IT ACTUALLY WORKED!?! DIY Rock Grizzly (Rock Separator, How to Remove Rocks from Soil)
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Wow you guys have a ton of free foundation material. The old timers used that stuff to build their house foundations and chimneys. As well as rock walls.
👍I was thinking the same thing
i was thinking that and a nice fireplace
or a wall or walkway
Well, one could always use it for a stone fireplace or to cover a cinderblock foundation as a veneer. Hate to see it go to waste...:)
It can also be used to make drainage for all of the winter melt and rain coming off that hillside! The large rock would be a good retaining wall for raised bed gardening also!
You two are so cute together! thank you for the smiles and also the great hacks on a dime.
I love following all your projects and your overall progress. A nice, simple system for the separation of rocks and soil. Can't wait to see the home-building getting started. Best of luck.
This is the best of the 130 videos I watched yet of this channel, because it really motivates me to start something and see where it's getting before the winter instead of planning for weeks and nothing moves.
Beautiful! I'm not ready to dig my pond yet, but when I do I was wondering how I might save all the rocks. You are always setting a great example. :)
Another great video thank you, I would seriously be considering using all that rock and large stone as footing for your new home a nice 2 to 3 foot wall with timber framing on top would look stunning.
I just got done watching your explanation of the 'Click bait' issue with TH-cam. It is the best explanation I have seen yet! Thanks for taking the time to do a careful and detailed explanation. I think a lot of viewers can now understand what prompts so many creators to use this 'marketing' method. Please keep creating, we're still watching.
OMG!! I am so going to build a smaller version to separate/sift my compost!! Awesome! Thank you!
I just love how you guys show us what not to do or how you did it wasn't completely perfect... because when we go to do it and we see that ours wasn't perfect...and ours doesn't end up that way... we would be very sad... so I love the fact that you guys do what you're doing... I really appreciate your videos... thank you so much
Thank you for being a great example of husband and wife, working together. It is so refreshing to see a couple working happily together. I am sure you have your share of drama, but thanks for not letting it slip out there. You two are awesome!
Hey even with all its LITTLE issues, that was a great SOLUTION to a common problem people have during construction.
GREAT JOB you two.
You two are such fun people ! Thanks for sharing your tips and experiences.
I like that you aren't trying to show how to do something, but rather how you did it. Too many people make their content as a "This is how you do it". I just want to see your story and how you progress.
Love your ingenuity in resolving a situation! Great ideas and fun to watch!
Love, love, love water kefir! My favorite second ferment is to use a whole banana (give the goats or chickens the peel) and 1/3 of the peel and core of a washed and ripe pineapple. The peel actually has LOTS of flavor in it. I wash, peel and core a pineapple, then divide into 4 bags. Three of the bags have 1/3 of the peel and core, and, the fourth bag has the slices of pineapple. Then they are stored in the freezer until needed which means they only last about 10 days or so. Yum, yum!
It all looks like fun and worth it. I'll be out there soon tracing footsteps.
You guys rock! I used to work for a limestone quarry and we had a fabricated grizzly, but you got the job done
WHAT A PROCESS!! I'd have perhaps notched the frame verticals cross-wise and laid in rebar every 3-4 inches, then overlaid with hog panels. The fencing then would only flex to the extent of the rebar and could handle good size pieces.
You said that wood screws had low shear strength - - some are very high (I like SPAX from Home Depot - heat treated to grade 5 durability carbon steel - never broken one yet and used thousands [but not dropping 400# rocks on them]). I'm sure you didn't use any type of drywall screws - but others may not know that drywall screws are a NO GO for ANY structural project - very brittle.
Looking forward to seeing your progress. Very Exciting --- You guys WILL BE SO PUMPED when this project is DONE!
A typical mining grizzly we (I worked in a cement mill as a miller and heavy equipment operator for over 10yrs) made and used is similar to your final realization that you should have the front of the grizzly high enough to get a front end loader bucket into and the rear should be up high enough and have a solid wall so your front end loader bucket can push your filtered material in the back and allow you to scoop the material up We use to move it around with a wheeled front end loader
Our grizzly was made of very heavy steel I beam legs welded to a frame with welded on railroad track for filter rails spaced about 3-4" apart. It filtered down to about 3-4" or less, It was used to filter crushed stone, gypsum and clinker.
So far you seem to be surviving spring better than some other folks in the area. Good job!
You guys do such a great job with your channel. The playlists, content, and personality; excellent! Ty!
Make your own *Gabions* now too, for retaining walls
I see an amazing fireplace and chimney made with these rocks. I just came back from a friends gorgeous home and they have a chimney made out of this type of rock and is is stunning.
Thanks for what you are showing people, it proves that people can do anything when they put their minds to it.
That rock would make a really nice looking slip-form house, it's one of the building methods i considered while researching what you guys are doing (diy home building).
With your time off to get your timber frame up I have be rewatching all of your videos. I have enjoyed your whole series of videos, and of everything I have seen, your rock grzzly has been most impressive. You have an awesome ingenuity!
you two sure give me lots of smiles. thanks.
I love watching you 2 as you are so entertaining and helpful info all at once
I recommend using some of the rocks you have now to make sun traps. Essentially it is a C shaped mound of rock with the open side facing South. You then place your planting beds inside the C. The rocks will absorb heat during the day and radiate it back to your plants at night. Also consider looking into Gabion walls.
WOW, this is the plan for this summer at my place. Love your videos
great Job!! When my grandfather did it you need to angle the 2x4 into a V shape where the rocks hit the small opening of the V so and then the cross braces need to be reinforced to the frame then place a V brace on top that is reinforced by the frame and pick up the hole ting by the v top....
Awesome idea ! Way to go I am shocked that it held up to those big rocks ! We used to live in southern Idaho and you couldn't dig a hole any where because two-6 inches under the top you were into big river rock like what you have ! thus a fence or any kind of post project was a nightmare ! I hated it but, they grew great patatoes there where they are faous for them ! I loved your solution and the way you work through your setbacks !!! Makes me not feel like I am not the only one that runs into problems ! Thanks !
Great video. I am glad that you have equalized the 2 different personalities. It truly does make your videos so much better. Thanks for taking the constructive criticism.
Thanks for the video. You have put so much personality into this video (and info for that matter) I love it.
This is perfect timing! I've got exactly this problem on the site I'm building my house on (in England) and need to separate stone from soil on a broken down old field wall (probably been lying like this for 200 years approx so all the stone has sunk into the soil.). Thanks for showing this - making my own next weekend!
If you need to get more then just the large rocks out look at a barrel trommel. A sloped frame holds the barrel on casters and you drill holes just smaller then the size of the rock you want to separate out. A motor and belt to spin the barrel and you just have to feed material in one end and get rocks out the other and the soil falling under it.
One barrel can do all the work but multiple let you separate all the sizes of rock for later use doing a pass for each size.
You both are very entertaining. I'm impressed that rock hasn't killed your will. I hadn't heard of water kefir until you posted it on Instagram.
This video shows you at your best which is using your personalities and humor. Keep it up.
i love your work and hope you both are together for 75 years or more keep up the good work
My name is Glenn and I have watched all of your videos that you have posted and have to say. Good for you. I have a background in construction and heavy equipment operations and plan on taking the same route has you in the near future. My women and I live in southern Ontario Canada and want to move to Alberta. Off grid living is the route that we want to go when we get there and I will be using your experiences from your videos as a blueprint with some twists. thanks for all the great info and keep up the good work and videos.
fun and informative thank you you two seem like you be nice to be around.
Fun video guys. Glad the grizzly works. More rain on the way, checked the forecast earlier. Kind of a natural soda pop, that's good for you. Thanks for posting.
Love it can't wait to see how the rest of spring goes :-) Congrats on surviving winter
Change your fencing to some chainlink, lasts longer, and space your boards to the size exclusion.. As you discovered, great sympathy, seasonal sluff as back fill ; 1 is not graded, 2 is not compacted.
See if you have a neighbor with an unused cattle grate, it works.
The size of the gaps in the chain link fence will be your exclusion size. You better option would be steel hardware cloth that you buy in rolls at the hardware store. It comes in various sizes and is reasonably strong.
A wire fence panel would probably work pretty good. If there are some farms in your area, they might some old ones lying around. A piece of remesh would be good also. But, I suggest putting a couple lengths of rebar at the top where you drop the dirt and rocks to absorb some of the impact.
Tim Kirkpatrick the cheapest most effective way is to utilize rebar welded together to make your screen. I made 2 different sizes to grade rock from our Creek for road maintenance. I used 1/2" rebar welded in 4.5" squares to remove the large unusable parts and to manufacture material for rough grade and made one with 3/8" rebar welded into 1.75" squares to manufacture a fine finish material. This is fairly affordable,its been a while since I bought any rebar (probably 2003 ) but if I remember correctly 20' sticks cost less than a 10'-12' treated 2×6 and I am still using them so very cost effective! I initially used 4×4T for the perimeter frame but eventually swapped to angle and channel iron when I improved the setup and hinged the lower end to lift up to shake and to move out of the way to facilitate loading material on to 24' conveyor belt that I purchased from a landscape contractor that used it to load top soil. I built a large hopper to aid in loading gravel and firewood into my old dump truck (formerly an old Arkansas highway dept. truck that I bought very cheap) this may sound elaborate and probably would be just to fill one trench but I have to maintain our driveway and short road and have less than $2200.00 in the dump truck and conveyor and steel to manufacture my rock graders, but I imagine with a little creative purchasing you could build the rock screen for $100. bucks or so....
Putting rebar above the wood for impact limit is a good idea. Old water pipe works well for the same purpose, I have seen this done. Expanded lath works too. Welded mesh mire screen is a good second and third size sort, but will be beat to hell if on the first sort layer.
Old cattle crossing grate is still my winner.
Tim Kirkpatrick Yes a heavy water or black gas pipe would probably do the job if you had access to a pile of used material, but new would be cost prohibitive. As far as the rebar goes I didn't have it over the wood only 4×4 perimeter frame with a single 2.5" schedule 40 galvanized steel pipe across the center to add a little rigidity,but as long as the rebar is secured properly on the perimeter could probably live without center support depending on size of load being dumped.My frames are 10'×10' and my bucket on my tractor is 84" so I can dump depending on material and moisture content,quite a bit more than a ton.So even as heavy as I have built mine I still have to be careful not to shock it by dropping 3000lbs at once and I can't imagine any fencing lasting more than a few minutes even expanded metal would be trashed at the end of the day in this environment.A Texas gate would be a fair starting point if you had a couple junk ones laying around but the only one I have I drive across every day and it would limit the size of your grading substantially,unless you completely disassembled it and rebuilt and in that case your original idea of pipe would be better,but after putting this much thought into it again (hasn't crossed my mind since 2003 when I built,which I guess is a good thing it must mean it's working) I will have to stand by my rebar rock grader on any scale be it a small one for a back hoe or excavator bucket or a larger heavier one for a large loader bucket is the simplest and most cost effective method....
brilliant idea on the rock separator
Those are gorgeous rocks - over the years, im sure you will find many uses for them.
can't wait for the summer project videos! keep on keepin on!
you guys love each other and thats great to see today
I did the same thing with the loam in my backyard. Only difference is I went 2'oc and used chain link. Worked great.
ingenious. good stuff, good to see you found a solution.
for the ribbing, using iron pipe and flanges bolted to the ends I think would stay attached fairly well. Being hollow it shouldn't be too heavy, but they may bend under repeated loads though
Pretty clever! Good job! don't over work the body on those big rocks let the machine move most. Then enjoy life after it is all done.
I never thought of using wood for a soil screen that's a fantastic idea,,,, thanks
Someone's probably already said this but I know you can buy finger style jaws for an excavator that will let you pick up just the rocks while the diet sifts through the fingers... I bet you could jerry-rig something similar! Nice video as always, thanks!
Skeleton buckets, saves a lot of time and money
Flexxifinger Quicker Picker Rock Picker. It looks like a trash can with slits. And it spins.
You guys are having too much fun! You know that “River Rock” ya got tons of there makes a mighty fine looking foundation for a house.
Yep I have made and used plenty of soil sifters in my time landscaping.
With glacial till like your property has this is going to be something you will be using a lot. I would also suggest you figure out some projects to utilize those rocks as they are going to pile up fast. Even if it is just making some dry stack rock walls with them you would be well served to start utilizing them before it becomes a giant project to get them out of the way.
Something you might consider doing with the rock is building a "dry creek" or two on the hill that could help channel spring melt to specific areas. Like to your garden space.
Awesome video kids! Keep em' coming!
Not too bad, it was interesting. I liked it when you fast forwarded Mr. Verbosity. Please keep doing that.
Really enjoyed the video, as usual, keep up the good work.
I too would have thought you may use all those stones as gabions! Retaining walls, ideal for your sloping block readily come to mind along with many other uses.
Thanks for the vids.
Very ingenious using materials you have on hand.
I would have put the top and bottom wood bars underneath the uprights,
similar to bearers under joists of a wooden floor.
omg, u guys are great. never had water Keefer, but made my own milk keefer.
I really like your videos and the ideas you come up with and the fact that you are willing to put it all on video you will be able to look back one day and say "Wow did I do that ?" or "Wow we were fortunate" but then you will be able to say "We struggled and learned but look what we done!" so don't stop now keep on going, and one other thing to think about is modular construction that is build your house in sections or layers or segments, like an Octagon building a section or two at a time and expanding as you can afford to and have the time and strength. And your first section may be a garage where you could move the RV in and have easy access to the rest of the sections without shoveling snow and your wood stove would heat the garage and construction as you set it up.Sometimes when you put a plastic tank in the ground and its empty even if you back fill around it the hole that the tank was installed in can hold water and the tank can possibly float upward. There are two ways to prevent this one is fill the tank with water and the other method is to build a French drain away from the hole where the tanks are installed, that can be a trench that starts at the bottom of the hole where the tanks are installed and the trench is dug away from the tanks sloping down as the trench is dug to a ditch or lower spot on the property, then back fill the trench with the boulders with the big boulders and the air space left with the boulder backfill will drain the water from the tank hole excavation so the water cannot build-up and the tanks will not float.One other item, on your Grizzly (Grrr) you are not using the strength of the lumber to screen your dump loads, you built a normal stud wall and laid it on a ~45 degree then you used 2 4x4's as legs to stand it up. Doing it this way you are relying on the screws in shear to take the load of the bucket dump not a rugged enough design, a fix to this would be to build another stud wall and put the wall where you had the 4x4 posts installed, put a double header on the short stud wall and a double footer and place this wall in the location of the 4x4 posts, this way the grizzly floor joist pieces will be bearing down on the double header and you will have to crush the stud wall to fail the grizzly with this method you are using the strength of the wood and not just the shear of the screws. Actually you could build a 2 foot stud wall and a 6 foot stud wall and lay your Grizzly stud wall on the other two walls and secure, if you put the grizzly bars the spacing of the rock you want to keep out you don't need screen. Add some cross braces from the stud walls to the grizzly bars and set the 4x4 as skids under the stud walls and then as you are digging the trench you can slide the grizzly along on the 4x4 skids as you dig the trench. Then you could use the fines to back fill around the buried pipe and then backfill with the boulders or something else. I mean this in the best way, but you need to learn to use the strength of the wood in your construction, screws, nails and pins are just to hold the wood in place the arrangement of the wood or timber has to be built to take the maximum load, you will fail at post and beam construction or timber framing if you do not master this. Good Luck!
Hi Pure Living for Life we love watching your videos. we love what your doing to your homestead. y'all have a blessed Day.
Gold miners look for that kind of rock to indicate pay dirt. Pan some you never know.
Your vids are fun.
I came here because I watch all Wranglerstar uploads, I love your open honest uploads. You have a new subscriber and a thumbs up. Tony from England.
great idea.i think if you put some boards at the top so when you drop rocks on it maybe it may take the force of the rocks dropping better than the mesh .cheers
All that river rock would make an awesome fireplace surround or under a bar in your new house.
Beside chain link fence. You can use cow or hog panels for your filtering screen. You can overlap the panels to adjust screen size.
You guys do fun projects. Love your vids.
A very important part of installing any buried utility, even 6" rock has caused us problems with small lines. When we did about 150' feet of trench for water, propane and electric we built a similar set up between two trees and a couple of pilings. 6-8 inch logs lashed with chain for the main runners and 2-4 inch ceders horizontally with old piece if chain link on top.
Thank you for your videos. Your tips are so useful.
Great tutorial and inspired me to build one...thanks.
When I was a kid, my parents house was on the edge of a dried up riverbed (lots of river stone). Grandpa came for a stay and was aghast that we didn't have a garden. He built a much smaller version of your grizzly. Four upright legs, diagonals to prevent racking, and hardware cloth as screening material.
Fast forward to my adulthood and I replicated Grandpa's design (in google sketchup) and then I built it. Key feature is that it's high enough off the ground that you can put a child's radio flyer wagon or garden dump wagon/wheel barrow either under the lip of the screen to catch the rock, or under the center of the screen to catch the fine.
I also used the screener to process my compost harvest - I'd specifically built it small enough that the four legs fit within one of those tow behind riding mower dump cart. Worked great for about 3 years until a dead tree fell on it and collapsed it beyond repair.
Thanks guys. You are awesome!
You guys are so genius!! Love your videos!
Instead of using garden fencing, they make cattle panels that are made with 1/4 in. metal rods, that have something like a 6 inch opening. And they are fairly light, a 4 x 8 ft. panel can be carried by one person. This will help a ton to protect the wood. Also for the 2 or 3 2x6's, that get hit with most the weight, put some angle iron on them.
So. Many. Rocks. I've been bitching about too many pebbles all year.
That was really interesting, thank you! I'm very impressed with your ingenuity!
Maybe a critter-ladder for the pit?
I just love you guys! Thanks so much for sharing your journey with us
I LIKE your videos! Thanks for the upbeat schooling!
You could use the rocks in gabions (wire cages) - maybe near your steps to reduce the what looks like soil erosion at the sides?
I have some videos to catch up on. love your vids.
That's seriously cool.
Great (or should I say *grate*) job, guys! Two thumbs up.
Steve
Heck, i think i will get a placer mining claim and use the rocks for thermal mass. Thanks for the clear tutorials.
I really like the idea of elevating the DIY rock grizzly... you could even put a rock sled to pull the rocks off to another location.
Very well done.
If I may suggest is placing a 2x6 upright under the 45 deg screen beams bolted to the 4x4 for added support. It would look like a deck with a over hang from the support beam.
I especially enjoyed the outtro music! Great video!
great idea. thanks for video
i just luv you guys, your my top video producers on youtube, you know, winters can be long and by the time you get let loose with spring in the air and all of your ideas from winter, your ready to go go go.....for the grizzly fabric, how would the wire mess they use when pouring concrete slabs, and if you want or need to make the openings smaller, just put another layer on the first except put it on at a different angle....
Great video! Cheers
The first glimpse I had of all the rock you have, the first thing that came to mind was a stone house or barn.
Great video!
Hope you are having a great day!
Great Idea, I have lots of rocks on my property also, could use the same method.
Another case of necessity mothering invention. Great idea. Keep up the good work.
You could build an additional screen so that you separate out the big rocks, separate out the medium stuff for fill and finer material for gardening. Then you can just mix in organics from the compost.
There is also the 55 gallon barrel trommel idea. A 55 gallon barrel with holes just under the size of the smallest rocks you want to separate on a slanted frame will drop anything smaller then the holes under it and anything larger out the end. A motor and belt to spin and you can have a number of barrels to go from large to small to get every type of gravel out.
You would still want something to remove the large rocks before it gets to the barrel as they would dent it as they bounce around inside.
Y'all should do a little gold panning with some of the full dirt. All that round washed river rock is a really good sign.
If you still need it one suggestion for your grizzly check the wire mesh use to reinforce concrete wall or floor ( Wire Mesh 9/9g x 6 Inch x 6 Inch x 3.5 Feet x 7 Feet) you can adjust the screen size with the overlapping this stuff look tough.
Cool video, I need to make a rock grizzly thing too. I think we have a metal pallet that I might use instead. Thanks. Really like your videos.
WOW look at all the great ROCKS, building material for retaining walls and fencing, using heavy gage wire and yes recycled chain link can create so much.