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  • @talktomeinkorean
    @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

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    • @elifkanwal
      @elifkanwal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @LoveAsAlways3
    @LoveAsAlways3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    This man spoke only straight up honest truth. I can see how people can get offended, but as someone who has been living in Korea for 2 years and has seen a lot of it, he isn’t sugar coating this for anyone. I appreciated hearing his perspective, you can tell he’s been through it, living in Korea is no joke 😅

  • @guiduartist
    @guiduartist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    He said my first advice to friends that wants to learn a language, if you don't have a great desire don't waste your time, there's a point where things get hard and you 'll need big reasons or passion to go on, it's hard to deal with but it's a good advice

  • @icecreamspls
    @icecreamspls 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    He spoke a lot of truths about Korea, and it's good to see this perspective too. But I think this interview will trigger people because a lot of the responses are framed negatively (even to positive questions like 'who will do well in Korea' - it became 'who will not do well in Korea'). Like other commenters I also don't think learning can ever be a waste of time, but he also did mention that if it's just your hobby, there is nothing to say about that (i.e. it's OK). So I wouldn't critique him on that. But personally I think people are too quick to categorise their time as wasted or not. They're too goal or success focused. If you just enjoy it, and feel encouraged/excited/happy/etc, even if you never get anywhere, that's fine too.

  • @sittingduck1735
    @sittingduck1735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This interview is by far the most informative I have seen.

  • @AdAstraAtx
    @AdAstraAtx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Hobby" does not mean shallow or lazy. I study diligently for the pure joy of learning, and one thing I have learned, is that the embodiment of beauty, nature, and community in Korean culture transcends his pragmatic way of living. I acknowledge his viewpoint, but I will return to my self-assigned lesson on the meaning of "Arirang" today. Love to fellow TTMIK members❤

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree! Love your perspective and thanks for sharing it!🥰

  • @gojoyama
    @gojoyama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    aah, nice to see a turkish person in this channel!!

  • @S-t-y-l-i-s-h_
    @S-t-y-l-i-s-h_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I think people should watch the whole video before write a quick reacting comment, this man has some accurate, pertinents and realistics ( rather than discourage ) opinions.

  • @alpagosinasi
    @alpagosinasi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Hello~ thanks for good commets~~ And check this point :D 7:20

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      다양한 이야기와 경험 공유해 주셔서 감사합니다😊

  • @biglance
    @biglance 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    He's right about learning HANJA, Chinese characters. Even many Koreans do not deeply know their own language b/c they don't know HANJA. If you study medicine or law for example you MUST read those books with HANJA b/c there are too man homophones (same sounds) in Korean and you will not know exactly what is meant. That is why educated in old Korean studied Chinese too as part of the entrance exams for universities or gov't jobs for example.

  • @marybarrera3034
    @marybarrera3034 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Personally, I've learned english 13 years ago, I lived in UK for almost 6 years, and it's have been 7 years since I returned back to Spain. I haven't use the language everyday, even can be months without using it and I dont consider that a waste of time. I can understand his perspective of the language learning but I can't share it. Learning is never a waste of time, tou never know what can happen in the future. You might not use it at first but then you end up living in Corea. Who knows? I think as long as you have passion for learning korean, everything will be fine. Its your time and you decide how to waste it. Personally I prefer learning korean, cultivating my mind with the culture than play games, or watch lots of tv programs for sure.
    Anyway it was a interesting video. Its always good to listen to others opinions.

  • @bkjung391
    @bkjung391 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    알파고 특유의 시니컬한 톤과 매너, 위트가 담긴 직설성이 좋다.

  • @NewBeginner27
    @NewBeginner27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I really enjoyed the other interviews of this series, but this one .... I have to remind myself that everyone has different reasons for learning the language or working/living in Korea and it is not always passion or love for the country/culture/music etc. and of course it is also about expections one might have had compared to reality . I am sure that Korea is not a perfect country as no country is perfect and that happiness starts with me and does not solely depend on where I live ... now I have lost my train of thoughts.😅
    What I want to say is that if you want to learn Korean, although you don't know if you are ever actually going to use it, don't feel discouraged by what he said that this would be a waste of time. As long as you enjoy it, just keep going. You never know where it might lead to. That's the beauty of life😊
    I have started to learn English in 3rd grade. I never thought I would be able to actually use it and going to an English speaking country seemed always somehow out of reach (never thought I would be able to afford it). These days I am working together with people from different countries communicating in English, reading books only in English and also watching movies, shows only in English. It has become my second native language (after German). Now I am learning Korean through English. I would have never thought I would be where I am now, doing what I am doing now. I am curious what learning Korean will lead me to.
    And if nothing comes out of it, at least you have spend your time doing something that made you happy.

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well said!

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you for sharing your honest opinion! We completely understand where you're coming from. This video represents just one perspective among many from Korean learners, and the intention wasn't to discourage anyone. Keep studying hard and following your beliefs!😄

  • @neminaree
    @neminaree 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    this man is very smart and saw some life. rather than getting defensive and offended, take into account a ton of helpful pieces of advice and points to think about that he shared in this video. for me, it was packed with words on point, especially for people who imagine coming to Korea and having the whole world spin around them (and I know many people who came and returned heartbroken). people work hard : ) and it's a kind, realistic reminder about things.
    if you study Korean for yourself and to appreciate the culture, this video wasn't for you. maybe a different title for this video would help to avoid confusion and hurt.

  • @jungwonstoe188
    @jungwonstoe188 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hes speaks like a native korean.. wow

  • @xuser9980
    @xuser9980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I completely understand and agree with his point about not wasting your time on things, especially grammar points, that you are not going to use often; that is, if you're trying to effectively communicate as quickly as possible. That being said, you won't really know how to differentiate between what is useful and what is not useful until you reach a more advanced level.

  • @kdtatayoo
    @kdtatayoo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    팁 공유해 주셔서 감사합니다!! 진짜 이런 종류의 인터뷰를 맘에 들어요!! 그 분은 포기하 않는 모습을 좋아해요!!! 그리고 한자어에 관해 의견에 동의합니다!! 진짜 도움이 돼요!!
    티티믹 팀 정말 고생 많으셨습니다!!

  • @samanthablack3988
    @samanthablack3988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wouah he sounds like a native.. Very good!!

  • @sheroncroes7957
    @sheroncroes7957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Because languages is a living thing, it does not die, even when you don't use it! And you never forgets it, when the time is right you will pick it up in no time! From a polyglot perspective.

  • @bubblemilk5564
    @bubblemilk5564 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    그는 한국에서 유명합니다. 매우 재미있게 감상했습니다. 그는 보통사람이 아닙니다. 굉장합니다.

  • @ProteaAurea
    @ProteaAurea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To anyone who is feeling discouraged: You don't need to know a Korean person or have plans to travel or move to Korea to seriously study Korean and have huge benefits from being fluent. I've never spoken English to a native speaker and yet knowing English well has literally saved my life because, when I got sick, I was able to read medical research that my doctors never even heard about and find proper diagnosis and treatment. Not everyone is going to have as drastic benefit as having their life saved, but learning Korean will open a whole new world of different mindsets, different way of thinking, another culture, literature, entertainment, different information than you can get in your own country and so on. Not to mention the basic benefits for the brain of studying and making connections.

  • @aniee4780
    @aniee4780 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    okay i do agree with him at some point I thought i might be wasting my time and stopped learning but i want to start again as i feel like i should atleast have a conversational level i don't want to leave in between

  • @yogankuma
    @yogankuma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great post, thanks for a sharing a different perspective

  • @alexanderdrechsel6858
    @alexanderdrechsel6858 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    saw the intro and disliked.. learning a language is never a waste of time, whether you use it or not. you still can learn a lot about the people, how they think and why they do things the way they do.

    • @LunaticOstrich
      @LunaticOstrich 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Right? This guy is so weird. Calling out people who don't have kids because it's too expensive. That's sounds like a smart decision to me. This guy seems very negative and weird to me.

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Right. You've also got a point!😀

    • @MsFunambule
      @MsFunambule 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Also using a language can mean a lot of things besides moving to the country and getting a job there. Reading, understanding songs, watching movies, writing letters, just training your brain - all of this is using. As far as I am concerned, one of the biggest joys in life is understanding something. Those moments when something clicks and starts making sense give me enough dopamine to get back to learning again and again.

    • @samanthablack3988
      @samanthablack3988 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      He said if you won't use it... And that's right. If you learned it and you never use it, it's a waste of time. You even forget you native language a bit if you never use it. So don't have to say it for a nth one.
      But if you'll watch drama, listen to songs, read, text with people, you're basically using it so it doesn't apply to what he said

    • @puvididdle
      @puvididdle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@samanthablack3988 wisdom from comedians are not easily understood by those not seeking. great that you got the point. 👍👍

  • @fsmithh
    @fsmithh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I looove the tip about learning hanja too amplify your korean language skills - I can now dive deeper into the beautiful roots of Korea and East-Asia 😍

  • @jj20198
    @jj20198 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh it's Alpago ❤ Loved watching his content back then

  • @yera1766
    @yera1766 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I completely understand why this video wasn't well received by many but personally, he makes some very good points. He's providing insight on the other side of the coin that is relevant to this topic. As a person whose hobby is learning languages (I try to learn almost 10 languages at once), my goal is not communicating with native speakers nor is it to impress anyone. It is instead what I like to do. What people misunderstand here is the fact that he's talking about people like him mostly. If you aren't going to speak the language or put it to good use, don't waste your time doing that [instead spend that time for building other important skills]. The point about Hanja is also interesting. The whole writing system originated from Chinese characters and it still holds value. Knowing etymology helps in identifying root words and is generally helpful. The reading also has similarity (how "ren" in Chinese is "in" in Korean and much more). His comments also have to do with deeper understanding of the language and Korean culture + society. And if you look at his channel, he obviously has a lot of knowledge on not just Korea but many other countries as well. Even I don't agree with everything he said but people are too quick to dismiss anything that doesn't feel palatable to them rather than listening to something and taking away the good points. This is one of the best kind of videos that you've put out and I appreciate the existence of this channel. Thank you, TTMIK!

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment!👍 That's such an insightful review.

  • @JoelenScholarship
    @JoelenScholarship 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I very agree..
    "It's better if you dont know everything " 🙂
    Right know, i talking about "dont learn korean if you dont use it" and sometimes that make you need to consider again even though many people can't accepted.
    (Even what he said made me to force myself to using right now🙂)
    I remember someone said this: everywhere always have chances, (just only) when you have a "skill". if you dont have skill, you can't take that chances.
    And I think again Language can't replace by AI, just simple "because humans still there" when AI will take all jobs.. (i'm not talking about AI translation yeah) even though (right now) AI can do something like that, I don't use it when I was write by use language that not my Mother tongue).

  • @talklikeKorean1
    @talklikeKorean1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    알파고씨, 대단하세요! 한국어를 잘하게 된 비결이 20년동안 한국에 있어서라고 말씀하셨는데요. 저도 외국에 살고있지만 20년의 세월이 그 나라의 언어를 자동적으로 잘하게 하는 것 같지는 않습니다. 걸어다니면서도 공부하고 버스에서도 공부하시고 그렇게 하셔서 어휘력이 엄청 늘으셨군요. 한자도 공부하셔서인지 한국어가 유창하게 들립니다. 화이팅입니다. 활약기대할게요.

  • @PinayAjumma
    @PinayAjumma 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank you for this video. I love his advice .

  • @cherylschaeffer7832
    @cherylschaeffer7832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm very disappointed with his comments about how *important* it is to learn Hanja and about learning Korean is a waste of time if you don't have someone to talk to. That will turn so many people off to learning the language. I do think learning Hanja is important, but I don't think it's necessary to study 600 Hanja characters. It is easy enough to learn Hanja as you go along learning Korean. And learning a language is never a waste of time. There are many of us learning for reasons such as maintaining brain health, learning about a new language for the novelty or fun of it, people who only want to read Korean books or watch kdramas without subs. While I value the use of Korean to communicate to native speakers, that's not everyone's goal.

    • @ingvarmayer8947
      @ingvarmayer8947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He literally said that learning it as a hobby is okay, but he doesn't think that being seriously invested unless you use it makes sense

    • @cherylschaeffer7832
      @cherylschaeffer7832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@ingvarmayer8947Re-watch it from about 12:45 on. At about 12:58 he basically says that learning Korean as a hobby is a waste of time. He keeps repeating "a waste of time" referring to learning unless you are learning for a purpose and learning as he says "seriously." There are over 18,000 members in the TTMIK discord. Many are learning casually, for fun, to be able to understand kdramas, because they love BTS or some other kpop group, etc. To say that learning Korean as a hobby without a serious intent is insulting to a large part of the TTMIK membership. I applaud him for what he has done, but am disappointed that he didn't encourage people to learn. Learning Korean is never a "waste of time" regardless of how or why you are learning.

    • @blackbelt2000
      @blackbelt2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      well said!

    • @alice3a
      @alice3a 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@cherylschaeffer7832 But learning in order to understand kdrama or maintain brain health is for a purpose, so I don't really see the problem? If you are learning for a reason, no matter what the reason is, that's fine. Plus, that's just his opinion, he's entitled to his opinion, no?

  • @gabynas
    @gabynas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Apesar de não concordar com algumas coisas que foram ditas, eu respeito e acho que ele tem uma personalidade forte, é sincero e corajoso por expor tão diretamente essa opinião.

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's truly mature of you to show respect towards someone, especially when you disagree with someone, and to take opinions as they are! Thank you for the comment!♥

  • @BlessedForever888
    @BlessedForever888 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great - thank you!

  • @musicaylin6982
    @musicaylin6982 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    bizim insanımız her yerde ölü gibi cansız moralsiz insanlara enerji vermeden yoksun durumdalar .

  • @Min-Hae37_77
    @Min-Hae37_77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    저는 이 시리즈 정말 좋아요 . 남아프리카 온 사랑.❤

  • @strawberryyogurt7
    @strawberryyogurt7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    14 dakika boyunca negatif basmış adam içim sıkıldı

  • @gryphon1999
    @gryphon1999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Rather a discouraging intro "don't waste your time".... Personally I find it offensive. I like many others simply like to learn new things...In learning a foreign language I have discovered it is the best way to learn about each country's culture if you do not have the resources to actually travel to them. This is just my opinion but I think for the majority of people "don't waste your time" is a slap in the face....

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We can see your passion for learning languages and cultures. Our intention was to share diverse perspectives from Korean learners, though we understand some opinions may have seemed discouraging. We would appreciate it if you could consider this as just one perspective among many from Korean learners. Thank you for watching this video and sharing your honest opinion!😊

  • @AbdulAli-ku9he
    @AbdulAli-ku9he 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:57 😂😂😂

    • @AbdulAli-ku9he
      @AbdulAli-ku9he 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mükemmel kardeşim!

  • @paulwalther5237
    @paulwalther5237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have to say I think studying hanja is overrated. If it were that amazing then people studying Japanese would rock the vocabulary. They have kanji forced down their throat every time they read Japanese. I'm sure it's a little helpful but this idea that it explodes I'm not so sure. I'd look for other things he does or did to get really good. Consistently studying vocabulary (using flash cards or whatever) is obviously great. Over several years that's going to add up to a lot. (Again, over several years - people are looking for fast solutions. But you need to be thinking long term when it comes to foreign languages especially Asian languages if you're a westerner). And using the language. That's huge. So many people only use the language if they have to and try to avoid it as much as possible. But if you do the opposite then that is going to eventually over the course of years give results. People hear this nonsense about how you need to learn foreign languages like children do. Kids can sure learn languages fast. Sure you can borrow some of the things kids do but don't expect to learn as fast.

    • @talktomeinkorean
      @talktomeinkorean  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts!😊

    • @bettlovesshrek2026
      @bettlovesshrek2026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you dont know much about learning languages do you 😂

  • @isuk
    @isuk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a koreaboo

  • @BrettBunsen
    @BrettBunsen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Suggestion: Don’t use something so discouraging as "don’t waste your time" as the thumbnail.

  • @jagx234
    @jagx234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acknowledge the genocide of the Armenians, Turk.

    • @bettlovesshrek2026
      @bettlovesshrek2026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      do you know what a genocide is? would there be a neighbour armenian country if there was genocide? those people went to create their own country in state of war and there is nothing more than that. how can you say that this is genocide? if you want to learn smth about genocide, you can see it in Palestine. That’s what a genocide is. It is not leaving Ottoman and building a new country. Stop being so uneducated.

    • @jagx234
      @jagx234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bettlovesshrek2026 ... nothing you said was relevant to the point. The literal genesis of the term came from the League of Nations in the 1920's to describe the plight of the Armenians from 1914-1920. The 3 Pachas took Armenians out into the Black Sea and tossed them overboard. This is in the Turks own records, it's not a secret.
      I'm obviously more educated than yourself on the topic. Moron

    • @berkaysefer
      @berkaysefer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @jagx234 uneducated

    • @merrynw4827
      @merrynw4827 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cry 😂