, thought the same exact thing here... However, you can set this pedal to only have a limited amount of IR's showing on your pedal. You don't need to necessarily have to use all the settings, after a certain #, they just become preset ideas, really... Learning gear isn't so bad either, chin up man... We all wanna practice our instruments too😆 I wanted to go with the Iridium originally, just because I wanted the basic knobs functionality as well.. Both pedals have their pros and cons 100% - I was one of many, who seeked TH-cam video's to help make my choice between the two, but at the end of the day you just need to get up, get it & hear for yourself.

    • @jonthehermit8082
      @jonthehermit8082 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s not very complicated, you can plug in and use it without the manual.

  • @morrischau
    @morrischau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why i feel like the ir200 sounds better than the gtk

  • @mofateam1
    @mofateam1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wanted to like the BOSS, but overall to my ears the Iridium sounds better and "fuller/warmer"...

  • @chriswalton3383
    @chriswalton3383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the only thing the boss ir has is the effects loop.

  • @ricknelsteel
    @ricknelsteel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strymon, despite what he says.

  • @MiguelBaptista1981
    @MiguelBaptista1981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For just clean tone, I'd go for Strymon.
    Bells and whistles, just add pedals.

  • @neilslade
    @neilslade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ir200 has MONO INPUT ONLY - Iridium has Mono OR Stereo input- that's a deal breaker on the Boss for me. I use a lot of stereo effects- ir200 would force me to put them all AFTER the ir200- chorus flange or other stereo after the amp /cab?? Nope- bad idea.

    • @TheStudioRats
      @TheStudioRats  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s why it has an effects loop.

    • @savanaviolenta
      @savanaviolenta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and it's limited to guitars and basses and maybe mono synths, but, you can't use stereo synths and drum machines trough it cause its mono in unlike the Irridium.