Very interesting as Shore and Eggleston are two of my favorite photographers. I think that their aesthetics and reasons for taking pictures are more similar than either would care to admit.
Thanks for sharing :) really happy I found your videos! Just ordered my first Eggleston book. Also, just got a copy of Color Correction by Ernst Hass from the library. Would love to see a video on Hass :) Thanks again!
Glad you’re here! Which Eggleston book did you get? I got Mystery of the Ordinary a few months back and I love it! Steidl has a 10 volume set of The Democratic Forest that’s I’d love to get my hands on. It’s like $700. 😅 I just started reading more about Haas. I’ve known his photos for a while but not his story. Will definitely post on him in the near future.
Hey brother :) I got mystery of the Ordinary as well. I remember unknowingly walking in to a Eggleston exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum in New York six years ago being blown away. I didn't realize it was Eggleston's work until I learned about him in 2023. Books can get really expensive. Rediscovering the library has allowed me to flip through books I've been wanting to see for years and couldn't afford. Highly recommend checking out the local library. I've been able to take out books I can't afford to buy. The library system rocks @ZACHDOBSONPHOTO
I recently did a deep dive into William Eggleston and this video must have come up as a result. Before watching, I had only seen Stephen Shore’s stuff here and there. These photographers who take photos in a manner that captures the everyday like this are really appealing to me. Cool video and nice intro for me into Stephen Shore.
Glad you liked it! I highly recommend seeing Shore’s book Uncommon Places in person if possible. Once I saw how highly detailed those large format images are, it really increased how much I like them!
I find that the difference between Eggleston and Shore is very much the same as between Winogrand and Friedlander, one spontaneous, the other deliberate. There is also some expressionist way of capturing emotions and moods in Eggleston's work, which makes it poetic at times. Some of his photographs are sublime, others are perfectly boring and could be discarded. That lack of consistency can be seen at the last publication, The Outlands, made by his son: peaks and troughs, but the peaks are exceptional. With Shore's work, the image is built: everything is there for a reason, to achieve an impression. I believe the quality is more consistent, although there are still images in Uncommon Places that probably wouldn't make a difference if taken out. I also believe that Stephen Shore, in some of his small town images, achieves the same level of poetry and despair that one can see in Eggleston's best photographs.
"Perfectly banal perhaps." God bless critics. "Consciously casual" is really helpful, too. I've been thinking a lot about what I want out of my photography work, and oddly, it's by exploring some of the oddballs that I'm starting to find it. Muriyama - "I want to take a lot of nasty photos." "The camera doesn't matter." With Shore, I like when he talks about about how he composed. Eggleston moves made me think of how people say Winogrand is more like an athlete holding a camera. This was great. Learned and thought about a lot.
Great video, thank you. It looks to me like Eggleston uses something like a 35mm lens most of the time. Wondering if you or anyone else could comment on his lens choice. Many thanks
Nice review of these two photographers who's images I have enjoyed. I love that quote from Walker Evans and I still believe that color photography is vulgar, especially with digital photography.
I think you are spot on in your assessment. I love both their work but Eggleston is an utter genius as he is so free. In musical terms, I equate them to Clapton (Shore) and Hendrix (Eggleston).
Awesome video.. interesting that Eggleston didn’t have any real desire to explain when or where. Amazing photos!! Some truly banal and others just seemingly so from Shore.. but then also from both.. 😅
great review, I see Eggleston as a Southern photographer who chose to photograph things in and of the south. I see Shore as a travel photographer. Most of his works especially from Common Places being taken while on multiple road trips. Also let's not forget A lot of Shores work was taken with Large format cameras whereas most of Eggleston's work was shot with 35mm and sometimes medium format.
My God! I didn't expect Eggleston to be such a slob when it comes to everything around the photo. His compositions are exquisit. One would expect there to be more than "I felt like it" to it. But then, it could also be an artistic persona to keep up the mystery so people don't get too close up with his specific method?
Very interesting as Shore and Eggleston are two of my favorite photographers. I think that their aesthetics and reasons for taking pictures are more similar than either would care to admit.
Yes! They’re both observationists at the core. To me, anyways!
Thanks for sharing :) really happy I found your videos! Just ordered my first Eggleston book. Also, just got a copy of Color Correction by Ernst Hass from the library. Would love to see a video on Hass :)
Thanks again!
Glad you’re here! Which Eggleston book did you get? I got Mystery of the Ordinary a few months back and I love it! Steidl has a 10 volume set of The Democratic Forest that’s I’d love to get my hands on. It’s like $700. 😅
I just started reading more about Haas. I’ve known his photos for a while but not his story. Will definitely post on him in the near future.
Hey brother :) I got mystery of the Ordinary as well. I remember unknowingly walking in to a Eggleston exhibition at the Metropolitan Museum in New York six years ago being blown away. I didn't realize it was Eggleston's work until I learned about him in 2023. Books can get really expensive. Rediscovering the library has allowed me to flip through books I've been wanting to see for years and couldn't afford. Highly recommend checking out the local library. I've been able to take out books I can't afford to buy. The library system rocks @ZACHDOBSONPHOTO
Interesting comparison, thanks!
Thanks! It’s fascinating to me that they’re so similar in subject matter but such different people.
Fascinating as always, thanks Zach!
I recently did a deep dive into William Eggleston and this video must have come up as a result. Before watching, I had only seen Stephen Shore’s stuff here and there. These photographers who take photos in a manner that captures the everyday like this are really appealing to me. Cool video and nice intro for me into Stephen Shore.
Glad you liked it! I highly recommend seeing Shore’s book Uncommon Places in person if possible. Once I saw how highly detailed those large format images are, it really increased how much I like them!
I find that the difference between Eggleston and Shore is very much the same as between Winogrand and Friedlander, one spontaneous, the other deliberate. There is also some expressionist way of capturing emotions and moods in Eggleston's work, which makes it poetic at times. Some of his photographs are sublime, others are perfectly boring and could be discarded. That lack of consistency can be seen at the last publication, The Outlands, made by his son: peaks and troughs, but the peaks are exceptional. With Shore's work, the image is built: everything is there for a reason, to achieve an impression. I believe the quality is more consistent, although there are still images in Uncommon Places that probably wouldn't make a difference if taken out. I also believe that Stephen Shore, in some of his small town images, achieves the same level of poetry and despair that one can see in Eggleston's best photographs.
thanks for sharing, both wonderful photographers that i love.
Thanks for watching! ✌️📷
"Perfectly banal perhaps." God bless critics.
"Consciously casual" is really helpful, too. I've been thinking a lot about what I want out of my photography work, and oddly, it's by exploring some of the oddballs that I'm starting to find it.
Muriyama - "I want to take a lot of nasty photos." "The camera doesn't matter."
With Shore, I like when he talks about about how he composed. Eggleston moves made me think of how people say Winogrand is more like an athlete holding a camera.
This was great. Learned and thought about a lot.
Great video, thank you. It looks to me like Eggleston uses something like a 35mm lens most of the time. Wondering if you or anyone else could comment on his lens choice. Many thanks
Nice review of these two photographers who's images I have enjoyed. I love that quote from Walker Evans and I still believe that color photography is vulgar, especially with digital photography.
I think you are spot on in your assessment. I love both their work but Eggleston is an utter genius as he is so free. In musical terms, I equate them to Clapton (Shore) and Hendrix (Eggleston).
I'm enjoying your commentary
Thanks! So glad to hear that. Happy to have some people who want to talk about photography with me ✌️📷
Awesome video.. interesting that Eggleston didn’t have any real desire to explain when or where. Amazing photos!! Some truly banal and others just seemingly so from Shore.. but then also from both.. 😅
Glad you enjoyed it! I had fun looking for similarities and differences between them
loved the comparisons including the book design ie impact of captions and no,captions on the page. thank you.
I loved this! Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
" There are as many paths to god as there are souls on Earth " said Rumi, the 13th century Persian poet and philospher. I can't add any more to that.
Which focal lengths did William Eggleston use?
I think mostly 50mm. Possibly sometimes 35mm
@@ZACHDOBSONPHOTO not 21mm or 28mm?
@@gurugamer8632 no, and he only uses leica m3, he has a large collection of leica m3s lol
great review, I see Eggleston as a Southern photographer who chose to photograph things in and of the south. I see Shore as a travel photographer. Most of his works especially from Common Places being taken while on multiple road trips. Also let's not forget A lot of Shores work was taken with Large format cameras whereas most of Eggleston's work was shot with 35mm and sometimes medium format.
My God! I didn't expect Eggleston to be such a slob when it comes to everything around the photo. His compositions are exquisit. One would expect there to be more than "I felt like it" to it.
But then, it could also be an artistic persona to keep up the mystery so people don't get too close up with his specific method?
When someone is talked about enough, they become famous.
Kinda the definition right? 😅
Ahhh...Eggleston...the patron saint of clueless photographers...maybe grandmas brownie pictures were great after all!!!
yeah if it's not a beautiful portrait or sunset its tough to fathom