IBC totes are not made to hold pressure. The bottom tote in this setup is subjected to the pressure of the water in the top tote, which is what causes the swelling he is referring to in the video. I would recommend stacking them side by side and placing the overflow outlet as close to the top of the tote as possible to avoid pressurizing them. It will save you a ton of frustration in the long run. I have built several water collection systems with IBC totes. I started with this design but eventually abandoned it because of multiple failures.
The tote frame is extremely strong and can withstand the extra weight and pressure. As for the water pressure on the bottom tote, it is doubled (pressure = density x gravity x height), I agree it is bigger. However, the system has been working well for the last four years without any problems. If you have room around the house, I recommend setting the totes next to each other.
Thank you so much!! I have 10 totes and watched tons of videos and non spoke about venting. When I was using my system I was mortified how much my tanks caved in on themselves. this venting system will fix that thank you!!
Hello Jay, Thanks for posting up this video. A couple of tips for you. Up top where you have two different lines coming in to feed the system, you have the wrong "wye" connector. The one side has the direction flow, while the other has to fight its way in. You want to have a "double elbow" pvc connector, that the two sides are directional in flowing into the main pipe, down to your filtration, and then when full into your tanks. This will prevent back-up in the feeder system. Supporting the underside of the tanks is excellent, however, instead of using several 2x6 boards, you can utilize a 2x4 on edge and it will go right through. Make sure you cut the wood so that it rests on the steel cage and NOT on the plastic tank. The plastic tank will not support the 2x6's and you risk cracking the plastic at the end of the boards because they are not supported by the steel cage. Right now, I'm trying to decide whether to double stack or not. I see the advantages, and disadvantages. Mine will not be up against the house, but free standing. I'm still not sure whether to put them in line or two on two. It is a room factor. I've done much research and both seem plausible. I just don't know. Also, I recommend you get some landscape tubing and extend the overflow pipe so it drains away from the foundation of the house. It is never good to have quantities of water draining right at the foundation. It can eventually cause foundation issues, or draw termites up. Let the water drain at least 6' from the foundation, longer if you can help it, or if you can add tanks away from the house, use it as a feeder. Again, thanks for the video. I just wanted to share with you some thoughts I got along the way with my research. Thank you!
Jay, As a follow-up, the part you need at the top where two directional gutters join is called a 2 way Cleanout Tee. This will direct water smoothly coming from both directions down to a single line. I hoe this helps.
We learned much from your video. I would appreciate a part two explaining how you cleaned the water and then how you attached this system to your original one. Thank you.
I didn't realize you could stack two IBC water containers full of water, so thanks! But I couldn't hear what you were saying even with my sound on full blast so I can't say much else.
Sorry I was not speaking up sometime. I am glad you got some good ideas though. Please make sure to separate the two stacking totes by 2 by 4 (as in the video) to avoid extra swelling of the bottom tote.
He said “I should have never stacked these, it was the worst decision I ever made. Now they are too heavy to take apart”. But seriously I see he answered you
I actually don't think it is enough. You'd better go for 12" of gravel mixed with 3" or 4" size rocks. When our house was built, the builder told me that we have compact sand (I think it is limestone sand), which makes 6" for the base to be ok. If I would do it again I would dig more than 6".
I had mine built in 2016, still works well. Need to use the pipe cement well, especially the lower parts. If you have enough room to put them next to each other, that will be better.
@@jaynawa5905 My mind goes to the weight of water, the stress it causes & also freezes. Unheard of in central Texas, this year we had temps as low as zero for a week or longer, in cases like that room for expansion I imagine should be looked at. Anyways I'm just imaging having such freedom as water gifted from God.
@@victorwadsworth821 You are correct. In Wisconsin and similar cold zones, you will need to empty the tanks at the beginning of winter. Also, you will need to empty the 4" pipe at the left of the stacked reservoirs (see schematic diagram). Frozen water (ice) is almost 104% the size of water, this will damage the totes and the pipes. When stacking, make sure to separate the two totes by 2 by 4 as indicated in the video.
I know you recommend setting the side to side but don’t you get more pressure this way? I have several fruit trees and I use 1 tote to water 10 trees with an irrigation system but obviously the last 2 trees don’t get as much water because of the pressure and that’s the issue that I’m dealing with right now. If I stack them wouldn’t I get more pressure?
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IBC totes are not made to hold pressure. The bottom tote in this setup is subjected to the pressure of the water in the top tote, which is what causes the swelling he is referring to in the video. I would recommend stacking them side by side and placing the overflow outlet as close to the top of the tote as possible to avoid pressurizing them. It will save you a ton of frustration in the long run. I have built several water collection systems with IBC totes. I started with this design but eventually abandoned it because of multiple failures.
The tote frame is extremely strong and can withstand the extra weight and pressure. As for the water pressure on the bottom tote, it is doubled (pressure = density x gravity x height), I agree it is bigger. However, the system has been working well for the last four years without any problems. If you have room around the house, I recommend setting the totes next to each other.
Thank you so much!! I have 10 totes and watched tons of videos and non spoke about venting. When I was using my system I was mortified how much my tanks caved in on themselves. this venting system will fix that thank you!!
Thank you. I am glad it was helpful. Best of luck.
Hello Jay,
Thanks for posting up this video. A couple of tips for you.
Up top where you have two different lines coming in to feed the system, you have the wrong "wye" connector. The one side has the direction flow, while the other has to fight its way in. You want to have a "double elbow" pvc connector, that the two sides are directional in flowing into the main pipe, down to your filtration, and then when full into your tanks. This will prevent back-up in the feeder system.
Supporting the underside of the tanks is excellent, however, instead of using several 2x6 boards, you can utilize a 2x4 on edge and it will go right through. Make sure you cut the wood so that it rests on the steel cage and NOT on the plastic tank. The plastic tank will not support the 2x6's and you risk cracking the plastic at the end of the boards because they are not supported by the steel cage.
Right now, I'm trying to decide whether to double stack or not. I see the advantages, and disadvantages. Mine will not be up against the house, but free standing. I'm still not sure whether to put them in line or two on two. It is a room factor. I've done much research and both seem plausible. I just don't know.
Also, I recommend you get some landscape tubing and extend the overflow pipe so it drains away from the foundation of the house. It is never good to have quantities of water draining right at the foundation. It can eventually cause foundation issues, or draw termites up. Let the water drain at least 6' from the foundation, longer if you can help it, or if you can add tanks away from the house, use it as a feeder.
Again, thanks for the video. I just wanted to share with you some thoughts I got along the way with my research.
Thank you!
Do you get more pressure but stacking 2 of these together?
Jay,
As a follow-up, the part you need at the top where two directional gutters join is called a 2 way Cleanout Tee. This will direct water smoothly coming from both directions down to a single line. I hoe this helps.
Great job! Beautiful explanation!, Thanks for the diagram. Yes, you can get the banjo / 2" coupling adapter on Amazon.
We learned much from your video. I would appreciate a part two explaining how you cleaned the water and then how you attached this system to your original one. Thank you.
Sorry, I am not sure what you are asking. Can you please clarify?
Thanks!
Great Schematic Diagram. Thanks!
He likes to draw pictures of his 2 inch pipe.
Great idea..
Very useful system information to me, and great efforts, thx
I didn't realize you could stack two IBC water containers full of water, so thanks! But I couldn't hear what you were saying even with my sound on full blast so I can't say much else.
Sorry I was not speaking up sometime. I am glad you got some good ideas though. Please make sure to separate the two stacking totes by 2 by 4 (as in the video) to avoid extra swelling of the bottom tote.
@@jaynawa5905 Thank you! I appreciate the reply.
He said “I should have never stacked these, it was the worst decision I ever made. Now they are too heavy to take apart”. But seriously I see he answered you
Thanks for the video. Great work! I was wondering if 6" of gravel for the base is enough to hold that weight.
I actually don't think it is enough. You'd better go for 12" of gravel mixed with 3" or 4" size rocks. When our house was built, the builder told me that we have compact sand (I think it is limestone sand), which makes 6" for the base to be ok. If I would do it again I would dig more than 6".
Has anyone used a heavy duty beach ball (inflated inside the totes) to allow air in/out and bypass the need for pvc venting?
Is that a Banjo 200D? Banjo company makes a lot of parts. Thanks.
I believe it is. Sorry I can’t be sure since we just moved to another area. I bought it from Grainger.
@@jaynawa5905 thanks for responding. May not even matter, as it’s almost impossible to find an ibc tote right now.
@@Samlol23_drrich That's a bummer!
How does the stacking of these units work out?
I had mine built in 2016, still works well. Need to use the pipe cement well, especially the lower parts. If you have enough room to put them next to each other, that will be better.
@@jaynawa5905 My mind goes to the weight of water, the stress it causes & also freezes. Unheard of in central Texas, this year we had temps as low as zero for a week or longer, in cases like that room for expansion I imagine should be looked at. Anyways I'm just imaging having such freedom as water gifted from God.
@@victorwadsworth821 You are correct. In Wisconsin and similar cold zones, you will need to empty the tanks at the beginning of winter. Also, you will need to empty the 4" pipe at the left of the stacked reservoirs (see schematic diagram). Frozen water (ice) is almost 104% the size of water, this will damage the totes and the pipes.
When stacking, make sure to separate the two totes by 2 by 4 as indicated in the video.
Low volume
Hi! If you're going to use my picture of the stacked and networked totes, I would at least appreciate a plug. If not, please remove it. Thanks!
Can you please send me the link to which you refer to? Thanks.
Could you please send me the website URL?
I know you recommend setting the side to side but don’t you get more pressure this way? I have several fruit trees and I use 1 tote to water 10 trees with an irrigation system but obviously the last 2 trees don’t get as much water because of the pressure and that’s the issue that I’m dealing with right now. If I stack them wouldn’t I get more pressure?
You do get more pressure when stacked. Even when stacked, it is still better to use a small water pump.