1983 Nissan Z31 Fairlady Z 200zs: Regular Car Reviews
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I get an error that says "We don't see that page" when I click on the link.
Edit: It's fixed
Link doesn't work - No best 4Runner for you
page still goes nowhere :(
Props to simplisafe for putting their ad in front of "I piss myself in the splash zone." We need more brave advertisers like this. Seems they understand that no one watches RCR by accident and no one will be offended. Thanks for going against the usual trend of advertiser censorship.
Works now!
"You almost can't take the soft curves and aggressive front grills of modern cars seriously; they're like angry corgis."
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Thats such a nice I-ROC Camaro
The nicest
Camaro+Japan=Beautiful
Thank you for saying what everyone is thinking
Its a z thats wants to be a iroc
@@nakiapollard4093 those irocs are trash tho
"Doug Yagel" sounds like his blood type is Lionshead Deluxe and drives a rusted-out GMC Astro van with a Dole/Kemp '96 bumper sticker.
This description is so specific that it genuinely worries me :|
Lionshead - this comment is PA gold
@@vtr0104 being so specific is how you define what part of PA you're in
AINT NO WAY THAT PERVERT SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!
This is the car he drives down to the QuickTrip to fight Joey Myers for Two-Thumb Trish.
This car looks like you asked someone to draw a 1982 Firebird Trans Am from memory, and then they realized they were drawing a Fiero halfway through.
why is that so accurate
Lol wow
This was the first time I had heard "Kaminari body kit" since 1997.
Kaminari, Buddy Club, Greddy there was a ton of good ones but I'm drawing a blank
they still make mk3 supra kaminari kits
Damn man, thats 24 years ago now
I thought of Kaminari from My Hero Academia, lol
@@manjirum they still make kits for Z's too, but the molds have expanded, so you need to do a lot of work to get them to fit right.
Mr Regular, in regards to your ads, as a longtime viewer I have to say, get that bread. You deserve the best damn 4 Runner you can find.
Those rear seats fold flat. I used to drive to the middle of nowhere, lay in the back of my z with my girlfriend and we'd watch the stars through the hatch.
"Watch the stars". So thats another name for it, i guess.
Same with my Porsche 924S. Fuckin loved that car
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Pretty sure they were playing magic the gathering.
Then take her to POUND TOWN
That was what we did before "Netflix and chill".
So the 200ZS is a Touge car with a small turbo V6. So a perfect car. The Z31 is arguably my favorite generation of the Z cars. Cause it was actually relatively practical.
That's exactly what I was thinking. After you get over the novelty of the Trueno this is the car you ACTUALLY want to pretend you're doing downhill pass racing in early 90s Japan.
@@MalikCarr well, I'd probably still take a Fiberglass boat smelling FB RX-7 over it for such things, but definitely a very close second. Tied with the Levin Corolla for me, just because I prefer NA. Turbo's can be a bit, idk, weird, for me. But yeah arguably a really good car for such things too. Though the AE86 beats it in practicality, just barely. I just wish it was available for Assetto Corsa, cause there's no way I can ever afford one in real life. And even if I could afford it I can't register it in my country... Fucking emissions regulations coupled with strict modification laws basically kill any chance of adapting older cars to newer regulations here.
As someone who previously dailied one, its just as practical as a 3 dooe hatchback. Tons of storage space and no sports car prerequisites for driving it like a normal car.
@@MalikCarr no what you truly want is a supercharged version of the MK1 MR2 😉 reason it's not as popular as it's Corolla brother is because it was kinda expensive back in the day compared to the tofu delivery vehicle.
@@RetroMotiveAdventures it's still more expensive...
Fun on backroads and a bore on the highway is exactly how I’d describe my Nissan today
What kind cus it seems interesting
Honestly, unless your thing is stupidly dangerous illegal high speed pulls, any more excitement than the minimum needed to keep you from falling asleep is kind of unnecessary for highway driving.
@@alexandersteele4212 Nissan Altima lol. Got some Yokohama tires and added rear ballast to shift the weight balance
Oh yeah. Same. 280z with some engine internal mods. Geared to pull into redline even in 5th, since it used to be a road track racer.
But God damn my golf is probably faster in every way. Amazing what 40 years has done to cars.
Ah, so it’s a Miata. Got it.
I reviewed this same car from Joe last fall, and It is one of my all time favorites! So glad you had the opportunity!
At around 6:15, when you talked about making the same life compromises as kei car drivers, I first thought of K car drivers (like myself). I thought back to when you reviewed the 88 Reliant wagon and timed the 0-60 run at around 19 seconds, so maybe that's a similarity between driving a kei car and driving a K-car.
I thought he was talking about K cars, too.
Is a K car a different thing than a Kai car?
Please forgive me if this is something obvious but english isn’t my first language and I only have a little knowledge about classic Japanese cars (however I admire them very much!)
@@rolux4853 the K platform was a Chrysler and Kei cars are basically Japanese small cars like the autozam. The K platform was slow because it was soft and fragile, the Kei cars are slow because they are small and you don't need to go fast to feel fast in them.
@@lolbuster01 They're also slow because Japanese laws pretty much ensure that they have to be. Kei cars are required to be tiny and have small engines, though they have grown over the years considerably over the years. They're city cars, and not designed for highway driving.
@@rolux4853, the Chrysler K platform supported the Dodge Aries, Plymouth Reliant, Chrysler LeBaron, and a few others. Variants of the platform also underpinned larger cars like the Chrysler New Yorker, Dodge Caravan, Plymouth Voyager, etc. They were quite popular in 80s North America.
This made me really miss my '87 Z31. VG33 bottom end and Holset turbo. That thing was insane. Always wanted to RB swap it, but never did. Wish I'd have kept it.
Nice. I still got mine. Na2t with hx35 is my setup. Miss driving it tho, needs new injectors but priorities.
miss my 88 shiro :(
@@voidxemz Mine started as a white '87 NA2T, then got the 3.3 liter bottom end from a Nissan Quest and an HX35 with a custom top mount turbo header, Walbro 450, big FMIC and a heavily shimmed Q45 rear end, Stance coilovers, short shifter, etc. Not sure exactly on power but it was sketchy on 20PSI at anything under 50 MPH. I really miss that car. Got rid of it because turbo header cracked and then turbo started smoking. It was a really dumb reason to sell it. I have a video on my channel of it smoking.
Built z31s are super cool because you never see them. Or atleast I don't. They seem to be getting quite expensive these days.
I drove my 86 300zx NA to 350k miles and sold it. I still shifted like a dream. I really miss that car.
I love how Roman just roasts the absolute crap out of every car he reviews, it’s hilarious! 😂
Even if it was a compromise, 170hp out of a 1998cc V6 was still really good for 1983. Basically all you could get from GM was a 3.8L V6 that made 110hp or a 5L V8 that made 160hp. And basically all you could get from ford was a Windsor v8 that might make 175hp. And they all got 17mpg, if you were trying your absolute best to accommodate the rules of inertia.
Indeed. it only took until a good decade plus ago to get real heads and parts to support these engines to make screamers that could now run circles around these cars, but back then especially it was port the piss out of everything, learn a few tricks from NASCAR and Drag racers around you and pray to fucking god the engine made it to the other end. God help any man that went mountain running with one.
T type was just under 200.
Not true. 3800 series 1 supercharged was available which made over 200hp stock.
@@jr540123 On the other hand the VG30 stock internals can handle 400whp, and you can still build one that way if you want. I've got a VG30ET sitting in the shop that still may go into my TR7 'vert. Should be interesting.
That rising sun painted on the underside of the hood is glorious
Have to be careful with that flag - it's seen as similar to a nazi flag to some folks
It’s in poor taste, but probably out of ignorance. That specific design is uhh not viewed fondly in other parts of Asia.
@@adammiller8133 well that's their problem isn't it also Japan still uses the Rising sun
@@seb_1504 um that would be like poland and Hungary not liking the nazi flag being 'their problem'. Not trying to be PC police about it just letting you guys know the Japanese did a lot of stuff in WW2 that created some bad cultural memories for some people that see this flag.
@@errhka However, in this context we can detach the WW2 context from it. The rising sun is very adequately applied to the emergence and influence of japan's car industry.
Besides... all countries did war crimes.
I have the same problem on the highway with my E36. Terrible gearing for cruising at modern highway speeds, but backroads are so fun.
A e36 2.5l with 5 speed at 3.46 final, is not terrible on the highway just noisy. It has vanos and that kicks in sometime in the 3000rpm range, with that gearing your above 3500rpm at around 70mph. Just spend her to ketchup, she will take you there with out fussing. I drove one making long highway runs for a few years putting about 100,000 miles on it.
I have 4.10 Gears on my Mustang GT 5 speed. It’s not too bad. Gets 18 mpg average. Loads of fun on highway pulls and on backroads.
@@1mouse3 Yeah, I have a pretty loud exhaust and it can get kinda annoying after a while. It's nice having the torque though to pass people.
My 97 328is has much better gearing for the highway with its 5spd than my 2014 fiesta ST does with 6
Midnight club and Forza barn find references....too cool!!
Regular home alarm system reviews
If he wants to raise money, all he'd need to do is review various products in his normal style. Even if it's a blatant ad, we'd still all watch it. And we'd know poop jokes and references to masturbation are high praise - the challenge would be convincing the company making the product of this.
@@quillmaurer6563 this is true. Im just feisty cus my life sucks
The thing I love about RCR is that I always leave with a greater appreciation and/or understanding for the cars they feature even if its a car that doesn't really deserve attention.
Nissan during this time had so many fun economical cars. Shame that the 300zx has gone so much up in price in the past few years.
The past year only honestly from what I’ve seen. 2019 the average was like 2k
Compared to the value of the US Dollar, the Z cars have been really inexpensive. In 1996, a twin turbo 300zx was 55k USD...about $100k in today's money.
Huh, last time I was looking at them a couple years ago, they were all beat up and selling for $5,000 for a mint condition car. If anything, their recent attention is saving them.
@@sfsango8559 yeah and that was running and driving without the stupid mods punks put on so many Japanese sports cars.
@@j887276 Bruh 300ZXs are so cheap to but now. Had they starred in F&F and/or Need For Speed, they would've been $100,000.00 as we speak.
I FUCKING LOVE IT, " we need a new camera car and only a 4runner will do " What year you looking at? I absolutely salute the sponsor, you deserve to be loaded with the entertainment value you provide all of us.
yeah about time he got one, the retractable rear window would be killer on a camera car
The first car where I was rained on with a roof over my head (t-tops leaked) was a 1984 300zx.
they always do
Just like the Del Sol's targa. They always leak. You can make them leak less... but you can't stop it.
@@musewolfman yup I had one for 3 years and leaked for all of them lol
My high school car in 1992-95 was a 1979 280zx. It was a great car. I did so much work to it I leanred all about cars
I love Z31s. I drove two of them back in 2015, and the dashboard on the turbo one makes it a complete outrun vaporwave dream interior. Thank god they're still relatively cheap. 100% my favorite Z generation.
They are getting up there. I bought mine in 2015 for $2k, running and rust free. Now they go for around $10k anywhere.
The digital dash was a separate package you could get. They're on NAs and turbos. You can still get them for 2k, you just have to hunt around and be content with a few issues. The only 10K ones are the super good condition turbos
@@MrBoom6009 ive seen some NA autos reaching up that high, finding a 5 speed turbo is getting hard. I sold mine for $2500 back around 2009 or so.
I can’t even find one for under 30k AUD here
I LOVE the nod to My Fair Lady in your ending song, Roman. You guys are more cultured than people realize.
would have been nice to actually hear the engine
Make peace with 4000rpm on the highway and know that your place is on the backroads sounds a hell of a lot like Miata ownership as well
My old Integra GS-R suffered the same issue. Before we swapped the trans but the difference was negligible.
My first car was a 87 Nissan 300zx and this car reminds me of it so much. Still my favorite car i'v ever owned.
Have my like. We got a solid car review, a Roman song (finally!), a neat car, and some oddball Reg humor. Great review.
I love how even though he tries different voices, it always slowly just morphs back into Mr Plinkett.
The Plinkett mind virus will do that.
Really glad Joseph got his car reviewed! His website and knowledge has helped me countless times with my z31s.
I owned a 1985 300ZX Turbo 2+2 automatic with T-Tops. Bought it from the original owner and rolled around in that for a year. Sold it and found my dream Z31; a 1986 Fairlady Z 200ZR 2+2 slicktop (-I) manual! It's the last inline 6 Z car, with the first generation RB20DET. Adore the car and I love the history behind it.
@Sean Price unfortunately only on the GTS-R. A standard DET didn't get the nice exhaust manifold.
And now I fully understand why I saw the my first one of these in Boone North Carolina
I owned a Z31 20 years ago. Was a HUGE pain in the ass to work on. Was very happy when I sold it.
The honesty of you wanting that 4Runner is quite refreshing. Instead of pretending you love the product, your honest about it. Also I always loved how these cars V A P O R W A V E look, but I never knew they were so slow. that's a shame.
I like the Z31 because it looks like a bodykit for the S130. One specific kit. If you know, you know.
You mean the one in the Mid Night club s130? I always thought that particular car had Z31 aspirations
@@rushmatic Yep. And no, it was built before the Z31 existed. There is a good chance Nissan took inspiration from it, because some members of the Mid Night Club were tuners and CEO's. It's also not running a VG like everyone thinks, it's running it's factory L28, but it's been stroked and bored so far that nobody is sure how much displacement it's got. It also runs an insanely low amount of boost (under 3PSI) which is most likely how it hasn't blown up. And that car broke 200MPH.
@@xerodelacroix5552 it’s a 3.1 L28 with IHI RHC6 VX55 turbo(s)?, OS Giken triple plate clutch, 5 speed from a Z31 300zx, and an ABR original clutch. If you want more details, lemme know
Source: Option Magazine
9:16 this angle makes the car look like an old man who worked an office job all throughout his youth, developed lazy eye, and retired.
I kind of wish we got a chance to see more of the 200ZR (which had an rb20) in the US as well, but I always have to appreciate a Z31
The BEST engine Nissan made, better than any of the bigger RBs.
Nissan's Subaru BRZ of the early '80's.
Yet this Z is overshadowed in its time. There were dozens of these widely sold in the Middle East Arabia. Nowadays there being are bargain fresh like from the factory. I gotta say they're not my cup of tea nor anything pity.
On the other hand have you seen US Spec bumper safety on these ?
As a Canadian, I was SO PROUD OF YOU when you used the square drive (Robertson) bit to install your camera!
Well spoken advertisement on the surveillance equipment, peace of mind is always priceless.
I know a lot of independent contractors that wind up importing K10 blazers to Japan and finding loopholes to argue that it is a "Work Vehicle". Some enthusiasts register paper companies just to claim that deduction and suck on sweet, sweet American V8. Edit: I got to Roman's closing bar, and hecc Roman... nice one.
i love these. I really want a z32 but these are arguably just as if not more charming
RCR is the only channel where I will listen to the entire sponsor bit
That was the real Nissan of the yesterday. It’s a keeper.
Happy Motoring!
not even 3 minutes in and there's a Cedar Point reference, I am loving this
holy shit and a Youngstown mention I need to change my pants
Since I haven't seen this comment posted anywhere else (although that doesn't mean anything): It's not actually "Z," despite the fact that even Nissan in America calls it that. That character on the front of the car is "Otsu" (乙), the first character in the word "Otome" (乙女) which means, perhaps unsurprisingly, maiden. So there's your Fairlady.
"Cadillac converter!!"
Wrong. As I saw on Facebook Marketplace, it's a "Catholic Converter."
(Guy still hasn't fixed the ad.)
@@amerigo88 🤣🤣🤣🤣my bad my bad
I owned a Z31 2+0 with a welded diff and straight piped exhaust when my son was born. I didn't care much for them before owning it. I bought it because my SW20 burned down, and I needed a car fast and I drove to Bellingham, WA from Seattle, WA to buy this at night time, in the rain. I truly grew to appreciate it and sold it when I needed rear seats. I now feel nostalgic about this car. Oh yeah, my dad bought one second hand, when they were still a relatively new car. I don't recollect it but my folk's say they would prop me up in the middle of the transmission hump. (back before they cracked down on seatbelt laws, lol)
When you going to the Boyertown Historical Vehicle Museum? All the vehicles there have to to with Pennsylvania in some way. Ought to check them out.
Been watching for a couple years, best car review channel out there and I would love to see a podcast
Depending on who’s looking, that car is really sleepy or really high.
I see what you did with the nod to My Fair Lady at the end, Roman. You clever bloke, you.
Roman always earns extra points when the song is a showtune.
In the time this car was from (and until the early 2000's) the freeway speed limit in Japan was 80kph (50mph) - And you would not get away with 100kph! (62mph).....but the mountain roads had no police outside of major towns.......many still don't
This is making me miss both of my z’s too much. They were so strang and so loveable.
I never realised that these Z31s ever had a 2 litre engine. UK spec ones just had the 3 litre option, called the 300 ZX.
I didnt know that either. I was confused when I saw 200zs. I've only ever seen 300zx here in the US
I once owned an '84 300 ZX. That car was fast :)
Nissan Z31: the official car of Appalachian back roads.
Nissan 200ZS: the car you actually want to bring to Tail of the Dragon.
@@musewolfman - ... unless you want to get ticketed by either State Patrol.
Got that reference from WallieB26 (the Abandoned Store Weirdo) from the YT driving video he and his girlfriend Kayla did in his Cavalier Z24 through that road (between NC and TN).
I will like this video because I want you to get that 4runner
The song at the the end is sung to the tune "On the Street Where You Live" which is from the Broadway show My Fair Lady. Well played RCR, well played.
RCR better get some sponsors , dude deserves so fkn much of it.
200zs
1983, looks like a 84-86 from the rear and a 87-89 on the front.
It doesnt have the distinguishable 4 eyes in the front. What a wild child Z!!!
I have three old 280zx that I've been working on restoring with my dad for over 10 years. Thought I knew a good bit about these older zcars, had no idea about this one! So cool that y'all did such an interesting car. I will definitely be hitting up this guy's website. I hope you are able to get a good 4runner, y'all deserve it. I still remember when y'all had silicon Sally!
You really need to review the mitsubishi eclipse D20. The history behind and infront of these cars are worth a whole video. These things where the start of jdm scene in america.
The Z31 is my second favorite Z behind the original 240Z. It's just so 80s.
This has been the single best youtube ad read ever.
This car is perfect for my neck of the woods: the back roads of the Texas Hill Country
Was I the only one who really wanted to hear what this thing sounded like? Please release the pov drive or something with original sound, I'd love to hear it!!
80's jdm cars dont get enough attention
Keep it that way. I want to get em all cheap
They've gone up DRAMATICALLY.
Oh they don't get enough attention you say? Go try to buy one right now that isn't a ragged POS for under 5,000. Under 10,000 even.
Yea nah they got too much attention. I cant get a decent fc for around 5k anymore😑
Wish I could've bought one back when they were less than 10grand
that cedar point pic gave me ptsd flashbacks of when i got drenched by that water ride, then had a terrible full body rash for the next 3 days.
As much love as the 90s jdm cars get, i wish people gave the 80's jdm a better tonguebath. they are the reason all those cars are so technologically advanced. because they shoved tech into these cars to see what stuck and its so beautiful to see them kept nice when they are. I'll always look to one of these cars before looking at the rest of the crowd. lovely vid btw
Good review, but something must be addressed and I’m sure I’m not the only one that thinks so.
I really miss when you would go to car meets, shows, museums, or just out in public and rag on builds. Like “Which is best.” I absolutely love those, and I’d like to see more.
If he explained why they stopped in a previous video that I just missed, could someone send me the link?
I don’t think Mr Regular’s addressed it anywhere, but I can think of two good reasons as to why that’s stopped for the time being
One being The Disease™️ still looming large. True, it wasn’t stopping him previously, but
I suspect the second reason is more relevant and prominent. Y’know how they’re drumming up money to replace Goldie, RCR’s camera car, between this ad and the Mustang giveaway? That’s probably causing the guys more than a few headaches right now. It sucks when the crux of your business is slowly falling apart and in desperate need of replacement.
If it’s still on moratorium after they buy their new 4Runner though, try catching a podcast stream and asking why there. Throwing in a few dollars, if you’re able, will make sure Mr Regular and Roman see it
@@flyingbodysymphony my guess was something a bit different. I assumed that since the channel has gained a bit of following, it would be hard to him to go to anything local or anything remotely large without being recognized by at least one fan, which would slow down the making of that kind of video since he’s kind enough not to ignore them. But what you said also makes sense. I suppose we’ll find out eventually.
Since they are independent entrepreneurs, I doubt they have health insurance, hence self preservation might be futile for them. Best we ask them on the next podcast.
You definitely came while filming this
It's been like six years and I've never confirmed whether or not Mr Regular is a fan of Mr Plinkett
“I swear, it’s gotta be someone a block down from here using a nail gun with a leaky air hose. I swear I haven’t serviced myself in the guest room… ever since that incident with Great Aunt Matilda.”
I love that they are honest about getting a 4 Runner with sponsor money
I literally looked for this video yesterday and I couldn’t find it and then you just happened to post it 😭
170hp actually isn't too bad for 2L displacement in the early 80s. That's like a 350 small block putting out 484hp if you go size per hp. The 350 in the 80s made maybe 200hp?
My grandpa has an 85 300zx. NA and auto, but it's still a neat little car with decent torque.
Shoutout to those in the west coast awake at 4am
I love the absolute transparency on the simplysafe ad. I'm in the market for a security system and now I will add them to my list to compare before I buy.
i've had simplisafe since 2017. higher upfront cost because you have to buy all the sensors (this actually depends on how many sensors you need), but way cheaper monthly. like more than half cheaper monthly compared to ADT.
There was a big tax bracket jump at exactly 2.0L back then. Also applied to cars over a certain *width* which is why the US "widebody" and JDM Accords were different starting in the late '90s.
The trick that made the Z31 work in Japan was when they eventually dropped the RB20DET in it, in the Fairlady 200ZR. Rare but amazing.
And then it was yolo the hell with it with the Z32. 3.0L widebody only!
whenever I hear "Fairlady" I immediately think of the Datsun 280ZX, the model I am most familiar with because of Transformers
I personally think of an s30, but I might be a bit biased.
U mean the original 280Z I think
@@ahighervibe4086 i dunno, i just picked the first result for datsun transformer,
I actually cant believe you got a 200ZS on the show.
I have a ZG that is identical down here in AUS and I have always wanted to know what ol' RCR's opinion would be.
Im pretty sure ive never seen another 200z on youtube aside from my own.
I understand that other peoples opinions are not the point, but i feel validated by this review. A refreshing take compared to the 'WhEn ArE yOu GoNnA RB iT' bullshit i usually cop.
This makes me a very proud owner
Damn Roman, that was an excellent ending. I missed your songs at the end of videos.
Never thought you would review a z31
I just picked up a z31 300zx as a project car a couple weekends ago so this was kinda neat to see
I love the look of this generation of Z cars, it's like someone drew a 240 with only vectors
Congrats on coming out Mr R
Finally, I catch one of these early morning uploads.
Thank you simpli safe. Please give them more money.
Silly question here:
When you say "Midnight Club wish fulfillment", you're talking about the aura over the racing group (neon lights, VHS tapes and skyscrapers), or the videogame which is loosely based on it (drum and bass with flashy magazines from 2000s tuner culture)? Maybe you meant both, but I think that some people got confused just like me.
I think he might've meant Wangan Midnight, the 300km/h highway racing sister series to Initial D.
Fun fact.
In Serbia, we have same tax per displacement law.
Lowest bracket is under 1150cc, because Yugo was 1148. Next is up 1300, 1500, 1800, 2000 and over 2000. If you have car with engine over 2000cc, tax goes form 300$ per year, to 800$ per year. Next is over 3000cc, which is more than 1500, and over that I have no idea.
My grandfather lives in Austria and has 2200cc Renault Espace. For him, it is impossible to find a mechanic in Serbia who knows this engine, yet alone parts. It is easier to find parts for Ferrari or 5.0 Mustang, than 2.2L. Because you are either normal, and drive under 2000cc, or very rich and can afford a car over 2L. And then, you will not buy 2.2, but at least 3.5L V6.
The Z31 model that I’ve always listed after is a Kouki Model 200ZR; the last of the inline 6 Z cars. I’ve loved the Z31 ever since one of my buddies had an N/A 2+2 model that we used to bomb around town in while blasting Dragonforce. It only had 160hp, but to a couple of young 20-somethings in the mid 2000’s, it was unadulterated fun with t-tops
I thought Ive seen all the Z's wow
My first thought before reading any comments was thats a damn camaro
Bruh… the cat/garage side… perfect
Honestly you make ads fun and make me want to learn more.
One of my coworkers in the 90's had one of these z cars. That was a very fun car...