@@CaetsuChaijiCh if you have one lvl 90; you can get away with rolling second chances by farming all the lvl 90 end game content. This is especially true for P9 - P12 since farming the drops weekly is important.
@geoffreyprior8931 I'm mostly saying there is no reason to farm second chances endlessly to shuffle over and over, given the exact probabilities in the video. But there is nothing wrong with using your second chances that you get anyway 😊
Really? I often do this in line with roulettes and other runs. I got a gold cert, I sold the mount and bought a house. I doubt I'll ever see another, but I try. It can work out.
I want to clarify that getting some second chances as a side bonus when doing other stuff is perfectly reasonable. I think it was more the idea of specifically queueing for stuff exclusively to try and collect second chances and for no other reason at all! 😅
Small graphic correction at 4:55 Besides the red dot pair, and the green dot pair: there is a third way to get 3 lines, by filling in the two on the right. The odds calculation is correct at 1/12. More grinding for me! Edit: I guess the graphic at 9:49 is the same. But I don't think it makes a major different in the math
For me, it’s always just a harmless little side activity, that nets both easy levels and a decent chunk of resources if I play my cards right. But there are times where I look at the requirements and ask myself if I really want to go out of my way to do them. Usually it’s nothing to bad though, and I admit I quite enjoy doing Solo-Extremes. And I am needing to do more Palace of the Dead as well. The choice is always ours after all, cheers Cae.
Indeed! I do think spending any extra second chances you might have to increase the chance of 2 lines or more is probably a good way to do it. But ultimately, having fun with it is more important too! 😁
I half expected the long answer to be you literally just saying, "no lmao" Good video, too. I'm not one for wondrous tales but the probabilities were interesting to learn.
notably, the extra tomes/gold certificate aren't unlocked by default, and are gated by your level when you take the journal. Free trial players will not be able to get a gold certificate even if they get a three line. I'm not sure when the last 3 options become available, but if you do get a 3-line and can't take the gold certificate, the 1mil MGP is probably worth more than 3 silver certificates, considering you get 1/3 of the certificate reward on a 2 line clear, compared to 1/10 of the MGP reward.
Supposedly the full menu should unlock when you have a level 90 job, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an msq progression requirement as well that I couldn't find 😅
I always do Wondrous Tails and just hand in whatever I get. I combine this with other activities, such as leveling up Trusts with the level 71 - 79, level 80, or level 81 - 89 dungeons and use my Second Chances on this to do it multiple times a week. For anything else, I just do whatever is easy and/or can still give me loot I need/want. Or it can be a dungeon/trial I never did before. I'll prioritize those as well. I choose MGP all the time for my reward for 1 line or 2 lines. Bronze Certificate items can be bought for cheap on the MB if I don't get them from my GC. Same goes for Silver Certificates, although not as cheap. Gold Certificates are too rare and I'll get those items eventually from the MB when I no longer have anything to spend gil on and will get more money as I keep playing. Or I somehow get lucky and get a Gold Certificate.
Indeed, a very reasonable approach! The observation that the bronze and silver rewards aren't worth much also means they are cheap to buy is a very good point too! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Bronze are in 3 digit range, those prices are really not worth mentioning for pretty much all players. Silver kind of depends on where players are in the game and what they need to buy instead. All of them combined cost around 800k on the Light DC. This can be a lot for some players, especially newer ones. I know I won't buy silver. I could, it wouldn't hurt me financially, but I don't really want to use any of the minions right now and there might be a time when I no longer need MGP. Or I can do Faux Hollows once a week. But who am I kidding, I'm not doing Unreal trials. I can buy all of it, including the exclusive items, on the MB. If anything, I'll start do it someday until I have all achievements for it, but no longer. Considering everything I still want to do, Unreal trials are not a good way to spend my time in FFXIV.
I have a niche use case for getting the limited tomestone, and I might as well share it. Since I typically don't run MSQ roulette or Alliance roulette (And I'm not actively wanting anything from the Saucer), 50 tomes is essentially one day of the week where I can skip getting tomes with my dailies and instead level another job, do some other piece of content, or just play something else. On busy weeks where my playtime is very restricted, that can genuinely make a difference! It's a very limited use case, though, and specifically there so I can get a break from doing the same two dungeons _every day_ for _months_ 💀
That is a good point! It also aligns with what someone else said where they chose the 1M MGP on a lucky 3 line, when there was an event ending where they needed a lot of MGP ^^ It also makes sense to grab those 50 weekly tomestones if it saves you time that you could spend on something you'd rather do. Or if it saves you from doing something you'd rather not, as quality of life is also important! ^^
As someone who's still going through msq and leveling, I'm a bit reluctant on getting a job to lvl 90 since it'd mean I'd either be unable to complete a journal, or I'd have very limited options to do so. So I juggle my jobs to level them a bit evenly. I'm actually considering starting a new job because all my current ones are around lvl 75 and I still haven't started shadowbringers lol The trade off is that I get a lot of second chance because i'm constantly doing new content, so every week I get to reroll as much as I want/am willing to spend time on it
If you get plenty of second chances you should be safe to be able to complete journals even with the full menu due to the retries, but I understand wanting to play it safe 😊
This is actually a big concern of mine as a white mage main I’m fast approaching lv90 doing EW content and a white mage isn’t exactly optimized for doing single que unsync so hitting 90 will ruin me.
You can use the allagan poetics to buy ShB tome accessories and turn them in at your GC to buy things like glamour prisms, which always sell fast and between 18-20K gill. Its a better investment than selling maps. You can also buy/sell the 5K GC items because they are used for relics but they may take some time to sell.
At least in the EU region, Glamour Prisms tend to sell for ~200-300 gil. With around 500 Poetics you are probably right you can flip it into around 5000 Grand company seals ^^ Anyway my point is that mileage may vary, the best you can do is check the prices and your options! I've seen Treasure maps sell for over 50K when a new map has been introduced, so sometimes that can also play a factor! I can't speak on the relic items though, but I could imagine it makes sense that those would be valuable for the right player to buy! Thank you for bringing up these alternative options! :D
The 50 tomes option has a niche use. Raiders will often prep a WT in advance in order to get the 50 tomes right after reset. This lets them hop into savage with better gear faster. Mostly a time saver, but when you're doing post reset stuff that bit of time saved can mean a lot.
I could be wrong on this, but don't they disable the collection of tomes and Khloe book gives only poetics a few weeks prior to a raid release? I remember seeing that right before 6.4 hit since I still had the book and the rewards were only poetics.
@@effyvanity Yeah. It's a great way to get a headstart on future weeks though. I've been in many post reset farm parties for savage. Most come with a WT book filled out because it saves 1-2 runs before reclears/prog.
I like doing WT to level up my side jobs and get some tombstones; even if you don’t get all three lines, those make it worth the hassle. Plus Khloe and her sister Zhloe are so wholesome, I named my real-life cats after them (well, I named them Chloe and Zoe, close enough)
I have gotten three lines TWO times.. And that's doing 3 WTs per week, most weeks.. (3 endgame characters because I'm crazy). For the most part, I will use shuffle if I have the points to do it, but never really farm it unless a new 8 man raid patch just dropped. Only then will I farm those for semi-quick Second Chance points, because i also have other benefits of running those raids for the weekly loot drop or new orchestrion and minion. And, fun fact, my two times winning did come on patch days where I shuffled multiple times. I've contemplated making a new character on a totally different account.. If Guildhests give Second Chance points and seeing how you can very easily get to, say, level 20, in no time. Especially with he help of a level 90. New Character -> Speedrun to level 20 and unlocking Guildhests -> do the 4 guildhests with my main acct. = 4 SC points per >Hour? ... Idk, I might try it someday. But too much other stuff to do than waste time on that right now!
I've gotten the 3 line 3 times. Never tried very hard but I do try my luck shuffling if I have ones to spare so I can get one of those potential 3-line patterns.
Not you sir your info is great and amazing and it's about time the right stuff is on youtube I meant the other guys sorry if I posted on wrong thread but you are and all you're vids are fabulous ./hats off too you sir Polgera Vandiel o/
@@CaetsuChaijiCh yes I'm sorry sir I actually just got through bragging about you on a Reddit thread talkin about retainers in what they needed to be at the hard cap for perception cuz I've been preaching perception 4-years and I've been head-butted on it I talk about you on adamantoise all the time about your videos all 367 of em. I say if y'all insist on being copy cats and not playing the game you pay for. Follow Chaiji and no one else. I been the whole time there aint many of us doin it right and you sir are on point so glad I found your video feeds. Keep up the good work and I'll keep up the promoting and down the just recently came here WoW so called "ContentCreators" content whiners more like lol. Anyway great job sir thank you I'm am spreading the word if your hits dont go up the next few weeks then my name ain't Pol . Have a good one
Speaking of can you go ahead and shoot those hard caps out there for Max bonuses on the 50 special items from quicks so I don't have to dig thru 400 videos again ❣️❣️❣️❣️🙏
Also come hang out any time . POLGERA Vandiel. Adamantoise . Usually hanging out around the mansion. Love to meet you and introduce you to some folks I'm always on and not hard to find 💯
@MrGetreal1001 I appreciate the invitation, but I am pretty much only on the EU region so I unfortunately can't come by until maybe one day there is worldwide travel 😅
You see the treasure map reward you can choose for the 9 seal reward? Sometimes when you go and find the treasure it opens and becomes a dungeon (intended for up to 8 players) Completing this dungeon gives you completion on the treasure dungeon task 😊
Normally you want to do map parties with people since you will get a higher chance of a portal appearing which will lead you to a dungeon. If you are in an FC ask if they do map parties and if so you can also store any treasure maps you find (either from WT or gatherers/market board) in an FC Member's mail.
I had the bad luck to get the gold certificate before the mounts were an option (well, Ixion was in there)... so I went with the ornate, and it carried me a long while, and then was glam for a while. I don't know if I regret it or not.
I have finished shb completely havent started ew. But my WT is always Hw and arr content ive never ever gotten stb or shb content in my wt. is there someway to update your wt?
Well as mentioned, you need a lvl 90 job for it to include other content 😊 if you have that and it still only gives arr hw content, then I am not sure 😅
it's not a bad thing to have in-game for gamblers, leveling catch up (might go back to do it for the new jobs!) and maybe tomes if you're lazy; I stopped caring about it, though; I'm omni90 and don't really need the gil... I'd rather do some quick eureka bunnies or treasure maps if i *really* want money.
Yeah, that makes sense! After all, the overall conclusion sort of implies that a reliable money farming method will beat wondrous tails consistently. So unless you really want the tails rewards, there is no reason to specifically do that 😊
Honestly, I don't really go for the actual rewards of Wonderous Tails because I have all the money I could ever want from BLU solo'ing gazelleskin maps from going for the "The Luckiest of Lords/Ladies" achievement on two characters. The only thing I remember going for was the untradeable Cait Sith Ribbon for my catgirl that had a glam that needed it. This is because I didn't want to do the Unreal that was in the cycle at the time. Two lines aren't as bad. I've never gotten three lines. My friend who has been doing wonderous tails somewhat frequently when it first came out (not as much these days) has only seen 3 lines once. Though the special cutscene that plays for it is apparently really cute and has led me to SOMEWHAT try for it weekly.
I juat try to get one line and then I turn it it because I use it to level alt jobs on my alt characters. Sometimes I'll get two lines and thats always awesome but I don't try to force it. I recently got three lines and that was freakin amazing.
I did my very first wonderous tales last week. I was 1 sticker off of 3 lines. Unfortunately it was a cross section so I only ended up with 1 line in the end... But I was so close!...
For me the question is: How much do I want to deal with other people? I do enough content that interacts with other people that I can shuffle into one line most weeks. If I ran more content with randoms I'd be able to bring that up and probably get a one line every week by shuffling more.
I was lucky and had 2 (3) liners before 6.4 so I made 50 mil gil just from those. It is so worth it. But need to hold onto the gold cirtificis until new armor is released with the 5 Materia slots.
Literally only use wondrous tails for exp. I haven't done it since a couple months into endwalker for this reason. But once Dawntrail comes out, I'll be back at it again.
Yeah, I mostly stopped doing it every week once I had levelled everything too, but it isn't the worst thing if you can get the stickers as a side product of what you do anyway 😊
I've gotten a golden commendation on my main, but I'm sitting on it until a really amazing mount that wows me comes along so I can get it immediately without the hollows grind... I'm really hoping for a green kamuy like the wonderous lanner.
That is a very good way to remember it! 😁 And if you don't need the money payout for selling a chest piece or something, waiting for something you really want is a good idea! 😊
That's fair! If there's any of the one line rewards you care about, then it's worth going for it as long as you don't spend too long looking for second chances! 😁
Unless you specifically want the one line rewards, I recommend using any extra second chances you do have to try and get better odds for 2 or more lines. But it is up to you 😊
The first time i got 3 lines was on my main during like 2 days remaining on the ff14 x 15 event, and i only had 1 seater mounts, with 0 progress in the gs, so i just went in with mgp The second time i got 3 lines was on my alt, who was at the time lvl 75, i didnt retry anything, i didnt shuffle, i asked a friend to unsync 2 stormblood exs and i got 3 lines on it by random chance Issue, the gold certificate wasnt an option, so i just picked mgp as well, exp, poetics, mgp Since reachinv 90 on the new main ive gotten 2 lines 6 times, 1 line 40 times, and no 3 lines so far
Yeah I understand choosing the mgp in both situations! I wasn't aware you couldn't choose the gold certificate if you didn't have a certain amount of progress, so that is very interesting information! Thank you for sharing! 😁
Can't wait to do wonderous again next expansion, sadly leveled every charakter to max already and have 0 use for any tomes anymore :/ content where joshy p
i got this twice in a row on a new character and i didnt have a lv 90 on it to claim the gold certificate and i haven't seen it since. at least i got like fuckin uhh 2.6m mgp from it.
The jounals are good at powering up jobs you don't like playing. Using it with tribe quests to level those jobs. Using this way to level healer jobs. Don't like playing healer.
That is also a very good strategy! I normally send my retainers on the long ventures that always give cash so I never have extra money to get from the enclave, but if you don't do it like that, you would certainly get a lot more out of those 10k! 😁
Correct! Technically you have 2 weeks to do it, but then again, let's remember that you also need to eat and sleep and such 😂 I uh, didn't even consider that aspect actually 🤣 not that it really changes the conclusion!
@@CaetsuChaijiCh as a person that's been here since hw there are much better ways to not only level but the rewards as well . Bunny fates earn me 2.5 mil when I try and carrot nibbles in shar a very good way for gil
@@danryder3865 I mean, the whole ultimate conclusion at the end of the video is that it isn't economically viable to invest a lot of time in wondrous tails, but that if you can do it as a side effect of other things (for example, if you do roulettes for weekly tomestones, the level 90 dungeon task is zero effort), then it is not an issue to do it. As the EXP reward is always 50% of a level, when you reach a certain level range, doing, for example, Ultima Weapon Extreme 9 times within less than 10 minutes, for half a level, will outpace most if not all other exp grinding methods in the game. And that is ignoring the part where often you can get multiple stickers for free by just playing the game
As someone who does not have all jobs at max level, I beg to differ. It helps immensely with extra XP for alt jobs without spamming Main Scenario roulette, Leveling roulette or PVP.
Exactly. The part of the conclusion is that grinding for the 3 line isn't really worth, but doing the journal at all is generally a good idea, if even just for the 9 seals! 😁
Please if you are a new player that's been playing less than five years don't listen to people like this okay p probably don't have any friends and just want somebody to hear; not listen to them and SE has not put anything useless to do in this game if somebody wants to go for a chance point so they could buy minions the board to sell when they're worth millions of dollars who are you to tell them different; near here it is a free economy by the way prices fluctuate depending on what time of the year we're in how many people are playing I don't got my WT every week that's really not that bad at all for two million Gill my GPS is through the roof son don't even know what GPS is..... depart second-ch hear this if you're reading players in the first day like you should be and I'll Wednesday you're done cuz you're being hunting and you're doing the most efficient thing in the game Uno first these guys ars when I do get my opinion like that out in my liscio chats and stuff I'll get my opinion sure and how I like to do things but I always state
You realize my whole point was that the rarest items are so unlikely to get that it is more effective to just get the money and buy the item because of how absurdly low chance it is to get right? Also I don't understand why you had to comment on my number of friends (of which I have plenty 😊) or suggest this video is inaccurate for players that have been with the game for less than five years 😅
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Reasons I do Wondrous Tails:
1. Khloe is precious
2. MGP so I can get spinny whee whee tortoise mount
Understandable! Just don't go farming for second chances! Keep some wondrous tails energy for next week! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh if you have one lvl 90; you can get away with rolling second chances by farming all the lvl 90 end game content. This is especially true for P9 - P12 since farming the drops weekly is important.
@geoffreyprior8931 I'm mostly saying there is no reason to farm second chances endlessly to shuffle over and over, given the exact probabilities in the video. But there is nothing wrong with using your second chances that you get anyway 😊
The idea that someone would spend hours grinding Second Chance points is kinda mind-blowing for me.
Indeed! I have met such a unicorn at least once, but hopefully that's because they are so rare 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh D:
Really? I often do this in line with roulettes and other runs. I got a gold cert, I sold the mount and bought a house. I doubt I'll ever see another, but I try. It can work out.
I want to clarify that getting some second chances as a side bonus when doing other stuff is perfectly reasonable.
I think it was more the idea of specifically queueing for stuff exclusively to try and collect second chances and for no other reason at all! 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Understandable! 😊
Small graphic correction at 4:55
Besides the red dot pair, and the green dot pair: there is a third way to get 3 lines, by filling in the two on the right. The odds calculation is correct at 1/12.
More grinding for me!
Edit: I guess the graphic at 9:49 is the same. But I don't think it makes a major different in the math
Oops you are right! Thank you for the correction! 😁
For me, it’s always just a harmless little side activity, that nets both easy levels and a decent chunk of resources if I play my cards right. But there are times where I look at the requirements and ask myself if I really want to go out of my way to do them. Usually it’s nothing to bad though, and I admit I quite enjoy doing Solo-Extremes. And I am needing to do more Palace of the Dead as well. The choice is always ours after all, cheers Cae.
Indeed! I do think spending any extra second chances you might have to increase the chance of 2 lines or more is probably a good way to do it. But ultimately, having fun with it is more important too! 😁
I would also add if you are leveling alt jobs use the XP reward on the highest one as the xp scales with the level
That is correct. The exp is always half a level regardless of your level!
I half expected the long answer to be you literally just saying, "no lmao"
Good video, too. I'm not one for wondrous tales but the probabilities were interesting to learn.
"short answer: No"
"Long answer: NO LMAO"
😂
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😁
Thank you for this! Just getting back into the game and I completely forgot about this!
Welcome back! I'm glad you found it helpful! 😁
notably, the extra tomes/gold certificate aren't unlocked by default, and are gated by your level when you take the journal. Free trial players will not be able to get a gold certificate even if they get a three line. I'm not sure when the last 3 options become available, but if you do get a 3-line and can't take the gold certificate, the 1mil MGP is probably worth more than 3 silver certificates, considering you get 1/3 of the certificate reward on a 2 line clear, compared to 1/10 of the MGP reward.
Supposedly the full menu should unlock when you have a level 90 job, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an msq progression requirement as well that I couldn't find 😅
I always do Wondrous Tails and just hand in whatever I get. I combine this with other activities, such as leveling up Trusts with the level 71 - 79, level 80, or level 81 - 89 dungeons and use my Second Chances on this to do it multiple times a week. For anything else, I just do whatever is easy and/or can still give me loot I need/want. Or it can be a dungeon/trial I never did before. I'll prioritize those as well.
I choose MGP all the time for my reward for 1 line or 2 lines. Bronze Certificate items can be bought for cheap on the MB if I don't get them from my GC. Same goes for Silver Certificates, although not as cheap. Gold Certificates are too rare and I'll get those items eventually from the MB when I no longer have anything to spend gil on and will get more money as I keep playing. Or I somehow get lucky and get a Gold Certificate.
Indeed, a very reasonable approach!
The observation that the bronze and silver rewards aren't worth much also means they are cheap to buy is a very good point too! 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Bronze are in 3 digit range, those prices are really not worth mentioning for pretty much all players.
Silver kind of depends on where players are in the game and what they need to buy instead. All of them combined cost around 800k on the Light DC. This can be a lot for some players, especially newer ones.
I know I won't buy silver. I could, it wouldn't hurt me financially, but I don't really want to use any of the minions right now and there might be a time when I no longer need MGP.
Or I can do Faux Hollows once a week. But who am I kidding, I'm not doing Unreal trials. I can buy all of it, including the exclusive items, on the MB. If anything, I'll start do it someday until I have all achievements for it, but no longer. Considering everything I still want to do, Unreal trials are not a good way to spend my time in FFXIV.
I have a niche use case for getting the limited tomestone, and I might as well share it. Since I typically don't run MSQ roulette or Alliance roulette (And I'm not actively wanting anything from the Saucer), 50 tomes is essentially one day of the week where I can skip getting tomes with my dailies and instead level another job, do some other piece of content, or just play something else. On busy weeks where my playtime is very restricted, that can genuinely make a difference!
It's a very limited use case, though, and specifically there so I can get a break from doing the same two dungeons _every day_ for _months_ 💀
That is a good point! It also aligns with what someone else said where they chose the 1M MGP on a lucky 3 line, when there was an event ending where they needed a lot of MGP ^^
It also makes sense to grab those 50 weekly tomestones if it saves you time that you could spend on something you'd rather do. Or if it saves you from doing something you'd rather not, as quality of life is also important! ^^
As someone who's still going through msq and leveling, I'm a bit reluctant on getting a job to lvl 90 since it'd mean I'd either be unable to complete a journal, or I'd have very limited options to do so. So I juggle my jobs to level them a bit evenly. I'm actually considering starting a new job because all my current ones are around lvl 75 and I still haven't started shadowbringers lol
The trade off is that I get a lot of second chance because i'm constantly doing new content, so every week I get to reroll as much as I want/am willing to spend time on it
If you get plenty of second chances you should be safe to be able to complete journals even with the full menu due to the retries, but I understand wanting to play it safe 😊
This is actually a big concern of mine as a white mage main I’m fast approaching lv90 doing EW content and a white mage isn’t exactly optimized for doing single que unsync so hitting 90 will ruin me.
You can use the allagan poetics to buy ShB tome accessories and turn them in at your GC to buy things like glamour prisms, which always sell fast and between 18-20K gill.
Its a better investment than selling maps. You can also buy/sell the 5K GC items because they are used for relics but they may take some time to sell.
At least in the EU region, Glamour Prisms tend to sell for ~200-300 gil. With around 500 Poetics you are probably right you can flip it into around 5000 Grand company seals ^^
Anyway my point is that mileage may vary, the best you can do is check the prices and your options!
I've seen Treasure maps sell for over 50K when a new map has been introduced, so sometimes that can also play a factor!
I can't speak on the relic items though, but I could imagine it makes sense that those would be valuable for the right player to buy!
Thank you for bringing up these alternative options! :D
The 50 tomes option has a niche use.
Raiders will often prep a WT in advance in order to get the 50 tomes right after reset. This lets them hop into savage with better gear faster.
Mostly a time saver, but when you're doing post reset stuff that bit of time saved can mean a lot.
I could be wrong on this, but don't they disable the collection of tomes and Khloe book gives only poetics a few weeks prior to a raid release? I remember seeing that right before 6.4 hit since I still had the book and the rewards were only poetics.
@@effyvanity Yeah. It's a great way to get a headstart on future weeks though. I've been in many post reset farm parties for savage. Most come with a WT book filled out because it saves 1-2 runs before reclears/prog.
Indeed, I am also pretty sure the 50 weekly tomes are disabled right when a new set is added 🤔
But I can see how it could save some time 😊
I always come to the conclusion of not forcing it. Just see how luck goes. I’ve gotten three lines one time in like 7 years but it felt really good 😀😄
Indeed, it should really just be viewed as a lucky lottery win, and that probably leads to a healthier relationship with the wondrous tails as well 😊
I like doing WT to level up my side jobs and get some tombstones; even if you don’t get all three lines, those make it worth the hassle. Plus Khloe and her sister Zhloe are so wholesome, I named my real-life cats after them (well, I named them Chloe and Zoe, close enough)
Indeed, the exp alone makes it worth doing! As long as you don't go on a wild hunt to try and farm second chances and stuff! 😁
I have gotten three lines TWO times.. And that's doing 3 WTs per week, most weeks.. (3 endgame characters because I'm crazy). For the most part, I will use shuffle if I have the points to do it, but never really farm it unless a new 8 man raid patch just dropped. Only then will I farm those for semi-quick Second Chance points, because i also have other benefits of running those raids for the weekly loot drop or new orchestrion and minion. And, fun fact, my two times winning did come on patch days where I shuffled multiple times.
I've contemplated making a new character on a totally different account.. If Guildhests give Second Chance points and seeing how you can very easily get to, say, level 20, in no time. Especially with he help of a level 90. New Character -> Speedrun to level 20 and unlocking Guildhests -> do the 4 guildhests with my main acct. = 4 SC points per >Hour? ... Idk, I might try it someday. But too much other stuff to do than waste time on that right now!
It is an interesting strategy with the guildhests, but I wonder if it is worth the trouble! 😅 Congratulations on the three liners though!!
I've gotten the 3 line 3 times. Never tried very hard but I do try my luck shuffling if I have ones to spare so I can get one of those potential 3-line patterns.
That is a good way to go about it! Congratulations with the three three lines! 😃
You can have 4 potential lines and that last one you do 99.99% of the time will end in a miss on all of them. Its annoying lol.
It's extra EXTRA fun when you've been shuffling to really try and get a decent line up, and then you get nothing 😕
@@CaetsuChaijiChlol
I did one shuffle today and got one line, I'm staying with that. I've got one more thing to do.
Not you sir your info is great and amazing and it's about time the right stuff is on youtube I meant the other guys sorry if I posted on wrong thread but you are and all you're vids are fabulous ./hats off too you sir
Polgera Vandiel o/
Thank you so much 🥰 yeah the replies doesn't always work as expected 😊
@@CaetsuChaijiCh yes I'm sorry sir I actually just got through bragging about you on a Reddit thread talkin about retainers in what they needed to be at the hard cap for perception cuz I've been preaching perception 4-years and I've been head-butted on it I talk about you on adamantoise all the time about your videos all 367 of em. I say if y'all insist on being copy cats and not playing the game you pay for. Follow Chaiji and no one else. I been the whole time there aint many of us doin it right and you sir are on point so glad I found your video feeds. Keep up the good work and I'll keep up the promoting and down the just recently came here WoW so called "ContentCreators" content whiners more like lol. Anyway great job sir thank you I'm am spreading the word if your hits dont go up the next few weeks then my name ain't Pol . Have a good one
Speaking of can you go ahead and shoot those hard caps out there for Max bonuses on the 50 special items from quicks so I don't have to dig thru 400 videos again ❣️❣️❣️❣️🙏
Also come hang out any time . POLGERA Vandiel. Adamantoise . Usually hanging out around the mansion. Love to meet you and introduce you to some folks I'm always on and not hard to find 💯
@MrGetreal1001 I appreciate the invitation, but I am pretty much only on the EU region so I unfortunately can't come by until maybe one day there is worldwide travel 😅
Can you explain to what Treasure Dungeons mean? I read it was like the Firmament and unlocked it but when I went in and out it didn't complete
You see the treasure map reward you can choose for the 9 seal reward? Sometimes when you go and find the treasure it opens and becomes a dungeon (intended for up to 8 players)
Completing this dungeon gives you completion on the treasure dungeon task 😊
Normally you want to do map parties with people since you will get a higher chance of a portal appearing which will lead you to a dungeon. If you are in an FC ask if they do map parties and if so you can also store any treasure maps you find (either from WT or gatherers/market board) in an FC Member's mail.
Oooh, I see. I've never done treasure maps before. Completely forgot about it 🤣
I had the bad luck to get the gold certificate before the mounts were an option (well, Ixion was in there)... so I went with the ornate, and it carried me a long while, and then was glam for a while. I don't know if I regret it or not.
Well, in retrospect, you could have sold the ornate piece! But who knows if it was worth that much that long ago! 😅
I have finished shb completely havent started ew. But my WT is always Hw and arr content ive never ever gotten stb or shb content in my wt. is there someway to update your wt?
Well as mentioned, you need a lvl 90 job for it to include other content 😊 if you have that and it still only gives arr hw content, then I am not sure 😅
it's not a bad thing to have in-game for gamblers, leveling catch up (might go back to do it for the new jobs!) and maybe tomes if you're lazy; I stopped caring about it, though; I'm omni90 and don't really need the gil... I'd rather do some quick eureka bunnies or treasure maps if i *really* want money.
Yeah, that makes sense! After all, the overall conclusion sort of implies that a reliable money farming method will beat wondrous tails consistently. So unless you really want the tails rewards, there is no reason to specifically do that 😊
Honestly, I don't really go for the actual rewards of Wonderous Tails because I have all the money I could ever want from BLU solo'ing gazelleskin maps from going for the "The Luckiest of Lords/Ladies" achievement on two characters.
The only thing I remember going for was the untradeable Cait Sith Ribbon for my catgirl that had a glam that needed it. This is because I didn't want to do the Unreal that was in the cycle at the time. Two lines aren't as bad.
I've never gotten three lines. My friend who has been doing wonderous tails somewhat frequently when it first came out (not as much these days) has only seen 3 lines once. Though the special cutscene that plays for it is apparently really cute and has led me to SOMEWHAT try for it weekly.
I wasn't aware of this specific cutscene! That's interesting! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh ...so I just looked it up. It's very simple one text box. It's not as cute as my friend made it out to be lol
I juat try to get one line and then I turn it it because I use it to level alt jobs on my alt characters.
Sometimes I'll get two lines and thats always awesome but I don't try to force it. I recently got three lines and that was freakin amazing.
A good relaxed approach! I would do it pretty much the same! ^^ And congratulations on the 3 liner!!
Eureka orthos Dungeon counts for deep dungeon sticker also
Yes that makes sense! I am not sure why I forgot to mention that! Naturally, the task is to do any deep dungeon! :D
I did my very first wonderous tales last week.
I was 1 sticker off of 3 lines.
Unfortunately it was a cross section so I only ended up with 1 line in the end...
But I was so close!...
That's the spirit! I'm sure you'll get it next time!
For me the question is:
How much do I want to deal with other people?
I do enough content that interacts with other people that I can shuffle into one line most weeks. If I ran more content with randoms I'd be able to bring that up and probably get a one line every week by shuffling more.
That is also a way to look at it! 😊
As long as you aren't grinding extra just for the one line, I think it's generally a benefit!
I was lucky and had 2 (3) liners before 6.4 so I made 50 mil gil just from those. It is so worth it. But need to hold onto the gold cirtificis until new armor is released with the 5 Materia slots.
Wow! That's awesome! Good call on waiting! 😁
My fc 2nd in command gave me the idea.
Literally only use wondrous tails for exp. I haven't done it since a couple months into endwalker for this reason. But once Dawntrail comes out, I'll be back at it again.
Yeah, I mostly stopped doing it every week once I had levelled everything too, but it isn't the worst thing if you can get the stickers as a side product of what you do anyway 😊
I've popped the book on a hotbar so I remember it each week lol
I've gotten a golden commendation on my main, but I'm sitting on it until a really amazing mount that wows me comes along so I can get it immediately without the hollows grind... I'm really hoping for a green kamuy like the wonderous lanner.
That is a very good way to remember it! 😁
And if you don't need the money payout for selling a chest piece or something, waiting for something you really want is a good idea! 😊
I always make sure I have one line, two lines is rare and I already have most of the silver rewards I want
That's fair! If there's any of the one line rewards you care about, then it's worth going for it as long as you don't spend too long looking for second chances! 😁
Should I go for 2 or 3 lines? I'm lucky to get even one after shuffling them around. I take what I can get.
Unless you specifically want the one line rewards, I recommend using any extra second chances you do have to try and get better odds for 2 or more lines. But it is up to you 😊
I got three lines a few months ago. Sadly, I wasn't lv 90 yet so I couldn't exchange it for crafted gear; I *only* ended with 1 million MGP instead.
Oof! That sucks! At least a million MGP is quite a bit! 😊
I don't really think much about it
I just shuffle until I get one line then hope for the best
That's a reasonable approach, as long as you aren't actively farming second chances just to farm second chances 😁
The first time i got 3 lines was on my main during like 2 days remaining on the ff14 x 15 event, and i only had 1 seater mounts, with 0 progress in the gs, so i just went in with mgp
The second time i got 3 lines was on my alt, who was at the time lvl 75, i didnt retry anything, i didnt shuffle, i asked a friend to unsync 2 stormblood exs and i got 3 lines on it by random chance
Issue, the gold certificate wasnt an option, so i just picked mgp as well, exp, poetics, mgp
Since reachinv 90 on the new main ive gotten 2 lines 6 times, 1 line 40 times, and no 3 lines so far
Yeah I understand choosing the mgp in both situations! I wasn't aware you couldn't choose the gold certificate if you didn't have a certain amount of progress, so that is very interesting information! Thank you for sharing! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Can confirm, if you don't have a class at lvl 90 you cannot choose the gold certificate, I had the same thing happen to me. :(
Can't wait to do wonderous again next expansion, sadly leveled every charakter to max already and have 0 use for any tomes anymore :/ content where joshy p
It might still be worth doing a journal each week, just to see if you won something big 😁 everyone can use more cash after all! 😄
i got this twice in a row on a new character and i didnt have a lv 90 on it to claim the gold certificate and i haven't seen it since. at least i got like fuckin uhh 2.6m mgp from it.
Unreal probably gives you better prospects of actually getting any of those rewards.
Indeed. At least the faux hollow gives you points consistently so you can guarantee that you can buy a thing eventually!
I run trial roullete a lot for fun, get lots of second chances, then forget to hand in the book and lose everything every week.
Oof that sucks! Maybe making a reminder for yourself on like Monday might help? 😊
The weekly storybook is obviously worth it so you can be Khloe's best friend. :P
Absolutely! The bestest friends! 😄
During my 2 years of play i have got 2 lines 2 times so i really dont even bother with wondurus tails 😂
That's understandable! I myself have yet to get a three line too 😂
I got 3 lines once. Bought a mount for myself smh.
Well it is still a valuable mount! 😁 Still nice!
The jounals are good at powering up jobs you don't like playing. Using it with tribe quests to level those jobs.
Using this way to level healer jobs. Don't like playing healer.
Very true! There's always the exp reward! 😁
I just turn in the 10k reward at the Doman Enclave and they give me 20k for it :)
That is also a very good strategy! I normally send my retainers on the long ventures that always give cash so I never have extra money to get from the enclave, but if you don't do it like that, you would certainly get a lot more out of those 10k! 😁
198 hours (at minimum) of farming second chances? But a whole week have only 168 hours so you simply can't do it before the reset, no ? :p
Correct! Technically you have 2 weeks to do it, but then again, let's remember that you also need to eat and sleep and such 😂
I uh, didn't even consider that aspect actually 🤣 not that it really changes the conclusion!
That is why i have what i like to call siblingbot. They farm, i profit.
No
Indeed, the three line is not worth the effort 😅
@@CaetsuChaijiCh as a person that's been here since hw there are much better ways to not only level but the rewards as well . Bunny fates earn me 2.5 mil when I try and carrot nibbles in shar a very good way for gil
@@danryder3865 I mean, the whole ultimate conclusion at the end of the video is that it isn't economically viable to invest a lot of time in wondrous tails, but that if you can do it as a side effect of other things (for example, if you do roulettes for weekly tomestones, the level 90 dungeon task is zero effort), then it is not an issue to do it.
As the EXP reward is always 50% of a level, when you reach a certain level range, doing, for example, Ultima Weapon Extreme 9 times within less than 10 minutes, for half a level, will outpace most if not all other exp grinding methods in the game. And that is ignoring the part where often you can get multiple stickers for free by just playing the game
Gotcha. No it's not justified for non leveling. That's my stance love your content not trying to be a dick just like discussion.
First
Congratulations! You have won one wondrous tails sticker! 😁😁
@@CaetsuChaijiChWOOOOOOO!!
no its not at all
Well Indeed, that is part of the conclusion at the end! 😄
As someone who does not have all jobs at max level, I beg to differ. It helps immensely with extra XP for alt jobs without spamming Main Scenario roulette, Leveling roulette or PVP.
Exactly. The part of the conclusion is that grinding for the 3 line isn't really worth, but doing the journal at all is generally a good idea, if even just for the 9 seals! 😁
@@CaetsuChaijiCh Hey, getting 30k MGP or trading in the gold at the Doman Enclave for double its worth is also good for extra cash. 👀
Please if you are a new player that's been playing less than five years don't listen to people like this okay p probably don't have any friends and just want somebody to hear; not listen to them and SE has not put anything useless to do in this game if somebody wants to go for a chance point so they could buy minions the board to sell when they're worth millions of dollars who are you to tell them different; near here it is a free economy by the way prices fluctuate depending on what time of the year we're in how many people are playing I don't got my WT every week that's really not that bad at all for two million Gill my GPS is through the roof son don't even know what GPS is..... depart second-ch hear this if you're reading players in the first day like you should be and I'll Wednesday you're done cuz you're being hunting and you're doing the most efficient thing in the game Uno first these guys ars when I do get my opinion like that out in my liscio chats and stuff I'll get my opinion sure and how I like to do things but I always state
You realize my whole point was that the rarest items are so unlikely to get that it is more effective to just get the money and buy the item because of how absurdly low chance it is to get right?
Also I don't understand why you had to comment on my number of friends (of which I have plenty 😊) or suggest this video is inaccurate for players that have been with the game for less than five years 😅