Idk why he said that tbh... Inaros got good damage too. Especially grouping up enemies with 2, pressing 4 on them, applying the corrosive and then having even more corrosive with melee exposure
Question for companions, specifically sentinels. I was always under the impression that you needed assault mode/calculated shot to enable the sentinel to attack. But his build doesn't have that equipped? Am I wasting a mod slot?
This a very creative build, I’m wondering if one uses all of the archon mods with her 2nd will it proc many of those benefits, I know her 4th does radiation damage as well. I added nourish because I wanted to be able to add an extra layer of damage.
Hahaha, you going off about the damage reduction not being used expect that one person when I recently watched a MHBlacky video about possibly using that for Inaros build. I love this
In my opinion, the helminth version of eclipse should be around 50% from mirage's base stats. So ~100% damage increase *base* instead of the current 30% or the old 150%. That would still be less then before but strong enough to make eclipse viable. Or let it have the same effect as roar lmao.
Im actually using your former prism nuke build but replaced transient fortitude with blind rage and the 2nd ability with nourish. It works really well.
My lord, I am new player and have been saying "I wish i could switch the DMG buff to be tap instead of hold" and when i saw 1:50 let me tell you i was going to cry. Thank you
Profit taker honestly I think Chroma is more viable. Vex Armor gives a lot of armor and damage so you can pretty much shred profit taker (as you can with a lot of other things) and also don't die (really low level enemies, vex armor is more than enough). I do this and cheese it in like 2 mins or something. I tried using volt cuz why not and It is also really fun but Chroma does the job for me.
Might be a stupid question but why are you using Archon stretch instead on streact on Mirage? She doesn't have any electrical damage from abilities in that set-up does she?
I know this isn't meta for a lot of people but I swear by my Rhino thermal sunder build. Max efficiency, good bit of range and as much strength as you can get.
I'm sorry but Loki with eclipse slaps, that 75% damage reduction is enough to increase survivability paired with safeguard teleport and rolling guard you're almost invincible. And the damage increase if you run molt augmented isn't too bad. But yeah it's not what it used to be.
@@Noob4745 there's gonna be moments where you're out of energy or getting energy leeched or even the few split seconds while you're not invisible in high level game play could get you killed if you don't have some kind of survivability. But ok
@@DeskDriver arcane energize, energy nexus, nourish, Lycath's hunt, wellspring/hardned wellspring, Vazaring, rolling guard, the augment, operator mode. So many ways to survive and have energy
Ok so I assume the favonius codex isnt like a thing anymore? Cause the internet is a wasteland of garbage on any info on it. First Knightmare frame video has left me red hot mad with trying to figure out info that would have taken 2 seconds to explain. thanks.
At one point I could not follow the movement because I had the video on 2x speed. Really caused to strain my eyes, wow. Anyways, sounds like a good build, but would have to transfer shards across the board. Also, can not gain arcane energizer, there is that problem.
Can someone tell me which build is better? Gun build or prism. Prism looks very good with armour strip and high kpm but seems more complicated. I don’t have arcane energise so was gonna go with the gun build. Can anyone offer me some advice? I’m mr 12
I thought the devs said that the changes to eclipse was going to basically turn it into a serration, which would be additive to your base damage. Am I missing something? Why is it so strong on her? A bug?
@@Rizalinlpl97 but what if I don’t want to use vazarin dash, it’s such a “god mode” card it feels sooooooooo boring to use “yay look at me it literally doesn’t matter what frame I play because I can use my kid every few seconds” for the ENTIRE GAME look I’m down to press buttons and use my brain but HAVING to spam your kid just to stay alive is repetitive and locks you into a mindset
thats not how it works its not 100 damage with 50% dmg reduction + 50% dmg reduction = 100% dmg reduction = 0 damage no it means 100 x 0.5 = 50 dmg then again 50 x 0.5 = 25 dmg so no stacking two 50% dmg reduction wont make you invincible
Mesa's Shatter Shield is 95% projectile damage reduction at max, combined with Eclipse which is multiplicative to Shatter Shield, her damage reduction to projectile is 98.3375%. Mesa is not completely invisible to gunfire, and definitely not against melee enemy or Bombard's explosion.
@@noahedenborg4221 Yea but i'm going to use this build everywhere x3 Prism for Killing trash, and the rest, for demolyst, accolytes, kuva lich/sister, etc
Knightmare saying the 90% dr from eclipse is useless on other frames... My m8 kullervo and any frame without shieldgating would like to have a word. Yes im aware eclipse alone wont keep me alive but i still prefer running eclipse than Kullervo's in endurance runs since with adaptation you get the same survivability as a maxed out Nidus (without the passive but thats what i use overguard gating for)
This doesnt have to do anything with the video but GOD BLESS THE SOUL OF THE MF WHO MADE THE NEW ENEMY DROP 3 ENTRATI LANTHORNS it has made my life worth living again
why not use the damage reduction?? if you play a dmg frame or use weapons that don't need a damage buff then this is a good way to stay alive. especially with mirage.
this build is very expensive and very mid. recommended 5 Tauforged shards, Primed Sure Footed (time gated mod) and one of the best Kuva weapons. all that second build is, is running around with a damage buff and using an AOE weapon. other frames can do the same thing but better and for cheaper. the first one is straight buns. "never use the damage negation buff" actually insane. survivability only comes from Rolling Guard and terrify as a crowd control lmao. you cant even full strip till you build Molt and have a specific Focus School. if you didnt choose that school you need to farm Molt even more. how are you gunna make a snowball build with low survivability. also recommending the Grimoire while having Primed Flow, Arcane Energize, Archon Stretch, and Equilibrium for more energy sustainability without a grouping ability AND terrify? both builds are a complete waste of resources, and it misguides new players or people that dont have a lot of knowledge of the game.
I run pillage instead of prism and have 656% damage buff and destroy everything this in my opinion is not as good as the build I made from watching this at least could be wrong got my build from overframe and tweaked it.
Nighmareframe, excalibur umbra has an augment that makes him no longer run and shot when you are in operator, can you make a umbra build next time please ?😢
I mean, it is lore. Umbra is sentient by itself, so it makes sense. You can always use Normal Excal, which is way better. I think the mechanic is really good and gives character to Umbra. And no, you shouldn't be able to turn it off in the settings. Maybe a quest where you end with Umbra's sentience and at the end you can choose to end it's sentience or not do it. I don't know why you think that you should be able to turn it off (I understand the reasons) but Lore is part of warframe. That's my opinion at the end of the day, so if DE actually makes us able to turn it off I won't be bothered because it's their choice.@@noel5682
DE destroying its own game, we made many others frames based on eclipse but all is destroyed. Because they analyze data of all players which is a wrong way. And people who think its not a balance game lets debuff stuff, why than Players should struggle to farm stuff if they keep doing this debuff eventually we will switch to other games, maybe Soul Frame and its what they really want from us ;)
What about stacking Roar and eclipse together though >_>, Cos I legit thought thats what you would go for when you were talking about how roar stacks with the lasers lol.
@@Grimllord I know, like I said in my comment, I figured he would do that, instead of wave of terror, given how he was talking about how roar synergises well with her abilities.. But I guess armour strip will always be better than big numbers.
@@noahedenborg4221 Cos I am hoping its something he may see and do in future. How the fuck is that so hard to grasp. Yall just want to start things over nothing cos you cant take a few seconds to contextualize a statement. smh. Anyway, muting your ass so regardless of what you say, wont see shit till kingdom come. Peace.
Yeah the fact they gutted eclipse helminth is by far the dumbest thing de have ever done and they've done exactly the same with other ability strength ability strength helminths
Because most TH-camrs only care about big funny numbers instead of the dr more casual players would use (I never went over level 3k nor do I care about going that high)
Bro are you putting destiny 2 weapon names over some of your weapons? 😂 I saw mida mini tool last time and full on thought you could get it and saw the other half in this one now I’m wondering if those are actual weapons 😂
1:12 I feel attacked lol 😖😂
men of culture
You should
Idk why he said that tbh... Inaros got good damage too. Especially grouping up enemies with 2, pressing 4 on them, applying the corrosive and then having even more corrosive with melee exposure
@@zacenal2872 its a joke
Same
I'm glad my main is finally more consistent, that old Eclipse was teaching you some weird habits of pixel hunting to get dmg bonus.
We all know it's only a matter of time before Aznvasions finds a way to make the damage reduction Helminth Eclipse somehow nuke 5 tiles at once.
👀
lol
Equip with sure foot for too long I already forgot what's warframe feel like without it.
without it = floor PoV
I use Handspring if I can't be bothered to forma.
Same
Cc
That or warframe that just innately don't care about cc
So yay i don't need to forma for prime sure-footed
"The floor looks real floory today"
-getting pummeled by 15 grineer
Mirage can get it 🙏😭
Amen
Real
ong 😍
Mirage can get my wrathful advance
Ongggg
Question for companions, specifically sentinels. I was always under the impression that you needed assault mode/calculated shot to enable the sentinel to attack. But his build doesn't have that equipped? Am I wasting a mod slot?
its only if u want the sentinel to shoot
This a very creative build, I’m wondering if one uses all of the archon mods with her 2nd will it proc many of those benefits, I know her 4th does radiation damage as well. I added nourish because I wanted to be able to add an extra layer of damage.
tap vs hold was my suggestion immediately when they started taking them. Mirage OG. Mirage OP.
Hahaha, you going off about the damage reduction not being used expect that one person when I recently watched a MHBlacky video about possibly using that for Inaros build. I love this
Because MHBlacky was clickbaiting and that video was full of inconsistencies.
Hmm yes dmg
idk why but for some reason i feel like caustcyst influence could be a (but copium) option for armor strip
btw its 138 not 128
Knightmare dropping vids like the rent due 😂. Good vid
In my opinion, the helminth version of eclipse should be around 50% from mirage's base stats. So ~100% damage increase *base* instead of the current 30% or the old 150%. That would still be less then before but strong enough to make eclipse viable.
Or let it have the same effect as roar lmao.
Im actually using your former prism nuke build but replaced transient fortitude with blind rage and the 2nd ability with nourish. It works really well.
My lord, I am new player and have been saying "I wish i could switch the DMG buff to be tap instead of hold" and when i saw 1:50 let me tell you i was going to cry. Thank you
So for the wisp contagion it's better to use roar now instead of eclipse?
no cus u can still use faction mods and since thats raw dmg and not dot eclipse is more dmg
No eclipse still does more damagr (although its sooooo much better on mirage than wisp cuz you get og eclipse damage)
As for profit taker, would i still use eclipse or should i change for roar?
keep
Profit taker honestly I think Chroma is more viable. Vex Armor gives a lot of armor and damage so you can pretty much shred profit taker (as you can with a lot of other things) and also don't die (really low level enemies, vex armor is more than enough). I do this and cheese it in like 2 mins or something. I tried using volt cuz why not and It is also really fun but Chroma does the job for me.
4:00 Also Roar gets bonus points because it can buff teammates without an augment.
What’s your mirage fashion?
Hey man! That Chroma build you showed the other day!
You think it was severely affected by the nerf on Eclipse?
Don’t even use the build anymore
Bro , instead of primed sure footage (that I don't have lol) I could use handspring ? or it is not good enough ?
yes
Might be a stupid question but why are you using Archon stretch instead on streact on Mirage? She doesn't have any electrical damage from abilities in that set-up does she?
it is stupid because there's a whole section explaining it. lesson: don't skip and listen.
@@KnightmareFrame I am a Warframe player I'm not supposed to have that much attention spawn
Anyway I did find the answer in the section indeed, thanks
@@KnightmareFrame have you noticed the only time you respond to questions is to tell them they're stupid for missing it in the video? Just saying.
I just came back to this game had no idea they changed eclipse no wonder it felt like I wasn’t doing as much damage as I thought
Holy shit man the inverted tip is sick i didnt even know about it, thanks!
will the kuva bramma work on the weapons build?
Ngl I feel like it would, especially with some multishot
Just a question. What do we replace eclipse with for eidolons?
smite infusion and roar
nothing we keept it
Great! Got her in Deep Archimedea
I know this isn't meta for a lot of people but I swear by my Rhino thermal sunder build. Max efficiency, good bit of range and as much strength as you can get.
I am just coming back to warframe.
But how do you get the Terrify ability?
get normal nekros and feed him to your helminth
Any other suggestion gor her 2? Nourish or roar?
I'm sorry but Loki with eclipse slaps, that 75% damage reduction is enough to increase survivability paired with safeguard teleport and rolling guard you're almost invincible. And the damage increase if you run molt augmented isn't too bad. But yeah it's not what it used to be.
He's an Invisible frame...
@@Noob4745 there's gonna be moments where you're out of energy or getting energy leeched or even the few split seconds while you're not invisible in high level game play could get you killed if you don't have some kind of survivability. But ok
@@DeskDriver Rolling guard
@@DeskDriver arcane energize, energy nexus, nourish, Lycath's hunt, wellspring/hardned wellspring, Vazaring, rolling guard, the augment, operator mode. So many ways to survive and have energy
Ok so I assume the favonius codex isnt like a thing anymore? Cause the internet is a wasteland of garbage on any info on it. First Knightmare frame video has left me red hot mad with trying to figure out info that would have taken 2 seconds to explain. thanks.
How long does your prism guard last
been using mirage this past week to hunt liches and eidolon, the buff is so frickin good.
what is better on wisp exodia contagion build? roar or new eclipse or something else?
I'd say xata
At one point I could not follow the movement because I had the video on 2x speed. Really caused to strain my eyes, wow. Anyways, sounds like a good build, but would have to transfer shards across the board. Also, can not gain arcane energizer, there is that problem.
How is manifold bond working on this wyrm? Idk if it got changed but I thought it doesnt work on negate and I don’t see anything else
Can someone tell me which build is better? Gun build or prism. Prism looks very good with armour strip and high kpm but seems more complicated. I don’t have arcane energise so was gonna go with the gun build. Can anyone offer me some advice? I’m mr 12
I thought the devs said that the changes to eclipse was going to basically turn it into a serration, which would be additive to your base damage. Am I missing something? Why is it so strong on her? A bug?
they reverted that change before it came out because if it was base dmg it would be USELSS
@@noahedenborg4221 oh okay. Thanks
I liked the damage reduction on Voruna’s 4 to stay alive while out of invis and doing DMG with more QOL 🤷🏽♂️
I mean we do have vanzarin dash 🤷, like why u want get damaged or hit in the 1st place, sounds like fool for me somehow 🤓
@@Rizalinlpl97 but what if I don’t want to use vazarin dash, it’s such a “god mode” card it feels sooooooooo boring to use “yay look at me it literally doesn’t matter what frame I play because I can use my kid every few seconds” for the ENTIRE GAME look I’m down to press buttons and use my brain but HAVING to spam your kid just to stay alive is repetitive and locks you into a mindset
What would mirage be ranked now with the changes?
My main has now achieved her perfect form
(*CELL THEME STARTS BLASTING*)
If you have eclipse and mesa’s shatter shield active at the same time (both above 50%) doesn’t that make Mesa invincible?
thats not how it works
its not 100 damage with 50% dmg reduction + 50% dmg reduction = 100% dmg reduction = 0 damage no
it means 100 x 0.5 = 50 dmg
then again 50 x 0.5 = 25 dmg
so no stacking two 50% dmg reduction wont make you invincible
Mesa's Shatter Shield is 95% projectile damage reduction at max, combined with Eclipse which is multiplicative to Shatter Shield, her damage reduction to projectile is 98.3375%. Mesa is not completely invisible to gunfire, and definitely not against melee enemy or Bombard's explosion.
@@Xul-Xata oh yea I forgot shatter shield only works against projectiles.
good video man! like
is this build still viable?
Can I replace Terror with Tharros Strike for level cap content ? Like Disruption, for demolyst
first off that build was for 4 nuking
so yes but also no
@@noahedenborg4221 Yea but i'm going to use this build everywhere x3
Prism for Killing trash, and the rest, for demolyst, accolytes, kuva lich/sister, etc
@@okro_vareex doesnt sound that would work
Is there anything good with the new lokis augment?
no cus right now its buggy
@@noahedenborg4221 oh okay, i thought it was me not knowing how to use it xd
It between 90-80% nerfed to the helmith .. while roar was nerfed 40%. If eclipse was nerfed exactly like roar then it would be 90% .
Knightmare saying the 90% dr from eclipse is useless on other frames... My m8 kullervo and any frame without shieldgating would like to have a word. Yes im aware eclipse alone wont keep me alive but i still prefer running eclipse than Kullervo's in endurance runs since with adaptation you get the same survivability as a maxed out Nidus (without the passive but thats what i use overguard gating for)
@6:10 You can’t make be use casting speed. Her 1st ability animation needs to be even slower. 👌🏻
How you make eclipse visual effect looks like roar ish?
I thought they were nerfing her base ability aswell or am I buggin?
And if i put both eclipse and roar on mirage ?
absolute perfection or litterally dead 6 times in the first minute gotta love knightmareframe builds
For eidolon hunt what’s best to replace it wit?
well since blessings is faction eclipse
and if ur the limb dps u dont change since 2 volts 1 eclipse 1 roar
Have the fixed the bug where you can't see through mirage clones with the augment equiped?
Inaros always catching strays on your channel LOL
Brozime and khightmareframe never disappoints.
So now do we switch eclipse for roar on eidolon hunting ?
nope
roar still best
This doesnt have to do anything with the video but GOD BLESS THE SOUL OF THE MF WHO MADE THE NEW ENEMY DROP 3 ENTRATI LANTHORNS it has made my life worth living again
I tried the inverse button setting and it didn’t work
How's it floating above your Head?
hows what floating
augment
@@ramonjurak7678 the build showed doesnt have it
why not use the damage reduction?? if you play a dmg frame or use weapons that don't need a damage buff then this is a good way to stay alive. especially with mirage.
well cus u can move and have ur 1 on and ur 2 can sometimes be well a flashbang
this build is very expensive and very mid. recommended 5 Tauforged shards, Primed Sure Footed (time gated mod) and one of the best Kuva weapons. all that second build is, is running around with a damage buff and using an AOE weapon. other frames can do the same thing but better and for cheaper. the first one is straight buns. "never use the damage negation buff" actually insane. survivability only comes from Rolling Guard and terrify as a crowd control lmao. you cant even full strip till you build Molt and have a specific Focus School. if you didnt choose that school you need to farm Molt even more. how are you gunna make a snowball build with low survivability. also recommending the Grimoire while having Primed Flow, Arcane Energize, Archon Stretch, and Equilibrium for more energy sustainability without a grouping ability AND terrify? both builds are a complete waste of resources, and it misguides new players or people that dont have a lot of knowledge of the game.
WE'RE the ones eating good with all these build drops😭🙏
Can you make mirage with Roar helminth and combine it with Eclipse so I can see funny number
With the new mirage change
u cant
like literally cant
roar eclipse amp xata and vex armor cant be on the same frame
i feel called out with the inaros comment
I run pillage instead of prism and have 656% damage buff and destroy everything this in my opinion is not as good as the build I made from watching this at least could be wrong got my build from overframe and tweaked it.
Nah I want my 99,98% damage reduction on Baruuk
Kinda feel attacked with my inaros and eclipse for dmg reduction hahaha
1:32 better check if its safe, might be booby trapped. Few times.
Everytime
bro I didn't know you needed to hold eclipse now iv'e been playing with damage reduction since they made the update 😂
Mid season tier list ??🔥🔥
Can someone help me find out where the Favonius drops or how to get it?
did you ever find out?
Nighmareframe, excalibur umbra has an augment that makes him no longer run and shot when you are in operator, can you make a umbra build next time please ?😢
HA no
cus its bs that they didnt jsut fix the bugs or have an option to turn tha toff
why tf is that an augment?
1st of all, it shouldnt be bugged in the first place
2nd of all, it should be a turn on/off option in warframe settings.
Normal excalibur is still better cause you dont have to waste your exilus slot
I mean, it is lore. Umbra is sentient by itself, so it makes sense. You can always use Normal Excal, which is way better. I think the mechanic is really good and gives character to Umbra. And no, you shouldn't be able to turn it off in the settings. Maybe a quest where you end with Umbra's sentience and at the end you can choose to end it's sentience or not do it. I don't know why you think that you should be able to turn it off (I understand the reasons) but Lore is part of warframe. That's my opinion at the end of the day, so if DE actually makes us able to turn it off I won't be bothered because it's their choice.@@noel5682
Sure footed aint a necessity, its a dependancy. Juat be better at seeing knockdown effects and jumping out of the way.
1 2 3 3 did i count right??
Mirage mains eating well this update 🎉
I put eclipse on like one warframe for DR just to see, and haven't used it again 😂
damn 30s after an upload and only 6 views? knightmare fell off
This a trend now or what ?
DE destroying its own game, we made many others frames based on eclipse but all is destroyed. Because they analyze data of all players which is a wrong way. And people who think its not a balance game lets debuff stuff, why than Players should struggle to farm stuff if they keep doing this debuff eventually we will switch to other games, maybe Soul Frame and its what they really want from us ;)
Wtf just started crafting mirage and i see this video on my notis LMAO
The warframe gods call upon you
Does inverted also work for console
Yes
I put 5 tau forged hp azure archon shards on my mirage and she can get up to 3243hp thanks to arcane blessing true tank factor
I’m a mirage main. I subsume pillage over her 2 and run 360ish strength and corrosive projection
is 360 str what she needs to fully strip 1 cast with pillage?
I would use the DR variant of helminth eclipse...
If it reached 90%...(disapointed tank noises)
The amount of hate for the DR on Eclipse is quite silly :c
Ngl i used that damage reduction on volt weapon platform build. My glass canon pookie.
What is the song name at 8:48?
Diriga Prime with Xaku Prime manifesting it😭😭
What about stacking Roar and eclipse together though >_>, Cos I legit thought thats what you would go for when you were talking about how roar stacks with the lasers lol.
You cant put Roar on Mirage without getting rid of eclispe
@@Grimllord I know, like I said in my comment, I figured he would do that, instead of wave of terror, given how he was talking about how roar synergises well with her abilities.. But I guess armour strip will always be better than big numbers.
@@Synkhan then why the fuck did u comment this
@@noahedenborg4221 Cos I am hoping its something he may see and do in future. How the fuck is that so hard to grasp. Yall just want to start things over nothing cos you cant take a few seconds to contextualize a statement. smh. Anyway, muting your ass so regardless of what you say, wont see shit till kingdom come. Peace.
Yeah the fact they gutted eclipse helminth is by far the dumbest thing de have ever done and they've done exactly the same with other ability strength ability strength helminths
did i miss the shards used?
yes, yes i did
How i can get that secondary ? From where
do whispers quest
@@noahedenborg4221 yeah but where is the favonius codex? whats the diff from the grimoire? why is there no info on the internet on this?
but the archage music had me distracted as hell
Chroma New Augment video please.
New Incarnon weapons review?
is the favonius codex just the grimoire
yeah
Wait so it’s still multiplicative? Confused
yes its still multiplicative
Mirage can face tank Sp now and
I dont see why i would use rev anymore
Because most TH-camrs only care about big funny numbers instead of the dr more casual players would use (I never went over level 3k nor do I care about going that high)
Bro are you putting destiny 2 weapon names over some of your weapons? 😂 I saw mida mini tool last time and full on thought you could get it and saw the other half in this one now I’m wondering if those are actual weapons 😂
The damage reduction ain't bad when running through areas nor like im stopping to shoot anyhow but then it's flipping 😂