Nux Watches Deku VS Asta (My Hero Academia VS Black Clover) | DEATH BATTLE!
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I'm an arc behind in black clover lol oops
but I still enjoy making fun of death battle :)
makes sense thought u were tripping LMAO
I won't say anything cause you're allowed your opinion but you can't actually say anything unless you know how to power scale
Now it makes sense I thought you had to see a doctor for a brain scan for a second
You're more than an arc, but it's fine. I'm a powerscaler, it's my job to know this shit. Not really my job, but yeah.
Are you sure you’re not a whole one piece saga behind lol
I just hate how dumb they made Asta seem when Asta is very smart when it comes to fighting people and he learns really fast during his fights
One sign people don't understand Asta is that they assume he is a total bone head, despite the fact that he is actually a Combat Genius.
That would definitely go into Battle IQ which Asta definitely takes over Deku.
Agreed
@@bryanmerel yeah, just like what people do to Goku, he is a complete dumbass out of combat, but have an absurd Battle IQ
Though from a narrative perspective, emphasizing them as opposite sides of the coin. One who's constantly strategizing ahead of time VS someone who goes with the flow and simplifies the overall strategy to "Hit it really hard" even if he totally DOES have his own brand of intelligence
What i learned from this is Nux is actually a MHA fan and theres no way hes up to date on black clover
Fr bro 💀
Nux complaining about Death Battles conclusion while also completely skipping their explanations lmao.
facts
Becuse death battle ON MUITPLE OCCASIONS nerf characters by not showing some of there Feats like in this battle Asta in BASE FORM stomps deku and the verse.
@@Polybius_fr again one for all is a stockpiling quirk look at the feats of at least All Might with the Embers of One For All then add basically peak performance all mights power plus the other 7 to Deku he would be almost unstoppable as he trained day in and day out to master one for all and make it his own
@@shadowfan115 your logic is a balant nlf
Let me say Goku has limitless power cus sayains were stated to be limitless . It's just potential that can never be reached
@@shadowfan115 even if we multiply his power currently by 55% he still doesn't beat current Asta
8:59 “he didn’t dodge it, he just moved away before it hit him” 😂
I didnt lose, i simply failed to win
If you're already not in something's way, you didnt have to dodge it. If i stood in the way of a car yet walked out of the way long before it could hit me, then wait for it to pass, i didnt dodge the car.
@@matthewsimon6170 now try doing it with a flashlight and see if it's the same. because maybe light moves a little faster than car, and even knowing its coming, your reaction time as to be fast enough to evade it
YEAH@@mr.awesome6360 you knows it’s coming so get out of the range of the light or runaway from it before it turns on.
@@jaoofyoversimplified...?
Just because you have precognition that doesn’t mean you can dodge anything, you still have to react to said attack.
Wiz & Boom did MINIMAL research on Asta. The results would have still been the same. Asta has more feats AND tearing than Izuku. I’m a fan of both series.
Let me tell you guys this: Asta put in work for his dreams since birth. Izuku got a lucky handout in his teens & months of training.
My theory on why is that I imagine animating and composing all the information they have takes longer then we anticipate. I’m thinking 1-2 months to animate and that’s just animation they still have to do research it in all likelihood takes them at minimum 3-6 months to get everything done by that time more feats have been shown but since they already have the episode planned out and being animated they can’t just go back and erase everything to add in this new feat or they would never get done. It’s just a theory and I could be wrong but that makes the most logical sense on why they don’t include obvious feats if those feats came out after they started storyboarding and animating.
Izuku is a high functioning depressed person before the events of the series start, meaning he focused on not unaliving himself more then working out. Consider this, would you be willing to do anything relating to working out if everyone told you you suck and are basically a quadraplegic if you don't have a quirk(IMO that is stupid, MHA takes place in 22XX, that means EVERYTHING that made humanity the dominant species still happened without quirks aka the pre quirk era.) would you be motivated to work on yourself or learn martial arts?
The issue with that claim is that again one for all is a stockpiling quirk that adds the strength of the previous user to the next and so on Deku being the 9th and all might being the 8th would have a crap ton of power especially when you compare it to the embers of one for all all Mights Feats hell they didn't even mention that Deku was able to hold out against Shigaraki with the powers of All For One
@@shadowfan115 that means nothing. Asta still has better feats.
@@drivanradosivic1357 bro asta literally lives in a world where he is the only person without magic only person deku is like part of a large minority
To address the "Only showing 2 quirks" thing, They showed Float, Danger Sense, Smokescreen, Fa Jin, Gear Shift, and Black Whip in the fight. You can see it, too. When Deku gets launched into the building, and says "Aren't swords supposed to be sharp?", he uses Smokescreen to avoid Asta, until Asta finds him, using Danger Sense to avoid the incoming attack. Black Whip is more noticeable, as it is used to disarm Asta, and play Paddle Ball with him. Float was used to launch a building at Asta when he enters demon form, and after Deku jumps off the building, as he is flying towards Asta, you can see him use Gear Shift to increase his speed. Finally, Deku activates Fa Jin while winding up his big "1 million percent" smash, by jumping between pieces of rubble falling through the air.
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i dunno when the battle was made, but like, im pretty sure gear shift wasnt even a factor during this fight, like at all in the manga?
though maybe im just not very well caught up, cause like, gear shift is a MASSIVE speed boost, while that didnt really seem like one in the death battle
Asta still wins, very obviously and i dont even read or watch black clover, they are just two entirely different power levels in terms of series
Asta>>>Deku in terms of strength and character
I'm afraid I have to disagree with you saying that Deku should've won. I do believe that Asta winning was the correct conclusion, but Death Battle massively lowballed Asta as if they were trying to make him lose. Deku at best is like city level and FTL at full power. Asta is currently planet-level and MFTL because he killed a bunch of devils that could destroy the world and fought a guy who generated a mini-black hole, and that guy was weaker than the devils. He also blitzed an attack that was several times faster than the light magic. I've seen people calculate this feat to be hundreds of times the speed of light and this was in his base form before the time skip. And Asta's ki sensing isn't really precognition, it's more like how Dragon Ball characters sense ki. So I agree with Death Battle's outcome, but seriously lowballed Asta. Deku didn't stand a chance.
I'm also glad you didn't bring up the Gearshift thing that people have been using to overhype Deku like it was going to make him millions of times stronger and faster than everybody. It is annoying seeing people think that.
It's not really that they low ball characters, it's more like they go with feats that are more concrete in calculating rather than feats that are speculative or straight up impossible to do so.
A good example is Sauron vs the Lich King. Their power levels are likely higher than island level, but it's hard to say how much higher. But they were able to get a good idea of the difference using those two feats.
@@dogzilla0578 I think you have a point, but that just goes to show how bad Death Battle is at power scaling.
@@burnscooper892 Well, that's another thing. Scaling can be pretty subjective. Everyone is going to have their own take on it, what factors go into it, the relationship between the characters, etc. Personally, I prefer their more "reserved" way of looking at it rather than someone who wanks them into oblivion without a good enough argument for it or ignoring material that directly contradicts it.
*Cough, cough* Ink Tank *Cough, cough*
Asta's swords don't actually cut anything, save for like one of them. They are magic cancellers.
... have you read the manga? they cut entire mountain ranges
@@David-jt9nt I haven't and really have only seen clips and read some stuff. Far as I knew most of Asta's swords don't cut anything that isn't connected to mana, save for the one that looks like a katana.
@@Zoten001 his sword literally cus through trident . That is made of a physical material in his fight against the devil. It's still a hunk of iron
BRO he CUT DIMENSIONS????
@@Zoten001 the black devider attack can cut mountains down, he can override gravity (debatable bc it was magic gravity), and he can cut though the dimensions he gains this power in the literal next 2 chapters of the manga after the show paused
Bro has NOT watched Black Clover
I don't agree with Asta being stronger than a super charged Deku, but I still agree with the outcome, for the simple reason that weapons are force multipliers. The power you'd need to cut down a tree with your fists is thousands of times greater than what you'd need to cut it down with an axe in a fraction of the time. Asta's swords give him the real edge.
Wiz & Boom didn’t do ALL of the research on Asta. They dropped the ball
Asta is stronger could you give evidence why deku is stronger asta can hurt Devils who is at least country level
ironic considering one of his swords cant cut apparently altho it would still work like a blunt weapon mace hammer
@@L_______ are you another guy who thinks anti magic swords can cut through anything but magic. . it literally cus through a Trident which is physical
In base form Asta stomps Deku. Thanks to this wonderful comment section I watched the Broku video. Yeah. It ain't even close.
I promise to do better with my art for next season. I'm starting to take extra lessons to get better even when given a short amount of time to animate things. Keep being you Nux, I'm that rare type of artist that likes harsh criticism to help him grow. Especially from people I've been following for a while and go to for anime related videos.
Death battle explains that Asta's first 3 swords cannot cut targets. Only the Katana can cut stuff. Also if you remember early in the show Asta's swords only can pierce enemies using edge of the swords.
Off the swords have a certain feature in one of them where he can choose what he wants to cut
And the swords have no limitation in piercing things
The three seasons to learn he can use his feet thing is not the point: the point was he spent his whole life wanting to EMULATE All-Might, he spent three seasons to learn that he needs to be his own hero.
I vote Nux be in a Death Battle
Who is his opponent you ask?
*Drumroll*
H20Delirious
Dammmm his prediction was totally wrong maybe course he didn't finish either manga
Nux is grasping at straws so much in this
Oh, hello there
"Asta dodged light in his sleep!!"
Imagine using gags as power scaling XD
He can still dodge light easily as he’s done it multiple times and can live faster than it.
@@locusxe1411 okay, yeah
But the fact that they're using this ONE GAG to prove it, and not any of the feats beyond the Elf Arc is stupid
@@DeltaGreen03 its because they low balled asta Same as deku
It's interesting to hear Nux say Deku should have 100% won because I knew nothing about Black Clover, let alone Asta and all I heard leading up to this episode was that Asta stomps Deku. Which resulted in me not being too surprised even though I was rooting for Deku. But yeah, not the strongest Death Battle episode of the season, animation was not all there, cringy dialogue, and not using all of Deku's quirks, especially the overuse of Blackwhip and Detroit Smash. There's always gonna be the low low, but can't deny, the song for this battle slaps
"We've run the data thru all possibilities and it says we can only afford 240p this week."
Bro wanted Deku to win so much lol
I would PAY to see Nux and Seth the Programer colab to DESTROY a Death Battle espisode...!
I'd rather watch Seth do it solo. At least he bothers to do any research.
Sooooo, the Vtuber is saying this was cringe... Now iv seen everything
when deku was watching almigt on tv asta was doing pressups and pumping iron
Ok. The final line “take that Detroit” is the best line I’ve heard
Asta can destroy Deku as soon as he transformed into his Demon form but the way they defeated Deku with STABS BY BLUNT SWORDS? 💀
with enough force you can stab someone with blunt objects.
In the end, even knives are blunt if you look at them with a microscope, but since they're sharper than for example, Asta's sword, they need less force to cut
Asta sweeps most of if not all of my hero with his current power set
Nux, you're cringe for not watching the beginning.
I heard from people that Asta got slighted for sure which they have been biased towards character's before but I haven't even watched it and can say Asta should take the W
When Asta is so busted he gets horribly nerfed and still wins XD
I know somebody could go through and watch all the death battles and prove that they rig it for the sole purpose of getting hate watchers it’s so obvious.
No, I think you just gaslighting as all the popular TH-camrs in 2015 told you to have this opinion.
@@sk47moxie59 what popular TH-camr cares about death battle? It’s clearly not nux because he still watches them. You can’t just write my backstory and pretend it’s fact lmao
@@Idcidancecool Ok my point was that TH-camrs who make videos on Death Battle go in with the intention of debunking them since Goku Vs's Superman with that sentament growing since. However, that is inherently jucstaposed to the point of Vs's as it is a debate creating strawman arguemtns to defame the show and crew just becuse instead of giving proper evidence. Esenshally underminding the work of they whole crew over what is essentioally a hunch about intention and way of verdict usally due to what a popular TH-camr has to say. Does that make sence? and if you still don't agree with me give me an argument that isn't inherently opinionated to prove your point. You know something that people who critsise the show almost never do. And if you want proof of that just watch any debunk the videos make and the debunk of the debunk videos and the videos debunking the show while also just being a reaction agreeing with what they say. Good example would be Thor Vs Vegeta you know if you actually do it.
Bruh I’m ngl I don’t watch them anymore we both know The channel is hate bait for easy money idc
@@sk47moxie59 you know I just remembered something the power scaling community hates nux lol I’m glad I’m still a fan you were right after all
Did Nux just call the movies not cannon? 😂
Patty’s spell was not gonna vaporize the country, just going to let you all know.
Yeah it wasn't, there are better feats used to scale astas strength like reflecting the force of the moon
Remember that Asta can only use anti-magic on magics of similar power level? Remember when Asta fodders almost destroyed a dimension of infinite size during the elf war arc? Remember when another Asta fodder split said infinite dimension in 2 to not only escape, but to affect the outside world?
What's a planet to an infinite dimension? Nothing. GGs dekutards.
Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!!
Bro how are you gonna criticize DB researchers on how accurate the episode was, when you skip over the ENTIRE analysis! Then you came up with your own bullshit predictions and tried debunking the conclusion with every single point they made! I just don’t get it.
This guy complained over a damn callback 5:06
4:09Wow that's tough I get it Detroit is a required taste you got to know where to go to hang out otherwise something bad might happen cuz I grew up in Detroit but I live in the suburbs now but damn I don't regret living there because it taught me how to survive it's sharpen my nigga instincts💯✊🏾
I think problem with characters like Asta is how they portray it as a "character without magic", but then he still can do everything someone with magic can do. "Reading Ki" as an excuse to have actual danger sense, he has super speed and super strength, can fly, can regenerate, and has magic cancelling swords. But Asta has no powers, he's "just a boy without magic.". Not to mention, his dream is to become a wizard king without actually being a wizard. This is why Asta is cringe.
He can't regenerate, and Ki isn't magic, it's another type of super natural energy, which he uses at the same way mages uses mana sensing, he fkys because he learnt how to control the anti-magic of his sword, that initially chases the highest concentration of mana, now he can use the sword to chase the mana that flows in the air in order to make it hover
None of that is a problem. The entire point of Asta’s character is that he was quite literally the weakest person in his verse and his hard work despite the odds pays off for him. And even after he finally gets anti-magic he still has to find new ways to keep up with others. He is always at the disadvantage but figures out a way to overcome the challenge and push past people’s expectations. And if you want to criticize Shonen protagonists, Deku is literally just Asta. both are modern Shōnen anime/manga teenage protagonists who were born into their worlds without the abilities that most people in their worlds possess (Quirks and Mana, respectively), which they were looked down upon for before eventually receiving abilities that were stronger than others in their worlds (One For All and Anti Magic, respectively), from someone else (All Might and Liebe, respectively) which contains certain entities (One For All's past wielders and Liebe, respectively) and they had to train with an older man to fully grasp how to use these powers effectively. Said powers ended up being compatible with their formerly powerless natures (One For All causes accelerated aging to quirk users, whereas Anti Magic drains the mana of those trying to wield it), but they still had to train extensively to utilize them properly. Both have the goal of achieving their world's greatest heroic title (the Number One Hero and the Wizard King, respectively) and have a rivalry with a prodigious childhood friend who shares said goal (Katsuki Bakugo and Yuno Grinberryall, respectively). Despite their enthusiastic personalities and tendency to overreact in many situations, both are known for being tactical fighters who often best their opponents with keen analysis and creative problem-solving. Although they are generally kind and compassionate individuals who are driven by their desire to help others, their headstrong senses of justice have led to them making brash decisions in the past, and both receive amplifications in power from feelings of intense rage and animosity. Both are also members of a group whose motto is all about surpassing their limits (Class 1-A and the Black Bulls, respectively) and would eventually obtain more powers as time passed (Izuku acquired more quirks, while Asta gained possession of multiple different swords), though along the way they almost had their careers cut short due to injuries they received to their arms. Both also have close relationships with female teammates who developed a crush on them but also put said feelings aside so they could stand strong on their own (Ochako Uraraka and Noelle Silva, respectively), a serious person with glasses who initially had a bad opinion of them (Tenya Iida and Klaus Lunettes, respectively), and a fire-manipulating member of their team from whom they gained respect (Shoto Todoroki and Magna Swing, respectively).
Both also have a strong but complicated relationship with a figure linked to their past (Katsuki Bakugo, Izuku's childhood friend and rival, and Liebe, Asta's adoptive brother and combat partner) who are both voiced by Nobuhiko Okamoto.
Both have been mentored by an uncouth but highly respected figure who is often critical of them but also goes to great lengths to ensure their growth (Shota Aizawa, Izuku's homeroom teacher, and Yami Sukehiro, Asta's squad captain) who are both voiced by Junichi Suwabe.
Kōhei Horikoshi and Yūki Tabata (the authors of My Hero Academia and Black Clover, respectively), are good friends and have drawn each other's characters before, including Deku and Asta.
There’s more stuff I didn’t include.
as always Nux, complaining about the animation being 3 mins when death battle has said the fight is purely for entertainment purposes and is not accurate to the actual outcome but you just wanna keep on hating.
Nah nux the fight wasn’t well done but asta is stronger deku by a mile , Asta was dodging light in base , i don’t like both but asta is superior
Nux baffled by his lack of logics. beautiful xD
Honestly it was a pretty good assessment. Even if deku was such a technical battle mastermind that he figured discovered the very concept of a kick, i think they showed Asta was actually stronger. You didnt actually watch it, so i can see why you disagree.
What we’ve learned today is that nux isn’t actually a black clover fan
That one was super obvious it hurt to hear him be on Dekus side.
i like my hero more but there is no way deku was beating asta
Yh
Because you cant claim to have read bc manga and still think deku will win its not just possible only if your ignorant.
Yah Nux picking dekus side was kinda of a let down asta had this fight
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You can't debunk something if you don't look at their entire argument nux
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I agree you need to look at these death battles in every mathematical out come I am concerned death battle is right this time
@Part-Time Gamer If you know Nux, you should know, how much he actually hates Deku. I am neutral towards him, because the show has other great characters, but Deku isn't his fav. He is actually arguing against the character he likes more.
@@noahbeach2661 they're actually usually pretty accurate it's just their way of explaining it is janky don't get me wrong there are ones they legit get wrong from time to time like aizen v madara
Death Battle’s research is so awful, a real fan could debunk it just by looking at their reasoning
they actually underpowered asta in this fight literally all of the feats they used for asta were pre timeskip and they didnt even use any of asta's technique's that he has learned in the manga asta actually scales to planetary
Asta used Devil Union, didn't he? He didn't change forms in it, but I'd say that's definitely post (1st) timeskip. As for techniques, yeah, the only named attack Asta used was Black Meteorite, when Black Divider should've definitely been in there as well (Zetten he just learned in the manga and we also haven't even properly seen Asta use his, so I don't think they needed to take that into account)
But I very much doubt Asta scales to planetary, considering he still struggles against opponents that clearly aren't planetary either, like half-manifested Lucifero, who he could only beat with immense help, or even currently the Ryuzen Seven, even though he doesn't seem to have used full Devil Union against any of them as of now. If planetary level means being capable of destroying a planet, Asta is far, very far from there yet.
@@Justic_ what he used in the animation was post time skip but all the feats they used to scale him were pre time skip feats
@@Justic_ they use incompete union for the fight and it was shown that true devil union was WAY stronger than his incompete one to the point it comparing a club to a katana in cutting a bamboo
And he still won
I mean, Asta is far stronger but he def aint planetary lmao. That is just based on weak statements that are easily debunked and aint real feats. Highest I can buy Asta scaling is Multi-Continental to Moon.
Asta no riffs deku and this was a weaker version of Asta than his current manga state. They gave deku manga feats from chapters that came out like a month ago. But even though Zetten was given to asta before gear shift was given to deku, they didn't give it to asta. And they didn't give asta partial union which completely negates the time limit. And zetten boost asta power by 60 times. Deku couldn't stand a chance here. So sorry nux. I love ya but you missed with this one g
Broku did a really good video on this deathbattle.
Agreed
Yh
Nux should watch said Broku video on stream, I think his reactions to it would be amusing.
@@Randomperson-wo5cu nux barely has a grasp on asta's scaling compared to deku, yeah he does need to watch it.
@@Randomperson-wo5cu I agree
They really wanted deku to win, but realized that asta just scaled way too high, so they tried to nerf him to oblivion, and after all that, they realized asta still blitzes.
Plus the fact that they said to none magic entities, the swords are dull and that's just not true.
Plus the fact that they claim to use science but completely forgot about the fact that if something blunt hits something else with enough speed and force behind it, it still can "cut"....😑😑😑😑
@@Goldyboi2001 they didn’t even mention true devil union asta😂
@@exel8091 or the power he got from the newer chapters of the manga, they gave them to Deku but not Asta
I doubt that, it's more likely that they nerfed Asta so it seems more even than it actually is. If they wanted deku to win they'd just have him win.
@@probablyseth3565 if the made Deku win they would blose whatever value they had left
The Gauche thing was before Ki sensing was even introduced, and Gauche also managed to literally deflect a light spell later on. Also, precognition does not enhance a person’s speed anyway. You have to be moving as fast to dodge or deflect light speed attacks. For example, a person can try to stab me, and despite me seeing the attack in progress, I would still have to be fast enough to move out of the way or I would just get stabbed.
Yeah I hate thier argument that just because you dodge a lightspeed attack, you're lightspeed when all that really means is you have a lightspeed reaction time.
But at the same time asta can easily keep up with Patoli and Lumiere, two mages who can move at light speed
@@Goldyboi2001 they pretty much used the right argument with the wrong evidence
@@danx8214 Exactly. They use wrong evidence to prove how strong ASTA is.
@@danx8214 that is actually the perfect description of that death battle as a whole
Asta scales higher than someone who was using physical strength to decimate multiple continental, if not higher fighters. How is Deku coming close to that?
How you might ask? The people Asta has beaten use magic, which he can cancel. Deku's quirks are not magic, therefore Asta can't cancel it. That's how. And the writers fucked it up, Deku should have won, they literally left out his 5 other quirks, and he wouldn't even need to use all of them. If Deku uses the second users quirk, that would have been instant win, but even without that Deku slaps already with the 3rd user's quirk, danger sense, 7th user's float, 4th user's Fa Jin, the 1st's stockpile and the 5th's black whip. Before you answer, remember: ASTA CAN'T CANCEL THESE!
@@Dontfucklewithdashuckle sorry miduku fan your cognitively disabled. l'm gonna take time out of my day to explain why deku would get one shotted by base asta. First of all asta is faster than the speed of light, we know this because hee was able to parry and block light magic which is stated to be as fast as light itself. This isn't even asta greatest speed feat, this was the beginning of the series around episode 36 or chapter 39 of the manga. Dekus greatest speed feat was when he outsped lady Nagats bullets which is around hypersonic++. Next is Asta's durability. During the witch forest arc asta tanked a attack that could vaporize a whole ocean and he still got back up, this is right before he got his black form so he is still in his base, that is multi continental durability. And deku can what? probably survive a missle because afo shigiraki tanked one and barely survived. Next is strength. Asta can reflect magic attacks but only if his strength is comparable to the force of the spell he's combating. For example if a spell has the force of the sun and asta isnt strong enough to reflect the attack, he'll just get vaporized. So during the elf base raid arch he, Zoro and Meroliones were fighting against three elves all of which scale higher than Ladrose the person who fired the ocean vaporizing attack at asta. So each of them cast a spell that is considerably stronger than ladros attack which is amped by three times because it combines into a bigger more powerful spell. Zoro uses his ash magic to double the strength and speed of the spell, asta hits it right back at him to double the power again, then asta proceeds to reflect the attack right back at the elves. So to summarize 3 powerful attacks that are stronger than the ocean vaporizing spell that ladros casted doubles in strength 2 times, gets reflected back at the elves by asta with pure strength IN HIS BASE FORM. That is over multicontinental POSSIBLY MOON LEVEL STRENGTH. The force that attack held and asta casually reflects it back. And deku is what? Country? At most. This is all in the anime btw I haven't even gotten into the manga. Asta even has a universal feat. His infinity slash which could cut through dimensions. Please tell me how does deku even stand a chance against asta?
@@sidenote2854 I know I just sometimes like to argue the loosing side to see what happens, to me arguments are not about winning or loosing, it's about getting more knowledge. But since here everyone says asta asta asta(because that's the right answer), then who will argue deku's side? That's when I come into the picture out of boredom.
@@sidenote2854 plus I have read the black clover manga, now to put Asta against Deku is a fucking joke.
@@sidenote2854 Now that I cleared that up, let me make an argument against you: Asta is not faster than light, that's a plothole. If Asta is faster than the speed of light, and he can sense hostile Ki, that would mean he could counter anything, making him invincible, which he is not. Therefore his greatest speed you listed is just bad writing (he is still faster than Deku tho). His endurance: didn't he only survive most major hits in the show because of the cat(fate magic)? And somehow Noelle can still hit him in a tsundere hissy fit and hurt him with that, so endurance is if not for the fate magic, it's bad writing, also that attack was scaled down from the actual one that can vaporize an ocean.(only in base form tho, even half demonic form can tank 1000000% Detroit Smash) About the reflection part and the infinity slash? Even I can't argue those points no matter how hard I would try to understand the thought pattern of a lunatic bnha fan lol. And as I said this is only the anime, and I have read the manga, the person who would have read both mangas and say that deku wins unironically is not just a clown, not even the circus, that person is the entire entertainment industry XD.
Nux, ill have to disagree with you. Not only was Asta dodging light fairly early in the series from the Elf Saga, he was getting stronger, strong enough to be comparable to the Captains, even in base form especially in the Devils saga. Dispersing mana is the same as natural phenomena as mana is considered an element of nature. Without his might mixed with his anti-magic, Asta would not be able to perform these feats in his universe. He's far stronger than characters like even Prime All Might and All for One, the only potential issue is Quirk Haxes, otherwise he would solo the verse. He might due that, though as he's FTL.
MANA TRANSFER🗿
nux stated that he was a arc behind on black clover and I think he changed his mind about who was winning
Yea and he can copy yamis dimension slash which cuts dimensions in half so yea prety easy
I do have to ask, does Infinity Slash actually cut space the same way Dimension Slash does?@@draskopopovic9543
They did show off all of One For All's Power's. He was flying with two of them. Smoke screen and black whip for 2 more. And possibly Gear Shift for the 5th. Plus Danger Sense was passively active the entire time. You could argue Deku never directly flew at Asta and just jumped from building to building. But given the final clash at the end of the video. He definitely used it then. That's 6 Quirks. One for All had 6 users with Quirks. The 1st, 8th, and 9th users didn't have quirks. 9th being Deku himself.
No, the 1st was not quirkless. All for One did not have One for All and give it to his brother. He gave a quirk to his brother that fused with his brother's quirk to become One for All.
@@AnimatorBlake I know. I am just counting the 1st as Quirkless since he technically had the baseline for OFA. It was effectively useless by itself until he passed it on, and in the terms of this argument it wouldn't matter much considering I am explaining how many of the OFA quirks were used.
@@fr0stdr4ke95 the issue is that it's a stockpiling quirk that adds more and more power after every successor Deku being number 9 and if we base this off just the embers of one for all that All Might had he was legit continent destroyer or even planet destroyer levels and Deku actually had to train to use one for all and make it his own so the claims Asta could have won due to dumb luck and brute strength was also false since Deku was stronger than even all might and was able to hold his own against shigaraki with the powers of all for one
@@shadowfan115 when was almight stated to be planetary . even if we go by stockpile there. Was no evidence all might is anything above mountain level. Also stockpile power is unquantifiable .
@@shadowfan115 All Might isn't even City level tho. He used a full force United States of Smash against All For One and it was at best at city level feat. Yes it was just the embers, but if we say that he is only 1/100th of his true power. That is still only about Island Level. Honestly just watch the Broku video that goes over this fight. Asta is Moon Level minimum.
Asta is stronger than moon level characters
Moon level? Bruh this is Black Clover not Naruto.
And even then, Asta cancels out Magic. He has no Mana, so you can't say his power level can rival characters of that calibre.
@@animefbi5460 true but you forgot about some of his powers
@@animefbi5460 magic has mass and density which is why they mentioned Asta needing comparable strength depending on how much anti magic he is channeling.
@@animefbi5460 Asta is at least country level currently in the manga.
Manga Deku is at most city level from what we have seen.
@@animefbi5460 he technically can scale to that hurs it's iffy
Life lesson: you can’t just call things cringe because it doesn’t go your way 😅
Clearly you havent been a nux fan for long lol
@@TiberiusRex182 ive been watching nux for ages but I just kinda got fed up lol
@@dronix6624 I feel the same
He seemed to get worse over the years, lost his charm at the ends of the Rant Cafe Podcast. Very few of his jokes hit. I love he's getting back to anime sometimes because that's what I loved.
I agree, just cus something doesnt go your way, you should not start hating it, i feel like his opinions are getting a bit too biased as he leans in on his prefered character too much
"Nux Debunks Deku VS Asta"
**Nux gets debunked by the explination and the comment section**
Nux doesn't think Asta beats Deku? I think Asta slams, and I'm even a Deku fanboy.
Yea Asta slaps and it's not close
Dude is clearly trolling. He literally says the guy who punches alot doesn't have iq
True ppl who don't read Mangas will know Asta is just on another lvl atm even with dekus gears I don't think he could beat Asta with masters Ryo
What about the rage quirk? Isn't his rage quirk op?
@@dillonhussey7221 not op enough to beat asta
Nux what in the hell are you on?
Asta clears Deku easy death battle made it so much closer than it needs to be
Dude he is definitely trolling . It's pretty obvious
Broku put it best.
They wanted Asta to lose, but couldn't find a way for it to happen
@@mechamanw668 Or they wanted to put on an entertaining video and didn't want to make it too obvious from the analysis who was going to win. Realistically, yeah, Deku wouldn't have had any chance and would be dead quicker than in the fight animation, but the fight animation is also meant to be entertaining and not just insta over.
@@PiliciousTV thing is, they have put out entertaining one-sided death battles before, like OmniMan vs Homelander. And it still doesn't change the fact that they fudged the fears of Asta when the intent of these vids is to give these characters everything that they can do and throw them at each-other. Even when you wanna exclude Fajin and Zetten because both were introduced fairly recently, Asta was still nerfed
@@mechamanw668 That doesn't mean what he's saying can't be true. Just because they can make an interesting stomp match once doesn't mean they can't also make it not a stomp match here.
Wait.. they only showed off two?
You watched the fight and commented on it and saw his danger sense, black whip, smoke, float, faijin, and even at the part when they go hyper speed he uses gear shift, at what point didn't you?
nux you either did not finish or read black clover because you down playing asta more than the death battle guys lol, Asta is too strong he scales higher than you think
Bro can people understand trolling
Honestly they down played asta a lot and still he won. They literally forgot about all of his swords abilities
Ryu zen (advanced ki)
Homelander vs Omni man was probably their best death battle. That shit slapped
It totally was
Probably gonna have to give that to Dante VS Bayonetta on just visuals alone
I personally think ryu vs Jin is hella underrated
What about Siatama Vs Popeye or the mask Vs deadpool
Snake vs Sam was also a great DB.
Death Battle is actually correct about the outcome of this fight. Asta is leagues faster than Deku. Realistically, Asta should have Speed Blitz Deku.
They heavily downplayed asta to make the fight closer lol
The anime version of deku that is
Which is lowaballed
The manga one which is Just plain out ignoring the laws of physichs would win
@@Jpx0999 what are you talking about . Your balantly are stating bs asta scales way higher than deku what do you even mean law of physics
@@MrX-uu8vi he is one of the guys that made lists that say "allmight is number 1 hero he can win against goku"
wish i was joking 💀
@@Jpx0999
He isnt some reality warper bruh
"Breaking the laws of physics" for deku in this case is that when he activates gear shift no matter how fast his going he can change his direction effortlessly without any force being applied,he can also stop just as effortlessly (ignoring the laws of inertia)
That's it,it isn't some reality bending feat like yall think it is and based on actual feats asta wins.
one small note, they showed five of deku's powers, the super strength (obvious), black whip (those black tentacle things), smokescreen (in the tower the smoke or dust came up before he was hit), precognition type powers (when he knew asta was coming in the fog/dust cloud), and float (how he was flying), the other two are another strength amplifying one and a speed boosting one that would both be hard to prove he was or wasn't using but in the manga they literally say that one of those two (idk what one it is) can ignore the laws of physics or some other anime bs like that. I'm not sure how accurate asta was in this because I only know what has happened in the anime unfortunately I just wanted to comment and ya, you're awesome Nux.
You mean gear shift, yeah technically he can change the speed of anything he touches, this allows him to go pass the speed of sound, break the law of inertia and could technically push back enemies at insane speeds if he wanted to
Bruh Fa Jin is used in conjunction with full cowl and gear shift would be pretty hard to animate with that puke quality
Plus we can assume that these powers were in use when they went all out.
But yeah they didn't show most of either characters powers because asta still has true devil union (the form he used was a partial union) and don't get me started with zetten....
@@Goldyboi2001not to mention Asta has better speed, strength, and durability feats than deku.
One example of his durability feat is tanking a hit from Devil Loropechcka (the queen of the heart kingdom), whose power is equal to a Supreme devil. Another example is walking through 50% Lucifero's gravity, which the captains couldn't even do without Rill's twilight Valhalla spell. If we bring up zetten, that would be more unfair in Asta's favor than it already is.
Just because a blade isn't sharp doesn't mean you can't stab
Guts sword is one of those examples
I mean mha hasn't had anything near continent level let alone above not to mention asta is ftl this was a stomp in his favor lol
8:57 Except for the fact that he... yknow... didn't learn Ki yet. He learned it later that arc, but didn't have it when that dodge happened.
Debunk is a strong word, especially when not even bothering to hear the build up,nor offer a rebuttal beyond “nuh-uh!” 😂
6:00 This fight basically did everything it could to be NOT what you expected or predicted. As for the swords, I assume they meant a "anything can be used to impale people IF you put enough force behind it" sort of thing at the end. Though now that I think of it, wouldn't Asta have just done that as soon as they both went all out?...
These kinds of Death Battles leave me with _many_ questions...
I imagine people who know better on the characters than me have less, more, or different ones...
So Asta's sword can cut from the tip of them he can stab just not cut
For me honestly the fight is mainly to turn your brain off and enjoy while guessing who the winner will be. Death battle has said a few times that it really is just for show and all that determines the fight is the evidence that they go over at the begining and ending breakdown.
Asta has stabbed a couple of guys in the series, along with cutting non-magical things here and there... maybe his swords are just pretty limited and not sharp compared to other swords, but not less dangerous.
These are the guys who said akuma beats kenpachi
@@leonedevaudier76 *_WHAAAAAAAAT??????!!!!!!!_* I know little to NOTHING about Akuma, but from what I DO know of Kenpachi, him getting beat by a character from _Street Fighter_ is pretty damn unbelievable.
This was one of the few deathbattles that was actually accurate😭. They even downplayed Asta and just granted Deku the movie-feat which is arguably not even canon.
The movie's canon, it's referenced later in the manga
The movie is canon
if by few you mean most then yeah
@@drewgenelin2302 that doesn't really matter because even with this feat Deku is nowhere near close to Asta's strenght. Salamanda was stated to be able to dry out oceans in the databook which is a multicontinental feat and demon-Licht was stated to be able to wipe out all of humanity with one of his big attacks. All of humanity would not only include all the people from the clover, heart and spade kingdom but also the ones from the rising sun which from what we know is a massive distance away from the clover kingdom. Multicontinental Asta isn't something unrealistic.
Then there is speed and oh boy... Deku in the manga can be argued to be close to lightspeed while Asta at chapter 40 already performed similar feats. At this time Asta hadn't even unlocked his black form, couldn't control his antimagic and was not even close to getting devilunion. There were occasions where Asta after training became dozens of times faster than he was before and this isn't even including the training-arcs or the timeskip. Asta is hundreds to thousands of times faster now than he was at chapter 40 so Deku is so much slower that he just straight up wouldn't be able to see him.
Asta when he first unlocked his black Asta form vs Deku would be an interesting fight, this isn't.
@@tgb1005 look, everybody already knew Deku would lose to Asta, with even me preferring MHA over black clover, I knew Deku would only have versatility and intelligence, other than that, Asta stomps.
I also have a problem with the fight, specifically how they characterized Asta. Keep in mind, I know nothing about black clover or it’s characters, this is coming from people who I know that have watched/read it.
Asta was characterized to be a massive dick, specifically with him landing the final blow on Deku. I was told that Asta is very sympathizing with his enemies, but db unfortunately portrayed him to just not give a shit about someone like Deku, who he himself compared to Luck. Deku actually died after giving his one million percent punch, as indicated by his eyes glazing over. Apparently, Asta could’ve sensed that his lifeforce was gone, so that means, that him stabbing him multiple times was just rubbing salt in the wound.
So yeah, now I’m turned off from watching black clover because of that.
Also, I’ve seen people react to this fight on tictok, specifically black clover fans, and my god are they aggressive. All of them praised Asta like he was the second coming of Christ, while in turn they talked shit about Deku getting completely stomped to hell.
The really hard thing was a joke. You'd think Nux of all would get that.
Nux was downplaying asta more than death battle 💀
Crying Boy vs Screaming Boy
that's s1 deku vs s1 asta. current deku vs current asta is edgy boi vs edgy boi
Nux, my guy, I have so many things I need to say to you. First, Asta would win this fight hands down, even if Deku was able to use all One For All without damaging himself, and likely in his base form on top of that. Asta's an idiot socially, but he's a combat prodigy and thinks up strategies on the fly with relative ease.
Second, the movie they were doing their math for Deku from is canon as stated by Horikoshi.
And third: The power scaling for Black Clover is just so beyond MHA's that this was never a fight to begin with. They both downplayed and upscaled Deku, but they horribly downplayed Asta, not to mention constantly insulting him or making jokes about him during his breakdown. There was a clear bias against Asta going into this video and he still won because there's just no way that Deku can measure up to the scale of Black Clover's power system. Hell, alone, the Salamander is a multi-continental threat, and Asta makes Salamander seem weak in comparison. Some of the big feats of Deku reach country to continental levels of attack potency, he's only getting to that point recently in the manga, whereas Asta was exceeding beings with comparable feats literally halfway through his story, and he's gotten leagues stronger since. We're comparing large country Deku to multi-continental on the low end, planetary on the high end, Asta. This wasn't a fight, it was a stomp.
Well nux clearly isn’t up with black clover
even Elf arc Ast slams Deku neg diff
Nux
You should really do your research on black clover that's all I'll say.
Watching people who don't have a full grasp and understanding of this media reacting to it will never be not funny
Nah bro gotta do his research Asta just have better feats in the Manga right now
Asta vs Mash would be a MUCH better match up.
Both magicless
Both use really unique "magic" (anti-magic and muscle-magic).
And they're relative in power and speed for the most part(at least some versions are).
But ofcourse! Mash is basically K-Popified Asta! 🤣 Jokes aside, i agree. Mash and Asta are much more similar than to Deku. Can't wait for Mash anime.
Idk pretty sure asta is trashing
I actually thought Nux was pretending to like Deku sarcastically over Asta so the MHA cringelords who have the peabrain of an ant would shut up about it.
But...Wait...hes actually serious?
LMFAO 🤣😆🤣😆😆
Nux is trolling I’m calling it
Before watching the video, what is there to debunk? This is a clear Asta W. Edit: Holy cow almost everything you said was wrong in some way or another, there's not enough space to explain everything you got wrong so I'll just leave the other comments for that
Today i learned nux doesn’t know black clover or mha that well xD
Still love the content tho
Saying we know astas power has to be relitive to the thing it negates, that his power would be immense. As
Asta could speed blitz and one shot langris who absorbed the salamanders flame and got even stronger than it, keep in mind it was stated that the salamander fire spirit could vaporize an entire ocean with a single talon.
Asta could defeat the word soul devil who was stronger than the first wizard king and the first wizard king could statedly block an attack from demon licht that could destroy all of humanity aka planet all at once. And the weakest demons from the underworld which he can one shot are all stronger than the word soul devil.
Asta could dog lucifero who was stated three times to be capable of destroying the planet just from his mere emergence.
He scales past Yami who can cut an endless dream void in half (saying that it was stated everything in Dorothys world is real, and we see several moons, he did more than cut empty space)
Capable of giving Julius problems who could destroy both 50% Luciferos in base.
Asta also does not lose his power after union mode, he is just limited to his base strength, and that scales to the time he walked through a gravity area that all the magic amped captains could not walk trough, while asta was in base and weakened.
And they also forgot his ability zeten which actuall came out before the chapter where deku used fajin, and zeten increases astas power by 60-100 times.
Deku has no chance in heak of beating Asta 😂
You know you're scratching the bottom of the barrel when your two opponents have little to nothing in common. I can see the theme been a ' no powers ' guy suddenly getting the Deux machina power of such world and turning overpowered but that's about it. Still happy Deku took the " L " though.
Honestly I’m glad that they pick opponents with vague similarities, because it would be boring if the characters would be so similar to a point where it’s basically a mirror match.
im pretty sure you mean deus ex machina as in god from the machine
deus meaning god
and not deux
im not trying to be a grammar police or anything as i am not good at
writing nor grammar
@@fossilking444 but that’s the best part.
character’s who have nearly the same power, but used differently, which way is stronger? How does their personal strength change it? I personally think that stuff is awesome.
@@L_______ No biggy. Good to know how is written. Officer... Hahaha. Not but thank you, seriously.
@@prim8512 Don’t get me wrong I do still enjoy that, but I just like it when two characters powers are so different from what they’re used too it’s nice to see them try to push through or adapt. Like how Asta reacted to Deku not using magic. Obi Wan vs Kakashi is one of my favorites for this reason.
Literally, 7 seconds in he says the animation looks like shit by looking at Deku for literally 2 seconds. Am I meant to take his criticism seriously? I mean when you don't understand that Deku saying "I just gotta hit him really hard" is meant to be a call back to Asta's line as well as forget that Deku used his other quirks while watching, then how can I take anything you say seriously? Especially when your reasoning for why Deku wins is that he is like Superman. And not understanding how physics works? Embarrassing.
Nux, problem is, all the destructive Feat Deku could do physically, Asta can match, EVEN WITHOUT ANTI MAGIC. Asta Survived Lucifero, what makes any of us think Deku's physical prowess is a problem for Asta?
Ps: but i agree. Death Battle can't justify their opinion objectively even if their life depends on it. So even if the Validity of the result is arguably right or wrong, none of it felt Justified, and seem that they just pulled results out of their assholes.
Asta is stronger than Deku in the manga, so the outcome didn't surprise me, what does surprise is how much they managed to downplay both Asta and Deku, especially Asta who didn't use his strongest form or sword, heck they used feats from the manga that were relatively early into the series, not accounting feats that make Asta look WAY better
bro used asta white clover.
deku isnt even strong compared to asta.
asta is mftl+ and planetary level. asta didnt even USE any abilities of his let alone his actual speed or strength
Asta is actually stronger.
In every category except IQ
And that is not because Asta is dumber but because he is a peasant orphan in a medieval society unlike deku who in a modern society only improved himself by having high scores in middle school.
He has battle iq
It’s funny how people actually thing deku has a chance against asta and they believe death battle wanted asta to win like bro, they downplayed asta entirely. Deku is barely even country level yet asta is literally planetary and above. Asta beat opponents that literally warp space and time yet. His opponents could literally destroy concepts themselves. Deku can’t beat asta is speed, strength, or endurance. They only ability that would be useful to deku vs asta would be gear shift and danger sense
I love nux but man he is not a power scaler 😂
You should watch Broku's video on how Death Battle wanted Asta to lose. Asta's feats are WAAAY higher than Deku's and they purposely left out some of Asta's newer forms of power i.e. true devil union and Zetten.
This fight makes sense, theme wise, but Death Battle knew that Asta just has way more over Deku. So they had to lowball Asta to make the fight seem even.
That's because they weren't nessasery opposed to Deku who needed the new stuff to keep up and the backlash they would have gotten for not mentioning it. And to not spoil the manga even though he still wins. Is that honestly a bad thing?
@@sk47moxie59 they showed Deku feats more recent that the new feats fir Asta, gearshift is more recent that both Zetten and True Devil Union, for fuck shake True Devil Union was 10 months ago and gearshift is 2 months and Zetten was introduced 1-2 weeks before gearshift
Did you pay attention to them admitting Asta AP stomps in the black box? He outright one-shots with that lol. The argument of 'they tried to make it even' falls apart with that.
@@cabbage164 a feat from chapter 140 in a manga with more that 340 is outdated, actual Asta is 2 years older
@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 Okay, that doesn't contradict anything I've said, since Asta one-shots regardless. If you think later abilties should've been included then that's fine, but I was responding to the point of the team apparently making it close to favor Deku when the evidence provided shows anything but.
Yeah, uh… Asta’s light speed dodge wasn’t a pre-cognition thing.
Asta was asleep, then sneezed in his sleep, and the force of the sneeze moved his head out of the way of a light speed lazer as it was coming at him.
But he did wake up and then started deflecting gauches Light attacks
What does Nux mean why does he think Deku would win 😭😭😭, Asta slaps
Cringe? You're a V-Tuber no offence 🙏😅
Add this to the list of:
"Complaints Nux only has since he didn't watch the rundown."