People need to understand. NBC *postponed the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson* in order to make this announcement. Kareem was really something else, man.
We understand just fine. We've had LeBron with the decision, Kobe wanting out of LA, MJ retirement mid prime. So the magnitude of the moment is understood.
The NBA never wanted Kareem in Milwaukee. It just could not admit it. Same with Lebron in Cleveland hence The Decision in prime time. So this worked out that the Bucks got a championship and the NBA got its best player in one of its big markets. It also knew how to put most of the blame on the player in what was a bigger corporate-media business decision
As a lifelong bucks fan I understand why he left. I live in Wisconsin and know it’s not LA or New York but he had reasons that couldn’t be fulfilled here at the time. It’s sad but there wasn’t many other cultures here besides native Americans, white polish/ Germans and the small black communities that existed. It’s much different now than it was back then. And now fully understanding what happened I don’t blame him for leaving and I’m glad he helped us win a chip and franchise history. Chips here matter way more than building super teams in big markets!!!
@@LordPorter06 It’s funny when ppl talk about Giannis being loyal as a difference between him and Kareem with the Bucks or like Bron and KD leaving teams now, like he grew up in Greece and he’s from Nigeria idk if I became like a superstar in Barvaria or something I would probably love it but I get it when ppl wanna leave 💀💀
@@LordPorter06 Maybe not KD I guess that’s kinda different bc he also left the bay but Bron didn’t even get to miss a single Ohio winter before he left for Miami he’s not even from Cleveland that’s like u grew up in Racine and they just made u the entire economy of Milwaukee one day always been crazy to me 😭
As a life long Bucks fan and longtime Wisconsin resident, I don't begrudge Kareem a bit for requesting a trade. He brought a championship to the Bucks, and his reasoning for wanting a trade makes sense even today. I really appreciate his contribution to Buck's history.
Kareem stated in his 2nd memoir that he would often drive some 90 miles from Milwaukee to Chicago to hang with friends and listen to jazz. This is a good perspective on the trade, well done
@@panam4redd: Milwaukee wasn't a haven for jazz and night clubs, it was natural to seek out other places to find that. Like a country boy playing for the Bulls going to a rural club for country music.
As a New Yorker who had Puerto Rican family only in NY and NJ, Kareem's concerns are relatable. When I moved to Maryland it was a culture shock. Everything closes so early, there's more hostility towards Latinos, and its main city in Baltimore is a nightmare of crime in comparison to even the Bronx.
multiply that hostility by 10X when it came to Black citizens in Milwaukee and Wisconsin, in general. Especially by the cops. Theres a reason why no Black free agent ever goes to Milwaukee, theyre usually drafted and then, they leave as free agents.
Correction: Magic Johnson was the Finals MVP in 1980 (though many feel Kareem should have been). Kareem did win a second Finals MVP with the Lakers, but it was in 1985 against the Celtics.
Kareem didn't play, the Lakers didn't believe they could win. Everyone except Magic. When Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was out, for a game I think, Magic said we're still going to win, without Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Is Lakers teammates looked at him crazy, because he was a rookie. he played center in place of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and did exactly what he said they would. The Lakers won without KAJ and a rookie lead his team to the first five NBA championships.
@@w.davidholland7228 that was for one game they didn’t have Kareem. The other 3 wins Kareem definitely played and averaged 33 points per game that series
Reading his book, Kareem said that when he went back to play against Milwaukee, after being in LA for years, he said he suddenly 'realized how much he loved and missed the place and especially the people.'
Kareem valued aesthetics, not just salary, in ways that almost no other NBA star did. That’s admirable. I always wished he could have been drafted by the Bulls, so that he could have played in a city obviously more suited to his eclectic ways, yet still in the Great Lakes region.
You're beating around the bush Kareem had the same problem black players had in Green Bay playing for the Packers then they felt alone there wasn't enough other Black people around to make them feel comfortable players they always felt like they were on display in public walking around in Green Bay John Jefferson, James Lofton and others would say they had to drive an hour or more just to get a haircut there wasn't any black barbershops in Green Bay or surrounding areas..
@@taytay8283 then he married a white lady. My point is as a Muslim he must recognize Allahs revelation that their is only one race human and we have different hues of skin not separate races
A kick in the pants being a Bùcks fan/madisonian. The man knew what he wanted. Had the stones to go get it. Cant argue with this. Its admirable. We should all be so bold. This should apply even if your the best basketball player in the world.
Kareem, as a Buck, was arguably the MVP of all time (he declined in his Laker years). He gave everything he had to the franchise. But he's a painfully shy person who has a hard time making friends. Thus he was extremely lonely in a city that didn't have a lot of citizens who shared his eclectic interests. So he gave the team six phenomenal seasons and then felt it fair to ask them to cut him loose. Fair deal.
I can agree with all you said except the part about him "declining" as a Laker. Don't be ridiculous. As a Laker he was still an all-star, won NBA MVP three times, and five NBA titles.
@@lwmson I'm just going by the statistics, not the team and media honors you cite. So your claim is he was just as good when he was in his late 30s as when he was 25? Who's being "ridiculous" now my friend?
you also forgot to hear the quiet part out loud, which is Milwaukee was a very racist city to its Black citizens, He was still a private person in Los Angeles or New York City, But, stay clueless and deluded.
@@bucksdiaryfanhe did carried the lakers in the 80s because magic wouldn’t win anything without his presence. His sky hook shot was no doubt indefensible and how his special offense carried the lakers to a dynasty. He already won six rings by 1988 and he never thought he would be the GOAT (before MJ).
A lot of it had to with the Big O Oscar Robertson retiring. He spoke with Oscar after the Bucks won the title again in 2021 and they both loved how the Bucks won it again
He hates white people and is a very hateful person and his family has issues also hate hurts everyone his son beat his wife and was imprisoned the apple does not fall far from the tree. Many evil people love Kareem but good people always sense something off with him he is a violent nasty person. Many players and officials could not stand him.
Kareem was the MVP of the 1980 final through the first 5 games but he was injured during the 6th game and Magic won the MVP for that finals. Kareem did get his 2nd finals MVP in 1985 in the win over Boston, the first time the Lakers would beat Boston in the finals after losing the previous 8 against Boston. Bill Russell won 7 of his 11 titles vs the Lakers.
Lew/Kareem gave em six. In retrospect, that's a lot! He also gave them his best, at his absolute prime, in the '74 Finals... His play in those playoffs went way beyond. His game six 15-foot baseline hook in Boston is one of the NBA's shot of shots, on the order of Jerry West's 1970 Finals 65-foot bomb. I rooted hard for the Bucks because of Lew/Kareem and The Big O.
Yeah that 1974 team of Kareem Oscar and Dandridge was really great but Oscar was padt his prime and even if Kareem was the world's best player.. the legend 34 year old John havlicek was still in his prime
He was simply the best center i ever saw play. My dad said Wilt. But i was huge Celtics fan but Kareem was always my favorite individual player.. the single most beautiful unstoppable shot of all time. That great sky hook. He could rebound and play defense as well as a pretty damn good free throw shooter too! Miss you Kareem
@@Elguapodelfuego outside of those instances, over the span of his entire career, it was an unstoppable shot. Wilt was also a freak of nature, let's not forget.
Milwaukee is still one of the most segregated city in America, so just imagine was it was like in the 60's 70's It wasn't about the team why he left, it was the city and state
The segregation index measures the entire metro, not just the city proper. A lot of Milwaukee's older neighborhoods developed along ethnic lines, but in over 20 years of living there I can't say I ever had to look very hard to find a mixed crowd. However, the suburban counties are very white, very geriatric, and tend to be very racist.
@@KnightBoat Nice spin on manufactured (read: REDLINING) racial segregation from the racist white trash that controlled and (continues to control) Milwaukee, but go ahead.
@@xanderc1225 I can give you a good 9 rings where the right teams won 80s showtime lakers won and Shaq and Kobe Lakers won 1 ring (I assume it's lebron James) doesn''t count because he's synonymous with superteams but I still don't count the 2020 Lakers a super team but that's me
This article worked very hard to stay clear of the hard truth even avoiding any reference to his race and the Black culture.. His requesting a trade had everything to do with Milwaukee being a overwhelmingly white city figuratively and culturally. Kareem was a sophisticated Black Muslim male who needed to be amongst more people like him.
Milwaukee was and is RACIST. Heck they recently beat up a Bucks player a few years back if y'all can recall. And simply because he was parked in a wrong spot returning a Redbox movie at Walgreens. They profiled and when they found out he was a bucks player it was an oops. Then they did pay him quietly.
Kareem and the Lakers beating The Celtics in the finals were my introduction into basketball. My Dad would watch the games and of course I would join him, asking questions when something happened that I didn’t understand. I remember my Dad telling me to pay attention to Kareem and his sky hook. For its time it was a thing of beauty! I really am glad I got to watch the Showtime Lakers, then Michael and Da Bulls (the only time I “cheated” on The Lakers ha ha!), and of course Kobe. For me, today’s game just isn’t the same. I still watch, don’t get me wrong, but it just doesn’t have the same vibe as it used to for whatever reason. Again, that’s just ME and MY OPINION! I don’t expect anybody to agree. If you do, cool. If not, I’m actually glad you either just started watching like I did all those years ago, or you still love the game as it’s played today!
And he didn't pull the shenanigans that a lot of guys do. Like a Harden, for instance. Or Kyrie. He didn't fake injuries or whine and sit out for no reason.
You made a mistake. Magic was the 1980 NBA Finals MVP, not Kareem. Kareem was finals MVP in 1971 and 1985. That is actually very impressive - 14 year gap! I really enjoyed the video.
Props to Kareem for doing those. I like the Bucks but understand. If a team can’t win and your doing all you can then go. I still wish Don Nelson would have said ‘yes’ to that Marques Johnson-Jamaal Wilkes trade. Marques would be in the hall!
As a Bad Boys Pistons fan who hated seeing the phantom foul that robbed a championship, i disliked the manhandling of an old man Kareem on his retirement tour even more. Not that he didn’t bang down low with the best of em, but having to deal with Mahorn pulling the chair or Laimbeer plain stiff as a board straight as an arrow arms and hand in perfect position to defend his hookshot, but having to deal with hardcore boxing out and no cheap layups without being jacked to pieces…. Okay, I didn’t really hate it. I wish he retired earlier.
To think that Kareem requested to be traded to either the Lakers or the Knicks is mind boggling. Older Knicks fans can only imagine how dominant the Knicks could have been with Kareem, at his peak, in their lineup.
Bucks ended up getting Brian Winters who became a 2x Allstar with Bucks and Junior Bridgeman great player played 10 years for Bucks and traded other assets from this trade for 2 first round picks. Bucks were an amazing squad in 80's never had a single losing season that decade. I grew up in the 80's and felt betrayed I never got to see Kareem in a Bucks uniform. Thank the good lord Giannis is the superstar the city loves that the superstar loves back.
Lew Alcindor is a legend by any metric and whatever you choose to call him. A very young Kevin Garnett played him in a movie against Earl 'the goat' Manigault. Kareem shattered all records, except for rebounds. Still a top 5 player. Of All Time.
Had the Bucks let Kareem play out his contract, he would have been a free agent but subject to compensation as per the rules of the time. The Bucks did well to trade him when they did and got a much better return than had they waited until he hit free agency. I remember the Knicks were one of the teams frequently mentioned as a potential landing spot (Kareem was from New York), but they had very little to offer in terms of the young talent the Bucks were seeking. The Lakers actually had players who could help Milwaukee's team.
Typical Knicks, unable to land the big one, with the exception of 33 Patrick Ewing. Other than that our GMs have been terrible for most of our relevancy. I remember we gave u an entire team for Melo and then couldn't achieve more past that since so much already went into merely getting him. Ugh.....We got 2 chips in the 70's but if we would've got Kareem.... 4 to 5 at LEAST...
@@Megachron1-2 Had the Knicks landed Kareem back then, they probably would have resembled a lot of those early Laker teams Kareem played on. That is, one megastar and a bunch of guys who'd have a hard time getting a pickup game after the season. Remember the 1977 Western finals? The Blazers dominated the Lakers at every position but center. That trade left the Lakers very thin at a number of positions, something that didn't begin to turn until the 1977 draft when the Lakers took Norm Nixon with their first-round pick, and then of course, Magic Johnson in 1979.
Kareem, wilt and shaq had a similar story of leaving a weaker market and going to a super market in Los Angeles and getting a super team or powerful duo. Shaq got Kobe and glen rice, kareem got magic and worthy, wilt got west and Baylor but Baylor fell apart: I think you can add Dwight, Anthony Davis but Dwight failed with Kobe and Davis and lebron won a ring. These super teams and leaving franchises isn’t new.
Magic didn't arrive in LA until 79 and Worthy was in 82. Kareem didn't leave to create a super team. The Laker team he went to had a 30-52 record prior to his arrival. You can disparage him leaving Milwaukee but it's false to accuse him of leaving to create a super team or team up with some other super player already on the Lakers.
I am from Milwaukee and don't blame him for leaving. However, I do kind of blame the Bucks for bringing him back to Milwaukee a few years ago for events and to help promote the team. It's like dude you didn't like it here and couldn't wait to be traded don't act like you have so much love for the city now. It was so phony.
The Big Guy won a title and leaves. At least he got a title. Kareem with the Bucks is like Napoleon on Italy if the stories ends there will already be a great history
The former Lew Alcindor is already a proven commodity entering the NBA, a generational talent. And inasmuch this feature gives a clear reason why he left the Bucks, there are eventual talents who stayed amidst the city's atmosphere and culture. And for this, I appreciate Michael Jordan. Perhaps he and Chicago complemented each other at the right time and situation. MJ turned a franchise into a viable and respectable commodity and still is quarter a century after playing his final game. MJ was intensely loyal, while the Bulls were so foolish and full of themselves they can redo the glorious era shortly after "The Last Dance." And there's Tim Duncan. Since his close signing with Orlando (yeah, another what if for the Magic), TD stayed there for good and still his home upon retirement. Kudos for the Bucks owners and management for keeping the team in Milwaukee. They lost Kareem in 1975. 23 years later, they traded Dirk Nowitzki on draft night (another what if, the second time). They smarten a bit by keeping Giannis.
Not one of the greatest but The Greatest. Check out this man's resume from high school, through college and the N B A. No other player can match it or even come close. Yes, Bron, M J and others were and are great but Kareem is the greatest of them all - A basketball fan, not a personality fan, from the beautiful, tranquil Islands of The Bahamas 🏝️🌅🏖️🇧🇸. Peace, love, life and blessings ❤️🙏
Took us 50 years to get another one, but I don't begrudge Kareem for leaving. He had to do right by himself and Milwaukee wasn't right for him at the time.
The Lakers have a long list of present and future Hall of Famers they didn't draft: Wilt Chamberlain Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Shaquille O'Neal Steve Nash Kobe Bryant (traded from Charlotte) LeBron James Carmelo Anthony Anthony Davis Dwight Howard Karl Malone Gary Payton The Suns also have an extensive list of this nature: Dennis Johnson Charles Barkley Shaquille O'Neal Chris Paul Grant Hill Jason Kidd I apologize for any I've left out, but here's my point: What is it about these two markets that's so attractive to some of the best players of all time? I am just a little surprised there's no videos like that here, at least that I can find. The fact that the Lakers have 17 titles while the Suns have none is secondary as far as I can tell. I'm not a diehard fan of either of these teams btw.
@Fabrizzio Joaquin Monsalve Salcedo I don't think you read my comment close enough. The Lakers did draft those guys in Minneapolis. I made a list of those guys they DIDN'T draft.
@@martinjkrumm8764 well most of those guys you names won’t be put in the HOF as Lakers but for other teams. They just happened to play for the Lakers at one point trying to win a ring
The LA Lakers are basically the New York Yankees of Basketball 🏀. Every NBA Player or Future player all want to be a Laker just like Every Baseball player wants to be a Yankee at some point in their career. That and the LA Lakers are one of the most Valuable Sports Teams in North America alongside the Dallas Cowboys 🏈, New York Yankees ⚾️, Toronto Mable Leafs 🏒, New York City FC & LA Galaxy ⚽️. By playing as a Laker you are also playing in the footsteps of some of the NBA’s Greats, LeBron James, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, Gary Payton, Dwight Howard, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson etc, same is true with Being in the New York Yankees as you are in the footsteps of MLB greats like Yogi Berra, Babe Ruth, Derek Jeter, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Mariano Rivera, Reggie Jackson etc.
@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced I am Redskins (Commanders) fan I hate the Cowboys. By the way in Liberal Washington DC I get to a lot of compliments while wearing Redskins hats. Also Dallas Cowboy fans are everywhere because of a brilliant marketing campaign as America’s team 🇺🇸 back in the 1970s and it’s so annoying. That and the Cowboys won 5 SuperBowels, yes there are better teams like the NE Patriots, Pittsburgh Stealers, SF 49ers, etc. but the Cowboys have money, brilliant marketing & the Cheerleaders 📣🔥🔥😍😍
to be COMPLETELY honest i did do and/or PROBABLY will SOMEWHAT like the bucks because i did do and/or PROBABLY will really LOVE legend kareem abdul-jabbar
Kareem never wanted to play for Milwaukie he hated the weather and playing in the city he was from New York and played in Los Angeles at UCLA and the main reason was he was a Muslim in a city where their weren't many.
Kareem famous is Los Angeles Lakers than Milwaukee I was inspire on his story but I respect his decision moving in Los Angeles or New York were his comfable.
By a huge margin, MIL was the most successful franchise ‘70-‘74. 5 yrs at 74%. 4 Conference Finals. 2 Finals. 78-18 Championship season. “Abandoned a franchise.” Terrible title.
@@TheCman183 Kareem wanted to live somewhere else. 6 years. See above levels of success. That franchise largely owed their huge success to one man: Cap. Word-choice-wise, “abandon” is unfair.
The Bucks went after the Knicks first offering Kareem. Why would the Knicks say no to a potential superstar is still beyond me. So when the Bucks came to Los Angeles offering Kareem, Jack Kent Cooke jumped at the chance offering Brian Winters and numerous draft picks the Bucks used to get Marques Johnson and Junior Bridgeman. Before Magic Johnson came to town, Kareem was the glue that kept the Lakers going.
The Knicks had a chance to secure Julius "Dr. J" Erving" too before the Philadelphia 76ers obtained him. Other than the NY Knicks glory years from the early 1970's, NY Knicks management has not been as successful on obtaining top level players.
So much integrity that he looks down on half the population because they politically supported someone or someones he doesn’t like. He’s an arrogant ass and only deserves praise for his on-the-court actions and noting else.
He hated the east coast he left the east and literally never came back. Never showed New York no love where he was born and raised. Hell of a basketball player but never likes how he abandoned the east like that.
Don’t worry folks, Giannis won’t be too far away from doing the same exact thing soon This trade didn’t stop there, many many years later, Dirk Nowitzki was traded from Milwaukee to Dallas for the rights to some guy name tractor trailer
The dirk trade was stupid but Giannis doesn’t want to leave. It’s not about clout chasing for him. It’s the family oriented organization that is the bucks
People need to understand. NBC *postponed the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson* in order to make this announcement. Kareem was really something else, man.
To postpone Carson in the mid to late 70s would have been a huge deal.
We understand just fine. We've had LeBron with the decision, Kobe wanting out of LA, MJ retirement mid prime. So the magnitude of the moment is understood.
@@Luvmysippidon't forget Magic's announcement.
The NBA never wanted Kareem in Milwaukee. It just could not admit it. Same with Lebron in Cleveland hence The Decision in prime time. So this worked out that the Bucks got a championship and the NBA got its best player in one of its big markets. It also knew how to put most of the blame on the player in what was a bigger corporate-media business decision
❤Thank you for your point
As a lifelong bucks fan I understand why he left. I live in Wisconsin and know it’s not LA or New York but he had reasons that couldn’t be fulfilled here at the time. It’s sad but there wasn’t many other cultures here besides native Americans, white polish/ Germans and the small black communities that existed. It’s much different now than it was back then. And now fully understanding what happened I don’t blame him for leaving and I’m glad he helped us win a chip and franchise history. Chips here matter way more than building super teams in big markets!!!
I mean, I don't know about the Knicks, but for the Lakers, the stakes are about chasing our eternal rival.
Exactly
Born and raised in Milwaukee and it’s trash.
@@LordPorter06 It’s funny when ppl talk about Giannis being loyal as a difference between him and Kareem with the Bucks or like Bron and KD leaving teams now, like he grew up in Greece and he’s from Nigeria idk if I became like a superstar in Barvaria or something I would probably love it but I get it when ppl wanna leave 💀💀
@@LordPorter06 Maybe not KD I guess that’s kinda different bc he also left the bay but Bron didn’t even get to miss a single Ohio winter before he left for Miami he’s not even from Cleveland that’s like u grew up in Racine and they just made u the entire economy of Milwaukee one day always been crazy to me 😭
As a life long Bucks fan and longtime Wisconsin resident, I don't begrudge Kareem a bit for requesting a trade. He brought a championship to the Bucks, and his reasoning for wanting a trade makes sense even today. I really appreciate his contribution to Buck's history.
Yeah I guess that’s more important than honoring a contract you willingly signed.
@@The_Bigotyou do realize that free agency wouldn’t become a thing for over a decade after this right?
@@The_Bigot NBA free agency didn't exist until 1988. He couldn't choose which team to sign with.
And it was only 1 time. Harden and Durant hop teams like journeymen who are just trying to keep a job. LeBron isn't that much better.
Can not criticize Kareem here many fanboys lol. I never liked him I liked Wilt and always wished Wilt would kick his bratty ass.@@The_Bigot
Kareem stated in his 2nd memoir that he would often drive some 90 miles from Milwaukee to Chicago to hang with friends and listen to jazz. This is a good perspective on the trade, well done
He could've easily lived in Waukegan and commuted.
@@JamusChristussometimes you just wanna be somewhere you know you're accepted
@@panam4redd bingo
1970's Milwaukee obviously was not the cosmopolitan/big city like Chicago so it isn't unusual to hear he went there for friends and clubs/music.
@@panam4redd: Milwaukee wasn't a haven for jazz and night clubs, it was natural to seek out other places to find that. Like a country boy playing for the Bulls going to a rural club for country music.
As a New Yorker who had Puerto Rican family only in NY and NJ, Kareem's concerns are relatable. When I moved to Maryland it was a culture shock. Everything closes so early, there's more hostility towards Latinos, and its main city in Baltimore is a nightmare of crime in comparison to even the Bronx.
multiply that hostility by 10X when it came to Black citizens in Milwaukee and Wisconsin, in general. Especially by the cops. Theres a reason why no Black free agent ever goes to Milwaukee, theyre usually drafted and then, they leave as free agents.
Correction: Magic Johnson was the Finals MVP in 1980 (though many feel Kareem should have been). Kareem did win a second Finals MVP with the Lakers, but it was in 1985 against the Celtics.
Can’t believe that error
Kareem didn't play, the Lakers didn't believe they could win. Everyone except Magic. When Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was out, for a game I think, Magic said we're still going to win, without Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Is Lakers teammates looked at him crazy, because he was a rookie. he played center in place of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and did exactly what he said they would. The Lakers won without KAJ and a rookie lead his team to the first five NBA championships.
Magic deserved it as a rookie playing CENTER, Losing his best teammate.
@@w.davidholland7228 that was for one game they didn’t have Kareem. The other 3 wins Kareem definitely played and averaged 33 points per game that series
Thank you. I was about to say the same.
Reading his book, Kareem said that when he went back to play against Milwaukee, after being in LA for years, he said he suddenly 'realized how much he loved and missed the place and especially the people.'
Kareem valued aesthetics, not just salary, in ways that almost no other NBA star did. That’s admirable. I always wished he could have been drafted by the Bulls, so that he could have played in a city obviously more suited to his eclectic ways, yet still in the Great Lakes region.
You're beating around the bush Kareem had the same problem black players had in Green Bay playing for the Packers then they felt alone there wasn't enough other Black people around to make them feel comfortable players they always felt like they were on display in public walking around in Green Bay John Jefferson, James Lofton and others would say they had to drive an hour or more just to get a haircut there wasn't any black barbershops in Green Bay or surrounding areas..
Yet Kareem married a white chick stop
@@bruceluther5738 naw he married a black lady Janice Brown in 1971 divorced in 78…. What are you talking about
@@taytay8283 then he married a white lady. My point is as a Muslim he must recognize Allahs revelation that their is only one race human and we have different hues of skin not separate races
the double standards in your statement are unreal now imagine a white man saying that about black people.
Don't ever let a white guy cut your hair they dont know nothing about them waves
Some really good clips of a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in this video. Stuff that I haven't seen before, and I've watched a lot of video of Kareem.
A kick in the pants being a Bùcks fan/madisonian. The man knew what he wanted. Had the stones to go get it. Cant argue with this. Its admirable. We should all be so bold. This should apply even if your the best basketball player in the world.
Kareem, as a Buck, was arguably the MVP of all time (he declined in his Laker years). He gave everything he had to the franchise. But he's a painfully shy person who has a hard time making friends. Thus he was extremely lonely in a city that didn't have a lot of citizens who shared his eclectic interests. So he gave the team six phenomenal seasons and then felt it fair to ask them to cut him loose. Fair deal.
I can agree with all you said except the part about him "declining" as a Laker. Don't be ridiculous. As a Laker he was still an all-star, won NBA MVP three times, and five NBA titles.
@@lwmson I'm just going by the statistics, not the team and media honors you cite. So your claim is he was just as good when he was in his late 30s as when he was 25? Who's being "ridiculous" now my friend?
you also forgot to hear the quiet part out loud, which is Milwaukee was a very racist city to its Black citizens, He was still a private person in Los Angeles or New York City, But, stay clueless and deluded.
@@bucksdiaryfanhe did carried the lakers in the 80s because magic wouldn’t win anything without his presence. His sky hook shot was no doubt indefensible and how his special offense carried the lakers to a dynasty. He already won six rings by 1988 and he never thought he would be the GOAT (before MJ).
Wilt was better
I was 13 and loved him and couldn't understand why he didn't like us. Broke my heart
A lot of it had to with the Big O Oscar Robertson retiring. He spoke with Oscar after the Bucks won the title again in 2021 and they both loved how the Bucks won it again
He did not like you because he is a racist.
He hates white people and is a very hateful person and his family has issues also hate hurts everyone his son beat his wife and was imprisoned the apple does not fall far from the tree. Many evil people love Kareem but good people always sense something off with him he is a violent nasty person. Many players and officials could not stand him.
Kareem was the MVP of the 1980 final through the first 5 games but he was injured during the 6th game and Magic won the MVP for that finals. Kareem did get his 2nd finals MVP in 1985 in the win over Boston, the first time the Lakers would beat Boston in the finals after losing the previous 8 against Boston. Bill Russell won 7 of his 11 titles vs the Lakers.
I loved all the old footage you managed to get for this, really great video
Lew/Kareem gave em six. In retrospect, that's a lot! He also gave them his best, at his absolute prime, in the '74 Finals... His play in those playoffs went way beyond. His game six 15-foot baseline hook in Boston is one of the NBA's shot of shots, on the order of Jerry West's 1970 Finals 65-foot bomb. I rooted hard for the Bucks because of Lew/Kareem and The Big O.
Agreed, he knew who he was, throughly. And those WI winters probably weren’t missed much, college ball there, familiarity.
Yeah that 1974 team of Kareem Oscar and Dandridge was really great but Oscar was padt his prime and even if Kareem was the world's best player.. the legend 34 year old John havlicek was still in his prime
awesome channel!!! your content is very high-quality, look forward to more
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar...the original diva
Aka Roger Murdock, Airline pilot!! 😂😂
@@femgoo don’t get the reference
he acted in the movie Airplane (1980) where he played the co-pilot. !
translation - I am a white male.
@@RK-um9tu translation hebrew israelite or whatever purple,green,orange,blue,and yellow out fit you got on
He was simply the best center i ever saw play. My dad said Wilt. But i was huge Celtics fan but Kareem was always my favorite individual player.. the single most beautiful unstoppable shot of all time. That great sky hook. He could rebound and play defense as well as a pretty damn good free throw shooter too! Miss you Kareem
Wilt blocked that sky hook multiple times in a game
@@Elguapodelfuego outside of those instances, over the span of his entire career, it was an unstoppable shot. Wilt was also a freak of nature, let's not forget.
@davefleming Be careful with using “my Dad said.” That launches endless Airplane! vibes. (A movie which also had many Milwaukee-LA ties.)
LMMFAO
@@Elguapodelfuego Only 2 times
Im looking forward to the next video you do, you have a good commentator's voice lol Keep it up !!!!!
New favourite channel
Milwaukee is still one of the most segregated city in America, so just imagine was it was like in the 60's 70's
It wasn't about the team why he left, it was the city and state
The segregation index measures the entire metro, not just the city proper.
A lot of Milwaukee's older neighborhoods developed along ethnic lines, but in over 20 years of living there I can't say I ever had to look very hard to find a mixed crowd.
However, the suburban counties are very white, very geriatric, and tend to be very racist.
@@KnightBoat Nice spin on manufactured (read: REDLINING) racial segregation from the racist white trash that controlled and (continues to control) Milwaukee, but go ahead.
Who came back to this video after Giannis possibly leaving?
Milwaukee waited for Giannis for another Title
Being patient vs the lakers being greedy.
17 vs 2 I'm sorry but yeah
The basketball gods gifted Milwaukee with Giannis
@@G-TV_TheOneManArmy 2 that hold lots of weight compared to always having superteams built from money and location
@@xanderc1225 I can give you a good 9 rings where the right teams won 80s showtime lakers won and Shaq and Kobe Lakers won 1 ring (I assume it's lebron James) doesn''t count because he's synonymous with superteams but I still don't count the 2020 Lakers a super team but that's me
Your Channel is gonna boom, glad I found it early. I’m officially one of the first 1k subs
keep posting i loved this video!!
Kareem is my fellow jazzhead!
Great Video
Oh yeah this is going places
Nice video to help understand him
What do you call it when a team trades or cuts a player. Do we say the team abandoned a player.
This article worked very hard to stay clear of the hard truth even avoiding any reference to his race and the Black culture.. His requesting a trade had everything to do with Milwaukee being a overwhelmingly white city figuratively and culturally. Kareem was a sophisticated Black Muslim male who needed to be amongst more people like him.
Not even considered a top 3 laker to most fans. Shows how much the city appreciated his greatness
Why would he be considered a top 3 laker..? He was a Buck & is known as a Buck. That’s where he played best
Kareem is absolutely a top 3 Laker of all time, top 5 at a minimum
Milwaukee was and is RACIST. Heck they recently beat up a Bucks player a few years back if y'all can recall. And simply because he was parked in a wrong spot returning a Redbox movie at Walgreens. They profiled and when they found out he was a bucks player it was an oops. Then they did pay him quietly.
USA was and is racist
True to his faith. Can't hold that against anyone.
Your ability to get an hour worth of info into 8 min is to be commended 👏
Kareem and the Lakers beating The Celtics in the finals were my introduction into basketball. My Dad would watch the games and of course I would join him, asking questions when something happened that I didn’t understand. I remember my Dad telling me to pay attention to Kareem and his sky hook. For its time it was a thing of beauty! I really am glad I got to watch the Showtime Lakers, then Michael and Da Bulls (the only time I “cheated” on The Lakers ha ha!), and of course Kobe. For me, today’s game just isn’t the same. I still watch, don’t get me wrong, but it just doesn’t have the same vibe as it used to for whatever reason. Again, that’s just ME and MY OPINION! I don’t expect anybody to agree. If you do, cool. If not, I’m actually glad you either just started watching like I did all those years ago, or you still love the game as it’s played today!
FACTS
May i have some more videos sir...💯👌🙏
Can’t blame him for wanting to work and live in a place that he was more comfortable!!!!
And he didn't pull the shenanigans that a lot of guys do. Like a Harden, for instance. Or Kyrie. He didn't fake injuries or whine and sit out for no reason.
Milwaukee was just.....too white...for Kareem....Him saying that he did not fit in culturally was a nice way of saying this.
You made a mistake. Magic was the 1980 NBA Finals MVP, not Kareem. Kareem was finals MVP in 1971 and 1985. That is actually very impressive - 14 year gap! I really enjoyed the video.
Props to Kareem for doing those. I like the Bucks but understand. If a team can’t win and your doing all you can then go. I still wish Don Nelson would have said ‘yes’ to that Marques Johnson-Jamaal Wilkes trade. Marques would be in the hall!
…? They won a ring lol
As a Bad Boys Pistons fan who hated seeing the phantom foul that robbed a championship, i disliked the manhandling of an old man Kareem on his retirement tour even more. Not that he didn’t bang down low with the best of em, but having to deal with Mahorn pulling the chair or Laimbeer plain stiff as a board straight as an arrow arms and hand in perfect position to defend his hookshot, but having to deal with hardcore boxing out and no cheap layups without being jacked to pieces….
Okay, I didn’t really hate it. I wish he retired earlier.
@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced oh bullshit. They lost. Deal with it!
@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced3. 3 titles.
That was a bad call on Laimbeer😢
Gonna be a great channel
To think that Kareem requested to be traded to either the Lakers or the Knicks is mind boggling. Older Knicks fans can only imagine how dominant the Knicks could have been with Kareem, at his peak, in their lineup.
Great vid!
Bucks ended up getting Brian Winters who became a 2x Allstar with Bucks and Junior Bridgeman great player played 10 years for Bucks and traded other assets from this trade for 2 first round picks. Bucks were an amazing squad in 80's never had a single losing season that decade. I grew up in the 80's and felt betrayed I never got to see Kareem in a Bucks uniform. Thank the good lord Giannis is the superstar the city loves that the superstar loves back.
Had an amazing squad that didn't win SHAT minus Kareem, come on man!! LOL
Lew Alcindor is a legend by any metric and whatever you choose to call him. A very young Kevin Garnett played him in a movie against Earl 'the goat' Manigault.
Kareem shattered all records, except for rebounds. Still a top 5 player. Of All Time.
NO he played Wilt lmao.
Someone please tell me how the Knicks did not land the hometown hero???
They literally interrupted network television to announce this trade.
Oh yeah can't wait for more videos
Had the Bucks let Kareem play out his contract, he would have been a free agent but subject to compensation as per the rules of the time. The Bucks did well to trade him when they did and got a much better return than had they waited until he hit free agency. I remember the Knicks were one of the teams frequently mentioned as a potential landing spot (Kareem was from New York), but they had very little to offer in terms of the young talent the Bucks were seeking. The Lakers actually had players who could help Milwaukee's team.
Typical Knicks, unable to land the big one, with the exception of 33 Patrick Ewing. Other than that our GMs have been terrible for most of our relevancy. I remember we gave u an entire team for Melo and then couldn't achieve more past that since so much already went into merely getting him. Ugh.....We got 2 chips in the 70's but if we would've got Kareem.... 4 to 5 at LEAST...
@@Megachron1-2 Had the Knicks landed Kareem back then, they probably would have resembled a lot of those early Laker teams Kareem played on. That is, one megastar and a bunch of guys who'd have a hard time getting a pickup game after the season.
Remember the 1977 Western finals? The Blazers dominated the Lakers at every position but center. That trade left the Lakers very thin at a number of positions, something that didn't begin to turn until the 1977 draft when the Lakers took Norm Nixon with their first-round pick, and then of course, Magic Johnson in 1979.
Dude, the NBA was almost dead at that time. Games were aired on delay. Grive me a break.
Kareem, wilt and shaq had a similar story of leaving a weaker market and going to a super market in Los Angeles and getting a super team or powerful duo. Shaq got Kobe and glen rice, kareem got magic and worthy, wilt got west and Baylor but Baylor fell apart: I think you can add Dwight, Anthony Davis but Dwight failed with Kobe and Davis and lebron won a ring. These super teams and leaving franchises isn’t new.
Kareem had a very huge ego to fill back then
@@Youralwayswhining4367 that ego was deserved. He earned that right
Magic didn't arrive in LA until 79 and Worthy was in 82. Kareem didn't leave to create a super team. The Laker team he went to had a 30-52 record prior to his arrival. You can disparage him leaving Milwaukee but it's false to accuse him of leaving to create a super team or team up with some other super player already on the Lakers.
Glen Rice wasn't there until 1999 Kobe was a rookie bench player
@@melvynsngltn27 facts he reached with rice
Heavy.
New York Knicks missed out when they passed on a trade for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Peace to Gil Scott
What is that jazz song ?
I am from Milwaukee and don't blame him for leaving. However, I do kind of blame the Bucks for bringing him back to Milwaukee a few years ago for events and to help promote the team. It's like dude you didn't like it here and couldn't wait to be traded don't act like you have so much love for the city now. It was so phony.
I acknowledge you.
A great Man! An original
The Big Guy won a title and leaves. At least he got a title. Kareem with the Bucks is like Napoleon on Italy if the stories ends there will already be a great history
More plz
I wanna see a video on how the Lakers landed Mikan, because the story itself is fucking wild.
I hope the bucks don't lose Giannis in a similar way. Media and fans in Wisconsin have a tendency to annoy our stars
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Interesting that at the end of it all it was Junior Bridgeman whose the richest of all these men... probably richer then them all combined.
The former Lew Alcindor is already a proven commodity entering the NBA, a generational talent.
And inasmuch this feature gives a clear reason why he left the Bucks, there are eventual talents who stayed amidst the city's atmosphere and culture.
And for this, I appreciate Michael Jordan. Perhaps he and Chicago complemented each other at the right time and situation. MJ turned a franchise into a viable and respectable commodity and still is quarter a century after playing his final game. MJ was intensely loyal, while the Bulls were so foolish and full of themselves they can redo the glorious era shortly after "The Last Dance."
And there's Tim Duncan. Since his close signing with Orlando (yeah, another what if for the Magic), TD stayed there for good and still his home upon retirement.
Kudos for the Bucks owners and management for keeping the team in Milwaukee.
They lost Kareem in 1975. 23 years later, they traded Dirk Nowitzki on draft night (another what if, the second time). They smarten a bit by keeping Giannis.
That makes sense, Totally understand that, Kareem leaving Milwaukee.
Not one of the greatest but The Greatest. Check out this man's resume from high school, through college and the N B A. No other player can match it or even come close. Yes, Bron, M J and others were and are great but Kareem is the greatest of them all - A basketball fan, not a personality fan, from the beautiful, tranquil Islands of The Bahamas 🏝️🌅🏖️🇧🇸. Peace, love, life and blessings ❤️🙏
Wilt is and will always be the goat
Honestly who doesn't want out of Wisconsin in the winter lol
So when a team cuts a player, do we say that team abandoned the player
Thank You! They need to quit with that double standard and slick terminology mess when it comes to trades and cuts.
Took us 50 years to get another one, but I don't begrudge Kareem for leaving. He had to do right by himself and Milwaukee wasn't right for him at the time.
The Lakers have a long list of present and future Hall of Famers they didn't draft:
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Shaquille O'Neal
Steve Nash
Kobe Bryant (traded from Charlotte)
LeBron James
Carmelo Anthony
Anthony Davis
Dwight Howard
Karl Malone
Gary Payton
The Suns also have an extensive list of this nature:
Dennis Johnson
Charles Barkley
Shaquille O'Neal
Chris Paul
Grant Hill
Jason Kidd
I apologize for any I've left out, but here's my point: What is it about these two markets that's so attractive to some of the best players of all time? I am just a little surprised there's no videos like that here, at least that I can find. The fact that the Lakers have 17 titles while the Suns have none is secondary as far as I can tell. I'm not a diehard fan of either of these teams btw.
*17 Titles
(+30 Year LA Lakers Fan)
@Fabrizzio Joaquin Monsalve Salcedo I don't think you read my comment close enough. The Lakers did draft those guys in Minneapolis. I made a list of those guys they DIDN'T draft.
@@martinjkrumm8764 well most of those guys you names won’t be put in the HOF as Lakers but for other teams. They just happened to play for the Lakers at one point trying to win a ring
The LA Lakers are basically the New York Yankees of Basketball 🏀. Every NBA Player or Future player all want to be a Laker just like Every Baseball player wants to be a Yankee at some point in their career. That and the LA Lakers are one of the most Valuable Sports Teams in North America alongside the Dallas Cowboys 🏈, New York Yankees ⚾️, Toronto Mable Leafs 🏒, New York City FC & LA Galaxy ⚽️. By playing as a Laker you are also playing in the footsteps of some of the NBA’s Greats, LeBron James, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, Gary Payton, Dwight Howard, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq, Kobe Bryant, Magic Johnson etc, same is true with Being in the New York Yankees as you are in the footsteps of MLB greats like Yogi Berra, Babe Ruth, Derek Jeter, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Mariano Rivera, Reggie Jackson etc.
@FabrizzioJoaquinMonsalveSalced I am Redskins (Commanders) fan I hate the Cowboys. By the way in Liberal Washington DC I get to a lot of compliments while wearing Redskins hats. Also Dallas Cowboy fans are everywhere because of a brilliant marketing campaign as America’s team 🇺🇸 back in the 1970s and it’s so annoying. That and the Cowboys won 5 SuperBowels, yes there are better teams like the NE Patriots, Pittsburgh Stealers, SF 49ers, etc. but the Cowboys have money, brilliant marketing & the Cheerleaders 📣🔥🔥😍😍
Was that supposed to be AI Kareem at @5:56? 😂
When Kareem on the thumbnail looks like Danny Green 🤣
The way he was treated by the league and Wisconsin he should have left
to be COMPLETELY honest i did do and/or PROBABLY will SOMEWHAT like the bucks because i did do and/or PROBABLY will really LOVE legend kareem abdul-jabbar
As a Wisconsinite I think we failed Kareem from an off-the-court perspective. There was not a lot of tolerance for Muslims in the 1970s unfortunately.
The interrupted Carson to announce the trade to the Lakers. Wow.
Why are you talking in .75 speed
Weird seeing young Marv Albert 😂😂😂
Facts lol
Imagine living in Wisconsin as a Muslim in 1974! Poor guy
the edits tough!
Kareem never wanted to play for Milwaukie he hated the weather and playing in the city he was from New York and played in Los Angeles at UCLA and the main reason was he was a Muslim in a city where their weren't many.
Kareem famous is Los Angeles Lakers than Milwaukee
I was inspire on his story but I respect his decision moving in Los Angeles or New York were his comfable.
No not true. He's more of new yorker.
I wonder if Kareem knew about the history of the Arab slave trade before he converted?
Arab slave trade was not in the USA, so what is your point?
All he needs to know is the Christian slave trade.
Bet you feel pretty stupid right now...
Lew Alcindor was a Milwaukee Buck. Kareem Abdul Jabar was a Laker.
He changed his name in LA because Milwaukee would have bomb his house...
He wanted to do movies and all that sh*t
By a huge margin, MIL was the most successful franchise ‘70-‘74. 5 yrs at 74%. 4 Conference Finals. 2 Finals. 78-18 Championship season. “Abandoned a franchise.” Terrible title.
But he did abandon them. Even after they tried every possible avenue to give him what he wanted.
@@TheCman183 Kareem wanted to live somewhere else. 6 years. See above levels of success. That franchise largely owed their huge success to one man: Cap. Word-choice-wise, “abandon” is unfair.
The Bucks went after the Knicks first offering Kareem. Why would the Knicks say no to a potential superstar is still beyond me. So when the Bucks came to Los Angeles offering Kareem, Jack Kent Cooke jumped at the chance offering Brian Winters and numerous draft picks the Bucks used to get Marques Johnson and Junior Bridgeman. Before Magic Johnson came to town, Kareem was the glue that kept the Lakers going.
The Knicks had a chance to secure Julius "Dr. J" Erving" too before the Philadelphia 76ers obtained him. Other than the NY Knicks glory years from the early 1970's, NY Knicks management has not been as successful on obtaining top level players.
Besides L.A where he went to college and New York where he grew up, he shoukd have came here to the Baltimore/Washington area
It's cool that back in the day they let you wear jewelry during the game.
Mr Abdul Jabbar has been a man of integrity from the beginning. One of a kind!
So much integrity that he looks down on half the population because they politically supported someone or someones he doesn’t like. He’s an arrogant ass and only deserves praise for his on-the-court actions and noting else.
Wow, look at young Marv Albert? Who knew THAT guy once existed? Dude's as old as Methuselah.
Kareem was chasing bright lights/ and fame thought he was some kinda actor.
Young Kareem looks like Gianni's A the other M Bucks superstar 🤯🤯
Poor baby, doesn't have family or friends in Milwaukee; just breaks my little heart---
translation - I am a white male.
@@RK-um9tu Yep!! I'd love to drop that RACIST into the heart of Lagos, Nigeria or Accra, Ghana and see how he responds to living there...LOLZ.
@@RK-um9tu Translation I am a man who takes responsibility for my actions and does not blame others for my failures.
He hated the east coast he left the east and literally never came back. Never showed New York no love where he was born and raised. Hell of a basketball player but never likes how he abandoned the east like that.
How did he abandon the East? The man lived his adult life out.
He played in LA for so long it only makes sense to buy a house and live there. I read he’s in Harlem from time to time for speaking engagements
Don’t worry folks, Giannis won’t be too far away from doing the same exact thing soon
This trade didn’t stop there, many many years later, Dirk Nowitzki was traded from Milwaukee to Dallas for the rights to some guy name tractor trailer
The dirk trade was stupid but Giannis doesn’t want to leave. It’s not about clout chasing for him. It’s the family oriented organization that is the bucks
Lol giannis? Why would he leave? To go where?
@@xanderc1225 Cocaine is a helluva drug.
He didn't leave the Bucks. They left him when they forced Oscar Robertson to retire in 1974.
Maybe one day some people will write how Durant, Kyrie, Harden abandoned multiple franchises. LeBron, too.
The Fonze and Richie and Laverne and Shirley loved Milwaukee.