A few things: I didn't make this video. I found it a while ago and had a hunch it would get taken down at some point, so I saved it. Sure enough it disappeared so as promised I put it back. The reason I post this is because the tiresome "greatness debate" which basketball has mutated into has devolved into simplistic numerical comparison, and ignores the more important aspects of team basketball, character, and motivation. This video is not hate, it is a critique of leadership in tough situations. If they put the debate down, i love the guy. But if you're going to argue greatness, you can't overlook this.
Unfortunately, for the past 5+ years, all LeBron has cared about is padding his stats. It is obvious on wide-open plays where a teammate will pass it to LeBron just for LeBron to pass it back for the assist. It is obvious when the rest of the team stands around so LeBron can get an uncontested rebound. It is obvious when in garbage minutes, a teammate with an easy layup will instead pass it to LeBron so he can brick a 3. It is obvious when his teammates on offense will allow LeBron to switch defender matchups just so he can be paired with the smallest man on the opponent's team.
@@Kmonique27 His body language whenever things don't go his way shows he's toxic. Instead of galvanizing his teammates and showing true leadership he pushes to get them traded. What kind of leader is that?
@@tmacman0418 true, but if you want to play professional basketball, then you have to be pushed to your limits. Lebron is just being hard & stern on them because if you cant develop a talent then you need to sit out. teammate wise, not the best. But if this was based on carrying a trash team wise, then his leadership is exquisite.
@@MikeBNumba6 Pippen never quit on his team. When he didn't go back in the game in '94 he was mad at Phil not his team. No other incidents like that ever happened after that one.
@@bos3835 Pippen did quit and he was pouty. Also the migraine game or taking half the season off when he could have gotten treatment for his injuries in the offseason. Pippen's issues fly under the radar because he wasn't the team leader like Lebron
@@yoitsSmitty2004yall act like players don't complain about the game all the time in every single sport I swear yall lebron haters are some really interesting individuals
@@yoitsSmitty2004 so reminding the ref to make a right call is bitching now? what a joke. can't stand you LeBron haters, pathetic fanbase, full of clowns and narcissists. 😂😂
I just don’t see how a human could watch Jordan and lebron play and think Lebron is the better player. It’s insane to me that people think that. Watching Jordan play is like watching poetry in motion. Watching Lebron play is really nothing special. I just don’t see what these people see in Lebron that makes them think he’s the goat.
It’s pretty rare someone is a lebum fan plays basketball in his/her real life. And commend someone ‘moves like lebum’ in street courts would definitely piss them off
He is the Chosen One that's all his fans know. Half of them don't actually watch sports they thought they were being inclusive to Next and I thought so at one point. A long long time ago. His play drove me away from liking him, then all the other BS drama that comes with him didn't help
Yall watch some clips and then use it to judge 21 years of playing basketball 😂 It's funny how trolls veiws on lebronnare so different from coaches and players and teammates have said about him Over the years
That’s because they kiss his ass lol the commentators that call him out get canned and they were coaches lol he been toxic since Miami and his juicing days lol wipe your mouth when ur done
@@imanamerican553 The countless times bro has left his team 4v5, left games before they end when he's going to lose, sat 30 chairs away from his teammates when he's in his feels. It ain't trolling. It's calling what we see. The only people whoever say he's a leader are media and fanboys.
@@imanamerican553bruh, are you serious? This is the honest truth whether you accept it or not. LeBron carries and travels more than I've ever seen in ANY kind of basketball outside of thr 7-8 year olds league. LeBron was propped up and was made to be believed thar he is better than he actually is, he literally needs a super team to win. What's GOAT about that? Now he's trying to get KD, sad bruh.
@alfuller1332 I always find it funny when coaches, nba legends, nba superstars, and players lebron has played with and against throughout the nba say things completely different from what you guys call the "truth" "Being propped up by the nba" doesn't make you magically have the greatest playoff and finals performances in nba history "He literally needs a superteam to win" Mj had a 10% win rate in the playoffs without pippen lebron has shown that he's capable of winning without a superteam I swear yall lebron haters just live making shit up🤣😭 Getting a great player on your team is sad now?? I swear yall lebron haters are now hating on lebron for trying to get a good teamate💀
@@imanamerican553you’re asking how Lebron James is a quitter when you just watched a 7 minute compilation of him quitting? You Lebron fans are the same as the t community.
@@VforVengeance159 I'm 100% certain that his amazing strength, healing ability, and longevity is the product of clean living and a million dollars a month at GNC .
What’s his talent besides size? He is a below average shooter, below average ball handler, poor footwork, poor leadership, poor sportsmanship, zero mentoring ability, doesn’t play elite defense, egotistical so never improved on his flaws because it’s everyone’s else’s fault. I keep hearing for 21 years about his talent, IQ, clutchness etc but when I watch his games for 21 years I just don’t see skill, IQ or clutchness. I see an aided athlete with help of something, allegedly, good passer definitely, but I do not see this great skill they keep pounding in our heads. Where is this greatest IQ in the finals? Where is this greatest talent in the finals? Where is the greatest clutchness in the finals/playoffs as a whole? Where is the dominance? They keep telling me all these things and I’ve been waiting 21 years to see it.
@snakebitten6967 it's not about you waiting 21 years to see the person people are talking about It's yiu thing lwbron and refusing to see the person people are talking about Every superstar needs help every nba superstar is a human being capable of making mistakes and having games were they underperformed But to you lebron haters you only hyperfocuse on the bad things about lebron nd refuse to see the good Lebron is an incredible passer and an incredible shooter Lebron has a better 3 point and true shooting percentage than mj in the regular season playoffs and finals Lebron has good ball handling skills by no means is it average "Poor footwork" I'm pretty sure this is just you throwing shit out there 😂 "Never improved on his flaws" This statement alone shows you don't have any basketball knowledge at all and are simply a lebron hater You don't see the skill in 21 years really? Lebron has the greatest playoff performance and finals performances in nba history Lebron in multiple playoff runs accounted for half his teams points(points and assists)
@@imanamerican553You’re watching a 7min document on how bad of a leader he is and you’re talking about refusing to see what’s in your face, isn’t that ironic? Ball handling skills? Is that why he has so much travelling and carrying complilations in yt alone? He’s in a league that follows a different set of rules from the basketball that everybody knew for years. Better 3 point shooting? By making 2 out of 5 shots? If you can only read stats that the media shows you, it sure looks good. And Lebron has the greatest playoff performances in NBA history? Sure. Is that why he only has won 4 rings in 21 years?
Sharpe bringing up Washington like Jordan had an actual team there and he wasn’t injured. Jordan was still throwing up 40 point games on Washington and never quit on defense or effort despite his team being bad and have a bad injury. The amount of mental gymnastics people make for LeBalco is wild.
@@AlanRR121 It's inequitable to compare 39 year old MJ to 39 year old Lebron. Jordan, as a Wizard, was plagued with injuries from day one...broken ribs, back spasms, severed tendon in his right index finger, tendinitis in his knees and wrist...fluid had to be drained from his knee regularly due to severe swelling! Yet, despite being injury-riddled and playing on a subpar team, he still put up comparable numbers to Lebron that first year in Washington (prior to his meniscus tear)...unlike James though, he gave maximum effort on BOTH ends of the court, without an AD level player beside him. Additionally, Jordan's shots were mainly from the mid-range and heavily contested, Lebron's shots are mostly uncontested lay-ups or uncontested 3 pointers, most of his shots coming from within 3 feet of the basket. Context matters, clearly not to you but it matters to most people.
A few clips from across 21 years doesn't define 21 years of playing basketball 😂 It's funny seeing you a internet troll with zero basketball knowledge and who is using an account dedicated to hating lebron as proof has to say Vs Coaches, players, teammates, superstars and nba legends have to say about lebron Can you give me some examples of LeBron hating his teammates for screwing up
He literally plays like he in high school and even a real high school coach would sub him out for these type of plays IDC what ur name say on the back of the jersey but not this guy. Anybody who says otherwise ain't never played a game before other than 2k
Exactly what I was going to type.. I just watched this guy in the one offensive set break all the basic rules of floor spacing including dribbling towards the corner, drawing 3 defenders to his man there, telegraphing the pass and then leaving the ground for no reason to make the pass. And then when the guy fumbled the ball because he had 3 defenders crowded around him that the jackass brought over to him, the jackass gets angry at him and refuses to run back on D. I was pro for over a decade and a coach for another 15 years after that, I've coached many 14 year old's with higher ball IQs than LeBron lol
LeBron James is a toxic teammate. His 4* rings are a testament to how good his teammates were and how much crap they had to put up with. (* asterist is for the bubble ring)
Only casuals ride his jockstrap and make excuses for him.Anybody that watched true superstars win titles know that Lebron has no heart.Never see any “star” whine as much as him.
@mcfeld7813 it's not outrageous he's had the greatest playoff and finals performances He's faced far greater teams in he playoffs His skill and leadership abilities are next level and in some year accounting for nearly half to over half his teams points in playoff runs
Never forget this man has “the chosen one” tattooed on himself 😂😂😂 21 years of underachieving, failed super teams, excuses, scapegoating, crying and choking. Please never retire lefraud
Lebum and his agent Rich Paul came up with that GOAT mess after the 2016 NBA Finals. A Finals that was stolen from Golden State. Suspending Draymond, Bogut getting injured, Lebum flopping and getting foul calls to go their way, etc.
His inflated and padded stats, that's it. It takes way more then stats to be the best, Jordan was a great leader and teammate, pushed those around him to be their best and always showed up in the biggest moments.
Thats why there’s no chemistry in the Lakers team. Imagine having a leader like that!! Doesn’t make his teammates better and always needs trades!! The deer 🦌
@yoitsSmitty2004 and there are far more games(not cherry-picked clips) and interviews with coaches, teammates, players, who argue against you(a random internet troll with zero basketball knowledge)
This is well done, but just starts to scratch the surface. LeBaby giving up when things get tough goes back to the eastern conference semi finals in 2008 against the Celtics
Lebron accounted for over half his teams points in the 2008 playoffs(points and assist) And I'm sorry can you exsplain to me how dropping 45-5-6 in game 7 equals to giving up? Lebron created 60 out of 92 points from Cleveland Any coach, player, franchise that lebron has faced all tell completely different views on lebron than what yall trolls say 😂
@@imanamerican553Lebron averaged over 5 turnovers a game on 35-23-75 shooting splits. Game one from the field 2-18 (11%) 0-6 from three (0%) 10 turnovers Game two 6-24 (25%) 0-4 from three( 0%) 7 turnovers Game three 5-16 (31%) 3-5 (60%) 2 turnovers Game four 7-20 (35%) 2-5 from three (40%) 4 turnovers Game five 12-25 (48%) 0-5 from three (0%) 4 turnovers Game six 9-23 (39%) 1-3 from three (33%) 8 turnovers Game seven 14-29 (48%) 3-11 (27%) 2 turnovers 36% of his series points came from the line. He played like hot garbage. In that last game he shot an abysmal 14-19 from the line. Meaning that 31% of his points were because of phantom free throws.
@@imanamerican553 And coaches, players, and franchises all tell completely different views on Jordan than what you liars and trolls say. This lebron being goat crap started with nick wright. and he proposed the question just to gain views. Jordan never said he was the best. The world told him he was the best, and we never gave lebron that title. Especially after 2011.
Michael Jordan still chase down BLOCK from his own TO at age 40. He retired because he noticed he can no longer able to keep up that kind of energy. Lebron on the other hand keep playing with no energy , he keep playing just to extend his stats and career.
Mj had 8 40 plus games with the wizards and 0 triple doubles with a shooting percentage of .416 in 2002 and .445 in 2003 Lebron has had 8 40 plus games in his last two years with 6 triple doubles with a .500 in 2022-23 season and a .540 this season A few clips doesn't show an entire season yall lebron haters are slow af 😂
@@imanamerican553 While getting bounced out by a 'plumber' who doesn't have another all star, while your king has a top 5 player.. Even with the help of the association, he can't make his load managing flopping ass to the playoffs.. A Lejock sniffer who presents emojis instead of context should better about being slow af
How many excuses do we need to make for LeFlop? Sure, MJ made some mistakes here and there, but I never saw that man quit. This video alone shows JUST A FEW of the times he quits. Even his body language alone shows how much of a quitter he is. No doubt he’s talented, but not a GOAT… it’s really not that close either.
It's actually really close, and to many, they see it as LeBron has already surpassed mj(I'm in that group) Old heads only focus on lebron mistakes and put the blame entirely on him and don't even bother to look at the things he's accomplished
@@imanamerican553 Probably because you have never seen MJ play in person lmao. These "old heads" have seen both and LeBron loves to cry and flop. When LeBron wins playoffs he wants to shake the other teams hands and sh*t and when he loses he just leaves like a crybaby. He wants to switch teams when they start losing and try to recruit star players to help him win.
@XxAiku2304xX you don't watch basketball And the old heads that say this shit don't watch basketball nor do they have any basketball knowledge Even mj himself is capable of giving credit to lebron skill something yall smooth brain fucks can't do
@@theorush6507 yup his extreme fans have to lie because they know MJ is secretly the goat because they know LeBron ain't got no real handles, ain't got no post up moves, his dunks are basic, ain't got no finesse, no lateral movement, no defense, always mysteriously gets injured when can't cut it, he's boring and relies more into bore into you in brute strength 😆
@@vgrg7841 2009 LeBron would dog your black Jesus, also not to mention that LeBron has a higher 3pt% then Jordan. Jordan couldn't even make one 3 to save his life. 😂😂
@@vgrg7841 Jordan couldn't even use his left if he had too, all he did was bring the ball down and yelled at the refs. literally it was hot garbage watching MJ play. then you guys override that overrated free-throw dunk like it was some type of superhuman abilities, NO kid. that's all y'all know MJ for, and it's making me wonder if MJ fans are nothing but causal delusional fans that try to act different, or a bunch salty miserable old heads who have nothing better to do and wants to hate on a grown 39-year-old that was playing better at Jordans age and even averaging the same numbers as his prime self in 2009-2018. appreciate greatness while you can, cause when he retires what are you going to do? want to hate on the man, but he's the reason why you narcissistic old heads feel better about yourself. he is living rent free in your mind 24/7, and that what makes you guys interesting. 21 years and he is still soaring in the air like he's back in his first stint for the cavaliers. appericate greatness while you can.
TRUTH: Softie players, including fake goat Queeny LeBronze medalist James, would have had their career destroyed or KILLED; if they played in the 80's to 90's
@@TeezyfolKKz He didn't wait an hour after the young ones lost to throw them under the bus and say "daddy got this" You gotta let these kids redeem themselves you can't just let them eat that shame. That's some bad shit.
@@TeezyfolKKz Dream Team was always overkill reaction. 84 Olympics - Ewing, Mullin, Jordan, Person, Perkins - peak. 88 - dropoff...one missed gold and we pressed the panic button. I liked it better when we were sending college kids. Kept. our culture strong. Now we're making cartoons.
kobe's last 6 years were spent at the bottom of the standings lmaooo thats what he left you with, a poverty franchise and lebron had to come revive it with your stoopid ssa
I feel sorry for him his whole career he's been this way because everyone believed he was the future chosen one thinking he didn't need no help trying to make him better than Mike and Kobe
My biggest question is if he always throws his teammates under the bus why has none of them made a scene when it’s his fault for lack of effort? I just remembered when Ingram or Kuzma pushed him in the back to make him run the court and get back then how they all got traded that offseason 😂 damn answered my own question
@SoWhat- he didn't plz stop believing in every narrative you hear that fits your argument yall Cleary know nothing about basketball and it shows mj stand are by far the worse thing in the basketball community even worse than steph kobe and lebron stand out together
@@imanamerican553 i'm not a stan of any man, but clearly you're new to basketball. There's the link of kizma pushing your boyfriend. You're clearly a delusional LeBron fan boy. You should be embarrassed of yourself
Its always funny seeinf the diferenr views on lebron from Coaches players and teammates from different era Compared to random internet lebron haters who have no idea what there talkifn about 😂 Because what internet trolls say don't match with what many coaches players and teammates say
@@imanamerican553 Lebron is controlling the mainstream medias in the nba and everybody is licking his ass. But don't worry once this bum retires, tongues will start to untie. Have you listened to Horry criticizing Lebron after the game, he was apologizing to dare even critizice him, which is just ridiculous.
I got a top ten list, took me all of two seconds to compile and no LeBronze in sight. Larry, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Russell, Duncan, Shaq, Steph and Dr. J
Until now, the people of the Basketball world is still looking and searching for the "Next Michael Jordan" not for the next Lebron... Proof that Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T...
I'm a Cavs fan, from Ohio. LeBron won my team a chip, something I'll forever be grateful for. Love the guy but he just doesn't have what it takes to be the GOAT.
Because he's one of the most skilled and talented players to ever play the game He's had the greatest playoff performance in nba history and the greatest finals performance in nba history Lebron is a phenomenal player who is praised by coaches players teammates and rivals alike Maybe stop hating and acual have some knowledge
i love how you LeBron haters acting like you hate him so much but you guys at the same time you guys talking about him 24/7 and in reality you guys love him. he living rent free in ya delusional heads 😂😂
@@Kmonique27 we talk about lechump bec3he keeps making an ass of himself no other reason aight nobody concerned about leclown other than lebron's obsessed fan like yourself
@@Kmonique27 we keep mentioning him because he keeps making an ass of himself no other reason an adult doesn't obsess over another man like how your doing
And he wanna complain that he got no help?..it’s more like his teammates got No help cuz his ass still walking back after he makes a turnover..smh..LEQUIT
Never seen a comment section filled with this amount of LeBron haters (granted I don't roam media comment sections often enough). While a lot of them are valid takes, there are many, MANY takes that stem off of just hating the guy. It's crazy.
At 1:13 Lakers down by only 7 points in the 4th and he gave up, we all know a lot of players that would never do this i don't even have to mention MJ or Kobe. I can never see Arenas, T-Mac, Dirk or Paul Pierce giving up on a game like this one. Lebron can't be the GOAT he never was and never will be.
I can't think of anyone at all. Dominique, Barkley, Bird, Dr J, Magic, Kareem - that's the time to be fully engaged. From a basketball perspective, a player's perspective, this is the time to be locked in, and he's clocked out. #s don't determine greatness. This idea that if you stack the numbers high enough eventually you "pass" the greatest. This is a media construct, and it uses branding tactics to build a fan base, and eventually shout down and breed out dissent. The game has not just just taken back seat, but is in the back of the bus to the click bait articles, bets, star making, political pundits, branding, and advertising. Now we have entered the era of Bonny Prince Bronny. In an era where the talent in the US has never been higher, we are going to choke that out in favor of child celebrity. What a legacy, LeBron!
@@youaresoyou1072 Question: What do you think sells the NBA best. Saying the greatest to ever do it, retired 21 years ago, or are you gonna tell the braindead masses that don´t know any better that the Lebron is the GOAT? Look Lebron is/was a very talented player, BUT he just doesnt have the mental tuffness when the biggest games are on the line. The lack of effort and quitting when things arent going his way says it all. Plus the constent flabing with his arms when the other teams scores, and the shoulder shock when he scores are absolutely obnoxious.
@@perottosson5127 I completely agree. I’ve been saying lebron is overrated since 2012 man seriously. He was never special in my opinion. Never not in his whole career was he the best in the league. That’s where I stand with it 👍 glad people can see through the lie today but it’s long overdue to me.. people have a hard time thinking against what the machine presents to them as true. You know like how people follow religion and trust the government? Bunch of dummies but hey lebron sucks yes
@@youaresoyou1072 LeBron doesn't suck kid, he is literally regarded as a top 5 player in every analysist eyes (well except skip Bayless lol) can't say he is bad at the sport when he's averaging the same numbers he was doing in his prime. he is constantly averaging over 25+ for the past 10 seasons. and all-time greats like Jordan, Kobe, dirk, Duncan, Garnett, Kareem, magic, bird, Shaquille, Wilt, Jerry west. Weren't averaging the same numbers at LeBron's age, it's a huge margin and that what makes him special in my eyes. I don't hate Jordan in any way, but you guys make him look like a bad person.
4:00 and we're supposed to believe this quitting clown is a better teammate than MJ because he doesn't yell at teammates in practice... He just humiliates them on TV
@@imanamerican553 All the stats in the world are not enough to ever convince me Lebron is equal to Jordan, let alone better. Kobe was much better than Lebron. I would take Pippen over Lebron, in a heartbeat. It's sad hearing the stats support Lebron being the better player, but anyone who knows, knows that is not the truth. Stats can be deceiving, they can be manipulated as well. Lebron's stats being higher are a testimony of this. It's going to take someone a hell of a lot better than Lebron to dethrone Jordan, and when that person comes it will be obvious to all.
@@adjustableisland8806 1st all time points 1st playoff points 2nd finals points 4th all time assist 2nd playoff assist 2nd finals assist 30th all time rebounds 4th playoff rebounds 4th finals rebounds 8th all time steals 1st playoff steals 2nd finals steals 82nd all time blocks 11th playoff 17th finals 1st vorp all time (value over replacement) stat that estimates how many points a player contributes per 100 team possessions 2nd single season 1st playoff single season 2nd finals single season(in the top 20 11 of them are lebron and mj😭) 1st playoff 1st finals A stat that measures a player's impact on the game by calculating the change in the score (plus or minus) while each player is on the court 2nd all time +/- 1st playoff +/- -89 in the finals To be fair tho the warriors were an unstoppable force In a single regular season +/- Lebron is 4th and mj is 9th And scottie pippen 10th the rest of the top ten are gold state warriors 9 out of the top 15 are from the golden state warriors team Single playoff season +/- In the top ten 4 are from the golden state team and 3 are from lebron 1st stephen curry 2016-17 GSW 2nd draymond green 2016-17 GSW 3rd kobe bryant 2000-01 LAL 4th lebron 2015-16 CLE 5th Kevin durant 17-18 GSW 6th Ben wallace 2003-4 DET 7th lebron 2011-12 MIA 8th lebron 2016-17 CLE 9th David Robinson 1998-99 SAS 10th klay Thompson 2016-17 I'm not going to put finals or per game because those just have lots of people who didn't really play long time but instead came off the bench and made a 3 then sat back down WS (win shares) which is a statistic that estimates how many wins a player contributes to their team. Win Shares are based on a player's offensive and defensive contributions throughout the season, and are assigned as a "share" of the team's total wins for the season. Each win share a player earns represents one win contributed to the team's total record for the season. For example, if a team wins 60 games, there are 180 Win Shares to distribute among the players. Win Shares are intended to represent player value, rather than player ability. Some believe that credit should not be assigned purely based on team wins because team exceeding or falling short of its Pythagorean expectation is generally acknowledged as chance. 2nd all time 1st playoff 1st finals Single season regular season The top 8 is just wilt and Kareem besides george mican in 2nd in 1950💀 Lebron doesn't appear until 17 while mj has 9th 14th 16th Single season playoffs Top 15 1st tim duncan 2003 2nd lebron 2012 3rd Dirk 2006 4th lebron 2013 5th lebron 2018 6th nikola jokic 2023 7th kawhi Leonard 2019 8th lebron 200 see8 9th MJ 1998 10th Dwayne wade 2010 11th MJ 1991 12th Larry bird 1984 13th lebron 2016 14th Kareem 1974 15th mj 1996 Basketball reference doesn't have for finals OWS (offensive win shares) Win Shares are easily the best metric for evaluating the offensive play of a single player because it accounts for almost everything and scales the result so that one OWS is actually equal to one win added to the team's cause. Points Produced takes all facets of the offensive game into account: points scored, assists and offensive rebounds. Lebron is 1st all time 1st playoff all time 1st (regular + playoff) Single season regular season top 20 Mj 11 12 10 Lebron 20 Playoff single season Lebron is 1st 2nd 4th and 5th Dirk is 3rd Ast(assist percentage) 4th career all time 2nd playoff 4th (Regular + playoff) 2nd finals “He's not a winner” I personally don't use team statistics that much because I'm arguing for the greatest overall basketball player not team but lebron is 4th in all time wins(mj isn't in the top 20) 1st in playoff wins (mj is 13th) 19th in finals (mj 12th) Lebron 3rd (mj isnt in the top 25) (Regular + playoff) When talking about clutch, statistics tell a different story on who's the most th-cam.com/video/qjjW1l9KjXQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h7ZY2QJ97Vgk_SB2 I can keep going there is much more to mention
@adjustableisland8806 Lebron lead in every single stat in the 2016 nba finals(first tiem in nba history) Lebron average a triple double in the nba finals(first time in nba history) Lebron james james faced far greater competition in the finals comapred to mj The net efficiency of the team's lebron has faced are doubled tripled and even quadruple that of the team's mj faced in the finals And yall need to get rid of the motion thst 90s defence was some mythical defense that would lock down a 6'9 260 pound small forward Fouling≠degence pippen MJ and Rodman All struggled woth prototype 1 Garnett so what makes you think they could handle kd lebron steph kyrie and so on I've never heard a team mj faced say "we are gaurding him with 5 guys" Lebron james is the greatest basketball to ever play the game
@@adjustableisland8806 2018 lebron james in the playoffs had the greatest performance in nba history Lebron averaged 34.0 points, 9.1 rebounds and 9.0 assists in 22 game during the playoffs LeBron was unstoppable in the clutch. He was 5-of-6 (83%) on shots to tie or take the lead in the final minute of the 4th quarter, including 2 buzzer-beaters He outperformed two all stars while against the raptors he had 136 points 33 rebounds 45 assist 57-103 fg Demar derozan & Kyle Lowry 138 points 30 rebounds 46 assists 53-108 The Celtics were 37-0 all-time when up 2-0 in a 7-game series until lebron during the 7 game series lebron had 3 40+ games with a triple double LeBron James was everything for the Cavs. Only 40 times a player contributed to 50 or more points (points and assists) in a 2018 postseason game. LeBron was 17 of them. He played 22 postseason games. Lebron per rating in 2018 was also higher than any playoff run mj had in his career And at that time the top 20 for the highest per for a playoff run 6 of them were lebron james currently lebron holds 2 7 16 Mj is known for how clutch he is and during his career he's had 3 playoff buzzer beaters Lebron had 2 playoff buzzer beaters in a 10 day span LeBron had 8 40-point games in the 2018 postseason, the most by any player ever in a single postseason. Even more impressive - he shot over 50% in all 8 of these games. In two of these games he shot 70% from the field. Leading up to the Finals, LeBron faced elimination 3 times. In those games, LeBron went 3-0 and averaged 42 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists. In the 2018 playoffs LeBron had two times the amount of triple doubles than mj had in his entire career Yes, in 13 playoff runs, MJ had half the amount of triple-doubles as LeBron had in one. LeBron having 4 triple doubles and mj in his career having 2 LeBron was also 1 assist/rebound away from a triple-double 3 times. One Assist/Rebound Away: Game 6 vs. Boston: 46 points, 9 assists, 11 rebounds Game 7 at Boston: 35 points, 9 assists, 15 rebounds Game 2 at Golden State: 29 points, 13 assists, 9 rebounds It was a different NBA back then, but this is still amazing. 4 playoff triple-doubles is more than some of the NBA’s finest have in their entire career: The Cavaliers only made it the the nba playoffs because of lebron here's a quote from Shannon Sharpe “Not magic, Not Jordan, not Larry, Not Kevin durant, Not stephan curry - - even in the east - - No one in the history of the game, other than Lebron James, could of gotten this team to the Finals” The Cavaliers had the second worst defense in the entire league barely beating out the 21 wins sun's Leading up to the Finals, LeBron faced elimination 3 times. In those games, LeBron went 3-0 and averaged 42 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists. Lebron had the worst team possible and the year after he left the team didn't change one bit and this was there Record: 2017-18 (with LeBron): 50-32 (61% winning percentage) 2018-19 (without LeBron): 19-63 (23% winning percentage) Finished: 2017-18 (with LeBron): Eastern Conference Champions, NBA Finals appearance 2018-19 (without LeBron): 14th in the East, missed playoffs Points Per Game: 2017-18 (with LeBron): 110.9 (5th of 30) 2018-19 (without LeBron): 104.5 (29th of 30) Offensive Rating: 2017-18 (with LeBron): 112.9 (5th of 30) 2018-19 (without LeBron): 107.7 (25th of 30) This is one of many examples of LeBron doing more with less
I dont know what to say maybe he shoulds have done that and tried to play ball, he also felt though that his teammates were lackluster and unmotivated himself
its crazy because you managed to find 7 clips over 21 years of him quitting on his team, and most of them aren't even him quitting on his team its just so bad iq plays. its crazy what people will do to hate on lebron these days, mainly on youtube.
James is trash. The most entitled, lazy player ever. So much potential and skill, true. No doubt. He just doesn't have that mindset of Jorden, Kobe, Bird - the greats. He doesn't have it.
A few things: I didn't make this video. I found it a while ago and had a hunch it would get taken down at some point, so I saved it. Sure enough it disappeared so as promised I put it back.
The reason I post this is because the tiresome "greatness debate" which basketball has mutated into has devolved into simplistic numerical comparison, and ignores the more important aspects of team basketball, character, and motivation.
This video is not hate, it is a critique of leadership in tough situations. If they put the debate down, i love the guy. But if you're going to argue greatness, you can't overlook this.
This popped in my recommended 😂
Unfortunately, for the past 5+ years, all LeBron has cared about is padding his stats. It is obvious on wide-open plays where a teammate will pass it to LeBron just for LeBron to pass it back for the assist. It is obvious when the rest of the team stands around so LeBron can get an uncontested rebound. It is obvious when in garbage minutes, a teammate with an easy layup will instead pass it to LeBron so he can brick a 3. It is obvious when his teammates on offense will allow LeBron to switch defender matchups just so he can be paired with the smallest man on the opponent's team.
@@kennethking2301 exactly right.
@@kennethking2301 I disagree. He's been this way for over 10 years.
@@kennethking2301 DITTO!
Espn cut ties with all of the commentators who criticized lebron. Bless those true soldiers for keeping it 💯
Jeff Van Gundy was the only one calling out LeQuitter on his flopping.
LeBron James is a toxic teammate. His 4 rings are a testaments to how good his teammates were and how much crap they had to put up with.
@@tmacman0418 how is he toxic in any sort of way? im pretty interested in your take, so give me your thoughts.
@@Kmonique27 His body language whenever things don't go his way shows he's toxic. Instead of galvanizing his teammates and showing true leadership he pushes to get them traded. What kind of leader is that?
@@tmacman0418 true, but if you want to play professional basketball, then you have to be pushed to your limits. Lebron is just being hard & stern on them because if you cant develop a talent then you need to sit out. teammate wise, not the best. But if this was based on carrying a trash team wise, then his leadership is exquisite.
In terms of his personality, he’s closer to Pippen than he is to Jordan.
Yep.
Agree
He is a modern day pippen without the defense and using super teams to get cheap rings
@@MikeBNumba6 Pippen never quit on his team. When he didn't go back in the game in '94 he was mad at Phil not his team. No other incidents like that ever happened after that one.
@@bos3835 Pippen did quit and he was pouty. Also the migraine game or taking half the season off when he could have gotten treatment for his injuries in the offseason.
Pippen's issues fly under the radar because he wasn't the team leader like Lebron
The moment you find out LeBron is a fraud everything starts to make sense
How is lebron a fraud? Are you saying that A few clips of lebron lowlights define 21 years of greatness?
@@imanamerican55321 years of constant bitching*😂
@@yoitsSmitty2004yall act like players don't complain about the game all the time in every single sport
I swear yall lebron haters are some really interesting individuals
@@yoitsSmitty2004 so reminding the ref to make a right call is bitching now? what a joke. can't stand you LeBron haters, pathetic fanbase, full of clowns and narcissists. 😂😂
If Lebron is a fraud, you're not even worth a spit
I just don’t see how a human could watch Jordan and lebron play and think Lebron is the better player. It’s insane to me that people think that. Watching Jordan play is like watching poetry in motion. Watching Lebron play is really nothing special. I just don’t see what these people see in Lebron that makes them think he’s the goat.
Stats obsessed people. Bron's stat padding because he knows his quality of work don't hold. He can only rely on straight numbers due to his longevity.
It’s pretty rare someone is a lebum fan plays basketball in his/her real life. And commend someone ‘moves like lebum’ in street courts would definitely piss them off
@@footballgodismessilouis5889 💯🤣
@@tigerwong9845 💯
He is the Chosen One that's all his fans know. Half of them don't actually watch sports they thought they were being inclusive to Next and I thought so at one point. A long long time ago. His play drove me away from liking him, then all the other BS drama that comes with him didn't help
“Such a Great Teammate”. They’ve lied about LeBubble his whole career.
Yall watch some clips and then use it to judge 21 years of playing basketball 😂
It's funny how trolls veiws on lebronnare so different from coaches and players and teammates have said about him Over the years
That’s because they kiss his ass lol the commentators that call him out get canned and they were coaches lol he been toxic since Miami and his juicing days lol wipe your mouth when ur done
@@imanamerican553 The countless times bro has left his team 4v5, left games before they end when he's going to lose, sat 30 chairs away from his teammates when he's in his feels. It ain't trolling. It's calling what we see. The only people whoever say he's a leader are media and fanboys.
@@imanamerican553bruh, are you serious? This is the honest truth whether you accept it or not. LeBron carries and travels more than I've ever seen in ANY kind of basketball outside of thr 7-8 year olds league. LeBron was propped up and was made to be believed thar he is better than he actually is, he literally needs a super team to win. What's GOAT about that? Now he's trying to get KD, sad bruh.
@alfuller1332
I always find it funny when coaches, nba legends, nba superstars, and players lebron has played with and against throughout the nba say things completely different from what you guys call the "truth"
"Being propped up by the nba" doesn't make you magically have the greatest playoff and finals performances in nba history
"He literally needs a superteam to win"
Mj had a 10% win rate in the playoffs without pippen
lebron has shown that he's capable of winning without a superteam
I swear yall lebron haters just live making shit up🤣😭
Getting a great player on your team is sad now?? I swear yall lebron haters are now hating on lebron for trying to get a good teamate💀
Generational talent. Generational quitter.
Self-proclaimed GOAT, btw
How is he a quitter
And it's not self proclaimed many people from multiple era have said he's the greatest
Yall are just haters
@@imanamerican553buddy get his meat out you’re mouth when you’re done😂 dudes a selfish bum😂
@@imanamerican553oh yeah? What about blowing a 20 point lead? 😂
@@imanamerican553you’re asking how Lebron James is a quitter when you just watched a 7 minute compilation of him quitting?
You Lebron fans are the same as the t community.
@TonySiragusa99 right. 7 mins out of 20+ years of high level basketball. Folks love to hate anyone for anything.
THIS is the guy who gets compared to Jordan lol???
And gets routinely placed over Kobe on that all time ladder
@@dioc60hes better than kobe lol
He’s better at being a sore loser 😂
Jordan never quits. Even when he was sick, he still gave it his all.
@@dioc60 Kobe not even top 3
Kobe would never, Jordan would never
Dude should retire, all he's been doing is clocking that 27-7-7 and taking his vitamins.
I do know that Lebrick never raped anyone
@@FamousOriginalSlimwhen you say vitamins, you really mean "PEDs" right? 😂
@@VforVengeance159 I'm 100% certain that his amazing strength, healing ability, and longevity is the product of clean living and a million dollars a month at GNC
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Larry bird would never. Bill russell would never and we can go on and on
If I was a coach and I saw someone just giving up on a play like LeBron I would immediately bench him. That's pathetic effort.
LeCoach is the one in charge . He gives up or leaves if he dosnt get his way. He’s a baby
Not when it’s lebron james
Then youd get fired unfortunately. Lebron has more power than any coach
I've watched LeBron miss enough uncontested layups to comfortably conclude that he is not the greatest player of all time
And clank jump shots off the side of the backboard and also dribble the ball of his foot like an 8 year old. He's pathetic.
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've read it's obvious you don't watch of play basketball or have any knowledge surrounding basketball
@@tmacman0418you lebron haters are so pathetic 😂
@@imanamerican553 you’re under every comment on this video, you need to touch grass
@@imanamerican553 You can't even argue with my points. Admit it, your king sucks.
Comparing LBJ to Jordan is severely disrespectful towards MJ.
While incredibly talented from a god gifted perspective, these clips alone exclude lebron james from ever being in the conversation of best all time.
What’s his talent besides size? He is a below average shooter, below average ball handler, poor footwork, poor leadership, poor sportsmanship, zero mentoring ability, doesn’t play elite defense, egotistical so never improved on his flaws because it’s everyone’s else’s fault.
I keep hearing for 21 years about his talent, IQ, clutchness etc but when I watch his games for 21 years I just don’t see skill, IQ or clutchness. I see an aided athlete with help of something, allegedly, good passer definitely, but I do not see this great skill they keep pounding in our heads. Where is this greatest IQ in the finals? Where is this greatest talent in the finals? Where is the greatest clutchness in the finals/playoffs as a whole? Where is the dominance?
They keep telling me all these things and I’ve been waiting 21 years to see it.
💯 my friend, LeBron fans live in a different reality. I can’t think of any other explaination
@snakebitten6967 it's not about you waiting 21 years to see the person people are talking about
It's yiu thing lwbron and refusing to see the person people are talking about
Every superstar needs help every nba superstar is a human being capable of making mistakes and having games were they underperformed
But to you lebron haters you only hyperfocuse on the bad things about lebron nd refuse to see the good
Lebron is an incredible passer and an incredible shooter
Lebron has a better 3 point and true shooting percentage than mj in the regular season playoffs and finals
Lebron has good ball handling skills by no means is it average
"Poor footwork" I'm pretty sure this is just you throwing shit out there 😂
"Never improved on his flaws"
This statement alone shows you don't have any basketball knowledge at all and are simply a lebron hater
You don't see the skill in 21 years really?
Lebron has the greatest playoff performance and finals performances in nba history
Lebron in multiple playoff runs accounted for half his teams points(points and assists)
@@damboultonno you lebron haters just refuse to see what's in your face and choose to hyperfocus on the bad
@@imanamerican553You’re watching a 7min document on how bad of a leader he is and you’re talking about refusing to see what’s in your face, isn’t that ironic? Ball handling skills? Is that why he has so much travelling and carrying complilations in yt alone? He’s in a league that follows a different set of rules from the basketball that everybody knew for years. Better 3 point shooting? By making 2 out of 5 shots? If you can only read stats that the media shows you, it sure looks good. And Lebron has the greatest playoff performances in NBA history? Sure. Is that why he only has won 4 rings in 21 years?
Sharpe bringing up Washington like Jordan had an actual team there and he wasn’t injured. Jordan was still throwing up 40 point games on Washington and never quit on defense or effort despite his team being bad and have a bad injury. The amount of mental gymnastics people make for LeBalco is wild.
100% the shit is crazy.
Sorry, but 39 Bron is far superior to 39 Jordan, not even debatable
@@AlanRR121 stat wise they are pretty close actually.
@@Arigato-Mister-RobotoNo their not 🤡
@@AlanRR121 It's inequitable to compare 39 year old MJ to 39 year old Lebron. Jordan, as a Wizard, was plagued with injuries from day one...broken ribs, back spasms, severed tendon in his right index finger, tendinitis in his knees and wrist...fluid had to be drained from his knee regularly due to severe swelling! Yet, despite being injury-riddled and playing on a subpar team, he still put up comparable numbers to Lebron that first year in Washington (prior to his meniscus tear)...unlike James though, he gave maximum effort on BOTH ends of the court, without an AD level player beside him. Additionally, Jordan's shots were mainly from the mid-range and heavily contested, Lebron's shots are mostly uncontested lay-ups or uncontested 3 pointers, most of his shots coming from within 3 feet of the basket. Context matters, clearly not to you but it matters to most people.
And that’s why Lebron isn’t the Goat. Also too much hype when he screws up and hates on his teammates for failing him.
A few clips from across 21 years doesn't define 21 years of playing basketball 😂
It's funny seeing you a internet troll with zero basketball knowledge and who is using an account dedicated to hating lebron as proof has to say
Vs
Coaches, players, teammates, superstars and nba legends have to say about lebron
Can you give me some examples of LeBron hating his teammates for screwing up
Greatest stat chaser
@@imanamerican553you gonna keep 🍆🚴♂️?
He literally plays like he in high school and even a real high school coach would sub him out for these type of plays IDC what ur name say on the back of the jersey but not this guy. Anybody who says otherwise ain't never played a game before other than 2k
Exactly what I was going to type.. I just watched this guy in the one offensive set break all the basic rules of floor spacing including dribbling towards the corner, drawing 3 defenders to his man there, telegraphing the pass and then leaving the ground for no reason to make the pass. And then when the guy fumbled the ball because he had 3 defenders crowded around him that the jackass brought over to him, the jackass gets angry at him and refuses to run back on D. I was pro for over a decade and a coach for another 15 years after that, I've coached many 14 year old's with higher ball IQs than LeBron lol
As a long time Lakers fan I can't watch them or cheer for them till he is gone. He is not it for us L.A natives an Lakers fans .
I share this sentiment. LBJ is such a weanie, he’s hurting the legacy of the franchise.
@@TeezyfolKKz facts
Nice to know I’m not alone in this. He’s ruining the franchise and basketball as a whole.
I was pissed when it was announced he was coming to LA shit show ever since
Same waiting for him and his fans to be gone.
LeBron James is a toxic teammate. His 4* rings are a testament to how good his teammates were and how much crap they had to put up with. (* asterist is for the bubble ring)
3....bubble rings dont count.
@@Janaesp12yeah because you said so? 😂
Its in the record books no natter how much you whine and cry about it lol
@@Janaesp12 You're right, he only has 3 legit championships, that bubble ring don't count.
@@Janaesp12 bubble ring counts for 2 actually
@@CommonSenseWarrior37 LMFAO
dont know how anyone has the nerve to put him in the same breath as the real 23
Only casuals ride his jockstrap and make excuses for him.Anybody that watched true superstars win titles know that Lebron has no heart.Never see any “star” whine as much as him.
DITTO. LESWEPT 👎👎
@@jerrylattimore9232 Jordan got swept multiple times bro.
@@Brandon_Jacob98 BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THAT BUM LESWEPT. DIDN'T HE JUST GET SWEPT LIKE YESTERDAY'S GARBAGE.
@@Brandon_Jacob98 NOT AS MANY TIMES AS THE LOSER WHO JUST GOT SWEPT LIKE YESTERDAY'S GARBAGE.
😂😂 Nick Wright ready with an excuse…
Dat Klutch money speaking
Klutch giving him top
Is this that GOAT everyone talking about? 😂
@@trinalewis6489 🤣
That guy is so obnoxious
Trash human; wildly overrated player.
And Shannon Sharpe, Perkins, and the rest of the LeBron apologists, such an embarrassment.
How is lebron overrated? He's the best playerbto ever play the game
@@imanamerican553no he’s not so stop d riding, dudes a quitter and a whiner and this postseason is proving it
trash human 😂😂😂 Sure, say he's not a good basketball player (even tho im sure you can't even dribble w your left hand), but trash human???😂🤡
I’m by no means a lebron fan, but this is an outrageous take. Props to you for using proper grammar, though
@mcfeld7813 it's not outrageous he's had the greatest playoff and finals performances
He's faced far greater teams in he playoffs
His skill and leadership abilities are next level and in some year accounting for nearly half to over half his teams points in playoff runs
Never forget this man has “the chosen one” tattooed on himself 😂😂😂
21 years of underachieving, failed super teams, excuses, scapegoating, crying and choking. Please never retire lefraud
I just don't know why LeBron was in the GOAT debate period
Lebum and his agent Rich Paul came up with that GOAT mess after the 2016 NBA Finals. A Finals that was stolen from Golden State. Suspending Draymond, Bogut getting injured, Lebum flopping and getting foul calls to go their way, etc.
His inflated and padded stats, that's it. It takes way more then stats to be the best, Jordan was a great leader and teammate, pushed those around him to be their best and always showed up in the biggest moments.
I've been watching the NBA since the very early 80s. I've never seen MJ, Bird, Kobe, Barkley, Miller, Ewing, etc do that.
The ENTIRE LEAGUE should vote LeBron OFF the NBA ISLAND.
facts
LeBum bringing new meaning to "Letting the game come to him"
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Just ONE reason he will never be the GOAT. Period.
He is the goat tho 💯😂🤣.
@@oni_vergil7342 keep doing 720s on it bro😂😂
this yall goat? 😂😂
not even close 😂😂😂
he's a sheep
the definition of goat in terms of lebron means "Go On Another Team"
Dat my goat
This guy could never be the Goat.
Extended his legacy to make it worse.
Thats why there’s no chemistry in the Lakers team. Imagine having a leader like that!! Doesn’t make his teammates better and always needs trades!! The deer 🦌
I always find it hilarious when lebron haters show a clip or two and use it to prove that lebron has no leadership skills over 4 years
@@imanamerican553”clip or two” buddy there’s MULTIPLE clips on lebron being a terrible leader😂 quit being deluded
It’s hard to follow orders that the leader himself is not willing to do.
@yoitsSmitty2004 and there are far more games(not cherry-picked clips) and interviews with coaches, teammates, players, who argue against you(a random internet troll with zero basketball knowledge)
@@WitNest.. I'm sure those few clips dictate 21 years of playing basketball
This is well done, but just starts to scratch the surface.
LeBaby giving up when things get tough goes back to the eastern conference semi finals in 2008 against the Celtics
Lebron accounted for over half his teams points in the 2008 playoffs(points and assist)
And I'm sorry can you exsplain to me how dropping 45-5-6 in game 7 equals to giving up? Lebron created 60 out of 92 points from Cleveland
Any coach, player, franchise that lebron has faced all tell completely different views on lebron than what yall trolls say 😂
what happened in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2017, 2018? answer the question troll. 😂😂
@@Kmonique27 me?
@@imanamerican553Lebron averaged over 5 turnovers a game on 35-23-75 shooting splits.
Game one from the field 2-18 (11%) 0-6 from three (0%) 10 turnovers
Game two 6-24 (25%) 0-4 from three( 0%) 7 turnovers
Game three 5-16 (31%) 3-5 (60%) 2 turnovers
Game four 7-20 (35%) 2-5 from three (40%) 4 turnovers
Game five 12-25 (48%) 0-5 from three (0%) 4 turnovers
Game six 9-23 (39%) 1-3 from three (33%) 8 turnovers
Game seven 14-29 (48%) 3-11 (27%) 2 turnovers
36% of his series points came from the line.
He played like hot garbage. In that last game he shot an abysmal 14-19 from the line. Meaning that 31% of his points were because of phantom free throws.
@@imanamerican553 And coaches, players, and franchises all tell completely different views on Jordan than what you liars and trolls say.
This lebron being goat crap started with nick wright. and he proposed the question just to gain views.
Jordan never said he was the best. The world told him he was the best, and we never gave lebron that title. Especially after 2011.
All the times i was mad at lakers fans for hating on the idea of lebrons jersey retirement in staples center,now i see why they hate him so much
You have no idea what you're talking about plz just shut up
People need to stop calling him Goat
Lebron james is the goat
He's the greatest overall player to ever play the game and that's undeniable
@@imanamerican553 lies
@@imanamerican553 "When you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes truth"
Where is the proof that lebron is goat?
@@imanamerican553 keep yapping
@alfasiger4178 lebron has the greatest playoff/finals performances in nba history
He's overall the best basketball player
Michael Jordan still chase down BLOCK from his own TO at age 40. He retired because he noticed he can no longer able to keep up that kind of energy.
Lebron on the other hand keep playing with no energy , he keep playing just to extend his stats and career.
This isn't even close to being true yall are so stupid it hurts
Mj had 8 40 plus games with the wizards and 0 triple doubles with a shooting percentage of .416 in 2002 and .445 in 2003
Lebron has had 8 40 plus games in his last two years with 6 triple doubles with a .500 in 2022-23 season and a .540 this season
A few clips doesn't show an entire season yall lebron haters are slow af 😂
and lebron still had more chasedown block than jorbum in his entire career lmal
@@aamen1534 Where is your prove? I don't think there is a stats on chase down count.
@@imanamerican553 While getting bounced out by a 'plumber' who doesn't have another all star, while your king has a top 5 player.. Even with the help of the association, he can't make his load managing flopping ass to the playoffs.. A Lejock sniffer who presents emojis instead of context should better about being slow af
How many excuses do we need to make for LeFlop? Sure, MJ made some mistakes here and there, but I never saw that man quit. This video alone shows JUST A FEW of the times he quits. Even his body language alone shows how much of a quitter he is. No doubt he’s talented, but not a GOAT… it’s really not that close either.
It's actually really close, and to many, they see it as LeBron has already surpassed mj(I'm in that group)
Old heads only focus on lebron mistakes and put the blame entirely on him and don't even bother to look at the things he's accomplished
@@imanamerican553 like crying?
@@imanamerican553 Probably because you have never seen MJ play in person lmao. These "old heads" have seen both and LeBron loves to cry and flop. When LeBron wins playoffs he wants to shake the other teams hands and sh*t and when he loses he just leaves like a crybaby. He wants to switch teams when they start losing and try to recruit star players to help him win.
@@normanlauron4102 no smooth brain
@XxAiku2304xX you don't watch basketball
And the old heads that say this shit don't watch basketball nor do they have any basketball knowledge
Even mj himself is capable of giving credit to lebron skill something yall smooth brain fucks can't do
Look at the negative body language he always displays. Excellent way to instill confidence in your teammates 😂
Imagine what money has exchanged hands for this HUGE false narrative to have a life. This narrative is an entire industry of its own.
“It’s just basketball”
And they call this child the goat? Nonsense.
Why? He's had the best finals and playoffs performances
@@imanamerican553 lies
@@theorush6507 yup his extreme fans have to lie because they know MJ is secretly the goat because they know LeBron ain't got no real handles, ain't got no post up moves, his dunks are basic, ain't got no finesse, no lateral movement, no defense, always mysteriously gets injured when can't cut it, he's boring and relies more into bore into you in brute strength 😆
@@vgrg7841 2009 LeBron would dog your black Jesus, also not to mention that LeBron has a higher 3pt% then Jordan. Jordan couldn't even make one 3 to save his life. 😂😂
@@vgrg7841 Jordan couldn't even use his left if he had too, all he did was bring the ball down and yelled at the refs. literally it was hot garbage watching MJ play. then you guys override that overrated free-throw dunk like it was some type of superhuman abilities, NO kid. that's all y'all know MJ for, and it's making me wonder if MJ fans are nothing but causal delusional fans that try to act different, or a bunch salty miserable old heads who have nothing better to do and wants to hate on a grown 39-year-old that was playing better at Jordans age and even averaging the same numbers as his prime self in 2009-2018. appreciate greatness while you can, cause when he retires what are you going to do? want to hate on the man, but he's the reason why you narcissistic old heads feel better about yourself. he is living rent free in your mind 24/7, and that what makes you guys interesting. 21 years and he is still soaring in the air like he's back in his first stint for the cavaliers. appericate greatness while you can.
If this is how LeBron behaves, imagine how his son will be.
Judgemental Af not all kids behave like they parents
The guy in the audience making 60,000 a year must have shook him again. 😂😂
Hey at the end of the day...😅
TRUTH: Softie players, including fake goat Queeny LeBronze medalist James, would have had their career destroyed or KILLED; if they played in the 80's to 90's
2 months old and already needs an update 😂😂😂 that LeBalco infamous mentality is fierce
This video should be 20 years long!!!
This the dude yall want to lead the USA team😂😂😂
Man hogging all that glory
@@FamousOriginalSlimmad crazy. He’ll mess around be the reason USA doesn’t get the gold medal. Especially if he’s starting.
@@TeezyfolKKz He didn't wait an hour after the young ones lost to throw them under the bus and say "daddy got this"
You gotta let these kids redeem themselves you can't just let them eat that shame. That's some bad shit.
@@FamousOriginalSlim yep. Notice the nba fraternity didn’t do that to the 2 teams that won bronze. They just called Kobe. Lol
@@TeezyfolKKz Dream Team was always overkill reaction. 84 Olympics - Ewing, Mullin, Jordan, Person, Perkins - peak.
88 - dropoff...one missed gold and we pressed the panic button.
I liked it better when we were sending college kids. Kept. our culture strong.
Now we're making cartoons.
You know something's wrong when there's a whole 7 minute long video of clips of you showing 0 effort.
And ppl will look at the score n say why is he in the game ? Stat padding attempts sometimes go wrong...here we are. 😅
5:54 nick: “but but my hubby broke his..hold on hold on”
Lebron throwing up his hands after the suns score at 0:40 while pouting and not getting back on defense and laughable 😂
RIP KOBE this is what we are left with. The greatest lie ever told in sports is lebron james
Enlighten them will you. SWEEP SEASON 🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹
Howbia lebron ths greatest lie wdym when you say that?
@@deandresteeleel1583kd and lebron have over 170 points together the rest of the Lakers have less than 140
kobe's last 6 years were spent at the bottom of the standings lmaooo thats what he left you with, a poverty franchise and lebron had to come revive it with your stoopid ssa
The game has gotten soft since they made Lebum the face of the league. SWEEP SEASON 🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹
LeToddler
You're a internet troll😂
LOL!!!!
I feel sorry for him his whole career he's been this way because everyone believed he was the future chosen one thinking he didn't need no help trying to make him better than Mike and Kobe
The heart of a poodle😅😅😅😅
A few clips don't define 21 years smooth brain
@@imanamerican553 but being a quitter and being full of excuses definitely does bron baby mama
@@6aliph77 you lebron haters are pathetic
@@imanamerican553 you lebron gawkers are pathetic
@@imanamerican553 you me*t riders are pathetic
And it's always someone else's fault...
It's one-thing to quit it's another to then stand there looking at your teammates disapprovingly as if they screwed-up.
My biggest question is if he always throws his teammates under the bus why has none of them made a scene when it’s his fault for lack of effort? I just remembered when Ingram or Kuzma pushed him in the back to make him run the court and get back then how they all got traded that offseason 😂 damn answered my own question
You didn't at all but keep being delusional
@@imanamerican553wdym?? Kuzma literally pushed lebron to play some defense
@SoWhat- he didn't plz stop believing in every narrative you hear that fits your argument yall Cleary know nothing about basketball and it shows mj stand are by far the worse thing in the basketball community even worse than steph kobe and lebron stand out together
@@imanamerican553 th-cam.com/video/imQyd09A9P0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pUb2WToc0Ena3Xii
@@imanamerican553 i'm not a stan of any man, but clearly you're new to basketball. There's the link of kizma pushing your boyfriend. You're clearly a delusional LeBron fan boy. You should be embarrassed of yourself
who would want to play with and for a leader with such a lazy ass and then blaming his teammates ... the worst team leader in nba history
Its always funny seeinf the diferenr views on lebron from Coaches players and teammates from different era
Compared to random internet lebron haters who have no idea what there talkifn about 😂
Because what internet trolls say don't match with what many coaches players and teammates say
@@imanamerican553 Lebron is controlling the mainstream medias in the nba and everybody is licking his ass. But don't worry once this bum retires, tongues will start to untie. Have you listened to Horry criticizing Lebron after the game, he was apologizing to dare even critizice him, which is just ridiculous.
Came for comment section, was not disappointed 😂
LeBron had more success quitting on his team than winning championships.
What? Lmao people just like to comment without thinking lol
@@victordelacruz4449what u mean he speaking facts🤷🏾♂️
@@victordelacruz4449he has 4 rings… how many times did he quit on his team in this video alone? More than 4
Is that what y’all call a Goat? Nah that’s not the mentality of a G.O.A.T 🤷♀️
If somebody has to try to argue to prove and defend LeFlop’s greatness by using Wizards years MJ in comparison.….bruh, stop it. Get some help.
Lebron is not even a top 10 player.
Are you serious
hot take, but I like it
I got a top ten list, took me all of two seconds to compile and no LeBronze in sight. Larry, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Russell, Duncan, Shaq, Steph and Dr. J
@@FinnSwede906your just wrong bruh, I’m not even a LeBron fan as I’m a die hard warriors fan but this is stupid 😂
@@King-eg2zlYeah, Dr. J and Steph could be replaced by Hakeem and Wilt, still no sign of LeBrenda
Until now, the people of the Basketball world is still looking and searching for the "Next Michael Jordan" not for the next Lebron... Proof that Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T...
I am so sorry for Austin Reeves's career. He's the only one on the Lakers the seems to want to win.
I will never get why people think this guy is the best ever
Yeah give it up to the GOAT LEBRON AKA LEQUITTER
And some people believe him when he says he's the GOAT...
The GOAT would never stop playing mid game like that.
LBJ not using his IQ. His EQ is a suspect when you can’t control your frustrations like that.
Room temperature IQ
So we're not gonna talk about when he carried scrubs to the 2018 finals? 😂
JR Smith and Richard Jefferson are great.
The Hatorade in this comment section is so, so sad to look at
I'm a Cavs fan, from Ohio. LeBron won my team a chip, something I'll forever be grateful for. Love the guy but he just doesn't have what it takes to be the GOAT.
True facts@Leanku
Tim Duncan would never do this.
Finally!
Why would anyone ever say this guy Is the goat ? Longevity wow
If we’re talking about longevity, my grandpa is the GOAT!
@arthurburgos5285
You're grandpa never played elite sport
Because he's one of the most skilled and talented players to ever play the game
He's had the greatest playoff performance in nba history and the greatest finals performance in nba history
Lebron is a phenomenal player who is praised by coaches players teammates and rivals alike
Maybe stop hating and acual have some knowledge
@@arthurburgos5285you don't watch basketball
@imanamerican553 the video clearly shows the greatest at quiting also. Dude about to get swept bye bye 😂😂😂
When they put his statue up in akron..its gonna be him standing there with his arms out..palms up complaining.
LePalm Blames
Dude has the emotional maturity of a 13 yo
Lebum is at best in top 15
And this is the best player??? Ridiculous
Yes he is the greatest player to ever play the game
i love how you LeBron haters acting like you hate him so much but you guys at the same time you guys talking about him 24/7 and in reality you guys love him. he living rent free in ya delusional heads 😂😂
@@Kmonique27 we talk about lechump bec3he keeps making an ass of himself no other reason aight nobody concerned about leclown other than lebron's obsessed fan like yourself
@@imanamerican553 on which planet??? Planet delusional??
@@Kmonique27 we keep mentioning him because he keeps making an ass of himself no other reason an adult doesn't obsess over another man like how your doing
LeBron isn't even top 5 all time. He has a weak mind.
LeFraud Blames
So glad to hear LeBron being called out. But this was years ago :(
It's an old video.
@@FamousOriginalSlim "But this was years ago"
@@JustAWriter12 You can make one from this last series if you want.
@@FamousOriginalSlim nah the media don't do that anymore 😅 they just covering his ass
And he wanna complain that he got no help?..it’s more like his teammates got No help cuz his ass still walking back after he makes a turnover..smh..LEQUIT
In the playoffs against the nuggest lebron and ad make up over 170 points the rest of the entirelakers teams makes up less than 140
Never seen a comment section filled with this amount of LeBron haters (granted I don't roam media comment sections often enough). While a lot of them are valid takes, there are many, MANY takes that stem off of just hating the guy. It's crazy.
0:27 when it shows the replay and lebron chilling on the other side of the court
At 1:13 Lakers down by only 7 points in the 4th and he gave up, we all know a lot of players that would never do this i don't even have to mention MJ or Kobe. I can never see Arenas, T-Mac, Dirk or Paul Pierce giving up on a game like this one.
Lebron can't be the GOAT he never was and never will be.
I can't think of anyone at all. Dominique, Barkley, Bird, Dr J, Magic, Kareem - that's the time to be fully engaged.
From a basketball perspective, a player's perspective, this is the time to be locked in, and he's clocked out.
#s don't determine greatness. This idea that if you stack the numbers high enough eventually you "pass" the greatest.
This is a media construct, and it uses branding tactics to build a fan base, and eventually shout down and breed out dissent.
The game has not just just taken back seat, but is in the back of the bus to the click bait articles, bets, star making, political pundits, branding, and advertising.
Now we have entered the era of Bonny Prince Bronny. In an era where the talent in the US has never been higher, we are going to choke that out in favor of child celebrity.
What a legacy, LeBron!
TELL ME IS THAT YOUR GOAT?
I can't stand him being on my Lakers. He isn't fit to wear the jersey.
You might want to add the current series
people try to pretened this isn't what we're watching.
This is your GOAT 😂😂😂
IS THIS THE KING? 😂😂
Apparently
@@youaresoyou1072 Question: What do you think sells the NBA best. Saying the greatest to ever do it, retired 21 years ago, or are you gonna tell the braindead masses that don´t know any better that the Lebron is the GOAT? Look Lebron is/was a very talented player, BUT he just doesnt have the mental tuffness when the biggest games are on the line. The lack of effort and quitting when things arent going his way says it all. Plus the constent flabing with his arms when the other teams scores, and the shoulder shock when he scores are absolutely obnoxious.
@@perottosson5127 I completely agree. I’ve been saying lebron is overrated since 2012 man seriously. He was never special in my opinion. Never not in his whole career was he the best in the league. That’s where I stand with it 👍 glad people can see through the lie today but it’s long overdue to me.. people have a hard time thinking against what the machine presents to them as true. You know like how people follow religion and trust the government? Bunch of dummies but hey lebron sucks yes
@@youaresoyou1072 LeBron doesn't suck kid, he is literally regarded as a top 5 player in every analysist eyes (well except skip Bayless lol) can't say he is bad at the sport when he's averaging the same numbers he was doing in his prime. he is constantly averaging over 25+ for the past 10 seasons. and all-time greats like Jordan, Kobe, dirk, Duncan, Garnett, Kareem, magic, bird, Shaquille, Wilt, Jerry west. Weren't averaging the same numbers at LeBron's age, it's a huge margin and that what makes him special in my eyes. I don't hate Jordan in any way, but you guys make him look like a bad person.
@@Kmonique27 disregard everything I say man cause in all reality it’s just basketball. Even tho it’s the playoffs …..it’s just basketball…. 🤣🫵
4:00 and we're supposed to believe this quitting clown is a better teammate than MJ because he doesn't yell at teammates in practice... He just humiliates them on TV
I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw it.
How else was he supposed to his INDIVIDUAL accomplishment of 40,000 if he doesn’t give up on defense so he can get those cherry picking points
Lebron has the greatest playoff and finals performances in nba history
@@imanamerican553 All the stats in the world are not enough to ever convince me Lebron is equal to Jordan, let alone better. Kobe was much better than Lebron. I would take Pippen over Lebron, in a heartbeat. It's sad hearing the stats support Lebron being the better player, but anyone who knows, knows that is not the truth. Stats can be deceiving, they can be manipulated as well. Lebron's stats being higher are a testimony of this. It's going to take someone a hell of a lot better than Lebron to dethrone Jordan, and when that person comes it will be obvious to all.
@@adjustableisland8806
1st all time points
1st playoff points
2nd finals points
4th all time assist
2nd playoff assist
2nd finals assist
30th all time rebounds
4th playoff rebounds
4th finals rebounds
8th all time steals
1st playoff steals
2nd finals steals
82nd all time blocks
11th playoff
17th finals
1st vorp all time (value over replacement)
stat that estimates how many points a player contributes per 100 team possessions
2nd single season
1st playoff single season
2nd finals single season(in the top 20 11 of them are lebron and mj😭)
1st playoff
1st finals
A stat that measures a player's impact on the game by calculating the change in the score (plus or minus) while each player is on the court
2nd all time +/-
1st playoff +/-
-89 in the finals
To be fair tho the warriors were an unstoppable force
In a single regular season +/-
Lebron is 4th and mj is 9th
And scottie pippen 10th the rest of the top ten are gold state warriors
9 out of the top 15 are from the golden state warriors team
Single playoff season +/-
In the top ten 4 are from the golden state team and 3 are from lebron
1st stephen curry 2016-17 GSW
2nd draymond green 2016-17 GSW
3rd kobe bryant 2000-01 LAL
4th lebron 2015-16 CLE
5th Kevin durant 17-18 GSW
6th Ben wallace 2003-4 DET
7th lebron 2011-12 MIA
8th lebron 2016-17 CLE
9th David Robinson 1998-99 SAS
10th klay Thompson 2016-17
I'm not going to put finals or per game because those just have lots of people who didn't really play long time but instead came off the bench and made a 3 then sat back down
WS (win shares)
which is a statistic that estimates how many wins a player contributes to their team. Win Shares are based on a player's offensive and defensive contributions throughout the season, and are assigned as a "share" of the team's total wins for the season. Each win share a player earns represents one win contributed to the team's total record for the season. For example, if a team wins 60 games, there are 180 Win Shares to distribute among the players.
Win Shares are intended to represent player value, rather than player ability. Some believe that credit should not be assigned purely based on team wins because team exceeding or falling short of its Pythagorean expectation is generally acknowledged as chance.
2nd all time
1st playoff
1st finals
Single season regular season
The top 8 is just wilt and Kareem besides george mican in 2nd in 1950💀
Lebron doesn't appear until 17 while mj has 9th 14th 16th
Single season playoffs Top 15
1st tim duncan 2003
2nd lebron 2012
3rd Dirk 2006
4th lebron 2013
5th lebron 2018
6th nikola jokic 2023
7th kawhi Leonard 2019
8th lebron 200 see8
9th MJ 1998
10th Dwayne wade 2010
11th MJ 1991
12th Larry bird 1984
13th lebron 2016
14th Kareem 1974
15th mj 1996
Basketball reference doesn't have for finals
OWS (offensive win shares)
Win Shares are easily the best metric for evaluating the offensive play of a single player because it accounts for almost everything and scales the result so that one OWS is actually equal to one win added to the team's cause.
Points Produced takes all facets of the offensive game into account: points scored, assists and offensive rebounds. Lebron is
1st all time
1st playoff all time
1st (regular + playoff)
Single season regular season top 20
Mj 11 12 10
Lebron 20
Playoff single season
Lebron is 1st 2nd 4th and 5th
Dirk is 3rd
Ast(assist percentage)
4th career all time
2nd playoff
4th (Regular + playoff)
2nd finals
“He's not a winner” I personally don't use team statistics that much because I'm arguing for the greatest overall basketball player not team but lebron is
4th in all time wins(mj isn't in the top 20)
1st in playoff wins (mj is 13th)
19th in finals (mj 12th)
Lebron 3rd (mj isnt in the top 25) (Regular + playoff)
When talking about clutch, statistics tell a different story on who's the most
th-cam.com/video/qjjW1l9KjXQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h7ZY2QJ97Vgk_SB2
I can keep going there is much more to mention
@adjustableisland8806
Lebron lead in every single stat in the 2016 nba finals(first tiem in nba history)
Lebron average a triple double in the nba finals(first time in nba history)
Lebron james james faced far greater competition in the finals comapred to mj
The net efficiency of the team's lebron has faced are doubled tripled and even quadruple that of the team's mj faced in the finals
And yall need to get rid of the motion thst 90s defence was some mythical defense that would lock down a 6'9 260 pound small forward
Fouling≠degence
pippen MJ and Rodman
All struggled woth prototype 1 Garnett so what makes you think they could handle kd lebron steph kyrie and so on
I've never heard a team mj faced say "we are gaurding him with 5 guys"
Lebron james is the greatest basketball to ever play the game
@@adjustableisland8806 2018 lebron james in the playoffs had the greatest performance in nba history
Lebron averaged 34.0 points, 9.1 rebounds and 9.0 assists in 22 game during the playoffs
LeBron was unstoppable in the clutch. He was 5-of-6 (83%) on shots to tie or take the lead in the final minute of the 4th quarter, including 2 buzzer-beaters
He outperformed two all stars while against the raptors he had 136 points 33 rebounds 45 assist 57-103 fg
Demar derozan & Kyle Lowry 138 points 30 rebounds 46 assists 53-108
The Celtics were 37-0 all-time when up 2-0 in a 7-game series until lebron during the 7 game series lebron had 3 40+ games with a triple double
LeBron James was everything for the Cavs. Only 40 times a player contributed to 50 or more points (points and assists) in a 2018 postseason game. LeBron was 17 of them. He played 22 postseason games.
Lebron per rating in 2018 was also higher than any playoff run mj had in his career
And at that time the top 20 for the highest per for a playoff run 6 of them were lebron james currently lebron holds 2 7 16
Mj is known for how clutch he is and during his career he's had 3 playoff buzzer beaters
Lebron had 2 playoff buzzer beaters in a 10 day span
LeBron had 8 40-point games in the 2018 postseason, the most by any player ever in a single postseason. Even more impressive - he shot over 50% in all 8 of these games. In two of these games he shot 70% from the field.
Leading up to the Finals, LeBron faced elimination 3 times. In those games, LeBron went 3-0 and averaged 42 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists.
In the 2018 playoffs LeBron had two times the amount of triple doubles than mj had in his entire career
Yes, in 13 playoff runs, MJ had half the amount of triple-doubles as LeBron had in one. LeBron having 4 triple doubles and mj in his career having 2
LeBron was also 1 assist/rebound away from a triple-double 3 times.
One Assist/Rebound Away:
Game 6 vs. Boston: 46 points, 9 assists, 11 rebounds
Game 7 at Boston: 35 points, 9 assists, 15 rebounds
Game 2 at Golden State: 29 points, 13 assists, 9 rebounds
It was a different NBA back then, but this is still amazing. 4 playoff triple-doubles is more than some of the NBA’s finest have in their entire career:
The Cavaliers only made it the the nba playoffs because of lebron here's a quote from Shannon Sharpe
“Not magic, Not Jordan, not Larry, Not Kevin durant, Not stephan curry - - even in the east - - No one in the history of the game, other than Lebron James, could of gotten this team to the Finals”
The Cavaliers had the second worst defense in the entire league barely beating out the 21 wins sun's
Leading up to the Finals, LeBron faced elimination 3 times. In those games, LeBron went 3-0 and averaged 42 points, 11 rebounds, and 8 assists.
Lebron had the worst team possible and the year after he left the team didn't change one bit and this was there
Record:
2017-18 (with LeBron): 50-32 (61% winning percentage)
2018-19 (without LeBron): 19-63 (23% winning percentage)
Finished:
2017-18 (with LeBron): Eastern Conference Champions, NBA Finals appearance
2018-19 (without LeBron): 14th in the East, missed playoffs
Points Per Game:
2017-18 (with LeBron): 110.9 (5th of 30)
2018-19 (without LeBron): 104.5 (29th of 30)
Offensive Rating:
2017-18 (with LeBron): 112.9 (5th of 30)
2018-19 (without LeBron): 107.7 (25th of 30)
This is one of many examples of LeBron doing more with less
I dont know what to say maybe he shoulds have done that and tried to play ball, he also felt though that his teammates were lackluster and unmotivated himself
Disgrace the number 23
A true leader and role model! 🐐
The goat. (not the achronym! No, just the real animal! Just wondering on the court looking for food!)
Lebron, the greatest lazy of all time 😂😂😂.
The best complication of exposing LeBron’s weak and soft mentality.
its crazy because you managed to find 7 clips over 21 years of him quitting on his team, and most of them aren't even him quitting on his team its just so bad iq plays. its crazy what people will do to hate on lebron these days, mainly on youtube.
So many Jordashians in the comments lmao
James is trash. The most entitled, lazy player ever. So much potential and skill, true. No doubt. He just doesn't have that mindset of Jorden, Kobe, Bird - the greats. He doesn't have it.