Hadn't considered a possibility of someone not using curb strap on western bit til a couple years ago when I witnessed personally. Thought it was a once in a lifetime deal. Evidently it's a Thing. Thanks for clearing that issue up for those lost Souls out there. Always appreciate what you do and undoubtedly the help your getting to the horses.
I've been under the weather and watching all your videos because it's so comforting! You remind me so much of my late uncle who bred and raised horses. He even taught me similar things growing up! Thanks so much!
Great video. Something that many horse people need to hear is that the bit is only as good as the hands that use it. Sure there are bits that are more comfortable for the horse and some that have perfect balance too. But they are worthless if the rider has no feel or understanding of how to use it. I remember when I couldn't afford nice equipment. I still had a job to get done. I learned to use those $10 bits effectively. But regardless of your equipment, you need to be spending time with your mount. You can't expect to throw a new hunk of steel in their mouth and get some magical outcome just because it cost you $500. The same poor riding technique is still using it.... Pat gets great results because he has spent long hours astride working horses. If you expect similar results, you'll have to put in your time as well. Nothing comes easy....😮
First off thank you for sharing your knowledge. I love the curb strap video. Had a couple questions. One of them I think I found the answer on the Mule. I always loved the way what I call the flat hat cowboys, break and proceed thru the bit. I left Montana in the Late 90’s even there I didn’t not know many that practiced this way. I moved to Virginia, where it was like a Texas jackpot. Some outrageous ways of using a bit. The curb strap was seemed useless on so many of the bridals. You answered 2 of my 3 questions. The reason the missing link has the bars slightly bent. On the mule you showed me where the reins and curb were set in the rings. Had to debate that with other . Finally since you call it a missing link snaffle. I can guess it is bent in the middle the a copper cricket placed over it? I turn 70 this week I am 24 hour oxygen user. I know I won’t be riding again. I still like learning. Please feature more mules
I really like your missing link snaffle. One of my horses is a big blue roan with a big motor who really wants to go no matter how long or how far you’ve ridden. He used to have a hard time just taking a break and relaxing for very long without wanting to go again. I went back to your snaffle with that cricket or roller and it seemed to give him something to do and relax for awhile before wanting to go again. It’s a good bit.
I absolutely love your videos. I bought your missing link snaffle last year and I talk about it all the time on my social media page. I just made a video talking about bits the other day and I’ve been getting so many questions/compliments about the missing link ❤
My humor isn't very humorous... I appreciate you both ....$19.95 for not one but two sets ... Cowboys are Lazy , is a quote from Pat ... I agree .... Effective and Goal orientated is how I list it on an application 😂
Pat, I used the missing link to teach release on my 6 year old gelding. And I loved it. When he got good at it I went to a regular snaffle bit. Can I go on the the new western bit or do I need to go back to the missing link first? Thanks in advance
I guess I went to the regular snaffle because thats what my friends use. We live in West Texas and don’t see many hackamores. No particular reason per say. Doesn’t seem to Mind the broken snaffle. But I would like to progress to a western bit and I want to try your new bit.
@@BarronGuy-w5z There is no requirement to use the Missing Link Snaffle prior to Pat's Western Bit. I was just curious because regular broken snaffles work by collapsing onto the bars of your horse's mouth causing him to ball up his tongue in order to defend himself which also results in him bracing his jaw. So long as you've done your homework with regard to lateral work, you'll probably be fine with the new bit.
@@PatnDebPuckett I just wanted to ask. Been going through a lot of videos and just refreshing my mind on a lot of things. You forget a little after a while and hence the question above, will get my bridles sorted. Thank you.
Okay. I wanted to get Pat's input on Azteca horses. I know that you are a real fan of the Andalusian horse, but I have two very nice QH mares that I am thinking about breeding to a PRE stallion. Do you think this would be a good cross as compared to going straight Quarter Horse? Thanks
It depends on the quality of your mares and how the stallion stamps his offspring. If your mares are built uphill and the stallion is a good one, you should get good results. If your mares are downhill, don't waste your money. Also, be aware that Iberian horses and Aztecas will be good horses if you understand their temperament. The are completely unlike quarter horses. Some people don't get along with them. If you've watched our playlist on Chinaco, you'll see how Pat addresses his particular disposition without making it a fight. We like Iberian horses because they are basically born in collection but also because they are independent thinkers. Once they understand the job, they'll do it for you. If they don't understand it or you've made it a confrontational relationship, you'll both be miserable. Regarding straight quarter horses, we like the old foundation bloodlines like Driftwood, Hancock, and Blue Valentine in particular.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you for your prompt response. My mares were bred for working cattle as the first one I owned came from the Babbitt Ranch and had Driftwood and Dash For Cash bloodlines as well as less well-known bloodlines kind of exclusive to the Babbitt horses. I bred that mare to a grandson of Doc Bar and the mare I got from that cross is almost a spittin' image of that famous sire. She is pretty much level along the top line to my eye. I do live on the Navajo Reservation, and so would have access to some mustang/feral mares that are (some of them, anyway) descended from those Spanish horses. Might that be a better bet? Anyway, thanks for offering your knowledge on this topic as I am interested in that new Azteca breed. I believe that some of our horses are getting too closely inbred. Thanks, again.
@@clayoreilly4553 If your mares are level and have good bone and good minds, pick the one you like best and go for it. I don't know that I'd breed to a mustang. The disposition would be an unknown.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you again. I really do like working with young horses and the best way to do that is to have a new foal at your own place. They are a blessing.
@@sassy6292 when you pull back on the snaffle bit slack in the headstall happens, a single eared headstall without a throat latch can come off...try it in a controlled environment, notice the mechanics between the two set ups....
@@danfields3341 I’ve used a one ear bridle for well over a decade. Never has there been an issue. Perhaps it depends on the horse and the shape of its head or the quality of the bridle?
Hadn't considered a possibility of someone not using curb strap on western bit til a couple years ago when I witnessed personally. Thought it was a once in a lifetime deal. Evidently it's a Thing. Thanks for clearing that issue up for those lost Souls out there.
Always appreciate what you do and undoubtedly the help your getting to the horses.
I've been under the weather and watching all your videos because it's so comforting! You remind me so much of my late uncle who bred and raised horses. He even taught me similar things growing up! Thanks so much!
Great video.
Something that many horse people need to hear is that the bit is only as good as the hands that use it.
Sure there are bits that are more comfortable for the horse and some that have perfect balance too. But they are worthless if the rider has no feel or understanding of how to use it.
I remember when I couldn't afford nice equipment. I still had a job to get done. I learned to use those $10 bits effectively.
But regardless of your equipment, you need to be spending time with your mount. You can't expect to throw a new hunk of steel in their mouth and get some magical outcome just because it cost you $500. The same poor riding technique is still using it....
Pat gets great results because he has spent long hours astride working horses. If you expect similar results, you'll have to put in your time as well. Nothing comes easy....😮
1000%
First off thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I love the curb strap video. Had a couple questions. One of them I think I found the answer on the Mule. I always loved the way what I call the flat hat cowboys, break and proceed thru the bit. I left Montana in the Late 90’s even there I didn’t not know many that practiced this way. I moved to Virginia, where it was like a Texas jackpot. Some outrageous ways of using a bit. The curb strap was seemed useless on so many of the bridals. You answered 2 of my 3 questions. The reason the missing link has the bars slightly bent. On the mule you showed me where the reins and curb were set in the rings. Had to debate that with other . Finally since you call it a missing link snaffle. I can guess it is bent in the middle the a copper cricket placed over it?
I turn 70 this week I am 24 hour oxygen user. I know I won’t be riding again. I still like learning.
Please feature more mules
I really like your missing link snaffle. One of my horses is a big blue roan with a big motor who really wants to go no matter how long or how far you’ve ridden. He used to have a hard time just taking a break and relaxing for very long without wanting to go again. I went back to your snaffle with that cricket or roller and it seemed to give him something to do and relax for awhile before wanting to go again. It’s a good bit.
Hello from New York! Thank you for the video.
Cool 😎 thanks Pat
I absolutely love your videos. I bought your missing link snaffle last year and I talk about it all the time on my social media page. I just made a video talking about bits the other day and I’ve been getting so many questions/compliments about the missing link ❤
Love this video Pat!!!
Do the bit / cheek guess come in different colors ?
Praise God for you and your years of experience and passion to share your well of knowledge .
The bit guards come in whatever color that the scraps of leather you have laying around are!
My humor isn't very humorous...
I appreciate you both ....$19.95 for not one but two sets ...
Cowboys are Lazy , is a quote from Pat ...
I agree .... Effective and Goal orientated is how I list it on an application 😂
very good
Pat, I used the missing link to teach release on my 6 year old gelding. And I loved it. When he got good at it I went to a regular snaffle bit. Can I go on the the new western bit or do I need to go back to the missing link first? Thanks in advance
I guess I don't understand why you went back to a regular snaffle bit...
I guess I went to the regular snaffle because thats what my friends use. We live in West Texas and don’t see many hackamores. No particular reason per say. Doesn’t seem to Mind the broken snaffle. But I would like to progress to a western bit and I want to try your new bit.
@@BarronGuy-w5z There is no requirement to use the Missing Link Snaffle prior to Pat's Western Bit. I was just curious because regular broken snaffles work by collapsing onto the bars of your horse's mouth causing him to ball up his tongue in order to defend himself which also results in him bracing his jaw. So long as you've done your homework with regard to lateral work, you'll probably be fine with the new bit.
Hello from Eagle Rock MO. good info , inside beating the heat watching this, horses outside in hose mister. It's hot
Love that mule! What a sweet face 😊
Is it necessary to have a curb strap on a snaffle bit or only for the space bit horse?
It is always necessary for safety as explained in this video…
@@PatnDebPuckett I just wanted to ask. Been going through a lot of videos and just refreshing my mind on a lot of things. You forget a little after a while and hence the question above, will get my bridles sorted. Thank you.
Okay. I wanted to get Pat's input on Azteca horses. I know that you are a real fan of the Andalusian horse, but I have two very nice QH mares that I am thinking about breeding to a PRE stallion. Do you think this would be a good cross as compared to going straight Quarter Horse?
Thanks
It depends on the quality of your mares and how the stallion stamps his offspring. If your mares are built uphill and the stallion is a good one, you should get good results. If your mares are downhill, don't waste your money. Also, be aware that Iberian horses and Aztecas will be good horses if you understand their temperament. The are completely unlike quarter horses. Some people don't get along with them. If you've watched our playlist on Chinaco, you'll see how Pat addresses his particular disposition without making it a fight. We like Iberian horses because they are basically born in collection but also because they are independent thinkers. Once they understand the job, they'll do it for you. If they don't understand it or you've made it a confrontational relationship, you'll both be miserable. Regarding straight quarter horses, we like the old foundation bloodlines like Driftwood, Hancock, and Blue Valentine in particular.
@@PatnDebPuckett Very well said!
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you for your prompt response.
My mares were bred for working cattle as the first one I owned came from the Babbitt Ranch and had Driftwood and Dash For Cash bloodlines as well as less well-known bloodlines kind of exclusive to the Babbitt horses. I bred that mare to a grandson of Doc Bar and the mare I got from that cross is almost a spittin' image of that famous sire. She is pretty much level along the top line to my eye.
I do live on the Navajo Reservation, and so would have access to some mustang/feral mares that are (some of them, anyway) descended from those Spanish horses. Might that be a better bet?
Anyway, thanks for offering your knowledge on this topic as I am interested in that new Azteca breed. I believe that some of our horses are getting too closely inbred.
Thanks, again.
@@clayoreilly4553 If your mares are level and have good bone and good minds, pick the one you like best and go for it. I don't know that I'd breed to a mustang. The disposition would be an unknown.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you again. I really do like working with young horses and the best way to do that is to have a new foal at your own place. They are a blessing.
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Nice looking mule. Could mention never a chain strap on a snaffle.
where is tthhaaa Leather Chin strap, On the Missing link Clicking Snapple Bit ..?
lol
Seeing folks ride with a single eared headstall with a snaffle instead of a headstall with a browband and throat latch is also problematic....
Single eared headstall is problematic? Why? Could you elaborate please:)
@@sassy6292 when you pull back on the snaffle bit slack in the headstall happens, a single eared headstall without a throat latch can come off...try it in a controlled environment, notice the mechanics between the two set ups....
@@danfields3341 I’ve used a one ear bridle for well over a decade. Never has there been an issue. Perhaps it depends on the horse and the shape of its head or the quality of the bridle?
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