Couldn't agree more, mate! Lifetime metalhead here and there's nothing better than knowing that there are more and more people opening up to dirty vocals! When they find out it's not just about being angry and all that. It takes an ASTOUNDING amount of talent to do the things Will (And so many other harsh vocalists) does
The fact that you mention his vocals being not vocals, but another instrument is so refreshing to hear from a vocal coach perspective. That's exactly what I tell people who say they aren't singing or that they can't understand what they are saying. That's essentially what that vocal style is. Another instrument in an arrangement. Not necessarily to be understood, but to be experienced. LOVE this analysis 🤘😝
This genre has never been more strong. It’s in great hands going forward and it’s nice to see it get attention. So many great vocalists and band members.
It's weirdly fun seeing someone with a classical background really getting metal. You seem to fly right through the abrasive harshness of it all, perhaps there is a true metalhead deep down there all along. Will is really one of a kind.
There are many similarities. Beethoven would a metalhead if he lived today. I remember a Norwegian documentary from the late nineties about black metal and a classical composer who was interviewed said the same thing. Well, that's where I got it from really. Haha.
Mann the band is cool heavy vibe makes your head Bob n weave, makes your body hard n bounce..... music or sounds for me........boy vocally hard work hahahaha
Believe it or not but us metalheads are very versatile when it comes to music and many of us like and or appreciate classical music, that is why their is an entire sub-genre symphonic metal
If you enjoyed this, you'll be absolutely blown away by the one takes. It's impressive to do this in separate takes, let alone the one takes and live performances he does
It's really cool that you were able to immediately appreciate the musicality of their music! One thing I don't see many vocal coaches mention about Will's vocals is the *huge* amount of breath support he has to generate to create the projection and sustain he can have in his low screams/growls, which are done with the true folds held open. I'll also echo others recommending you react to some of Will's one take vocal performances. They show what he does even better than the music videos.
I think what's special about Will is the breath control and how quickly he switches between the sounds he makes, I've heard most of them elsewhere as I'm kinda familiar with subgenres of extreme metal, but I've never heard someone who can swap between them all so quickly. Hell, I can make probably 60% of the noises he does and sing along in the car, the problem is as you say, the breath, on a held scream I'm running out 2-3 seconds before him
Several folks are recommending Will's one-take vocal playthroughs, and these are indeed amazing. They also have Will's voice right at the front of the mix, so it's easier to hear everything he's doing. However, I would like to recommend some other Lorna Shore music. First, for sheer energy, I'd recommend Sun//Eater. Also, Lorna Shore have written a ballad: Pain Remains. It's in three parts, but the videos are clearly labelled. Also, shout-out to Austin Archey on the drums. He is, I've been told, a living, breathing human being. But he has the rhythmic sense of a metronomic robot. The speed and precision of his double-kick work is just amazing.
That layered growl is sometimes referred to as a "double harmonic". You layer it a little like you do with overtone singing but you are adding a guttural distortion instead of the hum that is used iin most cases. So all your diction comes from the clean layer and the distortion sort of frames the diction. That way you don't lose the lyrics in the "mud" that you hear in other metal styles. Alex Terrible is fucking amazing at the double harmonic. To achieve that goblin scream it actually really helps if you can do an imitation of gollum, because then all you have to do is add the fry because your tongue and mouth positions are already set and a lot of the "high" sound comes from the smeagol voice.
@@TheVocalyst It's actually kind of amazing what you can do vocally if you can imitate other vocal speech patterns. For example if you add a subharmonic and slightly alter the Gollum voice, you can achieve a pretty good approximation of a stereotypical robot voice.
Dickie def mastered that goblin voice 😉 I heard Wills biggest inspiration is Infant Annihilator so it makes sense he sounds pretty similar when it comes to highs and you can hear it in Into The Earth. Dickies biggest inspo is Travis from Cattle Decap which is a huge influence on deathcore which all stems down to the newest bands and yet all their voices are so unique.
@@2174863 Absolutely, much as I love Will and think he is doing amazing things, Dickie was doing it first and, not to remove any of the incredible skill Will has, but Dickie does it better, just by the sheer amount of experience he has had. Why Lorna Shore has blown up so much is probably because we've moved beyond "metal vocals are just noise." Before Dickie you have Travis, so on and so forth but at that time you had a lot of the left over aspects of the satanic panic and metal is just noise that didn't really allow them the space to go as, comparatively, big. As prevailing opinions change about metal we see break outs. Will is the goblin prince to Dickie's goblin king. The fact that people are viewing harsh vocals in a new light, means there is nuance there and channels like this one and Charismatic Voice and Kardavox are really bringing styles of music into a lime light that it hasn't operated in before. There are "harsh vocal" metal bands that don't get any of the credit they have deserved. This is kind of a golden age of metal where audiences and media are all cross connecting and appreciation of metal has never been to the degree I find it is today.
Lorna shore is blowing up because the music is more relatable to more new listeners and wills personality. Lorna shore has always been a great band. Add a great front man and more symphonic elements you start getting the ingredients for success. Not to mention to the hellfire came out at a time when most people were at home looking for rabbit holes. I listen to deathcore a ton and find it hard to listen to infant. Find it to chaotic. Bands like worm shepherd/ Lorna ect have mastered the blackened sound and made it easy to listen to
I have been listening and playing metal since I was a kid, about 20yrs now and this song is the single most unbelievably dirty, brutal vocals I have ever heard. The timing of the beat during the breakdown and other odd timings is really the cherry on top
Wonderful reaction, Bethany. Will is such a creative vocalist, and wonderful human being. Thank you for commenting on the music, it is the perfect foil for Will's vocals. Lorna Shore coming together is just finally getting the right people together. They are creating magic. Definitely check out Will's one-takes, they are just incredible, and the camera is focused on him the whole time. Musically, check out the Pain Remains trilogy, it will show the full breadth of the bands musical talent. I have tickets to see Lorna in the spring, can't wait.
I was one of those who recommended you to react to Lorna Shore and specifically to Will Ramos, I love that you have react to this song, but, for a vocal coach, I think the one-take version was much better, but all good, you have the opportunity to react to another of the videos on Will's channel where he does those versions hehehehehe. Greetings from Santiago de Chile!
That ending gets everyone. Lol. Another metal vocalist who has incredible control of her voice is Courtney Laplante of Spiritbox. If you watch her live one takes or the 17 minute video that is their live studio performance of The Mara Effect (3 seperate songs and an interlude), you’ll see she has next to no strain on her voice.
I'm 27 and have been listening to all kinds of metal since I was about 12/13 years old and I have to say that even after all the time this song has been out, it one of the best metal songs I've experienced in my little life. God damn, it's good. Great reaction as well. Kudos to the band as well for this masterpiece. Will is a god
Romantic melody :) Lyrics: MY FINAL BREATH! SWALLOWED BY THE WOMB OF DEATH! XD Welcome to death metal! Glad to have ya! We're just a bunch of silly geese that get our anger and sadness out through music. :)
You should watch his one take play throughs, he covered Chokehold by Sleep Token recently and it's absolutely stunning, his cleans are just as amazing as his harsh vocals. He's definitely a unicorn among musicians.
The musicians in Lorna Shore have achieved the kind of precision and tightness that elevate a group above its contemporaries. Add to that their strong sense of melody and Will Ramos's stunning range of growls, screams, bleats, and squeals, and you have possibly the premiere deathcore ensemble working today. I loved your commentary, Beth! Keep up the variety on the channel...without forgetting about Angelina Jordan, of course. :) Another band that weaves strong melodies into their aggressive sound is Arch Enemy. Let me link you their live Tokyo performance of their song Nemesis, with former vocalist Angela Gossow: th-cam.com/video/fS-YHJbmAXs/w-d-xo.html
The one take vocal performance would've been 10x more interesting since here his vocals are kinda drowned in the mix but hey...maybe you can react to that too :D
I am also stunned. That a lady that looks like a musical singer would not only analyze but even like such bizarre, unholy music lol. And I'm saying that as somebody who likes heavy metal 😆
You ever listen to a band/record that just sticks out in your mind because of how little you remember it, even though you've listened to it several times? That's what this band and album is like. It's bloody boring.
Will was the missing piece the band needed. He took the band to an entirely new game and they’ve already beaten the game. I have listened to this ep every single day since it came out. I am still just as excited listening to it now as I was the forest time
Please, more reactions to the queen of goosebumps, Diana Ankudinova, here you will be truly stunned, no, defeated. The song "River" Rechenka), performed by Diana at the age of 14 on the You Super project, is an unsurpassed work of the master.Recently, Diana performed this most difficult song without music - acapela.
Will is the best vocalist currently in this genre. He is an animal and so creative at how he uses his voice. To me this is just as beautiful as an opera singer. The level of skill and talent is as equally difficult to master. Same for the band. Each is at expert level with their instruments. It's awe inspiring.
My cold sadistic heart glows up seeing people react to the pig squeal of Will, defo when it's people who are hearing it for the first time. It's amazing how one guy came in and took over the entire musical world with brute, unhuman force and introduced musical " virgins " to deathcore in a way no other vocalist could ever do before. He might not be the best out there ( i am not hating on him ) but he sure as hell cemented deathcore into the mainstream without selling out the music style like so many other metal vocalists did before.
Another band you should check out is Archspire they are amazing. They have vocal play through of a couple of their songs and ARCHSPIRE "Lucid Collective Somnambulation" Vocal is so cool. Please react to them and thanks.
I'm an old metal head but the only new bands doing it for me are Lorna Shore and Archspire. Vocally they're pushing it forward, and also have good hooks.
you should do the album opener, Welcome Back O Sleeping Dreamer, you know about notes right? would love to know how big his vocal drop is from the solo into that breakdown after, that is absolute insanity.... possibly the biggest vocal drop in music history.
Will is amazing. I'm not into death core, but I admire the talent. Please check out some of his one take vocal performances plus his vocal cover of Hypnosis by Sleep Token.
Your take around rhe 3:30 mark is really interesting to me. When I listen to this song, it brings the same emotional feeling to me, that the first movement of moonlight sonata gives (me at least). A desolate field littered with corpses from a war being waged. Kind of like if the battle of helms deep was illuminated by only the moon, on a clear dark night. I'll reiterate what people are saying. You need to check out Will's one takes. The album tracks have a lot of layered screams of mixed highs and lows, and having his vocals basically isolated is REALLY amazing to watch
so you did it finally, Will is a true unicorn of extreme vocals, on his one take he is BETTER and much more cleanly understandible, so you should really go for that one :)
The One Take versions Will has put out on his channel have the vocals more dominant than the instruments which from a vocal analysis might be more useful also they have better lighting and camera angle so it is easier to see Will's body posture and throat/face positions. Plus he has one where he sings clean covering Sleep Token.
Its funny, I've heard growls and screams in tunes for years, I think the earliest memory of such would be King Diamond, but it took Will doing 'softer' music for me to really fall in and give it a proper listen ... and I can't say it's something I'd listen to on a daily basis but I find that I'm much more inclined to enjoy it.
Regarding 9:50 the "2 voices at once": Im not sure if that is a technique or not, but the singer of the band Gojira does something similar. While he is screaming, there is some actual "singing" in it aswell. Its a very unique voice
This video was my first exposure to Lorna Shore, and Will Ramos, a while back. It showed me that there is something called Deathcore, and that I would learn to enjoy it, after the initial shock. (I have my ticket to go see Slaughter to Prevail in 2 months) At some point, you should look at their Pain Remains trilogy of songs. Perhaps not all 3 at once, and bring tissues for any of the songs, as they make everyone cry. They are so emotional.
I got into this genre of metal with Cradle of Filth in 1997. I loathed the vocalist Dani Filth at first, but I loved the music so much I continued listening. Over time (and not much time) his voice sounded more like another instrument which added elements the others could not, and that's when I just became a huge fan. To this day, their song "Cruelty Brought Thee Orchids" is still one of my favorites, and their latest remix of it is even better. One of the best guitar riffs ever and one thing that I love about Cradle specifically is (I don't know how to put this) but their music, albeit black metal is also like a lullaby in that you can thrash around and headbang if you like or... you can calmly sway back and forth to it just as easily. I find it relaxing and I haven't found that with any other black metal artists.
Oh, try Caladan Brood, songs like for instance Walking the ashes of dead Empires, or Wild Autumn Wind, or Book of the Fallen. Calm, melancholic, but also inspiring, beautiful and somehow empowering.
At the part where you said it sounded like two voices, it was. He layered two recordings of a high technique and a low technique to create what I would call a timbral harmony. It's a very common trick in deathcore.
Lorna Shore is my favorite deathcore band of all time. Will Ramos is a vocal unicorn. You should check out his one take performances, they are legendary. Loved your reaction. 🤘
Next react to Pain Remains trilogy. With Music videos, there are 3 parts. Apply named as Pain Remains 1-3. Actor's in it made it so realistic feeling song. Really without the video you get totally different sense of those songs. Oh and if you have seen any Charismatic Voice teatime interviews you just see that in Europe especially all metal scene guys and girls are so cool and they don't see other bands as competition. Especially female fronted bands feature each other's bands and join different projects.
His high screams he calls goblin screams the tea kettle scream you’d have to listen to 10,000 by the band beyond deviation which you should definitely check out
If you're enjoying Will you need to check out Cattle Decapitation. Travis is the originator of this type of extreme vocal and Will is building on his work. Bring Back the Plague We Eat Our Young Scourge of the Offspring A Photic Doom One Day Closer To The End of the World Be Still Our Bleeding Hearts Mammals in Babylon
yes, you are hearing two or three layers of vocals at times! That's pretty common practice, to record a few different sounds on the same lyrics, and then layer them to create a deeper/more complex sound overall (or just to sound "demonic" lol). I'm sure it's already been suggested, but he has a single-take video of this song, without any layering or editing. Definitely worth checking out. (and he has a couple covers of Sleep Token songs that will blow you away. He can SING too!)
It’s in modes you should understand being trained .. the vocals are.a completely different essence and very amazing and hard to do .. anyway research and work your critiques on this genre .. this is an amazing classically root based style .. if you like polyrhythms and amazing vocal different vocal chord structures .. this could be for you .. btw mmm I hope you get it .. much love 💕 Dawson ❤
Not sure if people have said but there is a video where a throat and voice analysist but a camera down his throat while he was doing these screams. Is like an hour long video but it starts at around 24 minutes into the video and is really interesting.
If you think that was cool, check out pain remains. Whole album is going down as one the of the best albums from a metal stand point but the last 3 songs will make you cry. Which is weird for a heavy band.
this whole band is insanely talented. Will’s vocals and Austin’s drums are phenomenal, and then you have Adam and Andrew (lead and rhythm guitars) who are rapidly becoming two of my favorite music composers putting together such beautiful melodies (Michael, the bass player, had not yet joined the band at this point). this is the band that finally lured my normal metalhead self into deathcore.
The best way I have been able to explain this song is that they all give each other space. There is never a moment that feels like someone is taking over. It was a really well written piece of music. Every note and drum hit and very vocal belongs right where it is. And will ramos does inhuman things with his voice. It’s an incredibly well written piece of music
His voice gives me goosebumps every time. The music is not my thing (it works me up too much) but hearing his voice... Dang every time I am flabbergasted
This is one of the most calming and settling songs I have heard in a long time.... Helps reset. Thank you for showing it the respect it deserves, rather than display horror like your counterparts do.
I've watched quite a few reaction videos to this song and band. You have it nailed, far beyond others I've seen. The vocals being a separate instrument, the pendulum swinging, and the true emotions of intrigue/fear/concern during the outro. Full respect.
discovered your channel tonight with the Linda Ronstadt video. Subscribed right after. Watched Karen Carpenter next. Now this! Never heard before. Sounds heavily processed. Last night watched Harper (10- year-old girl) sing on AGT 2022. Check it out. Comment?
This was so cool, I love people that can appreciate all genres! I’m a blues singer, it’s all about feeling and connecting emotionally with your audience. Lorna Shore forces you to feel, simply magic!
Did we just witness someone's conversion to 'Metal Head'? In all seriousness, I find it really refreshing that music professionals are finally pointing out the merit of Metal as a genre.
Ending gave me goosebumps but the whole composition is outstanding. When you get a band work together well you can see it in the finished product. 10/10
Thank you for doing this. It was a great reaction. I am loving how open minded and accepting you are of metal and teaching us at the same time. Lorna Shore is brilliant. The symphonic element and arrangements are what drew me to the band. Like others have said, please check out the Pain Remains trilogy. I am a metalhead in my50s and this is one of the best things I have heard in years. Subscribed!
I, like a lot of people, came here expecting to watch a vocal professional be horrified. Instead, I got to experience a song I love through the new eyes of an open-minded, knowledgeable lover of music (in all its forms, apparently!) Thank you for being more than a just a meme on this one - loved your good humor and depth - I think we all learned something.
Lol I love watching people listen to deathcore when they’re not used to it! I always recommend people have lyrics pulled up and listen to Wills voice as if it were another instrument. After time you can recognize the words without the lyrics because your brain/eyes get used to the sound!
The first time I heard Lorna Shore was this exact video, I found it so exhilarating. It was great to see you react in the same way, so thank you for this.
Sun//Eater by Lorna shore is amazing and he does some vocals with his mouth closed and it sounds amazing and Into the earth by Lorna shore is the same way. This band has a lot of cool songs
My favorite genre is people reacting to the hell fire by lorna shore. Definitely should check out the one take play through of this! Edit: I'm also subscribing seeing how you love these breakdowns and play it over and over again to really digest it. Also, can't wait for you to check out Pain Remains 1, 2, and 3!!!
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Watching people who stereotypically wouldn’t like this kind of music react so glowingly warms my cold heavy metal heart.
Same. I have to say it's also glorious when a serious metalhead goes all 'fuck yeah 🤘🤘this rules' at sleeping kittens or a string quartet
Underrated pun
Couldn't agree more, mate!
Lifetime metalhead here and there's nothing better than knowing that there are more and more people opening up to dirty vocals!
When they find out it's not just about being angry and all that.
It takes an ASTOUNDING amount of talent to do the things Will (And so many other harsh vocalists) does
@@IdiotPosterBoy hell yeah, I fuckin LOVE me some sleeping kittens AND string quartets! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@IdiotPosterBoy We are tough on the outside to shield all the fluffy sweetness and beauty inside from this fallen world...
The fact that you mention his vocals being not vocals, but another instrument is so refreshing to hear from a vocal coach perspective.
That's exactly what I tell people who say they aren't singing or that they can't understand what they are saying. That's essentially what that vocal style is. Another instrument in an arrangement.
Not necessarily to be understood, but to be experienced. LOVE this analysis 🤘😝
This genre has never been more strong. It’s in great hands going forward and it’s nice to see it get attention. So many great vocalists and band members.
@@derekk8523 as a listener of the genre for over a decade, I couldn't agree more.
Yes! The voice is more than just for words and melodies.
It can create textures and elicit emotions and function as an it’s own type of instrument 😊
Agreed (bona fide metalhead).
I refer to the the vocals as the devil organ, Will plays a mean devil organ
You should react to his live one-takes, the man is IN.....SANNNNNNNELY talented!
Absolutely. I always recommend his To The Hellfire one take to vocal coaches
Consider it done!
@@TheVocalyst he has one for the second track from this EP, Of the Abyss, I'd give that one a shot so you get exposure to another amazing track!
Agreed.
So smooth and seemingly effortless.
Yeah he’s insane I’ve seen him live twice and sounds fucking phenomenal
It's weirdly fun seeing someone with a classical background really getting metal. You seem to fly right through the abrasive harshness of it all, perhaps there is a true metalhead deep down there all along.
Will is really one of a kind.
There are many similarities. Beethoven would a metalhead if he lived today. I remember a Norwegian documentary from the late nineties about black metal and a classical composer who was interviewed said the same thing. Well, that's where I got it from really. Haha.
Mann the band is cool heavy vibe makes your head Bob n weave, makes your body hard n bounce..... music or sounds for me........boy vocally hard work hahahaha
I've always thought that about Beethoven as well.
Believe it or not but us metalheads are very versatile when it comes to music and many of us like and or appreciate classical music, that is why their is an entire sub-genre symphonic metal
@@norsepaganmetalhead I waited a long time for metal and classical to cross paths ❤ It always felt like they belonged together!
Its so damn awesome when vocal specialists are also blown away by the instrumentalists too
If you enjoyed this, you'll be absolutely blown away by the one takes.
It's impressive to do this in separate takes, let alone the one takes and live performances he does
Couldn't agree more with this
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It's really cool that you were able to immediately appreciate the musicality of their music! One thing I don't see many vocal coaches mention about Will's vocals is the *huge* amount of breath support he has to generate to create the projection and sustain he can have in his low screams/growls, which are done with the true folds held open. I'll also echo others recommending you react to some of Will's one take vocal performances. They show what he does even better than the music videos.
He’s also asthmatic.
I think what's special about Will is the breath control and how quickly he switches between the sounds he makes, I've heard most of them elsewhere as I'm kinda familiar with subgenres of extreme metal, but I've never heard someone who can swap between them all so quickly. Hell, I can make probably 60% of the noises he does and sing along in the car, the problem is as you say, the breath, on a held scream I'm running out 2-3 seconds before him
@@JohnTCampbell1986 especially cause he can do it live. I've heard fast switches but live they struggle to do it. Will is special in that area
Several folks are recommending Will's one-take vocal playthroughs, and these are indeed amazing. They also have Will's voice right at the front of the mix, so it's easier to hear everything he's doing.
However, I would like to recommend some other Lorna Shore music. First, for sheer energy, I'd recommend Sun//Eater. Also, Lorna Shore have written a ballad: Pain Remains. It's in three parts, but the videos are clearly labelled.
Also, shout-out to Austin Archey on the drums. He is, I've been told, a living, breathing human being. But he has the rhythmic sense of a metronomic robot. The speed and precision of his double-kick work is just amazing.
Austin also has a herniated disc in his back and still laid this down.. dudes real solid 🤘
That layered growl is sometimes referred to as a "double harmonic". You layer it a little like you do with overtone singing but you are adding a guttural distortion instead of the hum that is used iin most cases. So all your diction comes from the clean layer and the distortion sort of frames the diction. That way you don't lose the lyrics in the "mud" that you hear in other metal styles. Alex Terrible is fucking amazing at the double harmonic.
To achieve that goblin scream it actually really helps if you can do an imitation of gollum, because then all you have to do is add the fry because your tongue and mouth positions are already set and a lot of the "high" sound comes from the smeagol voice.
This is fascinating! Not me imitating Gollum for the last 10 minutes... 😅
@@TheVocalyst It's actually kind of amazing what you can do vocally if you can imitate other vocal speech patterns. For example if you add a subharmonic and slightly alter the Gollum voice, you can achieve a pretty good approximation of a stereotypical robot voice.
Dickie def mastered that goblin voice 😉 I heard Wills biggest inspiration is Infant Annihilator so it makes sense he sounds pretty similar when it comes to highs and you can hear it in Into The Earth. Dickies biggest inspo is Travis from Cattle Decap which is a huge influence on deathcore which all stems down to the newest bands and yet all their voices are so unique.
@@2174863 Absolutely, much as I love Will and think he is doing amazing things, Dickie was doing it first and, not to remove any of the incredible skill Will has, but Dickie does it better, just by the sheer amount of experience he has had.
Why Lorna Shore has blown up so much is probably because we've moved beyond "metal vocals are just noise." Before Dickie you have Travis, so on and so forth but at that time you had a lot of the left over aspects of the satanic panic and metal is just noise that didn't really allow them the space to go as, comparatively, big. As prevailing opinions change about metal we see break outs. Will is the goblin prince to Dickie's goblin king. The fact that people are viewing harsh vocals in a new light, means there is nuance there and channels like this one and Charismatic Voice and Kardavox are really bringing styles of music into a lime light that it hasn't operated in before. There are "harsh vocal" metal bands that don't get any of the credit they have deserved. This is kind of a golden age of metal where audiences and media are all cross connecting and appreciation of metal has never been to the degree I find it is today.
Lorna shore is blowing up because the music is more relatable to more new listeners and wills personality. Lorna shore has always been a great band. Add a great front man and more symphonic elements you start getting the ingredients for success. Not to mention to the hellfire came out at a time when most people were at home looking for rabbit holes. I listen to deathcore a ton and find it hard to listen to infant. Find it to chaotic. Bands like worm shepherd/ Lorna ect have mastered the blackened sound and made it easy to listen to
One of the most epic endings to a song I’ve ever heard and I’ve listened to a lot of music in 35 years lol.
Totally agree. I've listened to a LOT of heavy music in my life and still find myself holding my breath at the end of this (after 100s of listens)
Totally agree and I'm 52
When it comes to epic endings this one is almost unbeatable
I have been listening and playing metal since I was a kid, about 20yrs now and this song is the single most unbelievably dirty, brutal vocals I have ever heard. The timing of the beat during the breakdown and other odd timings is really the cherry on top
exactly i love extremely heavy music but the deathly pig sqeals r def a new but awsome one
There’s no going back after this one. One of us.
Wonderful reaction, Bethany. Will is such a creative vocalist, and wonderful human being. Thank you for commenting on the music, it is the perfect foil for Will's vocals. Lorna Shore coming together is just finally getting the right people together. They are creating magic. Definitely check out Will's one-takes, they are just incredible, and the camera is focused on him the whole time. Musically, check out the Pain Remains trilogy, it will show the full breadth of the bands musical talent. I have tickets to see Lorna in the spring, can't wait.
I was one of those who recommended you to react to Lorna Shore and specifically to Will Ramos, I love that you have react to this song, but, for a vocal coach, I think the one-take version was much better, but all good, you have the opportunity to react to another of the videos on Will's channel where he does those versions hehehehehe. Greetings from Santiago de Chile!
True it would be better for her to react to the one-take vocal playtrought versions 🤘🏻😃
That ending gets everyone. Lol.
Another metal vocalist who has incredible control of her voice is Courtney Laplante of Spiritbox. If you watch her live one takes or the 17 minute video that is their live studio performance of The Mara Effect (3 seperate songs and an interlude), you’ll see she has next to no strain on her voice.
Chester benington was also amazing, his 17 second scream was insane
I'm 27 and have been listening to all kinds of metal since I was about 12/13 years old and I have to say that even after all the time this song has been out, it one of the best metal songs I've experienced in my little life. God damn, it's good. Great reaction as well. Kudos to the band as well for this masterpiece. Will is a god
Romantic melody :)
Lyrics: MY FINAL BREATH! SWALLOWED BY THE WOMB OF DEATH!
XD
Welcome to death metal! Glad to have ya! We're just a bunch of silly geese that get our anger and sadness out through music. :)
Nooo. Why not the one take 😭
You should watch his one take play throughs, he covered Chokehold by Sleep Token recently and it's absolutely stunning, his cleans are just as amazing as his harsh vocals. He's definitely a unicorn among musicians.
From your facial expressions ..your inner metal head is trying to come out. Embrace it !!!🤘🏻😤🏴☠️
Symphonic Deathcore is your new wheelhouse now...just facts 🤘😁🤘 (also I've watched this video 3 times today already...don't judge me)
The musicians in Lorna Shore have achieved the kind of precision and tightness that elevate a group above its contemporaries. Add to that their strong sense of melody and Will Ramos's stunning range of growls, screams, bleats, and squeals, and you have possibly the premiere deathcore ensemble working today. I loved your commentary, Beth! Keep up the variety on the channel...without forgetting about Angelina Jordan, of course. :) Another band that weaves strong melodies into their aggressive sound is Arch Enemy. Let me link you their live Tokyo performance of their song Nemesis, with former vocalist Angela Gossow: th-cam.com/video/fS-YHJbmAXs/w-d-xo.html
You need to react to "Demolisher" by Slaughter to Prevail! Alex Terrible has some absolutely insane and very unique vocals.
The one take vocal performance would've been 10x more interesting since here his vocals are kinda drowned in the mix but hey...maybe you can react to that too :D
Your reaction is amazing. If you want to be blown away, try Lorna Shore Pain Remains 1 2 and 3. Masterpiece
I am also stunned. That a lady that looks like a musical singer would not only analyze but even like such bizarre, unholy music lol. And I'm saying that as somebody who likes heavy metal 😆
You ever listen to a band/record that just sticks out in your mind because of how little you remember it, even though you've listened to it several times?
That's what this band and album is like. It's bloody boring.
Will was the missing piece the band needed. He took the band to an entirely new game and they’ve already beaten the game. I have listened to this ep every single day since it came out. I am still just as excited listening to it now as I was the forest time
He really blew the band up in popularity
Please, more reactions to the queen of goosebumps, Diana Ankudinova, here you will be truly stunned, no, defeated. The song "River" Rechenka), performed by Diana at the age of 14 on the You Super project, is an unsurpassed work of the master.Recently, Diana performed this most difficult song without music - acapela.
Rechenka (acapella)
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Will is the best vocalist currently in this genre. He is an animal and so creative at how he uses his voice. To me this is just as beautiful as an opera singer. The level of skill and talent is as equally difficult to master. Same for the band. Each is at expert level with their instruments. It's awe inspiring.
i agree but also check out dickie allen from infant annihalator
My cold sadistic heart glows up seeing people react to the pig squeal of Will, defo when it's people who are hearing it for the first time. It's amazing how one guy came in and took over the entire musical world with brute, unhuman force and introduced musical " virgins " to deathcore in a way no other vocalist could ever do before. He might not be the best out there ( i am not hating on him ) but he sure as hell cemented deathcore into the mainstream without selling out the music style like so many other metal vocalists did before.
Another band you should check out is Archspire they are amazing. They have vocal play through of a couple of their songs and ARCHSPIRE "Lucid Collective Somnambulation" Vocal is so cool. Please react to them and thanks.
I'm an old metal head but the only new bands doing it for me are Lorna Shore and Archspire. Vocally they're pushing it forward, and also have good hooks.
you should do the album opener, Welcome Back O Sleeping Dreamer, you know about notes right? would love to know how big his vocal drop is from the solo into that breakdown after, that is absolute insanity.... possibly the biggest vocal drop in music history.
I also love how genuinely you appreciate the musically that may be far from your own choice of listening. Incredibly insightful and respectful
Will is amazing. I'm not into death core, but I admire the talent.
Please check out some of his one take vocal performances plus his vocal cover of Hypnosis by Sleep Token.
Good job! first mission accomplished! Now react to Lorna Shore: pain remains dancing like flames, and then the trilogy
Will is amazing. Now listen to his friend's band Infant Annihilator. It's even crazier.
Your take around rhe 3:30 mark is really interesting to me.
When I listen to this song, it brings the same emotional feeling to me, that the first movement of moonlight sonata gives (me at least).
A desolate field littered with corpses from a war being waged. Kind of like if the battle of helms deep was illuminated by only the moon, on a clear dark night.
I'll reiterate what people are saying. You need to check out Will's one takes. The album tracks have a lot of layered screams of mixed highs and lows, and having his vocals basically isolated is REALLY amazing to watch
so you did it finally, Will is a true unicorn of extreme vocals, on his one take he is BETTER and much more cleanly understandible, so you should really go for that one :)
The One Take versions Will has put out on his channel have the vocals more dominant than the instruments which from a vocal analysis might be more useful also they have better lighting and camera angle so it is easier to see Will's body posture and throat/face positions. Plus he has one where he sings clean covering Sleep Token.
His cleans shocked me. He’s no vessel, but wow.
Not a soul has heard this song without making stank face
check out ARCHSPIRE-spoiler alert the vocalist uses circular breathing and is able to constantly sing lyrics
Please please please do more metal. I love that you are doing this!
Its funny, I've heard growls and screams in tunes for years, I think the earliest memory of such would be King Diamond, but it took Will doing 'softer' music for me to really fall in and give it a proper listen ... and I can't say it's something I'd listen to on a daily basis but I find that I'm much more inclined to enjoy it.
I wish I could go back to the first time I heard this song. I almost wrecked my car. My favorite metal song of all time.
there is layering going on but if you watch his one take vocal you can hear what he can do
Regarding 9:50 the "2 voices at once": Im not sure if that is a technique or not, but the singer of the band Gojira does something similar. While he is screaming, there is some actual "singing" in it aswell. Its a very unique voice
She should listen to The art of dying and/or Where Dragons Dwell🤘🤘
This video was my first exposure to Lorna Shore, and Will Ramos, a while back. It showed me that there is something called Deathcore, and that I would learn to enjoy it, after the initial shock. (I have my ticket to go see Slaughter to Prevail in 2 months)
At some point, you should look at their Pain Remains trilogy of songs. Perhaps not all 3 at once, and bring tissues for any of the songs, as they make everyone cry. They are so emotional.
I can't believe I just watched the birth of a metalhead in real-time
I’d automatically propose to any woman that said this has a romantic melody
I got into this genre of metal with Cradle of Filth in 1997. I loathed the vocalist Dani Filth at first, but I loved the music so much I continued listening. Over time (and not much time) his voice sounded more like another instrument which added elements the others could not, and that's when I just became a huge fan.
To this day, their song "Cruelty Brought Thee Orchids" is still one of my favorites, and their latest remix of it is even better. One of the best guitar riffs ever and one thing that I love about Cradle specifically is (I don't know how to put this) but their music, albeit black metal is also like a lullaby in that you can thrash around and headbang if you like or... you can calmly sway back and forth to it just as easily.
I find it relaxing and I haven't found that with any other black metal artists.
Oh, try Caladan Brood, songs like for instance Walking the ashes of dead Empires, or Wild Autumn Wind, or Book of the Fallen. Calm, melancholic, but also inspiring, beautiful and somehow empowering.
At the part where you said it sounded like two voices, it was. He layered two recordings of a high technique and a low technique to create what I would call a timbral harmony. It's a very common trick in deathcore.
It just fills out the vocals SO MUCH.
Lorna Shore is my favorite deathcore band of all time. Will Ramos is a vocal unicorn. You should check out his one take performances, they are legendary. Loved your reaction. 🤘
You know you are a metal head when you hear words and lyrics.
When others talk about it purely as screams and sounds or noises.
Next react to Pain Remains trilogy. With Music videos, there are 3 parts. Apply named as Pain Remains 1-3. Actor's in it made it so realistic feeling song. Really without the video you get totally different sense of those songs.
Oh and if you have seen any Charismatic Voice teatime interviews you just see that in Europe especially all metal scene guys and girls are so cool and they don't see other bands as competition. Especially female fronted bands feature each other's bands and join different projects.
Love your reaction and commentary came here via The Charismatic Voice!!!
His high screams he calls goblin screams the tea kettle scream you’d have to listen to 10,000 by the band beyond deviation which you should definitely check out
If you're enjoying Will you need to check out Cattle Decapitation. Travis is the originator of this type of extreme vocal and Will is building on his work.
Bring Back the Plague
We Eat Our Young
Scourge of the Offspring
A Photic Doom
One Day Closer To The End of the World
Be Still Our Bleeding Hearts
Mammals in Babylon
If it sounds like there's two voices, it's because there's like 5 layers in his vocal mix.
yes, you are hearing two or three layers of vocals at times! That's pretty common practice, to record a few different sounds on the same lyrics, and then layer them to create a deeper/more complex sound overall (or just to sound "demonic" lol). I'm sure it's already been suggested, but he has a single-take video of this song, without any layering or editing. Definitely worth checking out. (and he has a couple covers of Sleep Token songs that will blow you away. He can SING too!)
It would be cool if you can give a try to former LS frontman - CJ. Perfect song for this will be LORNA SHORE - IMMORTAL
It’s in modes you should understand being trained .. the vocals are.a completely different essence and very amazing and hard to do .. anyway research and work your critiques on this genre .. this is an amazing classically root based style .. if you like polyrhythms and amazing vocal different vocal chord structures .. this could be for you .. btw mmm I hope you get it .. much love 💕 Dawson ❤
Iconic. Truly.
That smile at 0:36 when it gets alittle heavy lol
Not sure if people have said but there is a video where a throat and voice analysist but a camera down his throat while he was doing these screams. Is like an hour long video but it starts at around 24 minutes into the video and is really interesting.
If you think that was cool, check out pain remains. Whole album is going down as one the of the best albums from a metal stand point but the last 3 songs will make you cry. Which is weird for a heavy band.
Got a sub from me for even approaching this.
Great open minded objective perspective.
It has the Mexican Desperado vibe guitar at the beginning, and the Mexican cartel chainsaw to your face in the end.
this whole band is insanely talented. Will’s vocals and Austin’s drums are phenomenal, and then you have Adam and Andrew (lead and rhythm guitars) who are rapidly becoming two of my favorite music composers putting together such beautiful melodies (Michael, the bass player, had not yet joined the band at this point). this is the band that finally lured my normal metalhead self into deathcore.
The best way I have been able to explain this song is that they all give each other space. There is never a moment that feels like someone is taking over. It was a really well written piece of music. Every note and drum hit and very vocal belongs right where it is. And will ramos does inhuman things with his voice. It’s an incredibly well written piece of music
You should definitely check out his cover of Hypnosis. His clean vocals are equally impressive!
His voice gives me goosebumps every time. The music is not my thing (it works me up too much) but hearing his voice... Dang every time I am flabbergasted
Listen to the pain remains trilogy. Tears for sure.
What about Drone Corpse Aviator? 😉
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This is one of the most calming and settling songs I have heard in a long time.... Helps reset.
Thank you for showing it the respect it deserves, rather than display horror like your counterparts do.
Love your reaction, first in disbelief and then the pure enjoyment.
I've watched quite a few reaction videos to this song and band. You have it nailed, far beyond others I've seen. The vocals being a separate instrument, the pendulum swinging, and the true emotions of intrigue/fear/concern during the outro. Full respect.
You should do a video on his cover of Sleep Token's - Hypnosis.
He does some cleans.
SUB OFFICIALLY EARNED 🤘😝🤘
Now you need to watch the pain remains trilogy. It's incredible
You should react to his cover of sleep token’s hypnosis, he can actually sing too it’s amazing
discovered your channel tonight with the Linda Ronstadt video. Subscribed right after. Watched Karen Carpenter next. Now this! Never heard before. Sounds heavily processed. Last night watched Harper (10- year-old girl) sing on AGT 2022. Check it out. Comment?
See Will Ramos One takes pls
This was so cool, I love people that can appreciate all genres! I’m a blues singer, it’s all about feeling and connecting emotionally with your audience. Lorna Shore forces you to feel, simply magic!
I definetly recommend his One Take Performances, for example the Cursed to Die Onetake.
The voice there is obviously much more in the focus.
15:34 oh man. We know its coming. She's not ready lol.
Did we just witness someone's conversion to 'Metal Head'?
In all seriousness, I find it really refreshing that music professionals are finally pointing out the merit of Metal as a genre.
Plus one go see the one take it's amazing and you see how it's "easy" for him ...and the rest of the band is sick !
Ending gave me goosebumps but the whole composition is outstanding. When you get a band work together well you can see it in the finished product. 10/10
My guy Will Ramos sound good in the studio but sounds even better live yo
He was the perfect vocalist for the band. Just 🤌🤌
Thank you for doing this. It was a great reaction. I am loving how open minded and accepting you are of metal and teaching us at the same time. Lorna Shore is brilliant. The symphonic element and arrangements are what drew me to the band. Like others have said, please check out the Pain Remains trilogy. I am a metalhead in my50s and this is one of the best things I have heard in years. Subscribed!
I, like a lot of people, came here expecting to watch a vocal professional be horrified. Instead, I got to experience a song I love through the new eyes of an open-minded, knowledgeable lover of music (in all its forms, apparently!) Thank you for being more than a just a meme on this one - loved your good humor and depth - I think we all learned something.
Lol I love watching people listen to deathcore when they’re not used to it! I always recommend people have lyrics pulled up and listen to Wills voice as if it were another instrument. After time you can recognize the words without the lyrics because your brain/eyes get used to the sound!
best voice ever hands down
10:06 he uses his gut (guttural) and Chest cavity
The first time I heard Lorna Shore was this exact video, I found it so exhilarating. It was great to see you react in the same way, so thank you for this.
Sun//Eater by Lorna shore is amazing and he does some vocals with his mouth closed and it sounds amazing and Into the earth by Lorna shore is the same way. This band has a lot of cool songs
it would be really cool to see your reactions to Lorna Shores Pain Remains trilogy too!
My favorite genre is people reacting to the hell fire by lorna shore. Definitely should check out the one take play through of this!
Edit: I'm also subscribing seeing how you love these breakdowns and play it over and over again to really digest it. Also, can't wait for you to check out Pain Remains 1, 2, and 3!!!
i get chills everytime i hear this song. check out Ne Obliviscaris - and plague flowers the kaleidoscope.