The Haven, on Gabriola Island
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- The Haven on Gabriola Island is a not for profit organization and registered educational instituion that teaches people how to have better lives through diversity and communication.
Producer/Reporter/Editor: Kait Burgan
Camera: Rae-Anne LaPlante
Jock is one of the most adorable human beings in the world. I have once seen him at a workshop. He is in every way the most natural embodiment of empathy, warmth, and openness. He’s like a baby puppy - he makes your heart melt like butter. And even though I never got to see Ben, his image continues to live on through Jock’s words. I became quite fond of Ben just by hearing Jock retell their stories.
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They went to court for abusing a thirteen year old and the haven is the worst thing that ever happened to me.
Could you expound on why it is the worst thing, without revealing anything you don't want to reveal? And, could you provide a link about the abuse of the young person? I am asking because I have been considering attending Come Alive. Thanks
Ms Down to earth I will get the link for you later. Can't at the moment but wanted to reply before shaw censors this. I was involved off and on from age eleven until twenty nine. Some people aren't seriously harmed. Many say it helped them. But I think a lot of those people are in denial. I sure as hell was. It's taken me a few years to face what happened. I was groomed more than others. They pick vulnerable people to be their pets. They have no training or ethics or boundaries. I was given meds not prescribed to me. I was asked to write academic papers for other people. Some programs get you to watch porn. The whole philosophy is based on what the rest of the counselling profession abandoned decades ago. Catharsis and emotional outbursts and confrontation. They make you speak using a script and will pick apart your language. I would say don't go at all. It's also ridiculously expensive. A lot of the people in denial completely crash after the program but think this is somehow a good thing. People have been taken away in ambulances from psychosis which the haven says is a choice. I learned to have no boundaries there as a child. They use participants to project whatever they like and get their own needs met. Not everyone is damaged the way I and some others were but I think it's generally unhealthy. They've banned me. One of the counsellors almost ran me over. I also had her counselling membership at another association taken away due to ethical misconduct. She never stopped being the director at haven. If you have any complaint you have to take them to court for anything to be done about it. The place is a cult. I've seen many give in to the culture of conformity and lack of boundaries. Luckily I'm learning healthy alternatives and healing but the journey of breaking free from that place has been hell.
Here is the link www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/1998/1998canlii4494/1998canlii4494.html?resultIndex=1
Thank you for answering my questions. I appreciate your honesty and wish you all the best.
And if you do go, and decide that you have "come alive," remember that people who take cocaine often feel the same way. In fact, research shows that religion activates a lot of the same areas of the brain as drugs do. The question of whether it is helpful should be more long-term. I can handle talking to people who've done a come alive. People who have spent years doing programs speak in really creepy ways... Robotic, desperate for boundaries to be crossed and sheep-like. And most people who find it hard to adjust to life after Haven decide that the solution is to go back to Haven! If you do go and mention me... My name isn't jo but they'll know who I am... I bet they will tell you that I just wasn't able to "get it." Their response to any criticism is that other people just aren't evolved enough to buy in... Keep all of that in mind if you go, and notice if you are finding yourself going along with a crowd... There have been others to criticize them but none on the level I have. None so ruthlessly. It is funny that an institution which teaches how to engage in conflict and dialogue simply refuses to communicate with me (as I have been critical of the institution.) As you know, these are all signs of a cult, not an educational or therapeutic institution, which explains why people feel they've "come alive." Very little, to my mind, separates a cult from a religion. Whatever the Haven is, it sure as hell isn't educational. And I believe they only refer to themselves as educational as the ethical requirements are much lower than they would be if they called themselves a therapeutic institution. They obviously come from the therapeutic mindset, rather than educational.
I didn't even know this place existed near Nanaimo. Strange watching this 5 years later know that Ben was ailing. He's in a great place one way or another.
People want to know if they're gay, they say that's irrelevant. Now we'll NEVER KNOW!!
labels serve no use? no where else have i been labelled so much. borderline, narcissistic, arrogant, entitled, blaming, and words i probably can't use on youtube... if you aren't using a negative label to describe others, you aren't being "personal". they use the same labels of the DSM's personality disorders, just call them "styles" rather than disorders. "the sin of pride" also made me chuckle.
祝福Ben!
I heard it was very cult like.