Kyshtym Disaster - Biggest Nuclear Disaster Before Chernobyl

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ความคิดเห็น • 553

  • @RazielSchnitzel
    @RazielSchnitzel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    - ...You call nuclear reactors "steamed hams"?
    - Yes! It's a regional dialect.
    - Uh-huh, uh what region?
    - uuh, Chelyabinsk oblast.
    - Really? Well I'm from Zlatoust and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed hams"
    - Oh no, not in Zlatoust, it's an Ozersk expression.
    - I see.
    Also, later:
    - Seymourov! My face is on fire!
    - No, comrade worker, it's just the northern lights.

    • @Real_Eggman
      @Real_Eggman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This deserves more likes.

    • @onlyGhostboy
      @onlyGhostboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joey Colton awful

    • @nemrody7828
      @nemrody7828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@worldoftancraft there are dialects in every language.
      A person from Moscow is going to speak Russian slightly different from a person from Grozny or Irkutsk.

    • @nemrody7828
      @nemrody7828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@worldoftancraft ah, here you are wrong. Dialects don't have to be unintelligible to the mother tongue. An example is Scottish English. It is a dialect of standardized British English, yet any native British person can understand a Scotsman.
      That's a colloquial dialect, a dialect found solely in casual speech. There are also official dialects, like American English, which has slightly different spelling for some words, and slightly different pronounciation.
      When a dialect becomes hard to understand to speakers of the mother tongue, it is no longer a dialect, but an unofficial separate language.

    • @secretbaguette
      @secretbaguette 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfunny

  • @Froblyx
    @Froblyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I learned about the disaster during the 1970s from a source you don't mention. There were a bunch of Russian scientific papers published in the 1960s, all of which discussed the ecological effects of suddenly removing all members of some species from an ecosystem. Somebody in the scientific community noticed these papers and, by collating the locations of the various species mentioned, deduced the general area in which the disaster took place.

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    "Closed Nature Reserve"!? Sounds like the "Pripyat Nature Park and Science Fiction movie set"

    • @robinwells8879
      @robinwells8879 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ironically wildlife, with its shorter lifespan, can continue to thrive when the lead predators are removed or remove themselves. 😂

  • @jangrosek4334
    @jangrosek4334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is interesting that the death of the Dyatlov group in 1959, may also have some connection with the Kyshtym accident.

    • @oleopathic
      @oleopathic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How ?

    • @nicholaskelly6375
      @nicholaskelly6375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I very much doubt that!

    • @jangrosek4334
      @jangrosek4334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oleopathic Several dead tourists worked at Mayak, but after the accident. Also, radiation was found on the bodies of the victims and this is one of the biggest mysteries of this case. There are several theories that try to explain them. According to one version, the tourists brought radioactive clothing from their work. According to another version, the group got into the territory that came under radiation contamination after the accident.

    • @oleopathic
      @oleopathic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jangrosek4334 there is new 2020 documentary of Dyatlov Pass. Official reason is avalanche.

    • @jangrosek4334
      @jangrosek4334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oleopathic The Russian prosecutor's office recently abandoned the avalanche version, announcing this as the personal opinion of the investigator, which he received by violating the investigative work.

  • @neandertaler4154
    @neandertaler4154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please turn off the tv in the backround

  • @mavisdavies9769
    @mavisdavies9769 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Skill based match making is killing this channel 🙃

  • @garethpreston8275
    @garethpreston8275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everything Russian looks like it could blow up

    • @kbtechandmedia
      @kbtechandmedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything formerly Soviet also looks like it's stuck in 1980 to some aspects.

  • @reality8763
    @reality8763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    In Soviet Russia, Aurora Borealis sees you

    • @sgtmayhem7567
      @sgtmayhem7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing like a little Smirnoff with a little Smirnoff.

    • @rexkwondo21
      @rexkwondo21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fcking hilarious

    • @mayowankenobi
      @mayowankenobi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, the Aurora Borealis is the Chuck Norris of Soviet Russia?

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yah, you have a glowing complexion, too…

  • @andraslibal
    @andraslibal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    We spent 70 years learning how to handle nuclear reactors ... it is very sad to see the current attitude towards a technology that matured so much. Imagine if humans gave up on fire permanently after the first few people suffered burns. This is what we are doing now with nuclear fire.

    • @alfredvonschlieffen6813
      @alfredvonschlieffen6813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      People are scared of what they don't understand. Sadly many don't bother to learn about it.

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@alfredvonschlieffen6813 especially with highly incorrect series like the ever praised Chernobyl. Presenting radiation damage as if it was contagious from one person to the other.

    • @---uf2zl
      @---uf2zl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The Fukushima disaster was only 9 years ago.
      I'm pro-nuclear but let's not kid ourselves about its safety, especially if a terrorist squad can infiltrate a NPP so easily.

    • @nix4184
      @nix4184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      fire doesn’t affect atoms and have the ability to damage DNA for generations, buddy, claiming nuclear energy to be anything like fire is invalid.

    • @MuffinManUSN
      @MuffinManUSN ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well....like communism though these systems work on paper but human greed, complacency and ignorance are far more dangerous when applied to this aspect.
      I agree with what you are saying fundamentally. However, a Cancer diagnosis should be far more diversified in its options for treatment and feeling forced to channel efforts down approved treatment methods won't me feel better about Nuclear Medicine.
      These are life long commitments going into the occupations or diagnosis of illness. So just leaves me torn in thinking that we have gained enough progress to be comfortable with related to this aspect of society. We are not "educated" in this nor are safeguards, cleanup or safe handling where it should be.
      We need to keep talking, advocating, writing, documenting....in order to continue to climb the mountain we are at the foot of at this moment.

  • @Dartaen
    @Dartaen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    10:48 I grew up in the 80s and see what you did there. (Aurora borealis, wink wink...)

  • @jeremytibbetts3576
    @jeremytibbetts3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Simpson's reference

    • @Tweakjones5
      @Tweakjones5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Steamed hams

    • @noobstudios4457
      @noobstudios4457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where??

    • @kingtunip6386
      @kingtunip6386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@noobstudios4457 the aroraborialus part

    • @yah5o
      @yah5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      came here to upvote

    • @sgtmayhem7567
      @sgtmayhem7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ŇøHă Ģ. ...but you steam a good ham.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    U.S. refusal to reveal the incident was almost certainly also rooted in the need to protect intelligence methods and sources...
    Eisenhower: "A nuclear plant in the middle of nowhere in the Soviet Union exploded!"
    Rest of the world: "...And how the hell exactly would you know THAT?!"
    Although it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the U.S. leaked the story to the Danes just to get it out there.

    • @bernardkealey6449
      @bernardkealey6449 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, source / capabilities & means protection was not an issue in this instance; atmospheric monitoring capabilities were well acknowledged. Cat was out of the bag when Truman described how they knew that Sov’s had first tested.

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    60's setup studio, as a result of moving on through the Cold War in time, excellent! I like! And, I never heard of 'Kyshtym Disaster ' before so thanks for covering this topic!

  • @kgbfiles5713
    @kgbfiles5713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    There is also another famous story associated with Kyshtym. A mysterious anthropomorphic creature was found near the town in 1996 and was named the Kyshtym dwarf or Alyoshenka. Ufologists believe that it was a humanoid. According to a more realistic version, this is a mutated human fetus. The cause of the mutation could be, among other things, the consequences of the disaster.

    • @caorusso4926
      @caorusso4926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @RavnDream You we have any pic of the humanoid? can you please send the link of the video?

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Also, 11 years after Kyshtym, lake Karachay dried out.
      And a violent windstorm swept up the now exposed and dried out radioactive waste which had accumulated at the lake's bottom
      and spread it across the region, irradiating 250,000 people.
      Though to this day, this second disaster still doesn't have so much as a name.

    • @ToreDL87
      @ToreDL87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alyoshenka
      Radiation causing deformities.
      Perfect food for British bedtime story channels with only video/photographic references being panning of crappy drawings.
      Donno why stupid stories like that is such a big thing in Britain, nobody else gives a crap.

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ToreDL87 1. That's a really rude way to voice your opinion.
      2. This channel isn't popular just in britain, as non-british people also find interest in subtle horror, the mysterious, and the seemingly supernatural.

    • @sgtmayhem7567
      @sgtmayhem7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RavnDream Thank you for posting that.

  • @안호성-p6z
    @안호성-p6z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'm sure people from Chelyabinsk makes the best Steamed Hams in the country.

    • @statesecretmusic
      @statesecretmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's more of a Yekaterinburg term

    • @archlich4489
      @archlich4489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "SEYMOUR!"

    • @andreynazarov8113
      @andreynazarov8113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      СЕЙМУР!

    • @frankkolton1780
      @frankkolton1780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are loads uncommonly gorgeous women in Chelyabinsk.

    • @RazielSchnitzel
      @RazielSchnitzel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@frankkolton1780 it's the fucking radiation. How do I know? Ive already dated two from that oblast, and while they are hot as hell, they also give you radiation poisoning when you break up 💔😝

  • @hughmungus1767
    @hughmungus1767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    As a Canadian, I am surprised that you didn't mention the Chalk River nuclear incident of 1952, which involved a then-obscure nuclear engineer named James Earl Carter, who went on to become the 39th President of the United States. Chalk River is in Canada, about 2 hours drive northwest of Ottawa on the Ottawa River.

    • @lilyrrichard236
      @lilyrrichard236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of Americans consider Jimmy Carter a dumb hick peanut farmer from Georgia and dont even know he was close to being a nuclear physicist when his father passed away and he left the Navy to run his family's peanut business. He is a very smart man.

    • @ChickenPermissionOG
      @ChickenPermissionOG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lilyrrichard236 Still a bad president.

    • @Raptorman0909
      @Raptorman0909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He was sent there, after the incident, as part of the team to clean up the mess. He had absolutely nothing to do with the event itself but was sent there, as part of a US Navy team, to help with the clean up.

    • @matgeezer2094
      @matgeezer2094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You kidding, Jimmy Carter had a background in nuclear engineering?? That's mad - and Three Miles Island happened when he was President

    • @RC-nq7mg
      @RC-nq7mg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Carter was part of the remediation team. But yes I agree, Chalk River doesn't get enough acknowledgment. Especially since it was the worlds first reactor meltdown.

  • @sacredsalmon5516
    @sacredsalmon5516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow! I've been there, and actually worked on one of the Ozyorsk factories some years ago. Not to mention, that my grandfather was evacuated from Ozyorsk after this disaster with his family to another facility in Dimitrovgrad ))
    From what I saw and heard during my visit to Ozyorsk, the administration of the site had always experienced troubles with organisation of the working process due to a constant hurry which is known as "shturmovshina" in russian. As for Kyshtym disaster, the threat from the radioactive waste tank was realised well before the actual bang, but all attempts to avert the disaster were made impossible by bad design of the storage.
    Other design flaws manifest themselves in the form of abandoned due to radioactive poisoning production buildings all around the facility.

    • @levismith7444
      @levismith7444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would imagine the groundwater the that region is highly contaminated right?

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    There are no nuclear disasters in Soviet Union. Do you need a vacation?

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Siberia is nice vacation this time of year, especially the Ob river valleys.....

  • @kazakhdoge1822
    @kazakhdoge1822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As someone who is very interested in history, I love your channel. Btw, will you cover French-Algerian war and other anti-colonial conflicts?

    • @kayzeaza
      @kayzeaza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they might of actually covered that war in a video already. And yes they will talk about de-colonization in future videos, I think there is already a couple about Kenya and Ethiopia.

  • @mcebisap8806
    @mcebisap8806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    You didn't answer the one question many of us have:. MAY I SEE IT?

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      er, no.

    • @garymingy8671
      @garymingy8671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's a hiways , next to it. Keep your windows closed ,signs, for 25 miles. You can get a dose !

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    10:47 most famous scene in The Simpsons history referenced beautifully.

  • @Sean_Coyne
    @Sean_Coyne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember reading that New Scientist article. Of course there have been many other near misses and radiation exposures from weapons production and civil power plants in the US, UK and France to name just a few. Oak Ridge had a potential storage event with enriched uranium in WWII, only prevented by a visit by a young Richard Feynman, who himself could barely read the site plans and felt out of his depth...but he picked out the problem almost by sheer chance.

    • @yootd3m
      @yootd3m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I keep seeing the name faynman he is a hero

  • @SLACKPLAN9
    @SLACKPLAN9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    RAD-X, A Fallout reference...

    • @VladderGraf
      @VladderGraf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And water purifiers for those villages.

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Vault Boy figure on the desk!

  • @kyrgyzsanjar
    @kyrgyzsanjar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am bound to have an awesome Saturday lazy breakfast! Thanks guys, another thing that I've heard nothing about despite being born in the Soviet Union.

  • @ManonVarendaz
    @ManonVarendaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The other common thread is generally covering up how bad it really is and a failure by the government to take responsibility.

  • @jackhewitt7902
    @jackhewitt7902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The fact that so many nuclear accidents happend within the USSR shows how irresponsible the Soviets where with nuclear power.

  • @michael43216
    @michael43216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have heared of the Kyshtym Disaster: I follow Plainly Difficult, for I am a man of culture.
    :P

    • @tsarbomba1
      @tsarbomba1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quit standing on my foot!

  • @sgtmayhem7567
    @sgtmayhem7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn’t mind that you acknowledged nuclear incidents in the West, but why didn’t you state that they were all relatively minor because Western reactors are surrounded by a concrete containment building. Russian communist reactors lacked this safety feature because of the infallibility of Soviet design. You should mention that next time, unless the CCP is one of your supporters.

  • @TheJimboslav
    @TheJimboslav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Pop a Rad-X 😂😂. Love it, fallout became a cultural reference itself!

  • @bonnieblessing2985
    @bonnieblessing2985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ever since Medvedev's 1980 book "Nuclear Disaster in the Urals" was published, this has hardly been an obscure incident. In many ways it remains one of the most severe nuclear disasters, simply because (like Chernobyl) there was very little effort at clean-up apart from "close the door and walk away." It's given us the world's most radioactive lake, for instance. Still a good story.

  • @denisoko8494
    @denisoko8494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes, I remember the similar effect like described at 10:36 , when Chernobyl happened the sky in my city had the very very dirty rainbow colors a few days! Russian communists insisted that everything was OK and no radiation, after radioactive clouds moved, covered and disturbed Scandinavian countries Moscow Commie confessed that it was an accident on a nuclear power plant.

  • @MrVeryfrost
    @MrVeryfrost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It's not just cold war, Russia always keeps it's failures in secrecy. As an example is the recent 2019 accident in Arkhangelsk.

    • @caorusso4926
      @caorusso4926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope will not take long before we know what really happen there

    • @hadirahman3036
      @hadirahman3036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So do America and china

    • @pikmaniac2643
      @pikmaniac2643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hadirahman3036 the difference at least in the US though is that free speech and open press make it a lot tougher to maintain cover-ups, so it's often less damning to simply admit the incident. For example, Three Mile Island didn't take long to garner public attention.

    • @hadirahman3036
      @hadirahman3036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pikmaniac2643 Americans only know about the Vietnam War in 1968 after several years.... They also had no knowledge about several American and cia operations in the past and current,, examples the atom bomb, area 51,iran-contra affair....

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hadirahman3036
      keep it coming

  • @ForelliBoy
    @ForelliBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    [obligatory HBO chernobyl meme reference]

  • @patrickjspoon
    @patrickjspoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That Steamed Hams reference will last longer than any radiation.

  • @Nick-tv5pu
    @Nick-tv5pu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahh nuclear disasters. The one thing the soviets could beat the Americans at

  • @valentinstoyanov304
    @valentinstoyanov304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Never heard of the "Kyshtym disaster". Years ago I saw a documentary about the Chelyabinsk nuclear incident but this is not the same event, is it? Interestingly enough, I grew up near the nuclear power plant of Kozloduy (Bulgaria) and I kinda know a lot about the nuclear "developments" over the decades but the Kyshtym disaster is something entirely new to me...

    • @Real_Eggman
      @Real_Eggman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same disaster.

    • @valentinstoyanov304
      @valentinstoyanov304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soulsphere9242 Nope. It was a movie on Discovery Channel about the Chelyabinsk explosion...

    • @Harriet1822
      @Harriet1822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zhores Medyedev, _Nuclear Disaster In The Urals_. He knew that some waste storage facility had exploded. He studied articles in Soviet Biology journals on the effects of radiological contamination of lakes and deduced from the isotopes involved and the reported size of the lakes that this was not a controled experiment.

  • @menwithven8114
    @menwithven8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm new to this channel is it good? Any recommendations for paticular videos on here would be greatly appreciated.

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It is good. Not biased at all!

    • @unfairfight3625
      @unfairfight3625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you are interested in the Soviet Union,,this channel has tons of gems 💯, i recommend the ones with interviews from Sergei sputnikoff to get started and i would sub to ushanka show, made by comrade Sergei,,

    • @menwithven8114
      @menwithven8114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@unfairfight3625 I've ALWAYS been into modern military history from the great war to current day so I have do doubt I will like this. Heres a pretty interesting fact about my family. My great uncle was Michael Wittmann and I share his last name. He was arguably the best tank commander ever but unfortunately he was a nazi. I reccomend anyone look up a video about him because he pulled off some insane, extremely effective tactics. Allies had a bounty on him and killed him shortly after D day I believe somewhere up by Calais.

    • @leventkandemir1686
      @leventkandemir1686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes it is i m heresince the begınnıng their topıcs are intresting

    • @unfairfight3625
      @unfairfight3625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@menwithven8114 im a decentant of Normand Vikings our history is written down since the around year 990 when construction of the castle began,,in the battle of hastings,1066, one of my ancestors participated and is on the bayeux tapisterry,,im a decentant of his,,his dad had the castle built, it was destroyed in a war unfortunately,,a few centuries after we was deported to France 1755,,my family came back in 1790s and established the village I am in in 1800, im also on the original property, it is extremely remote and rich in wildlife,, i will definitely check your great uncle that sounds really interesting,,,yup these are not war based channels,, they are about life in the Soviet Union in general.

  • @bryancoats5328
    @bryancoats5328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The RBMK reactor which was the reactor used in all soviet era reactors was built so hurriedly, was built with a fatal flaw which contributed to the 1986 Chernobyl disaster and other nuclear incidents in the Soviet Union. The flaw was pointed out by several engineers, but like most information of this type, it was silenced by the party.

  • @bhutochakrabarti4173
    @bhutochakrabarti4173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Sadly in a show of power innocent people had to die.

    • @bradycollins5267
      @bradycollins5267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All hail equality ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾

    • @ADR199E
      @ADR199E 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very true and thats what sucks the most. :/

    • @JSKR6
      @JSKR6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s just how it works, sacrifices r made in the process

    • @bhutochakrabarti4173
      @bhutochakrabarti4173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Libturds Suck Well ur right tovarischi
      . Merry Christmas to everyone.

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JSKR6
      Namely ordinary folk.

  • @vladimirdyuzhev
    @vladimirdyuzhev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to build the bomb quick, because the US and Britain had detailed plans to nuclear bomb the Soviet Union. With this background in mind, a few accidents are a small price to pay for creating our own bomb and securing the MAD.
    Chernobyl had different root causes. It was not a rush construction to catch up with the US. It was the country that was coming apart, including all the management practices.

  • @BengalLancer
    @BengalLancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Anyone else liking this setup?

    • @TheColdWarTV
      @TheColdWarTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *raises hand in agreement*

    • @rosswebster7877
      @rosswebster7877 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ishraq Sowad Same! Much less cluttered and claustrophobic.

  • @petergambier
    @petergambier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks David, Kyshtym, yet another nuclear accident I never heard of. As you said the rather excellent series Chernobyl really brings home the reality of Soviet incompetence with all things nuclear as well as the odd order of evacuation.

  • @juliuscaesar8925
    @juliuscaesar8925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I bet $50 that this video will be good and I have only seen the first minute of it.

  • @daffers2345
    @daffers2345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember reading about this. I wanted to try to get a list published on a trivia site, so I looked up a bunch of lesser-known nuclear disasters. The list didn't get accepted, but I learned a lot about the disasters. The nuclear field is more dangerous than many people think.
    I am actually more worried about this disaster than I am about the aftereffects of Chernobyl, since that one has been public and they are constantly working to contain/clean it up. This one was not given the same level of care.

  • @SkullKing11841
    @SkullKing11841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If 90000 people got cancer and such that makes it significantly worse than Chernobyl where over a 80 year period 200 people are likely to die and Fukishima where no one will die.

  • @MissFoxification
    @MissFoxification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You could probably make an hour long episode of what went on at and around Kyshtym and still not cover all of it. The soviets initiallyrefused to move people away from the disaster zone to they could study them, the people became human guinea pigs. Then when they finally accepted they needed to resettle them they moved them CLOSER to the river when they'd receive a higher dose. They made sure to not compensate the people enough to move, they couldn't go anywhere.
    Then there's the fact they hired prisoners to work at the reactor.. they just went from failure to failure to catastrophic failures. When they dumped the waste in the river they were actually running river water into and back out of the reactor to avoid a meltdown.
    Frankly, we're lucky they didn't screw it up worse, failure was inevitable.

  • @lylecosmopolite
    @lylecosmopolite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We will never know how many people died as a result of Kyshtym and Chernoby.
    In 1978, the New York Times published a long article about a major Soviet nuclear accident east of the Urals. I read that article in real time and was very disturbed. I suspect that at least one retired CIA agent talked to a New York Times reporter. It could even be the case that the NYT got its hands on 1 or more Russian or CIA documents. The NYT acknowledged having talked to people who had worked in the American embassy in Moscow.

  • @mcchonky5709
    @mcchonky5709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Soviet Peepee Union

    • @SS-hw1ou
      @SS-hw1ou 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soviet Union performed better than Nazi, or Winnie the Pooh

  • @chrisrosenkreuz23
    @chrisrosenkreuz23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so that's why they got chernobyl so wrong, they had practice in doing so

  • @chris5942
    @chris5942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RadX! Playing Fallout 4 now. I have some!!

  • @skau-yeong9191
    @skau-yeong9191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first mention of Mayak/Kyshtym/Chelyabinsk-40 disaster I read about was in 'Midnight in Chernobyl' which was unstoppably good. Nice that you covered it but no mention of the East Ural Radioactive Trace?

  • @iron60bitch62
    @iron60bitch62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In totalitarian regimes cover-up is how they are handled

  • @gregcampwriter
    @gregcampwriter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is also the general location of the 2013 meteor.

  • @a8205-w8h
    @a8205-w8h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:40 the British also exploited a loophole in the Geneva conventions to force thousands of German soldiers to do slave labour as reparation in the years after the war, although, with a smaller death rate compared to the Gulags.

  • @willowd1723
    @willowd1723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a lake that they used to dump radioative fuel rods that were already spent

  • @rogierbrussee3460
    @rogierbrussee3460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Kyshtym event seems much, much, more serious than the Fukushima disaster. For all the reason mentioned in the video the Kyshtym event was played down, and it didn't involve a reactor. That is probably why it "only" got classified as a type 6 event. But from the description it seems to have been essentially a big dirty bomb that went off in populated area spraying hughe amounts of radioactive material (some 800 PBq according to wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster). It had a deathtoll in the thousands. On the other hand, despite the extreme seriousness of the Fukushima event triggered by an unprecedented Tsunami that killed at least 15000 people and spectacular Hydrogen explosions (shown in the video), (perhaps) one person died, the containment (just) held despite a meltdown, and most of the around 20 PBq Cs released flowed in the Ocean where it was quickly diluted by the fast moving Japan current in the vastness of the Pacific.

    • @deniseproxima2601
      @deniseproxima2601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You eat the fish and the corporations and worker Agentur will say: You can work after the cancer till the next.

  • @JonatasAdoM
    @JonatasAdoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If they had a number of days without accident plaque, it would actually be a scale of how radioactive the whole area was.

  • @GhostRanger5060
    @GhostRanger5060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't watch TV much. Don't even own one. But when my son had me watch Chernobyl episode 1 on HBO during a visit to his house, I was immediately hooked. I came home and watched the whole mini-series via Amazon Prime. One of the most chilling things I ever watched. The mini-series does conclude that Chernobyl was a result of cheap Soviet construction. A litany of engineering shortcuts, shoddy work, and poor facility leadership. And that the disaster was enhanced by dogmatic Soviet propaganda and Soviet unwillingness to admit it's errors. Finding someone convenient to blame, anyone, was more important than finding solutions to the problem of a 2,600 square kilometer radioactive apocalypse.
    I hope everyone watches it. This previous disaster only reinforces the lessons of Chernobyl for those of us looking backward through Cold War History.
    Thank you for your always outstanding content.

  • @adamsteele6148
    @adamsteele6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cost of lies

  • @Zantides
    @Zantides 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice and informative video 👍

  • @frankkolton1780
    @frankkolton1780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember what Tomep (Homer) Simpsonkova says, "What happens in Siberia, stays in Siberia, comrade".

  • @joshuabishop5527
    @joshuabishop5527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I watch these videos, the more I’m led to believe the US was just as bad as the USSR 😬

  • @OGDeepStroke
    @OGDeepStroke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 Mile Island was a day care compared to what was unleashed in the Ukraine.

  • @aidanhart9871
    @aidanhart9871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tough lessons to learn .... I so despise nuclear power

    • @theclockworksolution8521
      @theclockworksolution8521 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This wasn’t power-related. It was a plutonium production plant for weapons.

    • @aidanhart9871
      @aidanhart9871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theclockworksolution8521 doesn't really matter xD .... I despise both

    • @aidanhart9871
      @aidanhart9871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ghgg facts being " nuclear power is the safest most environmentally friendly form of energy" ?? That's the biggest pile of bullshit ever .... propaganda from the 50s ....its by far the most damaging and dangerous ...lots of energy sure but im so glad my part of the world is very anti nuclear ..to the point where we kicked and banned the US navy

  • @longlakeshore
    @longlakeshore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was in high school in the late 1970s CBS reported the Kyshtym disaster on 60 Minutes. Harry Reasoner presented the claims of dissidents who leaked the story. He showed Russian maps of the area published after 1957. Several towns and villages were missing compared to maps published before 1957.

  • @ramona14220
    @ramona14220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I lived around 3 mile island. Not much of a disaster as disasters go.

  • @thelovertunisia
    @thelovertunisia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Complacancy maked accidents. I work in manufacturing and I have seen accidents where fingers have been crushed or ripped off because of complacancy. People get comfortable in their routine and stop being cautious till disaster happens.

    • @leechowning2712
      @leechowning2712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People too often forget the rule on safety rules. "Every safety rule is written in blood" should remind people that these rules are there because someone else was hurt.

    • @thelovertunisia
      @thelovertunisia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leechowning2712 Oh yes. Sadly true.

  • @HeavenlyMandate
    @HeavenlyMandate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rad-X. Ur a man of culture, david

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video, I learned from it! Never hear of Kyshtym.
    Kudos!

  • @PhonciblePBonehimself
    @PhonciblePBonehimself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    6 out of 7 on the INES scale ? Not great, not terrible

  • @illegalclown
    @illegalclown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first heard about this a year ago. I was watching old archived news reports from when the Chernobyl accident happened and there was a passing phrase about there being a suspected but unconfirmed report of an accident decades earlier. I was like, "Wait, what, why have I never heard of this?" I had to start researching it right away.

  • @pizzapicante27
    @pizzapicante27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frankly it should be said that *no one* learned from Kyshtym the same problems Chernobyl had wer present in all other nuclear facilities over the planet, it was the Soviet sharing of information after that that really led to the understanding of just how easily these problems can occur, and if Fukushima shows us something is that its not a matter of "if", but rather "when" when it comes to nuclear power.

  • @semorbuts419
    @semorbuts419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the fallout reference

  • @Mr.Nichan
    @Mr.Nichan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying the Fukushima disaster was worse that Kyshtym and Winscale (which had about the same estimated death toll) is suspicious to me. A lot of people died because of the Fukushima EARTHQUAKE, TSUNAMI, and evacuation stress, but there has only been one confirmed fatality (of a plant-worker who got cancer) from the nuclear aspect of the disaster, as well as 2 workers who got radiation burns and some people (at least 11 workers, 16 people probably) were injured in the explosion.

  • @michaelmorrison4201
    @michaelmorrison4201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scientists on the 29th: "man how did those Americans get anything to explode??"
    *KAABOOOOOM!!*
    Scientists: "well that's interesting..."

  • @srrl1232
    @srrl1232 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why radioactive materials is too deadly?
    Because uranium and other radioctive things full of radiation and radiation wawes(Alpha,Gamma and...)brokes human cells and deads humans.
    Chernobyl is worlds biggest nuclear disaster because nuclear reactor block 4 exploded and radioactive materials spread all of chernobyl town and this materials very very deadly:Uranium,plutonium,graphite...

  • @tszirmay
    @tszirmay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    secrecy never stays secret....

  • @paulohagan3309
    @paulohagan3309 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Despite this [being 3rd worst nuke accident] you've probably never heard of it'. Well, we are talking about the government in Russia here. Chernobyl was only discovered in the West because a Swedish monitoring facility accidently noted an unexplained spike in radioactivity

  • @robinwells8879
    @robinwells8879 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The mark of a communistic society is the complete negation of the self. It’s your duty and honour to give all for the collective as a whole. Selfless sacrifice is the expected social norm, at least amongst the lower orders. Not perhaps so much amongst the leaders who are a bit more equal!
    It would be entirely normal to evacuate the "useful" people before civilians, for whom it would be an honour to suffer for the revolution. This was viewed as a life and death struggle for which martyrdom would be essential.
    Right and Left leaning totalitarian societies are two sides of the same coin. National Socialists on one side and Communists on the other. Both require subservience to the motherland.

  • @gojo76
    @gojo76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice video . love the cold war , could you please make a video covering japan during this era

  • @Killer-fb2se
    @Killer-fb2se 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he make a fucking fallout reference?

    • @sorryforthings72
      @sorryforthings72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  • @markrossow6303
    @markrossow6303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ( the curved + convex tv in back left reminds me of the West German ones of 1970s / 1980s
    like those pre-CGI Mainzelmännchen, anyone ? )

  • @nicholaskelly6375
    @nicholaskelly6375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The British had been told privately about the disaster. But not in detail.
    Also in a number of Soviet Scientific Journals details of the accident were discussed. Again not in detail but alerting Russian reading scientists outside the USSR that some sort of major accident had occurred. Soviet Scientific Journals tended to be quite open. My late father who spent a great deal of time researching the Soviet Auto industry told me that often the Soviet Union was academically quite forthright. But you had to be able to read Russian!
    It is worth noting at this point the British Government was very circumspect when it came to "Nuclear Accidents" and directly lied to the Americans about the Windscale Incident (Again the USSR was privately informed but not in detail) However the Americans were given an elaborate cover story!
    The major powers kept very quiet about such things.
    Also quite often during the Cold War each side would say "We will criticize you in Public. But back you to the hilt in private" !

  • @MaciusSzwed
    @MaciusSzwed ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the BIGGEST nuclear disaster on planet earth ever! In that small lake nearby the factory there is 200 times more radioactivity than the 50 million bequerel that Chernobyl spewed out into the atmosphere.

  • @sigsin1
    @sigsin1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or 1959 Santa Susana Field Lab, MUCH worse than 3 Mile Island. This was covered up and no one was evacuated. So many incidents of cancer.

  • @none941
    @none941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They were lucky that the blast was chemical in origin (fertilizer bomb), and not a criticality accident which would have produced an actual nuclear blast. Something to think about, given the level 6 severity of what happened.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pattern here is that Soviets gave very few ****s about nuclear risks.
    Soviet nuke waste was especially badly handled but USA and U.K. had some pretty nasty incidents. There was also the criticality incident where nuke waste exploded out of a dumping hole in the ground.

  • @dimebag124
    @dimebag124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Sir, where are we going to put this very dangerous nuclear waste that takes thousands of years to become non radioactive?"
    "Dump it in the river then also dump some in the lake."
    Soviets be like "F**k environmentalism!"

  • @avail1.
    @avail1. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SL 1- Idaho - Lt.Jimmy Carter Nuclear Specialist I believe the first, and worst before Chernobyl

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657 ปีที่แล้ว

    TMI was hardly a thing, I really wish people would look into it and get over their fears already. And stop bringing that up and keeping in the forefront, that's part of the problem. Do and episode on TMI, an accurate one.

  • @Zer0fuks
    @Zer0fuks ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: Kyshtym and Chernobyl were both caused by the same thing. Lt Col Tom Bearden explains why.

  • @CarlDidur
    @CarlDidur 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chalk River NRX accident in 1952 in Canada included a fuel meltdown and subsequent hydrogen explosions and is only dismissed as a serious accident due to nuclear awareness being so low at the time, IMHO.

  • @senatorstevenarmstrong7434
    @senatorstevenarmstrong7434 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was ranked 6 in nuclear events
    Chernobyl was ranked 7 and so was Fukushima
    America was ranked 5 or 6 I think..?

  • @andyturner3056
    @andyturner3056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My biggest interest in history is the Cold War. Mainly because of the technology that came out of it. Thnx for sharing. This is really interesting 👌

  • @chriscich
    @chriscich 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apparently the Kyshtym Incident was covered up by Comrade Skinner who cooks a great Steamed Ham. 👍

  • @sickpuppyz
    @sickpuppyz ปีที่แล้ว

    Should apend more time on Lake Karachai - most polited place on earth. Less than an hour on its shore = deadly contamination. The reactors were also dumping the cooling water right back in which caused that lake to be contaminated too. Rypical soviet carelessness when it comes to one the more 169 etjnicities living in the imperialist ussr.

  • @grimwaltzman
    @grimwaltzman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful soviet work and management cultures at their finest folks.

  • @eldridgebrown3907
    @eldridgebrown3907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was quite excellent. Thank you.

  • @zoperxplex
    @zoperxplex 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes I think that if there were not a West from which the Russians would ape the accourtrements of civilization they would still be living as their nomadic ancestors.

  • @hughg.gaines6027
    @hughg.gaines6027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cutting edge technologies.. being pressed out at breakneck speeds... a recipe for disaster. Sounds familiar for some reason?