@@gabiklw they have a video titled something like "what happened to our videos" where they explain how this guy that they were working with basically tried to strike every single video of theirs because nin/chloe (cant remember who it was at the time) wasn't romantically interested in him. He was an entitled asshole and after being rejected again, he decided he didnt want any of his ideas to be on the channel. Thankfully for Dissociadid, there wasnt much that he contributed to the channel, which is why they have been able to get their videos back up!
@@jaheriawilson19 yes lol but it was true that you made the assumption they won and if it was one day before I would have asked how you know they'd won.
I feel so bad for the persecutors. They get such a bad rap. To me it seems like persecutors are the part of you that maybe you would have become if they wouldn't have taken that trauma on for you. A lot of people develop unhealthy coping mechanisms and can turn mean or vindictive when we experience trauma. It seems like when the split happened, the persecutor took on all that trauma that would have surfaced in a bad way and locked it away in themselves. So when they come out people often vilify them, without remembering how awful it would have been if they wouldn't have separated and formed their own identity.
im just in disbelief that so much informative content was taken down, especially when I reeeeealy needed it, its good that there are some things to think about in this video to learn and use... also, like only till now I didn't know OSDD was a term that existed... something I should look into...
@@elidrawz8346 I think they are just saying that you shouldn't take OSDD advice from a DID system. I'm not sure how different they are so I will withhold judgement on that topic.
@@belalaloca i don't think they're too different? osdd type 1 is described in the icd-11 as "partial DID" & the dsm states "this category includes identity disturbance associated with less-than-marked discontinuities in sense of self and agency, or alterations of identity or episodes of possession in an individual who reports no dissociative amnesia" so for example as we're an osdd-1b system we're not that different from DID except from the fact that we don't/barely have dissociative amnesia but it still has the same other experiences i'm not too sure if types 2, 3 or 4 count as systems but if anyone w/ those disorders would like to enlighten us on those that'd be appreciated didn't mean to write a very long reply ^^" -mika
@@elidrawz8346 no worries on the long reply! You definitely would know better than me, so I’d assume that the other commenter personally dislikes DissociaDID or thinks they are faking. Unfortunately these both seem to be common opinions, for some reason. I hope they respond!
Thank you for this, people tend to enjoy justifying deflecting from responsibility due to the illness they have and think its ok to do so. its doesn't matter what you have, you need to learn how to take accountability. this is why mental health and therapy is important, this is also how mental illness is prevented. once again thank you.
I am just playing it in the background, because I watched those videos before, and I want my views to matter, even if only a little bit. Comment mainly for algorithm. But also sending much love and support to Your system! Take care of yourself :)
So glad these videos are coming back just as I got my diagnosis. From the looks of it there were so many videos! I’m sorry about what happened, and thank you so much for making content like this. It’s so helpful and relieving that someone out there is here to help me. I hope you’re doing well
Oh my gosh, this is the first time I've heard someone talk about power dynamics within a system, it makes total sense but I just didn't put it together, were seeing a specialist to figure out what's going on and the idea that an alter fulfilling the role of host or any other alters would have more power within a system than someone else really just felt like a lightbulb turning on. Thank you!
I am so happy you are back. I was confused and lost before, when I found you I was depressed because I didn't want to accept it, I didn't even know this existed and that I was just some outcast and it was shocking. Months passed now and only last month I've become more accepting of there being a system and we're actually working together now. So thank you
offered as a PS .. I appreciate this vid AND the intent behind it .. but I am also aware that there are many other factors .. in our case, "codependency" / narcissistic abuse vs. "empathy" are also such huge factors, and as much as I encourage my Dear One to have "system responsibility" (though we don't use that phrasing) .. at the same time, HIM protecting himself WISELY sometimes also means acknowledging that he can't ALWAYS do so, due to the OTHER person or persons are very possibly ab*sive. .. just some add'l thoughts as a PS .. :) THANK YOU for reposting, and I sincerely hope that all the social media controversies NEED NOT have repercussions on what you (y'all!) are doing NOW! :)
We knew a system who hurt us and even traumatized various alters in our system as a way to keep us quiet on personal matters and nobody took responsibility for the pain and suffering they caused not only us, but other people as well. It made us self-reflect and want to self-improve as individuals and as a system whole. System responsibility has been a huge part of this self-improvement process because we don't want to deal the type of damage that the other system caused us.
The way you describe internal communication and joint responsibility for how you present externally sounds very reminiscent of how fully integrated individuals might interact at work within a company. These employees are all individuals, who behave and think differently, and who certainly don't directly control each other's actions. However, they all represent the company, and all share responsibility for each other's actions within that company. If one employee makes a mistake that reflects badly on, or otherwise harms, the company as a whole, then everyone shares the responsibility to rectify it.
Yeah, an alter once impersonated me and it led to a huge drama and caused me to uh,,, *harm myself haha* The person cussed me out specifically because they thought it was ME, (Nova/Juno) the host. They wouldn’t hear that it wasn’t me and that I didn’t want to start drama and we took accountability and responsibility. I’m honestly scared this’ll happen again on a bigger scale, but I generally get along with my system, so.. hope not.
Do alters ever lash out against other alters when they have control of the body? I.e. if one alter particularly loves long hair and another alter is mad at that alter and takes control of the body, would they ever lash out and shave their head? What about the child alters? Do they ever get super upset and start trashing things because unlike a normal child there is no adult around to tell them they can't? Can alters sense when one is doing something destructive or insensitive and force their way their way to the front even if they weren't co-conscious?
Short answer yes; long answer - alters can absolutely take advantage of things they know other parts love, whether that's favorite clothing, an insecurity, or the bodies hair - or even sh - child alters can (and sometimes will) eat too much candy, or trash things, or not do things that need doing, or throw temper tantrums in front of other people etc - and it's mortifying and scary and yes absolutely, some protectors/caretakers are triggered front by dangerous/"bad" situations, so if someone's doing something that the brain tags as negative, it can pull them front.
This video is so current for me because I just lost my only friend because one of my other new alters got high and said some really mean things that he wasn't aware that he was saying because he forgot how small the body is and that weed will spread faster through us. She ended up leaving and we haven't talked since ;/
Hey guys! I didn’t know who to address this to, since I’m not sure who’s fronting when you read this so I’ll just ask you all! :) I was wondering what your opinion is on Moon Knight, the new marvel series on Disney+. The character is diagnosed with DID and I was wondering if you guys have seen it and if you have, what you thought of the way the show portrays it. If it gets anything right and what it gets wrong. My girlfriend and I were just wondering what your opinions on it were. I think the show is definitely worth the watch because the story is great, plus maybe you could give us all an input on what you all thought.
Do you think that you guys could attain an LMHT? (licensed mental health therapist) or the equivalent in your region. The insight you possess could help so many baby systems gain the tools they need💛 lots of love💛💛
Not only do they have DID they also live with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I doubt they have the energy to expend on getting a mental health license. They are making themselves knowledgeable about their disorders and at the same time trying to provide accurate info for others. This is exemplary. I applaud the spoons needed for this level of engagement. However don't forget they are getting mentally well, not exactly already mentally well enough to take on a taxing degree program as getting a mental health license.
This was very helpful. I'm really struggling with who to tell or how. I have fallen out with close friends and family and I'm scared to tell them incase it becomes gossip of the town but I think it might help clear things up between us. What does anyone think?
I don’t have any advice and in no way understand what your going through but I want you to know you are so strong and an amazing person, wherever you are in life I hope you are able to get answers and find people you can trust and are there for you. You are loved and appreciated
Usually for something like this, I'd say to first of all, make sure you're safe, then like send them a video maybe from this channel or something to see how they react. You could also like mention it in normal conversation, just as something interesting you heard about. Assuming they react well to that, I'd proceed carefully but slowly tell them about it or various things you're experiencing to again, test the waters and make sure they won't react badly for when you fully tell them Also, in a case like this, I'd recommend that you talk with your alters before telling whatever person and make sure they're on board with it too
(NOT DIAGNOSED) What they said about repercussions is true. My headmate has done stuff that I've suffered the consequences for. Can't change it, just have to live with it
Maybe a very dumb question and I apologize in advance for this. I have a close family member that I suspect has DID. So...I'm not sure this has already been addressed in other videos. I know that there are protectors....that help the host to not remember. So, does Nin still not know what has happened in the past?
'Separate states of awareness, separate states of being' Nin knows somethings, some situations are 'held' by other alters. By my understanding.. The littles hold traumas which would have stopped Chloe from surviving, other alters can also be trauma holders. The host doesn't always know these alters exist let alone what they hold.
Did you, (Nin, or someone from viewers) tried to explain something bad happened, when you were not fronting at that specific moment? Did you heard "that is just an excuse", "only because you are sick doesn't mean, that you can blame all your imaginary friends"? Or something mean when people seems don't believe you or think, that's stupid excuse
if a child that is in school has this disorder, how would the person calling the name in the register know what name to call (if the alter has a different name)
i think it depends on the teacher, im assuming most teachers would call them the body's legal name but some teachers might be cool and ask who's fronting from time to time
Hi no hate i just found your channel today but i started about one video that you guys did 2-3 years ago im really confused? But what happened to chloe? Sorry if this is rude im really confused someone pls reply😭😭
That seems... Bad?, As you say it's not fair to have to take responsibility... So why do you have to? Paraphrasing, you're saying: You not having done it doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility Hm, so to get any grip on this, let's look towards definitions, because without them we're hopeless. Responsibility: a duty to deal with or take care of somebody/something, so that you may be blamed if something goes wrong A system has a duty to take care of whatever an alter does so that they take the blame if an alter does it Why? I found in the video was that it was because you share one body, but that was never backed up with why having one body would lead to it being another person's responsibility. another wording found in the video is that a system is like a community, and alters are parts of it, and if part of the community messes up they all have to take care of it. Now following that analogy, why? Why would anyone else in that community have to take responsibility AKA have a duty to deal with someone else's bad actions?
if the other alters don't take responsibility, the negative consequences will affect everyone in the system eg. if one alter says something mean to a friend, every alter will have to deal with that friend feeling upset, angry etc and will have to take responsibility and fix it on behalf of the alter who did it but won't, otherwise they will have a distant, angry friend who might not want to be near anyone in the system again (because some alters will hurt them and the others won't do anything about it)
it's too bad that the videos aren't in order (from the looks of it) but I'm so happy to see them being re-uploaded. I knew you all would win the case!
What case?! What happened? I’m sorry, I’m new here, but loving the channel!
@@gabiklw they have a video titled something like "what happened to our videos" where they explain how this guy that they were working with basically tried to strike every single video of theirs because nin/chloe (cant remember who it was at the time) wasn't romantically interested in him. He was an entitled asshole and after being rejected again, he decided he didnt want any of his ideas to be on the channel. Thankfully for Dissociadid, there wasnt much that he contributed to the channel, which is why they have been able to get their videos back up!
They haven't won yet.
@@pedrosso0 yes, i also learned that today lol
@@jaheriawilson19 yes lol but it was true that you made the assumption they won and if it was one day before I would have asked how you know they'd won.
I feel so bad for the persecutors. They get such a bad rap. To me it seems like persecutors are the part of you that maybe you would have become if they wouldn't have taken that trauma on for you. A lot of people develop unhealthy coping mechanisms and can turn mean or vindictive when we experience trauma. It seems like when the split happened, the persecutor took on all that trauma that would have surfaced in a bad way and locked it away in themselves. So when they come out people often vilify them, without remembering how awful it would have been if they wouldn't have separated and formed their own identity.
I dont have DID but I watch these videos anyways bc it's so informative
im just in disbelief that so much informative content was taken down, especially when I reeeeealy needed it, its good that there are some things to think about in this video to learn and use... also, like only till now I didn't know OSDD was a term that existed... something I should look into...
@@manytinyspoons did they do anything ? sorry we live under a rock - osdd sys
@@elidrawz8346 I think they are just saying that you shouldn't take OSDD advice from a DID system. I'm not sure how different they are so I will withhold judgement on that topic.
@@belalaloca i don't think they're too different? osdd type 1 is described in the icd-11 as "partial DID" & the dsm states "this category includes identity disturbance associated with less-than-marked discontinuities in sense of self and agency, or alterations of identity or episodes of possession in an individual who reports no dissociative amnesia" so for example as we're an osdd-1b system we're not that different from DID except from the fact that we don't/barely have dissociative amnesia but it still has the same other experiences
i'm not too sure if types 2, 3 or 4 count as systems but if anyone w/ those disorders would like to enlighten us on those that'd be appreciated
didn't mean to write a very long reply ^^" -mika
@@elidrawz8346 no worries on the long reply! You definitely would know better than me, so I’d assume that the other commenter personally dislikes DissociaDID or thinks they are faking. Unfortunately these both seem to be common opinions, for some reason. I hope they respond!
Thank you for this, people tend to enjoy justifying deflecting from responsibility due to the illness they have and think its ok to do so. its doesn't matter what you have, you need to learn how to take accountability. this is why mental health and therapy is important, this is also how mental illness is prevented. once again thank you.
This video helps especially the people with DID but it's also interesting to watch as a curious person. ☺️
BEST CHANNEL EVER. Have a lovely weekend everyone and good fortune to everyone here.
I am just playing it in the background, because I watched those videos before, and I want my views to matter, even if only a little bit.
Comment mainly for algorithm.
But also sending much love and support to Your system! Take care of yourself :)
Glad to see you are all getting more of your videos back!!
Why she lost all her videos?
@@klaudian8245 they made a video about it in December 2021, you should definitely watch it
So glad these videos are coming back just as I got my diagnosis. From the looks of it there were so many videos! I’m sorry about what happened, and thank you so much for making content like this. It’s so helpful and relieving that someone out there is here to help me. I hope you’re doing well
I don't know why, but whenever you say hi or bye, I feel inclined to say it back. I know you won't hear me, but it just feels natural to y'know?
Loving having some more videos to binge watch again! Glad you found these old videos once more
So glad to see so many uploads! I hope you're doing well and staying safe
I’m glad you were able to upload this again. It sounds difficult having to take responsibility for something you didn’t do when you were fronting.
This video is awesome, your channel does so much good work for education and reducing stigma!
(Ps. that necklace/choker/collar thing is HELLA cute)
Oh my gosh, this is the first time I've heard someone talk about power dynamics within a system, it makes total sense but I just didn't put it together, were seeing a specialist to figure out what's going on and the idea that an alter fulfilling the role of host or any other alters would have more power within a system than someone else really just felt like a lightbulb turning on. Thank you!
I am so happy you are back. I was confused and lost before, when I found you I was depressed because I didn't want to accept it, I didn't even know this existed and that I was just some outcast and it was shocking. Months passed now and only last month I've become more accepting of there being a system and we're actually working together now. So thank you
Ooo congrats on getting some of these back! I saw that this was one of the videos you were asking for, and voila! Here it is! Welcome back!
Thank you, this was helpful. As an alter who did not ask to be a part of a system, this was hard to hear, but it's important. -- Jake
There is such amazing hope from you. I have days where I hate everyone or human beings in general but this helps with that a LOT.
I'm so happy I found you guys honestly
offered as a PS .. I appreciate this vid AND the intent behind it .. but I am also aware that there are many other factors .. in our case, "codependency" / narcissistic abuse vs. "empathy" are also such huge factors, and as much as I encourage my Dear One to have "system responsibility" (though we don't use that phrasing) .. at the same time, HIM protecting himself WISELY sometimes also means acknowledging that he can't ALWAYS do so, due to the OTHER person or persons are very possibly ab*sive. .. just some add'l thoughts as a PS .. :) THANK YOU for reposting, and I sincerely hope that all the social media controversies NEED NOT have repercussions on what you (y'all!) are doing NOW! :)
Love to see yall posting again
We knew a system who hurt us and even traumatized various alters in our system as a way to keep us quiet on personal matters and nobody took responsibility for the pain and suffering they caused not only us, but other people as well. It made us self-reflect and want to self-improve as individuals and as a system whole. System responsibility has been a huge part of this self-improvement process because we don't want to deal the type of damage that the other system caused us.
It must be a very hard line to walk, system responsibility. Another very good and informative video. Thank you!
You got the video back!! Congrats
The way you describe internal communication and joint responsibility for how you present externally sounds very reminiscent of how fully integrated individuals might interact at work within a company. These employees are all individuals, who behave and think differently, and who certainly don't directly control each other's actions. However, they all represent the company, and all share responsibility for each other's actions within that company. If one employee makes a mistake that reflects badly on, or otherwise harms, the company as a whole, then everyone shares the responsibility to rectify it.
I was thinking it was like being in a community of any sort. I thought community groups, neigbourhoods, protests, sports teams too
Much love goes out to all of you 💕
This is fascinating, I myself don't have this or know anyone with this disorder, so these are fascinating perspectives
Yeah, an alter once impersonated me and it led to a huge drama and caused me to uh,,, *harm myself haha*
The person cussed me out specifically because they thought it was ME, (Nova/Juno) the host. They wouldn’t hear that it wasn’t me and that I didn’t want to start drama and we took accountability and responsibility. I’m honestly scared this’ll happen again on a bigger scale, but I generally get along with my system, so.. hope not.
I love this fierce style/make up from that day! 😍
yeah quite Rubyish wouldn't you say? Everyone's style looks great on the body and I love how unique they all are.
Do alters ever lash out against other alters when they have control of the body? I.e. if one alter particularly loves long hair and another alter is mad at that alter and takes control of the body, would they ever lash out and shave their head? What about the child alters? Do they ever get super upset and start trashing things because unlike a normal child there is no adult around to tell them they can't? Can alters sense when one is doing something destructive or insensitive and force their way their way to the front even if they weren't co-conscious?
Short answer yes; long answer - alters can absolutely take advantage of things they know other parts love, whether that's favorite clothing, an insecurity, or the bodies hair - or even sh -
child alters can (and sometimes will) eat too much candy, or trash things, or not do things that need doing, or throw temper tantrums in front of other people etc - and it's mortifying and scary
and yes absolutely, some protectors/caretakers are triggered front by dangerous/"bad" situations, so if someone's doing something that the brain tags as negative, it can pull them front.
@@paradox13 thanks for your response! Answered it all (:
This is so illuminating
I like learning about this disorder
This video is so current for me because I just lost my only friend because one of my other new alters got high and said some really mean things that he wasn't aware that he was saying because he forgot how small the body is and that weed will spread faster through us. She ended up leaving and we haven't talked since ;/
Hey guys! I didn’t know who to address this to, since I’m not sure who’s fronting when you read this so I’ll just ask you all! :) I was wondering what your opinion is on Moon Knight, the new marvel series on Disney+. The character is diagnosed with DID and I was wondering if you guys have seen it and if you have, what you thought of the way the show portrays it. If it gets anything right and what it gets wrong. My girlfriend and I were just wondering what your opinions on it were. I think the show is definitely worth the watch because the story is great, plus maybe you could give us all an input on what you all thought.
Wow I’m here after 17 seconds lmaoo(I’m also the first like:))
Do you think that you guys could attain an LMHT? (licensed mental health therapist) or the equivalent in your region. The insight you possess could help so many baby systems gain the tools they need💛 lots of love💛💛
Not only do they have DID they also live with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I doubt they have the energy to expend on getting a mental health license. They are making themselves knowledgeable about their disorders and at the same time trying to provide accurate info for others. This is exemplary. I applaud the spoons needed for this level of engagement.
However don't forget they are getting mentally well, not exactly already mentally well enough to take on a taxing degree program as getting a mental health license.
What is a baby system?
@@kjsaaaaaaaa I'm assuming a system where the host has just discovered they have DID and is unsure what to do or how to deal with it
This was very helpful. I'm really struggling with who to tell or how. I have fallen out with close friends and family and I'm scared to tell them incase it becomes gossip of the town but I think it might help clear things up between us. What does anyone think?
I don’t have any advice and in no way understand what your going through but I want you to know you are so strong and an amazing person, wherever you are in life I hope you are able to get answers and find people you can trust and are there for you. You are loved and appreciated
@@qwellyboy thank you xx
Usually for something like this, I'd say to first of all, make sure you're safe, then like send them a video maybe from this channel or something to see how they react. You could also like mention it in normal conversation, just as something interesting you heard about. Assuming they react well to that, I'd proceed carefully but slowly tell them about it or various things you're experiencing to again, test the waters and make sure they won't react badly for when you fully tell them
Also, in a case like this, I'd recommend that you talk with your alters before telling whatever person and make sure they're on board with it too
Do you ever get anxious being a system? If so, how do you deal with it?
(NOT DIAGNOSED) What they said about repercussions is true. My headmate has done stuff that I've suffered the consequences for. Can't change it, just have to live with it
I have a question. if one the alters has a relationship and this alter integrates with another alter. Do they still love the person or not?
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I need a recap of the system... it's been a couple months...
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Can you do a video on dissociative fugues/ fugue state pretty pls
Are those contact lenses? Or a reflection?
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Maybe a very dumb question and I apologize in advance for this. I have a close family member that I suspect has DID. So...I'm not sure this has already been addressed in other videos. I know that there are protectors....that help the host to not remember. So, does Nin still not know what has happened in the past?
'Separate states of awareness, separate states of being'
Nin knows somethings, some situations are 'held' by other alters.
By my understanding.. The littles hold traumas which would have stopped Chloe from surviving, other alters can also be trauma holders. The host doesn't always know these alters exist let alone what they hold.
@@wanderingohm Thank you for clarifying. This is all very confusing to me.
Celeste watching this like 🧐😬😵💫
Wasn't Nin integrated with Kyle in Kya now? Help, I'm confused
This is a reupload from the past as the video got taken down, this video was filmed before they integrated :)
Did you, (Nin, or someone from viewers) tried to explain something bad happened, when you were not fronting at that specific moment? Did you heard "that is just an excuse", "only because you are sick doesn't mean, that you can blame all your imaginary friends"? Or something mean when people seems don't believe you or think, that's stupid excuse
Wit is she back back or are these old
Nin and Kyle are seriously the best alters
if a child that is in school has this disorder, how would the person calling the name in the register know what name to call (if the alter has a different name)
i think it depends on the teacher, im assuming most teachers would call them the body's legal name but some teachers might be cool and ask who's fronting from time to time
The Alter is a part of you, so yeah it is your fault and you responsability the action and consecuensces of the repercutions of any alter of you did.
Hi no hate i just found your channel today but i started about one video that you guys did 2-3 years ago im really confused? But what happened to chloe? Sorry if this is rude im really confused someone pls reply😭😭
Chloe fused with Nina and formed Nin, watch the Video about Integration for more imformation
@@sensei9767 ohhhhh okay thank u😭😭😭😭
That seems... Bad?, As you say it's not fair to have to take responsibility... So why do you have to?
Paraphrasing, you're saying: You not having done it doesn't mean you shouldn't take responsibility
Hm, so to get any grip on this, let's look towards definitions, because without them we're hopeless.
Responsibility: a duty to deal with or take care of somebody/something, so that you may be blamed if something goes wrong
A system has a duty to take care of whatever an alter does so that they take the blame if an alter does it
Why? I found in the video was that it was because you share one body, but that was never backed up with why having one body would lead to it being another person's responsibility.
another wording found in the video is that a system is like a community, and alters are parts of it, and if part of the community messes up they all have to take care of it. Now following that analogy, why? Why would anyone else in that community have to take responsibility AKA have a duty to deal with someone else's bad actions?
if the other alters don't take responsibility, the negative consequences will affect everyone in the system eg. if one alter says something mean to a friend, every alter will have to deal with that friend feeling upset, angry etc and will have to take responsibility and fix it on behalf of the alter who did it but won't, otherwise they will have a distant, angry friend who might not want to be near anyone in the system again (because some alters will hurt them and the others won't do anything about it)
You understand that all of your alters are part of you..right? Im not trying to be rude but you always say "we" instead of "i".
They inhabit the same body but they are all individual consciousness with different skill aspects and memories depending on whos present
I recently had a persecutor make death threats to my now exgirlfriend, now we're going to court... Taking the heat for it sucks 🥲👌