Which Method is Best? Cloud Server Setups Compared

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    0:00 Introduction
    1:32 Visual comparison
    3:04 HestiaCP
    4:28 aaPanel
    5:57 Plesk (Free Version)
    8:19 Cloudways
    10:00 Cyberpanel
    11:44 Webinoly
    13:02 WordOps
    13:59 Conclusions
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  • @ammarr.442
    @ammarr.442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Comparison. Cleared manyy confusions I had after seeing all your videos at once.
    Keep producing these kinds of content, it's a gem for new-to-mid users like me..

  • @johnravi3887
    @johnravi3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alex,
    It was a great video! I think this is one of the most confusing topics for many people, and I really loved how you addressed it. I think you did a great job with this video. I gained a lot of information that will definitely help me make a better choice. I will definitely be checking these options out, and will also share this video with my friends to help them with this. Thanks a lot for sharing this, it was a great video, and will definitely help many people get a great setup.

  • @nicothefreelancer
    @nicothefreelancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant wait for the updated plesk tutorial. thanks for the vids!

  • @rachellee33
    @rachellee33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just what I was looking for... thank you!

  • @leodefaveri9850
    @leodefaveri9850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Alex! A great comparison! I also decided to use Plesk after using Cyberpanel for a while. Despite being actually better in performance, I had some issues that I needed more in-depth knowledge of Linux and I don't have. Support for Cyberpanel is very limited to a community where few are still willing to help newbies.Plesk is much more secure in my opinion and the automatic updates are very reliable. I look forward to your updated Plesk video and would like you to talk more about the differences in CGI caching, FastCGI, etc. Thank you so much for the great content!

  • @patrickferrell5309
    @patrickferrell5309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've used hestia panel, a very good web panel for CMS like WP, it's pretty new to me but stable.

  • @vnet8678
    @vnet8678 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned about Hestia is correct , Very good ,

  • @aclaro8028
    @aclaro8028 ปีที่แล้ว

    WordOps is incredible if you know what you're doing. Absolutely amazing LEMP stack.

  • @ltonchis1245
    @ltonchis1245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review, I have been comparing multiple WordPress Control Panels and so far HestiaCP has been really active in development with over 10k commits

  • @PswACC
    @PswACC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tried Cyberpanel but couldn't get the thing to genereate a Let's Encrypt SSL. The system only provided self-signed ssl and when running the ssl request manually through the terminal, you reach your daily limit.

  • @MdMozammelHossain
    @MdMozammelHossain ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, can you suggest me which panel is available for hosting a site only for office internal network ?

  • @dbizi440
    @dbizi440 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey I know it's a bit older video but I don't see Virtualmin here along the other free panels, have you ever tried it?

  • @brankopereira2991
    @brankopereira2991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been looking for this video all afternoon, you’ve got it all, the tutorials, this video that actually explains what the tutorials are about and the teaching energy I’ve needed to feel in order not to leave the video at the beginning, great channel! Subscribing rn

  • @peterwilliams5522
    @peterwilliams5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Axel thanks for sharing your knowledge on how to access the free stuff :)

  • @Danielsingapore
    @Danielsingapore ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice comparision. What's your view on Fastpanel?

  • @oliverosswald
    @oliverosswald ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Plesk on a Contabo VPS and now Hestia on Oracle free tier as well. Both work very well for me. I started to install the Oracle solution for my clients, because it works really well. Thanks for your tutorials, big help and big time-saver!

    • @bambanx
      @bambanx ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean using oracle for server?

    • @-Joshy
      @-Joshy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is Contabo any Good?

    • @oliverosswald
      @oliverosswald 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-Joshy I still have two VPS running at Contabo and I still think they offer a very good price-performance ratio. But I did not compare current daily prices on the market.

  • @educationforeveryone214
    @educationforeveryone214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks you so much, Sir.

  • @alexio6205
    @alexio6205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think you can do a tutorial on directadmin panel? The free panels are good but maybe it's better to go for a safer choice that is cheap. I'd love to see an installation/review on it.
    Keep up the good work! :)

  • @AatmanirbharInternet
    @AatmanirbharInternet ปีที่แล้ว

    Which panel is best for high availability and load balancing

  • @bestofweb1011
    @bestofweb1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Alex, great video as always thank you, I'm using docker and Nginx proxy manager and Portainer as GUI interface on Oracle always ARM free tier. I love seeing you making a video about docker it is very good solution.

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s a nice setup! sounds like you should be making the videos 😅

    • @Cinefilweddingfilms
      @Cinefilweddingfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Oh yes! I would also love to see this! Or maybe Hestia as control panel and docker for Redis and uptime Kuma.

    • @craigsims808
      @craigsims808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why docker?

  • @w3wesalex3617
    @w3wesalex3617 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brother is it possible to do File Sharing Between two Server, i mean i have two VPS, in two diffrent countries, so i want to Control File Sharing from One Server,
    if i do one side, then it can do both sides.... is there any way ??

  • @MRHAAMOO
    @MRHAAMOO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video, i really need this video.

  • @megatron4248
    @megatron4248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello dear, what is a good option for a large website?

  • @danielcordner2039
    @danielcordner2039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I say Hestia. It is not too complex and compared to aaPanel the setup was easy. With WordPress Hestia handles the permalinks without any additional settings changes. With aaPanel there is a setting you need to activate to manage the permalinks config. I have a bias towards the RPM-based Linux distro like CentOS, Oracle, Rocky and Suse. Hestia is only on the Deb distro but nothing to lose sleep over. Thanks for all your excellent work and for bringing this info to the community.

    • @craigsims808
      @craigsims808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah CentOS is very good for production servers

  • @vishalchauhan5306
    @vishalchauhan5306 ปีที่แล้ว

    Directadmin vs cyberpanel which to chose i can pay for license but is it worth? Help me

  • @tecnopadre
    @tecnopadre ปีที่แล้ว

    Once you add more than 3 domains to Plesk, the price raises towards close to Adminitrated Hosting Solutions (as far as I know them), so the next solution in my opinion would be Hestia. Is this correct?

  • @SocialIPO
    @SocialIPO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Is paying for C Panel such a bad idea? Reviews stop at one install !! What’s best for many Wordpress sites on one server? THANKS

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cpanel is fine if you’re already using it and the time/risk involved in switching is maybe not worth it - but it’s not good value if you were building something new 👍

  • @allitlimited
    @allitlimited 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which one is you recommend for a free web panel? Please reply to me. Thanks

  • @azrulnaqeeb
    @azrulnaqeeb ปีที่แล้ว

    What about fastpanel? I need your review on this thanks. love your video man

  • @andreas_tech
    @andreas_tech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, if i have error code 504, server not able to load the page,
    what shall i do then?
    I have google cloud + hestiaCP

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!

  • @gorilarevoltado9837
    @gorilarevoltado9837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job.

  • @ddrci88
    @ddrci88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a pmta setup on Ubuntu and roundcube mail ?

  • @robertzoufood
    @robertzoufood ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesn't Virtualmin (a fully featured panel with a ton of features) support Arm?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  ปีที่แล้ว

      www.virtualmin.com/documentation/os-support/

  • @brunourmalmiranda
    @brunourmalmiranda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great ideia, excellent video. I see here with lots of hours testing and testing to get this level off simplicity! Thanks a lot!
    For Oracle AMP, didn't tested the Hestia but I will. I'm using the Webnoly because it's really simple for a developer. 🙌🙏🌟

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the feedback 👍 and very good choice with webinoly ✅

    • @wmafendi
      @wmafendi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am a fan of Webinloy too

  • @al3anqae
    @al3anqae 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why Aapanel doesn't work on Oracle Ubuntu ?

  • @appravo
    @appravo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you missed a few points on aapanel
    - free and auto renewing SSL
    - anti XSS option
    - many security settings for both the panel and websites
    besides that, seems good, might check out a command line host

  • @al3anqae
    @al3anqae 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do how to install ''Ffmpeg'' on Oracle Linux ? Please ?

  • @patrickferrell5309
    @patrickferrell5309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BTW, can you make this work. Zoho mail + Sendinblue e-mail marketing with Wordpress, (Zoho instead of Hestia's built-in web mail service)? Please make a tutorial for that if you can make it possible. Kudos to your great content. Keep it up sir!

  • @garrettstevensen2467
    @garrettstevensen2467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Alex... Please don't forget about Digital Ocean's new premium tier... according to many benchmarks on TH-cam and Cloudway's own blog, they benchmarked greater performance than Vultr HF. It's not night and day, but it *IS* newer/faster.

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve done videos on testing that already - but vultr Hf is still better - Tony’s testing preferred Vultr HF too… we put more work into it than cloudways blog 😅

    • @garrettstevensen2467
      @garrettstevensen2467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Interesting. I did not know this. Can you elaborate more? I have already watched the video... I live in California, so I wonder if the speed is based on location?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes somewhat, it probably accounts for the ~10-20ms differences we see often - it seems like most bloggers/vloggers generally are looking at page load on a test site and some load testing like loader.io - these results are always pretty similar and can often be more related to the network conditions between the host and tester. Not many people actually dig in and actually benchmark the hardware on your server which will be the real key when running an application under high stress, but doing that its pretty clear to me that Vultr HF is higher end hardware, there is one engineer who really does a good job - Joshtronic: joshtronic.com/2021/04/04/6-vps-showdown-digitalocean-vultr also VPS benchmarks goes into some more depth: www.vpsbenchmarks.com/best_vps/2022/under/10

    • @garrettstevensen2467
      @garrettstevensen2467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Solid Gold! Your channel aligns with everything I am trying to do in my current career. If you were local, I would buy you a beer! Thank you!

  • @tjmarx
    @tjmarx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be nice to see a show down between Cyberpanel with it's paid addon stack and CWPPro (formerly CentOS Panel)

  • @omkarpatel1634
    @omkarpatel1634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we create multiple VPS on Oracle? Can we create VPS in different regions?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes multiple VPS, but only 1 region per account - the US ones seem to have more capacity so probably go with one of those if possible.

  • @AadityaSharmas
    @AadityaSharmas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used 1st time cyber panel in AWS, ftp create issue to connect in it. Soon will use Hestia in Oracle using your video tutorial 😛👍

  • @IndiaTodayVlogs
    @IndiaTodayVlogs 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice ❤🎉❤

  • @MustafaSheikh
    @MustafaSheikh ปีที่แล้ว

    thoughts on webuso ?

  • @_Trakman
    @_Trakman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're on fire lately man.
    Oracle Sydney still doesn't have storage 😭 (was wanting the 4CPU/24GB RAM)

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just use another card+phone and set up in ashburn or phoenix 😅

    • @_Trakman
      @_Trakman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot might go ahead and hope I can "resized the droplet" in the future

  • @parthamjangir7311
    @parthamjangir7311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro Please make video aapanel docker module deployment any opensource app like rocketchat or matrix or mattermost or any other as wish

  • @michaeloneil6781
    @michaeloneil6781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about setting up CapRover on Oracle Ampere and/or Contabo? I understand if you're getting tired of these types of videos, but I still think it would be extremely helpful. CapRover comes with so many one-click-install apps I can't find on Yunohost and other PaaS software. Anyway, keep up the good work.

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im never tired of spinning up new servers 💪

    • @michaeloneil6781
      @michaeloneil6781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot You're seriously awesome. I just realized I wasn't subscribed so I corrected that mistake.

  • @jayalyadav
    @jayalyadav ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about virtualmin?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn’t like it at first, have you tried it? Maybe I should have another look

    • @jayalyadav
      @jayalyadav ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot I just started to use it and till now it is looking very powerful. I have not used cyberpanel or others shown in this video so I would definitely appreciate someone like you who has expertise on other panels can actually compare them with virtualmin in a future video.

  • @bambanx
    @bambanx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cloudpanel is free and solid

  • @justgame7040
    @justgame7040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one is the lightest?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  ปีที่แล้ว

      webinoly I think

  • @todij
    @todij ปีที่แล้ว

    @ideaSpot, I think you should consider making a video about CLOUDPANEL and CWP (Control Web Panel: formerly CentOS Web Panel) I didn't try but I think the cloudpanel will work with ORACLE FREE TIERS ARM, if anyone tested please comment!

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  ปีที่แล้ว

      I wanna try it too but it’s out of capacity 😂😂

  • @apunisher
    @apunisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cyberpanel free is there a limit? cpu ram or host

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No limits, but can’t be installed on ampere, only amd or intel

    • @apunisher
      @apunisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot very helpfull thank you

  • @vishalkanade4445
    @vishalkanade4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oneclick wordpress install is available now on aaPanel

  • @wiredgorilla
    @wiredgorilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about WEBMIN?

  • @rajkuwajerwala
    @rajkuwajerwala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    plz make video "how to install whm/cpanel on oracle free tier"

  • @x_max4064
    @x_max4064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I'm tired of trying the cards so much, and finally they're rejected. I don't know what this bad luck is. Do you have a solution?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im not sure, mine were working ok but I think some banks/countries have trouble - check what the oracle support says?

    • @x_max4064
      @x_max4064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot
      I talked to the bank and there is no problem with the card and when I talk to my support oracle in any problem their only answer is that we can't solve any problem

  • @TeckFlyer
    @TeckFlyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE!!! TUTORIAL COMPLETE OF CWP 7 Is incredible but complicarse, full tutorial instalation, configuration AND wordpress ready pleaseeeeeee!!!!

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it looks awesome and complex 😆 I’ll think about it!

  • @thangjamkishorchand
    @thangjamkishorchand 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Runcloud, Gridpane?

    • @jadens9569
      @jadens9569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are 💩

  • @vinodkp2659
    @vinodkp2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about vestacp?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think hestia is based on vesta, but I hear that hestia has more active dev these days

  • @apradiptaa_
    @apradiptaa_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wordops on fire

  • @WOnken
    @WOnken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison . CPs are not so often compared like this. I think what many would like to see is a HowTo on Hestia on Oracle Free Tier, running NextCloud...

  • @amazingday7637
    @amazingday7637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm the 90th like ❤️✌️

  • @Lucaat
    @Lucaat ปีที่แล้ว

    I stick to Virtualmin, very complete and mature

  • @alexiscampero8515
    @alexiscampero8515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should test server avatar

  • @JhonatanPryce
    @JhonatanPryce ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, see fastpanel please.

  • @mecrayavcin
    @mecrayavcin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't use any panel. I have LEMP server (Debian 11 + Nginx + MariaDB + PHP + Fastcgi Cache + Cloudflare)
    Sites work great. it is also free and the fastest method.

    • @WreeperXD
      @WreeperXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but i doubt that people here know bash

    • @WreeperXD
      @WreeperXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Btw, i'd recommend that you start using Ubuntu - it is better than Debian in most cases (the only plausible excuse you can have to use debian is if your server has under 1GB ram)

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅 th-cam.com/video/nUsDk8wjRPs/w-d-xo.html

    • @craigsims808
      @craigsims808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mecra how do you handle security?
      Nice set up by the way

    • @mecrayavcin
      @mecrayavcin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craigsims808 By cloudflare. By this set up you can handle too much traffic at the same time. because you have two cache method. Wordpress is too secure too. I had no problems so far.

  • @anshujha1664
    @anshujha1664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plesk is very easy to use panel but it's not free tho

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its free when you use a server from vultr, digital ocean and aws and alibaba

    • @lachlanblack3712
      @lachlanblack3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Thanks and congrats on another great upload. One question, with free plesk on vultr, is that a limit of 3 domains per server or 3 domains total per vultr account?

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Three per server, i know people are running many domains using multiple servers 😅

    • @lachlanblack3712
      @lachlanblack3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Nice! That's a pretty sweet deal. Thanks for the info Alex :)

  • @user-bg2jr8th3q
    @user-bg2jr8th3q ปีที่แล้ว

    AAPanel is the best which is not covered in your video.

  • @criostasis
    @criostasis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hestia has had so many issues the past year i gave up on it

    • @jadens9569
      @jadens9569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you expand on that and explain what issues you've encountered?

  • @RezaulKarimArif
    @RezaulKarimArif 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloudways is very buggy to be honest and not that lightweight..... u should try cloudpages or runcloud. Both are great.

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what are the bugs? I didn't notice anything testing it

    • @graceleetay
      @graceleetay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot Agree with you that Cloudways is not buggy. Having tried them for a couple of years, they are stable. Appreciate your roundup!

    • @_Trakman
      @_Trakman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cloudways NOT buggy for me either

    • @RezaulKarimArif
      @RezaulKarimArif 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IdeaSpot It takes time to load the UI most go the time, sometimes creating a new server takes ages.
      Also most importantly no Litespeed support yet
      My managed server journey began with Cloudways 2-3 years back. Last year I stopped using it since I discovered cloudpages and runcloud. So much better and more features. Just give it a try :)
      Cloudpages is fairly new though..same guys who made cyberpanel

    • @IdeaSpot
      @IdeaSpot  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, it’s always possible for something to break - when there are so many uses/plugins combinations possible - so it’s worth knowing what to look out for.

  • @vincentchen2938
    @vincentchen2938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First! lol

  • @Flavius-Tech
    @Flavius-Tech ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF ? You did not included the best of them all? Virtualmin+Webmin, it is the most versatile and robust platform you would ever have for free. I have also Opencart websites, not every site is wordpress!

  • @Kalicall
    @Kalicall ปีที่แล้ว

    based your experiance witch one the best ( performance ) for wordpress websites @ selfhosting VPS // i have long term with aapanel, its good but last months somthing wrrong with connection not only me hug of ppl like me, we looking for best performance ( ng