This is sad some of us watched the Oscar Pistorius case. When Ad. Gerrie Nel, and Barry Roux were shouting and going at each other or witnesses they didn't have to keep apologising for raising their voices. Ad. TT has to keep explaining himself, this case definitely needs a White Judge now.
Well said sir. you remembered that moment when Gerie shouting you killed her,there was no apologies after another ,this judge don't deserve to handle this matter.
When Tumelo mentions that Zandi, Kelly and MaKhumalo were fighting with the culprit while he was standing with Senzo, he is revealing that the three ladies were defending them to the person that this ladies knew/know of which may be Chicco. And also he has said three statements, 1. He ran to the bedroom, 2. He went to Senzo and punch the culprit, 3. He was standing with Senzo. I won't mention the biase of Justice Maomela 😑😑
Two people were upset by Senzo here, Kelly and Longwe. Kelly for him sleeping with her sister, and Longwe for him sleeping with his girlfriend. So that might be the reason we heard from rumours that even now Kelly and Zandi don't get along that much. So by analysing all these, Senzo was set for execution and elimination by either Kelly or Longwe.
What about Senzo Wife?no1-, that woman was certain that there is no way that she would come as first suspect, no 2- if she was also in one of senzos friend party and Senzo was sitting outside the yard with friends how come she didn't see that,?
Lying is the medicine of the mouth, but the conscience is true to the facts. Whoever tries to lie, knows the real truth. The real truth may come out, if the hidden power of money does not spoil the party!
How does the State justifying existence of two dockets, different suspects and two different theories, for one crime. State trying by all means to defend the real culprits
Neh! You know you hit something when you said humble because thats exactly how i remmber him. Ive jus started watching this case again and im like wait a minute maaan i know this guy. I remmber him from UJ when he studied law.
The state just don't want Afriforum to take this case to private prosecution because a lot will be going to jail including higher ranking politicians by the look of things. It will be forced to get anyone arrested to avoid private prosecution which will end up getting even state people arrested. My wish is for it to reach private prosecution stage.
Binda! Remember, it's not a crime to drink alcohol or be drunk in your own house. So this scene did not require testing of alcohol. However there are instances where testing would be required. For instance, if one of the people in the house was in possession of a firearm (Firearm Control Act prohibits the carrying or use of a firearm while under influence of drugs or alcohol).
The police didn't pursue this case because they were already under the impression that this case will be thrown by the commissioner Remember the one Chicco Thwala paid 2 million
This judge is very quick to reprimand the defence council but can't reprimand the witness for disrespect. Mxm Adv Teffo was right this judge must recuse himself
Exactly this Madlala phara is very disrespectful, he was suppose to be humble to help the case get justice for his friend, but no he is so arrogant and the old Judge dont see anything wrong
This case is really not going anywhere, Everytime it gains momentum there seems to be distractions and hurdles that stumble upon it. I mean it's so evident that Tumelo's making up stories regarding his friend's death. He knows what happened on that faithful night, and it is evident that he's been paid to shut up, I mean this boy is contradicting himself and uses arrogance to justify his actions. One other thing thing that I have noticed is that he hardly mentions LONGWE TWALA... now that's a red flag there. His statements and evidence of events are two different stories. Why should we trust and believe in the Overseas law enforcements than our own? Sies I am so disgusted by how this whole thing is handled.... Lastly even the Judge seems not to have a strong hold on this matter, KANTI WHAT MUST HAPPEN FOR SENZO AND HIS FAMILY TO HAVE THE JUSTICE THEY DESERVE????!
This does not need an expect judge to see that Tumelo is lying. Kelly ran to bed room and at the same time Kelly was with her mother asulting intruders. Yooh this guy.
Teffo is an immature 12 year old man. He is a dangerous and reckless man who needs to take a chill pill and mature mentally before he represents suspects in court
He just didn't have strategy to conduct himself. But he had facts. Other than that, he took people's money. Now he is striken off the roll of advocates.
Its pathetic that some people are dancing with one leg coz Teffo lost wicked world we live in woooooow.You are next put yourself in his shoes!375 docket made him to have enemies all over sataforika am dumbfounded what a friday corrupt country 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 🇩🇪🇧🇼😡👎🏿
That's not true Mrs Bucksch,docket number 375 is Nothing to do with Teffo's problems as I'm reapply hear Teffo is debarred from practicing,He frauds clients and 1400 complaints against him.That is not Senzo Mayiwa's case brought problems to him.
@@lancembatha hehe its the MAIN one coz he uprooted lots Sir/Madam and deep down i know you know it,last he was caught inside court who does that?They tried their all to distract him from this case so they searched for ALL to take ban him and they succeeded and NONE of you sataforikans did a thing last coz lots said its none of their businesses he put himself in that!
@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 I understand you,but with my knowledge if you don't respect the court of law you might and I jail that's what Mr Teffo did.
2guys walk in the house with 7 ppl and ask for cellphones without pulling out a weapon,1person runs away but not for help...6ppl left in the house 3fighting 1 guy and 2 fighting the other so we have 1 which was Mthoko guess he was the referee of this royal rumble but still the 1 guy manages to pull out a gun fires 1 shot then they runawy without taking anything?? Yey wena Mthoko yey wena
how do you live females fighting the accused in the other room and try to escape whereas the accused was already overpowered, they could even have tie him with something. Tumelo had to assist Senzo who was pinning the other accused in the wall but failed to assist the other female in the living room. Hai this case, all the best TT and Mshololo its not hard to crack this one - igazi lomuntu liyakhuluma, its high time elikaSenzo lenze the same
Tumelo made a confirmation that his crushes were taken away from him and had signed, but Mosia said he never took crushes and no DNA test was conducted on crushes. Did Tumelo, NETFLIX AND KELLY had a CONSENT to use and share Senzo 's photos, if no. Is that not a CONTRAVENTION OF POPIA?
Don't be a dummy, Kelly Khumalo was and still is the mother of Senzo's daughter, her alone was enough to consent with Netflix just get Netflix out of your conspiracy theory.
If Senzo was too heavy it means he was already on the rigor mortis stage ,his body started to stiffen up ,this happens after a person has died for a while....could it be that he was not sent to hospital immediately after he was shot??? We need the Docter to confirm this in court he will solve this case cos this witnesses have different views ,wasting our time,we want to know his time of death...#justiceforSenzoMeyiwa
You are right Precious, the way he explained it, Senzo was gone already. Even when they arrived at hospital, the was no problem with the wheelchair because the position of wheelchair is the same as that of sitting in a car. The stretcher would make him lie as if he's just unconscious.
Rigor mortis does not make people heavier. Where’s the extra weight from? Senzo was an athlete who participated in heavy physical training. Athletes tend to weigh more than their counterparts of similar height and width
When Tumelo punched the suspect, obviously he never had a gun. The short suspect had a gun and was assaulted by Kelly, Zandi and Makhumalo, meaning that no one shot Senzo between the two suspects. Lies lies lies
I was thinking the same since yesterday and what happened after he punched him because the guy who had a gun was the short one who entered the house first....and how did Senzo leave the first guy in the sitting room and jump to the second guy in the kitchen
I am not convinced with this guy testimony, a person who can't even notice there was lights in house, general knowledge, it was dark, for tht reason he managed to identify intruders features, able to see Kelly fighting with another intruder, tht alone doesn't give you picture, there was light
Yazi it is very sad to see what is happening in this case, in our country there's no fear justice. State you can see is protecting something and the judge doesn't seems to the conclusion of this case. And now my question is how many cases has been concluded while case does not have weight to be concluded.
Kanti bangaki labo abesejele ngale ndaba? UMadlala had better remember his testimony otherwise he will regret it. I hope he has told the whole truth. Baloyi is a sly fox he's very skilled at raising the dust to blind everyone if one is not paying attention to detail.
I think something is wrong and I wonder why people who have kids will just sell their soul for nothing! Men and women, say the truth and be free! Period! And nobody will call you to come and Testify because truth has power that backs it up.
I wonder what was the reason for postponement if witnesses are there available for the court 🤔.......some witnesses might die during the process and evidence will be lost...
Tumelo not sure whether second suspect had a gun with him, but he punched his stomach. Why didn't he see the gun, stomach and hands are next to each other
this senzo freind is talking different things , he said longwe run away and never come back , now again he is also the one who is saying longwe opened door for him , mhhhh something is wrong
Tumelo must tell us how much alcohol was bought so we can compare to the number of cans found by the police. If the numbers don’t match then someone cleaned the house and got rid of the empty cans
It's not disputed though that the house was cleaned, There's a witness who reported that on her statement, but some witnesses are not aware that it was cleaned, including Tumelo, it was done without their knowledge hence they don't know
I hv been following thi case for a very long time now bt I don't see any one who is defending Senzo Meyiwa here all I see three advocates defending state and the accused people up until now...
If I may ask who should defend the deceased? Before the court there are 5 accused person who are about to go to jail for a crime they did not commit,they must be defended
@@vuyoscargo1671 as far as I know I don't think the doctor must plaster your leg and give you two crutches and you can able to run and fight hold heavy weight man just like that very strange to me
I love "Mr.I Put to you,he is my favourite and he is very calm but he is pressing hard to this Tumelo,keep on pressing hard until this liar coughs the truth👍👍😂😂😂😂
Oscar Pistorius case did not have this much postponements - it ran right through...what is the delay in finalizing this case...clearly these lawyers are lazy - how many years is this case going to go on....even the time spent on one witness is ridiculous!! Its a shame to Senzo's justice!
😂😂😂mara honestly not everyone remembers their old numbers, i remember lot of things but dont remember number i used in 2014, as for the blood questions, my friend is dying why would i be worried where blood spills are kodwa if that is really true, some questions are just strange
He was asked to write down the number he used to call Sfiso Meyiwa, he said he can't remember his number he used in 2014, he could have said he was not using his number. So he contradicted himself strongly.
TT needs to be more fearless and candid in his style of questioning. Baloyi has the English, Yooh! He is eloquent, confident and determined to legally mesmerise Tt.
The source said Mr tumelo madlala is planing to buy an expensive house he was paid a lot of money with senzo photos and talks about senzo , we won't forgets this tumelo thing a we wash our hands !!!!
Tumelo you don't know Kelly ne so why you didn't leaves the following day ???? Now I see tumelo was waiting for a private cash to Kelly and chicco!!!! Tumelo was playing senzo , its so painful if a cheap person like tumelo play you serious !!!!
The only wrong thing TTT said was that Case636 was closed. But, the overall context in which he used the word "revival" was correct. However, the other people do not want to hear anything about Case375. Where is the right of conscience and freedom of speech. Yooh....Iyamangalisa lento!!
This is sad some of us watched the Oscar Pistorius case. When Ad. Gerrie Nel, and Barry Roux were shouting and going at each other or witnesses they didn't have to keep apologising for raising their voices. Ad. TT has to keep explaining himself, this case definitely needs a White Judge now.
Agreed we need a no nonsense judge a white one for that matter
You can get your point across without shouting at ppl. What are they kids who cannot control themselves. Useless.
Well said sir. you remembered that moment when Gerie shouting you killed her,there was no apologies after another ,this judge don't deserve to handle this matter.
@@beewest5704 true, it's unbelievable that even in 2022 people would think that skin colour determines competency
I was thinking about that the other day african cases need a white judge and white cases need a African judge
PEOPLE OF SA, WE NEED A JUDGE WHO WAS HOLDING OSCAR PRESTORIUS CASE
WE ARE NOT GOING ANY WHERE HERE...
Judge Masipa 😂😂😂😂😂
When Tumelo mentions that Zandi, Kelly and MaKhumalo were fighting with the culprit while he was standing with Senzo, he is revealing that the three ladies were defending them to the person that this ladies knew/know of which may be Chicco. And also he has said three statements, 1. He ran to the bedroom, 2. He went to Senzo and punch the culprit, 3. He was standing with Senzo. I won't mention the biase of Justice Maomela 😑😑
That is reaching
I think the person who was being assaulted by three ladies was Longwe that why he not been mentioned in this chaos.
The court is too quite - it is clear the witness received prior coaching to either respond as "I don't know" / I can't remember "
Two people were upset by Senzo here, Kelly and Longwe. Kelly for him sleeping with her sister, and Longwe for him sleeping with his girlfriend. So that might be the reason we heard from rumours that even now Kelly and Zandi don't get along that much. So by analysing all these, Senzo was set for execution and elimination by either Kelly or Longwe.
And the wife!
@@michaelralitsela5695 true, she might have been tired with him
Very correct my brother
What about Senzo Wife?no1-, that woman was certain that there is no way that she would come as first suspect, no 2- if she was also in one of senzos friend party and Senzo was sitting outside the yard with friends how come she didn't see that,?
He said he can't see if a person is dead or alive, but on the Netflix program he said Senzo died in his hands😢🤔
Jhoooo... Literally he forgot what he once said
Madlala has been rehearsing his statement and he contradicts himself along the way.
So wish to see the Netflix vedio, can you guys help me on how to find it
Spoon feeded and pour are two separate matters
Ngiyabonga yazi nami ngamuzwa esho njalo
I am praying, for the truth to come out.
This guy said he doesn't know who shot Weyiwa but he saw the gun
Until Jesus comes
Unfortunately that won’t happen
Lying is the medicine of the mouth, but the conscience is true to the facts. Whoever tries to lie, knows the real truth. The real truth may come out, if the hidden power of money does not spoil the party!
The truth is five minutes away
How does the State justifying existence of two dockets, different suspects and two different theories, for one crime. State trying by all means to defend the real culprits
I don't understand too
TT Thobane is growing on me- so humble, so thorough, so procedural.
ngathi he is the original 'babes we Robes' 🥰
Neh! You know you hit something when you said humble because thats exactly how i remmber him. Ive jus started watching this case again and im like wait a minute maaan i know this guy. I remmber him from UJ when he studied law.
The state just don't want Afriforum to take this case to private prosecution because a lot will be going to jail including higher ranking politicians by the look of things. It will be forced to get anyone arrested to avoid private prosecution which will end up getting even state people arrested. My wish is for it to reach private prosecution stage.
II seconded you my brother. state is useless.
On point
So the police forgot to take alcohol and drugs test to all those who were in the house? Surprisingly
My point exactly
Binda! Remember, it's not a crime to drink alcohol or be drunk in your own house. So this scene did not require testing of alcohol. However there are instances where testing would be required. For instance, if one of the people in the house was in possession of a firearm (Firearm Control Act prohibits the carrying or use of a firearm while under influence of drugs or alcohol).
The police didn't pursue this case because they were already under the impression that this case will be thrown by the commissioner
Remember the one Chicco Thwala paid 2 million
@@nicholussibusisovilakazi951 yes it not a crime but they should've tested them to see the level of alcohol before taking their statements.
@@lungelolungisanimaphumulo9571 There is no law saying they could be tested. The police had no grounds.
This judge is very quick to reprimand the defence council but can't reprimand the witness for disrespect. Mxm Adv Teffo was right this judge must recuse himself
He make Teffo to lost his career there is no more Advo Teffo he is just Teffo njeeee
Exactly this Madlala phara is very disrespectful, he was suppose to be humble to help the case get justice for his friend, but no he is so arrogant and the old Judge dont see anything wrong
Hence Adv. Teffo is history. I wish he could successfully appeal the judgement against him.
I wish I could afford American investigators and lawyers for this case.. I would have paid them Just for Senzo to get justice..
This case is really not going anywhere, Everytime it gains momentum there seems to be distractions and hurdles that stumble upon it. I mean it's so evident that Tumelo's making up stories regarding his friend's death. He knows what happened on that faithful night, and it is evident that he's been paid to shut up, I mean this boy is contradicting himself and uses arrogance to justify his actions. One other thing thing that I have noticed is that he hardly mentions LONGWE TWALA... now that's a red flag there. His statements and evidence of events are two different stories. Why should we trust and believe in the Overseas law enforcements than our own? Sies I am so disgusted by how this whole thing is handled.... Lastly even the Judge seems not to have a strong hold on this matter, KANTI WHAT MUST HAPPEN FOR SENZO AND HIS FAMILY TO HAVE THE JUSTICE THEY DESERVE????!
Don't worry now it's when the truth is already out through mustermind Tumi he is busy putting everyone that Was in the house in jail
This does not need an expect judge to see that Tumelo is lying. Kelly ran to bed room and at the same time Kelly was with her mother asulting intruders. Yooh this guy.
It's strange women assaulting a gunman, even nami engingayenzanga i law i can tell tumelo is covering up
Hearbroken by adv Teffo verdict 💔💔💔💔
Really sad ...
What happened?
Teffo is an immature 12 year old man. He is a dangerous and reckless man who needs to take a chill pill and mature mentally before he represents suspects in court
He just didn't have strategy to conduct himself. But he had facts. Other than that, he took people's money. Now he is striken off the roll of advocates.
Its pathetic that some people are dancing with one leg coz Teffo lost wicked world we live in woooooow.You are next put yourself in his shoes!375 docket made him to have enemies all over sataforika am dumbfounded what a friday corrupt country
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That's not true Mrs Bucksch,docket number 375 is Nothing to do with Teffo's problems as I'm reapply hear Teffo is debarred from practicing,He frauds clients and 1400 complaints against him.That is not Senzo Mayiwa's case brought problems to him.
@@lancembatha hehe its the MAIN one coz he uprooted lots Sir/Madam and deep down i know you know it,last he was caught inside court who does that?They tried their all to distract him from this case so they searched for ALL to take ban him and they succeeded and NONE of you sataforikans did a thing last coz lots said its none of their businesses he put himself in that!
@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 I understand you,but with my knowledge if you don't respect the court of law you might and I jail that's what Mr Teffo did.
@@lancembatha hehehe aint trying to be rude but is there law at sataforika??
clearly this is politics
2guys walk in the house with 7 ppl and ask for cellphones without pulling out a weapon,1person runs away but not for help...6ppl left in the house 3fighting 1 guy and 2 fighting the other so we have 1 which was Mthoko guess he was the referee of this royal rumble but still the 1 guy manages to pull out a gun fires 1 shot then they runawy without taking anything?? Yey wena Mthoko yey wena
Guys pls pls come and support Teffo on SABC LIVE to despite all this nonsense teffo was right
Teffo is a grifter.
how do you live females fighting the accused in the other room and try to escape whereas the accused was already overpowered, they could even have tie him with something. Tumelo had to assist Senzo who was pinning the other accused in the wall but failed to assist the other female in the living room. Hai this case, all the best TT and Mshololo its not hard to crack this one -
igazi lomuntu liyakhuluma, its high time elikaSenzo lenze the same
And where was Mathoko at this time?
No wonder Teffo was frustrated in this court despite his shenanigans…I see TT being pushed to the edge by this judge..
Yes
The judge is evil.
@@florenceshamase8104 I can't handle the judge yo
Guys am not a south africa but I have lived here a long time. So my take is this! Those guys in the duck are not the real killers.
I PUT it to you that!
To be on the safe side, they may not be!!
So DNAs on the hat can't be done in SA? This story has more questions than answers
Tumelo's liars keep getting worse... 🤦♂️, How do we trust his integrity I pointing Accused 2 🤷♂️.
As for Baloyii... indeed ke Moloyii!!!
The judge got the bag on this one, nasi 🤞🏾
Millions
Yes
True
It's clear now in SA just fight fire with fire. You will never get justice once you involved the law just saying
Tumelo made a confirmation that his crushes were taken away from him and had signed, but Mosia said he never took crushes and no DNA test was conducted on crushes. Did Tumelo, NETFLIX AND KELLY had a CONSENT to use and share Senzo 's photos, if no. Is that not a CONTRAVENTION OF POPIA?
Don't be a dummy, Kelly Khumalo was and still is the mother of Senzo's daughter, her alone was enough to consent with Netflix just get Netflix out of your conspiracy theory.
Uyaphi lapho we Tholy🤔
If Senzo was too heavy it means he was already on the rigor mortis stage ,his body started to stiffen up ,this happens after a person has died for a while....could it be that he was not sent to hospital immediately after he was shot???
We need the Docter to confirm this in court he will solve this case cos this witnesses have different views ,wasting our time,we want to know his time of death...#justiceforSenzoMeyiwa
You are right Precious, the way he explained it, Senzo was gone already. Even when they arrived at hospital, the was no problem with the wheelchair because the position of wheelchair is the same as that of sitting in a car. The stretcher would make him lie as if he's just unconscious.
Not really, Have you ever tried to lift someone up who is unconscious or has fainted. They are stiff & heavy.
Rigor mortis does not make people heavier. Where’s the extra weight from? Senzo was an athlete who participated in heavy physical training. Athletes tend to weigh more than their counterparts of similar height and width
@Mbali the doctor will come to confirm the time and the place of death we left with 25 or more witnesses.
@@lancembatha ya let's wait and see,all we want is Justice
tea time is always on point in this case
Verdict for the current trial would be unjust, as people who were in the house are not part of the current suspects
A drunk person can't see at 9PM if there's no light. If i was tumelo I was going to disappear and follow pastor bushiri
Haha you are very funny hun and you are right coz Tumelo is going to sink big time😂😂😂
You want justice in South Africa, do everything which the police to fail to do.
YOU are the law in SA
When Tumelo punched the suspect, obviously he never had a gun. The short suspect had a gun and was assaulted by Kelly, Zandi and Makhumalo, meaning that no one shot Senzo between the two suspects. Lies lies lies
My sentiments exactly
I was thinking the same since yesterday and what happened after he punched him because the guy who had a gun was the short one who entered the house first....and how did Senzo leave the first guy in the sitting room and jump to the second guy in the kitchen
Lets hope Mshololo will prove him wrong cause this one doesn't have a skill
How you can assault someone with gun in his hand and same person managed to shoot far person that the asaulters
I am not convinced with this guy testimony, a person who can't even notice there was lights in house, general knowledge, it was dark, for tht reason he managed to identify intruders features, able to see Kelly fighting with another intruder, tht alone doesn't give you picture, there was light
😂😂😃😃lights liar Tumelo.
I would like to be a lawyer in this case for senzo family coz seems like we not goner get any where with this ppl
True
Please do
Yazi it is very sad to see what is happening in this case, in our country there's no fear justice. State you can see is protecting something and the judge doesn't seems to the conclusion of this case. And now my question is how many cases has been concluded while case does not have weight to be concluded.
Kanti bangaki labo abesejele ngale ndaba? UMadlala had better remember his testimony otherwise he will regret it. I hope he has told the whole truth. Baloyi is a sly fox he's very skilled at raising the dust to blind everyone if one is not paying attention to detail.
Its very clear to see that Baloyi is under the pay Roll
Its sad that some of us are already looking for "real culprits" but we were never even in the house....
I now see why tefo was boiling in court. Witness fails to answer questions and no orders to him . He is even disrespectful
Two guys entered the house where were the other3?since it's 5 men on custody?
This judge is managing the defense lawyers. he is not concerned about the trial. Nonsense judge.
Unescefe uBaloyi nobubi😡😡
Yaaah yana mubi ngathuvuvukele yilenhlobo yeskin skamalema
Nomlomo omkhulu lenja protecting the real murderers 😡😡
Tumelo is not the best buddy for Senzo I must say. Uyadlala uMadlala and his loyalty is scattered .
I think something is wrong and I wonder why people who have kids will just sell their soul for nothing! Men and women, say the truth and be free! Period! And nobody will call you to come and Testify because truth has power that backs it up.
I wonder what was the reason for postponement if witnesses are there available for the court 🤔.......some witnesses might die during the process and evidence will be lost...
Hey!!
AG this judge must go to pension .
How can they give him crutches for broken toe?
Tumelo not sure whether second suspect had a gun with him, but he punched his stomach. Why didn't he see the gun, stomach and hands are next to each other
If you also look at advocate Baloyi, you see a very disappointed prosecuter, his witnesses are not reliable at all.
So now he punched his stomach no longer the right side of the face. Jesus! 😳
Here the judge is completely against TT
this case will drag till the end of times
this senzo freind is talking different things , he said longwe run away and never come back , now again he is also the one who is saying longwe opened door for him , mhhhh something is wrong
The door was opened by Mthoko Thwala, it seems as if there were two Thwalas there. Longwe and Mthoko.
this Tumelo guy run to the bedroom to hide .And left Senzo with a culprit but now he suddenly punched the culprit. 😭😭
Hahahaha
Because he's a sellout
@@tonyuzo1620 yes yes yes
Interpreter Bafwethu Haikhona..🥺🥺🥺
Tumelo must tell us how much alcohol was bought so we can compare to the number of cans found by the police. If the numbers don’t match then someone cleaned the house and got rid of the empty cans
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It's not disputed though that the house was cleaned, There's a witness who reported that on her statement, but some witnesses are not aware that it was cleaned, including Tumelo, it was done without their knowledge hence they don't know
@@andisilenkayi4472 was not aware. Thanx for the info sis 😊
Who is that woman taking pictures of the accused persons? Looks like she is concentrating on accused no 2. Did the judge not say no pictures in court?
Azovela amaqiniso ukt if saqhuma isibhamu esasiphethwe intruder 1 kwakuzomele sidubule uZandy noMaKhumalo ababelwa naye eDinning room sadubula uSenzo ekitchen samphosa eDinning room🤭n wangat ubecasha.Wopha bamvala ngethawula liphi?Ngazi ukt umuntu ophuzile uyopha kodwa kunamaspots egazi n akanakani negazi.kufa umnganakhe.Akukho okungeyukuvea.Uyeza uMshololo
Guys, bathong ths guys, can people assault a person with a gun 😳😳😳
Dramatic there wer acting
No, unless if they know that person
May be Senzo might have already disarmed him by that time? But, ordinarily, you run away from a gunman, isn't it?
Ubaloyi,,ijaji,,,utumelo,,umndeni,,wakakhumalo,,ngithi,,bantabami,,abayekwe,,ukhona,,umdala,,wezonsuku,,abadlale,,ngomndeni, wakameyiwa,,ngendlela,,abayithandayouthixo,,kodwa,onempindiselo
Waze wangfundisa ka'hlungu, Gatsheni
@@thobanichiliza934 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kodwa uBaloyi use msebenzini
will we be seeing the bail application of accused 2
Wow unbelievable... they are postponing again for two months... south african law at its best
So that they can kill some witnesses and intimidate some
What is the reason for postponing
High profile case turned into circus.........
I hv been following thi case for a very long time now bt I don't see any one who is defending Senzo Meyiwa here all I see three advocates defending state and the accused people up until now...
If I may ask who should defend the deceased? Before the court there are 5 accused person who are about to go to jail for a crime they did not commit,they must be defended
Senzo can't be defended anymore, but the truth must come out as who killed him and the person must be punished accordingly.
Kelly and the best friends are supposed to defend Senzo...not the state and definitely not the defence!!
Incompetency in this court from the judge to all of them!
Thobane questions they are very confusing sometimes his bad
This guy was running all over with one leg cz he had an injury on the other leg.. but seems to be the busy one
Not only running and fighting and trying to jump out the window plus he was so lucky doctor gave him two crutches for a finger 🤣🤣
it's the 'on one leg' for me 🤣🤣🤣
@@vuyoscargo1671 as far as I know I don't think the doctor must plaster your leg and give you two crutches and you can able to run and fight hold heavy weight man just like that very strange to me
I feel like people will come up with any theories as long as it fits that Longwe left the house, mara sobona.
What is this tea and Judges?? The Judge has been lifting a big Mug since this morning. I doubt if its a real tea😀😀😀😀😀
😂😂😂😂😂I don't think it is
He once commented on the mug and the assumption that it might be perceived as something else and he insisted its honestly water
He said "it's HO2 " 😂😂🤣
Mmm kwaze kwanzima kungani amaphoyisa acindezele umuntu ongenacala avunyiswe ngenkani ukuty uyena owabulala kodwa ebe ekhona umuntu okuthiwa uyena owayephethe isibhamu,lomfana oboshiee kwanawu 5 amaphoyisa kuyacaca ukuthi afumbathiswa mnxmn akadedelwe lowomfana,iyanyanyisa indaba yomthetho wakuleli🙄🙄🙄
The judge is so protective I wonder 🤔
I further put it to you that.
I put if to you that the judge was paid to handle the case and I gave a witness who come testify 😂😂😂
Can somebody plz assist TT 😢 to carry out the proceedings/ interrogation in his language.
You're right my dear please someone should come up please who can!
@@tonyuzo1620 it no doubt that he is crippled by the language barrier otherwise he knows what he is doing.
He doing a better job when he is stable. But, I suspect he feels threatened inside and outside and hence sometimes loses his rythym.
This people really have no mercy at all tell the truth please
I love "Mr.I Put to you,he is my favourite and he is very calm but he is pressing hard to this Tumelo,keep on pressing hard until this liar coughs the truth👍👍😂😂😂😂
Tt did a great job here
I don't know man but I'm not happy with thobane he doesn't have a backbone
Someone's time wasted never regained yimi dlalo lena phela
Kahle kahle to be a lawyer one needs to be fluent in English.
The blood was in the dining room? I thought senzo was shot in the bedroom while trying to protect Kelly
This is a new evidence. The senzo was protecting kelly where did u wer on that time? Why u don't come front end give testimony to court?
@@bongekabongy4u.210 who must give testimony to court?
Senzo never went to the bedroom, he was shot whilst in the kitchen
Guys come and support Teffo in SABC live
We're with him
Are they in a lunch ?
He will pounce back stronger
This case will be postponed until Jesus comes🤔🙌
KWenzakalani kanti la kule case
Oscar Pistorius case did not have this much postponements - it ran right through...what is the delay in finalizing this case...clearly these lawyers are lazy - how many years is this case going to go on....even the time spent on one witness is ridiculous!! Its a shame to Senzo's justice!
This cas will be trial until 2027🤞🤞🤞🤞its so long strachy
😂😂😂mara honestly not everyone remembers their old numbers, i remember lot of things but dont remember number i used in 2014, as for the blood questions, my friend is dying why would i be worried where blood spills are kodwa if that is really true, some questions are just strange
kumele asho yonke into ayibona hayi ukungathekisa. court works in the way.
But that was not the question asked from him. He voluntarily gave that information
@@nonhlanhlacele8516 he was asked about it watch ill send u the time to watch it being asked
He was asked to write down the number he used to call Sfiso Meyiwa, he said he can't remember his number he used in 2014, he could have said he was not using his number. So he contradicted himself strongly.
Ai Mr Thobane doesn't give me merits and the accused no longer want Tefo
Merits in which way?
What he asks he also seems not to be certain and he is corrected in many occasions
TT needs to be more fearless and candid in his style of questioning. Baloyi has the English, Yooh! He is eloquent, confident and determined to legally mesmerise Tt.
Ngifuna umshololo anyakazise umadlala cause lobufakazi bakhe bungamanga nje
Ey me too waiting for Mshololo coz akanaskhathi sokdlala la
The judge is biased
Judge Maumela is really exposing the defense lawyer's incompetence 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Revival 😂😂😂😂😂, but at least he's better than Dali Gupta mpofu
The witness is trying to be evasive. He will not be able to disentangle himself from the snares he is creating for himself.
The source said Mr tumelo madlala is planing to buy an expensive house he was paid a lot of money with senzo photos and talks about senzo , we won't forgets this tumelo thing a we wash our hands !!!!
This case needs Senzo’s ancestors to come through… this justice thing wont work
They are around. Just wait, they are acting gradually, you will see! BoMkhulu no BoGogo, haba dlali bayaShaya. Nkulukulu Akona.
Tumelo unamanga amabi en uphendula ngokweyisa akalenz iqiniso nomngan wakhe
Tumelo you don't know Kelly ne so why you didn't leaves the following day ???? Now I see tumelo was waiting for a private cash to Kelly and chicco!!!! Tumelo was playing senzo , its so painful if a cheap person like tumelo play you serious !!!!
He claims ubezohlalaph but uyamazi nje uMthoko, Senzos other friend akahambanga ngan naye
No wonder cases are taking too longin courts they will argue about one word for the whole hour
The only wrong thing TTT said was that Case636 was closed. But, the overall context in which he used the word "revival" was correct. However, the other people do not want to hear anything about Case375. Where is the right of conscience and freedom of speech. Yooh....Iyamangalisa lento!!
TT ayikho lento yakhe,akalinike omunye umuntu lelicala
He is going to add more lies
Request photos of this guy from the bus he travelled in on the day. We might see him wearing that hat
why is the case postponed?
Adv Mshololo is not feeling well
For such a long time, am shocked
@@khotsokomako2418 maybe the judge has got other cases to attend too.
The legal system of this country is mediocre, this judge 😂😂😂, he’s not fair, already biased as it stands, from Teffo to TT,
Sorry Tefo
But, please bounce back. It is too early to give up completely. You fall and stand up again. Re tla urapela ka Modimo au thuse, Morena Teffo.
Kudlalwa ama piano phela la