UPDATE: Some of you asked why not just use a Bluetooth transmitter? I tested them last year and they had too much latency for live monitoring. You hear the person talking bleeding through your headphones, and then a split-second later the headphones repeat the sound, and it drives you absolutely insane. Thus, I settled on this Rode Go configuration because it doesn't have any perceptible latency. HOWEVER, a commenter pointed out that Qualcom released their AptX chipset in the past year that promises lower latency. I've ordered a bunch of hardware that claims compatibilty to see if any of it is acceptable for live monitoring and i'll publish an updated review soon.
@Tony & Chelsea Northrop I have been using the Roland R-07 for audio recording and I use the Bluetooth feature to monitor my audio and never had an issue.
Eagerly awaiting updated reviews! I'm a big fan, Tony and Chelsea! Keep up the great work! I wonder if you might say a few words about inputting line level headphone outputs to the camera mic jack - like from a Zoom audio recorder. I had to get a 3.5mm 35dB attenuation cable to make the connection from my Zoom F1 to my A6500. While a vast improvement, I was still left with a low buzz on the camera recording. Still have to sync up the external recording to the video in post to get high quality audio. I've never seen any reviewer mention this problem.
I was hoping you were going to show a video on how to hack a camera that doesn't have a head phone jack. I guess the hack for that is give canon more money for a more expensive camera.
Creating videos is damn difficult. Especially when one does everything on their own. Your videos are super helpful. Ignore the haters. Also this is a great hack for the wireless go. Thank you and all the best.
as an 20 year audio engineer i say invest in Izotope Rx. it is literally able to remove a 18 wheeler passing by u on the sidewalk with no negative effects. The best Audio restoration tools out currently.
And for me .... that is what makes your videos so much better than the rest. Human mistakes are part of living in a real world not an edited world were everything seems to be perfect when it is not.
I do wonder if it has similar industry reasons as to why car infotainment is so primitive, even when using Android auto. (No experience with Apple Car Play)
This is a problem I had for so long until I did the same thing with the older rode wireless packs. I too thought it would be a no brainer to implement into cameras, but it's actually more difficult than you would think. Bluetooth headphones usually have around 500ms of delay. If you are watching a TH-cam video, that is not an issue since the video can just be offset to compensate. Whenever you do this to monitor in real time, it is very noticeable. The first thing I tried was a Bluetooth dongle into the camera, but it was very jarring to be hearing everything that was happening with a delay and things not syncing up on camera. The only way this works (with the current Bluetooth standard) is to do it over 2.4GHz like what you did. This works since the latency is only around 6ms which is about 1/10 of a frame. And while many cameras do have the capability to transmit 2.4GHz, all of the headphones people use are Bluetooth. So it would still require some headphone adapter / hacky workaround which is why none of the camera manufactures have done it.
Bloody Genius Tony 🙂 The amount of times Ive been recording live events and walked away form the camera with headphones on and nearly pulled the whole rig over..... Definitely going to use this hack.
Tony: Clever DIY solution here. Agree there should be a wireless recording/monitor solution built into cameras of this class. You should be able to pair bluetooth headphones (or headset) to the camera for monitoring at the very least, and for those that wish to (not me), even use the mic on them to record.
Brilliant! Though, if you use up the microphone jack for the transmitter then you need a main microphone that can use the hot shoe, or use the camera internal microphone? Can you use a splitter of some sort?
I actually had a fortune cookie today that read, "It takes less time to do something right than it takes to explain why you did it wrong in the first place." I feel this video exemplifies that thought perfectly.
This is such a good point you make about why nobody has built that into their cameras yet. Seams so obvious and would probably be easy points to that manufacturer for being the first to implement. Really strange it hasn't been done yet. Anyway, awesome hack! Gives the Wireless Go even more use.
Tony shows up to do the interview, sets up his wireless headphone hack to perfection and discovers he only has ONE wireless lav kit in his bag...."DOH!!!!" :D
Dude... I had a feeling the idiots in the last video complaining about the audio were gonna provoke this kind of reaction. You guys pump out quality videos.
At fist I thought you were pissed off. Which I understand. But you provide such a great service. I’d imagine 99% of your comments are positive. Keep up the great work!!
Oh my gosh Tony, you have one of the best channels on TH-cam. It would be nice if everything was perfect but that would be unrealistic. You're not making a Hollywood movie. You guys always have great advice and great entertainment value. Glad you guys are out there.
I just messed a client’s video because my rode mic didn’t link. I had to refund him $300 for my mistake. He’s a national speaker. I feel so embarrassed right now. Thanks for this Tony
Great hack Tony, this is why there is not the perfect vlogging camera. As soon as you need to add something, it then becames more of a hassle, why a the phone becomes the go to camera. Manufacturers need to have good wind quality mics built in, with Bluetooth headphones etc, this makes the camera one integrated item like a phone. Yes you still need to download and upload, but on site, it is a convenient as a phone with far better quality.
I use similar solution, but I can actually use my AirPods for monitoring, it is called airfly made by a company called twelve south, you can get one with a 3.5mm Jack or a usbc input. Not ideal, but it eliminates the need for any wired headphones.
Tony & Chelsea Northrup I have the airfly pro version and it works wonderfully, I haven’t noticed lagging, usually I put it on my a7r4 and it works fine.
100% agree!!! It's RIDICULOUS, that xxxx€ cameras in 2020 do not have stuff like: - Wireless Sound - GPS - proper Touch menues - proper menues in general (with more customization, making unlimited own presets, naming them and putting them on buttons, being able to adjust color curves, etc.) - HEIF/HEIC instead of just JPG and RAW - in-camera-stacking for virtual-ND and HDR (WITH RAW-support) - proper panorama stitching - USB-Powering + Charging + native Webcam mode - etc. It's like none of those companies have any motivation to actually improve their products. ALL current cameras have so many big flaws. Obvious flaws. And easy to fix flaws. But somehow they manage to overlook those collectively. Sometimes they even release bodies without USB-C!!! WTF?!
why i only see this video of just now!?..this a big help for me because as you said being person is suck!..because i always forget to turn on my mic on my cam..big thanks to you..🙏🏽
Quite nice, Jedi apprentice, balancing rocks while doing a one-armed hand stand. Now you must return to Dagobah to complete your training and return with a voice-controlled camera that can change settings and controls from a wireless remote voice. Making a light saber was elementary; making a camera -- that only a master can do.
I'm listening on Bose QC! They are for sure my favorites. BTW, you're too old to be the sound guy. Tom Scott did a video and uploaded it. It had a 16 kHz squeal on it that was louder than the voice. He couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear it. All the viewers under 20 years old complained.
I noticed the audio issue on the video but I just blew it off figuring you had a bad enough day with dealing with whatever you had to deal with that you didn't need another Captain Obvious pointing out the audio issues. Nice trick you've come up with.
I feel your pain. I gave up monitoring audio for that reason. Unless something breaks it us usually fine... but typically something breaks when it costs too much to re-shoot!
This seems a bit complicated and expensive to me. Why not just use a small bluetooth transmitter and your beloved airpods? These things are small, light and cost around 20 USD. It takes the signal from the headphonejack and makes it a bluetoothsignal that can be picked up by any bluteooth headphone. Do i miss a point here?
in the past I tested Bluetooth transmitters and they had too much latency. I just ordered 3 new models advertising low latency so I'll see if any are acceptable... But latency in the real world is unbearable.
@@TonyAndChelsea ok i get your point. I'm working with a transmitter from Elegiant and it works fine for me, but i just check the sound first and then take my headphones out for the shot. So latency is no problem for me so far and nothing i realized. Looking forward for your results. Keep up your great work.
Great trick! I've tried with my Rode Link and it works! Obviously not as practical as with the Rode Wireless Go as it's quite bulkier but in the meantime it does the job! Thanks a lot!
Tony -- are you sure this is entirely safe? I'm just thinking of the fact that a headphone output is technically a "power" output, e.g. expecting a certain impedance and delivering some power (albeit very small for most headphones) -- the concern would be that it might hurt the transmitter (if not the Rode then maybe a different brand.) The other issue would be if the Rode (or other brand) is supplying PiP on the mic jack, it might mess with the circuitry in the camera in a weird or bad way. It might all be nothing to worry about, I'm not sure, but worth checking in to? Or is the "mic" input on the Rode actually more of a "line level" input which traditionally can be interoperated with headphone outputs?
Why not Bluetooth? Actual latency. Typically 120ms+, will depend on the implementation. APT-X Low Latency can get lower (still very high compared to your hack) but almost no headphones support it. That might happen with Bluetooth Low Energy audio in a couple years, with better latency profiles, but today latency is entirely the issue. In the meantime, your hack is by far the best solution! Brilliant
Thank you for the tip. I'll try on my wireless go. I agree. My Sony has built in Bluetooth for tripod remote, so why not have Bluetooth for audio out? I don't think it'll take much space or eats up much battery. BTW, what camera was used to record this video? It seems to be in/out of focus, exposure changes, and white film like banning on the screen....
Hi Tony, brilliant idea. I was looking at using something like that but connecting to my Olympus LS P4. On another note, why don't you stick the Rode on the hot shoe and then stick the other cold shoe on top of the Rode. Then you can stick you mike on that, resulting in nothing permanently stuck to your camera.
Cool idea. At the age of 78, I started wearing hearing aids a year ago and they are blue tooth capable (great for streaming music). So Tony's idea have having cameras that can output the sound monitoring output to blue tooth would very convenient.
I get a lot of noise in my headphones from the Wireless Go when I do this. The video itself doesn't have that noise, so it sounds like an impedance mismatch. Any problems like that?
This is very helpful! I don't suppose you have a solution for using the Rode as intended while still monitoring the audio? Trying to solve that currently. I would love to use airpods kind of like you mentioned just connected to the Rode receiver but not sure I have seen that as an option.
Thanks for the idea. I may be able to go one better ... I am very hearing impaired and rely on a system that links my Phonak hearing aids to a Phonak bluetooth receiver/controller (via an FM loop I always wear under my shirt). I am using this system to be able to listen to the audio of the computer right now. I may be able to link the bluetooth receiver to the Wireless Go mic (which I have), thereby even skipping the addition of using the second Wireless Go unit. I must try this and see if it is possible.
Hi Tony and Chelsea, I Watch all of your videos. I own a Panasonic G100 which you know only has a mic jack plug. can you tell me, is there a way around using your rode wireless connections the way you described in order for me to get around using a set of headphones? (probably not!), but thought I'd ask you anyway. Thanks.
cool hack. Any idea how to connect BT headset including mic to the camera? I use shokz opencomm headset which has boom it is very stable, has subtle noise canceling and decent sound quality. I haven't found anything better for the job (recording yoga session). It is so easy to use with a smartphone camera but I want to upgrade to mirrorless and I am puzzled, why they don't have BT audio device connectivity as standard.
So that's where that toilet sound came from in the previous video... Gosh, I thought my 20-years-of-sound-producing-experience ears are fooling me. Now it makes sense.
Before Tony mentioned this was filmed on the Sony A7SIII, I actually thought this might have been footage from the Panasonic S5 based on the autofocus performance here. This appears to have been filmed maybe a touch too close, but, still, I thought Sony autofocus was better than what I saw here. Nevertheless, this is an excellent hack for the Rode Go system, and thanks for sharing!
there is a small problem with this: similarly to how your wireless mic's signal got plagued by interference your monitor signal can. won't be as bad, sure, but you still need to have a wired headphone available to switch to for monitoring if need be / for double-checking. and yes, there's also the problem of latency, which is better on some devices/solutions, but not that great overall. PS: I'd love to know who produces / where I can find that small audio cable - stuff like this is usually gold for rigging
I noticed the audio in your last video as well, but I figured you probably didn't need anymore annoying comments :) Just curious, did you use Izotope RX8 to fix it?
hello, i ve two questions . what is model your micro canon ? if we connect a Mke600 (that's what I have) to a digital Zoom F2 in this case there is no longer any need to check the sound? thanks
If you plan on using this method very often though. I would go with something like the Bubblebee Sidekick so it be much easier to hide your headphone while you are on camera. Their not wireless, but if you just add the airpods in your ears then everybody will also fuss about why your wearing earbuds or headphones.
So I can’t use my Sony m3 Bluetooth wireless headphone on the a7r 3?
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i agree 100% wireless audio and video if implemented effordlessly could make work simply faster and more convenient... and working faster is simply more efficient. the budgets are shrinking and working faster but still with great quality is still important
look up Ugreen 40761, it and other small Aux bluetooth Transmitter is way cheaper way to do this, and you can just use your already existing Bluetooth Headphones as well. Its good enough as long as you don't need critical monitoring with 0 delays.
theres a small Bluetooth amp transmitter devices out there bud, just buy them and use your airpod to receive the Bluetooth signal. they're way cheaper than a pair of Rode mic as well. just look at Baseus and Ugreen offering they're like 20usd.
You can do the same with a Bluetooth transmitter and use your Airpods. They make small rechargeable ones that you can pair to. **Edit** Make sure they are aptX or other low latency technology compatible with your receiving device or earbuds.I don't use airpods. I forgot the struggle I had fighting latency until Tony reminded me in the comments.
I had to get a low latency aptX model but now and then your right, I have to reset it because of that. Also, they don't seem to be full frequency but good enough for most. I also used a matched bluetooth transmitter and receiver with wired headphones and the same thing. It worked pretty good but needed reset every once in a while but not terrible. HOMUSPOT is the brand (or maybe its HOMESPOT, logo is weird). I use them on my TVs to my stereo audio switcher as well and lips stay syncd most of the time. I like your setup better for someone not penny pinching and want better quality.
I was wondering too what's going on with the sound but not to the point to think about it much. I feel sory for the nasty comments that you got. There will be a lot of envy in the air which would manifest in nasty comments. Maybe whenever you have problem with the footage, just make an in-video comment that describes the issue. This will hopefully reduce the "nastymeter" in the comments. Love your work. As always, thumb's up from me. :-)
UPDATE: Some of you asked why not just use a Bluetooth transmitter? I tested them last year and they had too much latency for live monitoring. You hear the person talking bleeding through your headphones, and then a split-second later the headphones repeat the sound, and it drives you absolutely insane. Thus, I settled on this Rode Go configuration because it doesn't have any perceptible latency. HOWEVER, a commenter pointed out that Qualcom released their AptX chipset in the past year that promises lower latency. I've ordered a bunch of hardware that claims compatibilty to see if any of it is acceptable for live monitoring and i'll publish an updated review soon.
That was my initial thought, too. Looking forward to this AptX review! Thanks, Tony (and Chelsea)
@Tony & Chelsea Northrop I have been using the Roland R-07 for audio recording and I use the Bluetooth feature to monitor my audio and never had an issue.
Eagerly awaiting updated reviews! I'm a big fan, Tony and Chelsea! Keep up the great work! I wonder if you might say a few words about inputting line level headphone outputs to the camera mic jack - like from a Zoom audio recorder. I had to get a 3.5mm 35dB attenuation cable to make the connection from my Zoom F1 to my A6500. While a vast improvement, I was still left with a low buzz on the camera recording. Still have to sync up the external recording to the video in post to get high quality audio. I've never seen any reviewer mention this problem.
I was hoping you were going to show a video on how to hack a camera that doesn't have a head phone jack. I guess the hack for that is give canon more money for a more expensive camera.
Creating videos is damn difficult. Especially when one does everything on their own. Your videos are super helpful. Ignore the haters.
Also this is a great hack for the wireless go. Thank you and all the best.
Brilliant hack! I didn’t know about those sticky cold shoes either. I’ve been using cages to get more mounting points. Thanks!
Looking at 5:03 the adhesive itself is 3M VHB which is *amazing* stuff
A bluetooth transmitter can also work, though the mounting won't be as clean.
The 'Wilhelm Scream' a classic for over 40 years. Tony, you are the best.
I never miss an opportunity
Once you hear it, and watch one of those Wilhelm compilation vids, you'll never UNHEAR it. People keep sticking it in films, even today.
I was wondering why that video sounded weird. You did a good job cleaning it up.
as an 20 year audio engineer i say invest in Izotope Rx. it is literally able to remove a 18 wheeler passing by u on the sidewalk with no negative effects. The best Audio restoration tools out currently.
TONY IS HUMAN! 🤖
Thank you for the verification Chelsea. Love your work!
😍
I think you are biased
And for me .... that is what makes your videos so much better than the rest. Human mistakes are part of living in a real world not an edited world were everything seems to be perfect when it is not.
Tonybot is trying too hard to convince us of this
This is clever Tony (and Chelsea). This is my first comment to you, but I have consumed hours of your content. Thank you for everything.
Thank you!
you can just buy a small Bluetooth Transmitter than doing this expensive hack.
use your already existing Bluetooth Headphones as well.
Love the fact that you just made a new video out of the quality issue from the last one! Best way to handle it, and great example!
It's ridiculous how primitive these 4 thousand dollar cameras can be in certain areas compared to even the cheapest smartphones out there..
A smartphone's main purpose in life is audio transmission, so I would hope the get that part right.
I do wonder if it has similar industry reasons as to why car infotainment is so primitive, even when using Android auto. (No experience with Apple Car Play)
That's sometimes that consumer camera manifacturer should keep in mind before the market collapses
Well it is 3,5 thousand and that is a cheap entry price point for the professional video market.
That camera is $5000 here and it's only 12 MP!
Hmmmmm... Only a nonhuman would repeat that "i'm human". Also you have an "evil plan".
🤔 *watches video suspiciously
This is a problem I had for so long until I did the same thing with the older rode wireless packs. I too thought it would be a no brainer to implement into cameras, but it's actually more difficult than you would think. Bluetooth headphones usually have around 500ms of delay. If you are watching a TH-cam video, that is not an issue since the video can just be offset to compensate. Whenever you do this to monitor in real time, it is very noticeable. The first thing I tried was a Bluetooth dongle into the camera, but it was very jarring to be hearing everything that was happening with a delay and things not syncing up on camera. The only way this works (with the current Bluetooth standard) is to do it over 2.4GHz like what you did. This works since the latency is only around 6ms which is about 1/10 of a frame. And while many cameras do have the capability to transmit 2.4GHz, all of the headphones people use are Bluetooth. So it would still require some headphone adapter / hacky workaround which is why none of the camera manufactures have done it.
Bloody Genius Tony 🙂 The amount of times Ive been recording live events and walked away form the camera with headphones on and nearly pulled the whole rig over..... Definitely going to use this hack.
Tony: Clever DIY solution here. Agree there should be a wireless recording/monitor solution built into cameras of this class. You should be able to pair bluetooth headphones (or headset) to the camera for monitoring at the very least, and for those that wish to (not me), even use the mic on them to record.
That little sticky cold shoe was the real hack! Awesome!
Brilliant! Though, if you use up the microphone jack for the transmitter then you need a main microphone that can use the hot shoe, or use the camera internal microphone? Can you use a splitter of some sort?
I'm surprised people haven't been claiming that it's conspiracy
I actually had a fortune cookie today that read, "It takes less time to do something right than it takes to explain why you did it wrong in the first place." I feel this video exemplifies that thought perfectly.
This is such a good point you make about why nobody has built that into their cameras yet. Seams so obvious and would probably be easy points to that manufacturer for being the first to implement. Really strange it hasn't been done yet. Anyway, awesome hack! Gives the Wireless Go even more use.
Tony shows up to do the interview, sets up his wireless headphone hack to perfection and discovers he only has ONE wireless lav kit in his bag...."DOH!!!!" :D
Dude... I had a feeling the idiots in the last video complaining about the audio were gonna provoke this kind of reaction.
You guys pump out quality videos.
At fist I thought you were pissed off. Which I understand. But you provide such a great service. I’d imagine 99% of your comments are positive. Keep up the great work!!
Damn... That's satisfyingly simple and inexpensive...and I'm sure that was your intent. Good job, Tone-zone.
Omg perfect timing! I really really REALLY needed this hack. Thanks! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Im guilty some time I expect your videos to be perfect and we all make mistake is not like I'm paying for your videos. So thanks for the content
This is amazing!! I needed wireless headphones for the cam and now I have to go test mine out with my ride
Oh my gosh Tony, you have one of the best channels on TH-cam. It would be nice if everything was perfect but that would be unrealistic. You're not making a Hollywood movie. You guys always have great advice and great entertainment value. Glad you guys are out there.
Excellent tips. And your sound is always totally fine!
I just messed a client’s video because my rode mic didn’t link. I had to refund him $300 for my mistake. He’s a national speaker. I feel so embarrassed right now. Thanks for this Tony
Great hack Tony, this is why there is not the perfect vlogging camera. As soon as you need to add something, it then becames more of a hassle, why a the phone becomes the go to camera. Manufacturers need to have good wind quality mics built in, with Bluetooth headphones etc, this makes the camera one integrated item like a phone. Yes you still need to download and upload, but on site, it is a convenient as a phone with far better quality.
I use similar solution, but I can actually use my AirPods for monitoring, it is called airfly made by a company called twelve south, you can get one with a 3.5mm Jack or a usbc input. Not ideal, but it eliminates the need for any wired headphones.
does it work with real-time monitoring? When I've used Bluetooth adapters in the past, they had too much latency to listen in real-time.
Tony & Chelsea Northrup I have the airfly pro version and it works wonderfully, I haven’t noticed lagging, usually I put it on my a7r4 and it works fine.
100% agree!!!
It's RIDICULOUS, that xxxx€ cameras in 2020 do not have stuff like:
- Wireless Sound
- GPS
- proper Touch menues
- proper menues in general (with more customization, making unlimited own presets, naming them and putting them on buttons, being able to adjust color curves, etc.)
- HEIF/HEIC instead of just JPG and RAW
- in-camera-stacking for virtual-ND and HDR (WITH RAW-support)
- proper panorama stitching
- USB-Powering + Charging + native Webcam mode
- etc.
It's like none of those companies have any motivation to actually improve their products.
ALL current cameras have so many big flaws. Obvious flaws. And easy to fix flaws. But somehow they manage to overlook those collectively.
Sometimes they even release bodies without USB-C!!! WTF?!
why i only see this video of just now!?..this a big help for me because as you said being person is suck!..because i always forget to turn on my mic on my cam..big thanks to you..🙏🏽
Quite nice, Jedi apprentice, balancing rocks while doing a one-armed hand stand. Now you must return to Dagobah to complete your training and return with a voice-controlled camera that can change settings and controls from a wireless remote voice. Making a light saber was elementary; making a camera -- that only a master can do.
Whoa. I've never had to edit sound before, but I'm impressed with the salvage job! No idea how you did that haha
Wow! This is a fantastic idea thanks for sharing Tony!
I'm listening on Bose QC! They are for sure my favorites.
BTW, you're too old to be the sound guy. Tom Scott did a video and uploaded it. It had a 16 kHz squeal on it that was louder than the voice. He couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear it. All the viewers under 20 years old complained.
Lol I've had this happen
You truly are the MAN Tony 👍🥰👍 please do more of these!
I noticed the audio issue on the video but I just blew it off figuring you had a bad enough day with dealing with whatever you had to deal with that you didn't need another Captain Obvious pointing out the audio issues.
Nice trick you've come up with.
2:32 tony level: MAXIMUM
I feel your pain. I gave up monitoring audio for that reason. Unless something breaks it us usually fine... but typically something breaks when it costs too much to re-shoot!
Great hack Tony, thanks for sharing! Quality of your videos and work is what's making us to coming back 😁👌🏻
Can you connect this to a wireless headphones for example airpods ?
there’s a transmitter (smaller than wireless go) that works with AirPods. Haven’t tried them but they exist if you wanna look into it. Great video
And which one is it?
Unfortunately there haven’t been any Bluetooth based transmitters that have been shown to not have too much delay to be useful
Love it great hack. Monitoring audio seems like a nightmare without this.
This seems a bit complicated and expensive to me. Why not just use a small bluetooth transmitter and your beloved airpods? These things are small, light and cost around 20 USD. It takes the signal from the headphonejack and makes it a bluetoothsignal that can be picked up by any bluteooth headphone. Do i miss a point here?
in the past I tested Bluetooth transmitters and they had too much latency. I just ordered 3 new models advertising low latency so I'll see if any are acceptable... But latency in the real world is unbearable.
@@TonyAndChelsea ok i get your point. I'm working with a transmitter from Elegiant and it works fine for me, but i just check the sound first and then take my headphones out for the shot. So latency is no problem for me so far and nothing i realized. Looking forward for your results. Keep up your great work.
Great trick! I've tried with my Rode Link and it works! Obviously not as practical as with the Rode Wireless Go as it's quite bulkier but in the meantime it does the job! Thanks a lot!
GJ Tony, loving the hack!
Great tip Tony! I’ll experiment tomorrow.👍🏾
Tony -- are you sure this is entirely safe? I'm just thinking of the fact that a headphone output is technically a "power" output, e.g. expecting a certain impedance and delivering some power (albeit very small for most headphones) -- the concern would be that it might hurt the transmitter (if not the Rode then maybe a different brand.) The other issue would be if the Rode (or other brand) is supplying PiP on the mic jack, it might mess with the circuitry in the camera in a weird or bad way. It might all be nothing to worry about, I'm not sure, but worth checking in to? Or is the "mic" input on the Rode actually more of a "line level" input which traditionally can be interoperated with headphone outputs?
Why not Bluetooth? Actual latency.
Typically 120ms+, will depend on the implementation. APT-X Low Latency can get lower (still very high compared to your hack) but almost no headphones support it.
That might happen with Bluetooth Low Energy audio in a couple years, with better latency profiles, but today latency is entirely the issue.
In the meantime, your hack is by far the best solution! Brilliant
Thank you for the tip. I'll try on my wireless go. I agree. My Sony has built in Bluetooth for tripod remote, so why not have Bluetooth for audio out? I don't think it'll take much space or eats up much battery. BTW, what camera was used to record this video? It seems to be in/out of focus, exposure changes, and white film like banning on the screen....
Hi Tony, brilliant idea. I was looking at using something like that but connecting to my Olympus LS P4.
On another note, why don't you stick the Rode on the hot shoe and then stick the other cold shoe on top of the Rode. Then you can stick you mike on that, resulting in nothing permanently stuck to your camera.
Cool idea. At the age of 78, I started wearing hearing aids a year ago and they are blue tooth capable (great for streaming music). So Tony's idea have having cameras that can output the sound monitoring output to blue tooth would very convenient.
I get a lot of noise in my headphones from the Wireless Go when I do this. The video itself doesn't have that noise, so it sounds like an impedance mismatch. Any problems like that?
Maybe the volume is too loud?
This is very helpful! I don't suppose you have a solution for using the Rode as intended while still monitoring the audio? Trying to solve that currently. I would love to use airpods kind of like you mentioned just connected to the Rode receiver but not sure I have seen that as an option.
Thanks for the idea. I may be able to go one better ... I am very hearing impaired and rely on a system that links my Phonak hearing aids to a Phonak bluetooth receiver/controller (via an FM loop I always wear under my shirt). I am using this system to be able to listen to the audio of the computer right now. I may be able to link the bluetooth receiver to the Wireless Go mic (which I have), thereby even skipping the addition of using the second Wireless Go unit. I must try this and see if it is possible.
Interesting. It doesn't add too much latency? BT transmitters I've tested were too slow.
Tnx for shay, pls tell us if it works.
Yes it works but only for mono/right channel. I mostly record two inputs (left/right) and then you will only be able to hear the right channel.
Hi Tony and Chelsea, I Watch all of your videos. I own a Panasonic G100 which you know only has a mic jack plug. can you tell me, is there a way around using your rode wireless connections the way you described in order for me to get around using a set of headphones? (probably not!), but thought I'd ask you anyway. Thanks.
Would it work if you used a cheap bluetooth transmitter (about £5) and use your wireless earbuds?
I wish Bluetooth monitoring was a thing! This is definitely a great hack for the time being.
And/or bluetooth mic using your already existing airpods
This is brilliant! Love it! Going to do it myself.
You should sync up with Caleb Pike. He's got tons of hacks like this
In fact he’s already done this one.
cool hack. Any idea how to connect BT headset including mic to the camera? I use shokz opencomm headset which has boom it is very stable, has subtle noise canceling and decent sound quality. I haven't found anything better for the job (recording yoga session). It is so easy to use with a smartphone camera but I want to upgrade to mirrorless and I am puzzled, why they don't have BT audio device connectivity as standard.
Seems like you almost said this - the camera has bluetooth, why doesn't it just support a bluetooth headphone/mic or even the Airpods?
Very clever hack! Love it. Thanks for the info!
damn.. that is quite clever Tony :D
So that's where that toilet sound came from in the previous video... Gosh, I thought my 20-years-of-sound-producing-experience ears are fooling me. Now it makes sense.
Thank you for this ingenious solution.
umm, wouldn't be easier to use a bluetooth transmitter like, Twelve South AirFly?
It kind of bugs me how these super expensive cameras don’t have Bluetooth pairing for something like this.
Before Tony mentioned this was filmed on the Sony A7SIII, I actually thought this might have been footage from the Panasonic S5 based on the autofocus performance here. This appears to have been filmed maybe a touch too close, but, still, I thought Sony autofocus was better than what I saw here. Nevertheless, this is an excellent hack for the Rode Go system, and thanks for sharing!
there is a small problem with this: similarly to how your wireless mic's signal got plagued by interference your monitor signal can. won't be as bad, sure, but you still need to have a wired headphone available to switch to for monitoring if need be / for double-checking. and yes, there's also the problem of latency, which is better on some devices/solutions, but not that great overall.
PS: I'd love to know who produces / where I can find that small audio cable - stuff like this is usually gold for rigging
Such a great hack! I have those same headphones. They are my favorite.
Totally genius. Will this work with Atomos Ninja V?
This is BRILLIANT. THANK YOU!!
I noticed the audio in your last video as well, but I figured you probably didn't need anymore annoying comments :) Just curious, did you use Izotope RX8 to fix it?
What did you film this on? camera/lens/4kor1080p
hello, i ve two questions .
what is model your micro canon ?
if we connect a Mke600 (that's what I have) to a digital Zoom F2 in this case there is no longer any need to check the sound?
thanks
If you plan on using this method very often though. I would go with something like the Bubblebee Sidekick so it be much easier to hide your headphone while you are on camera. Their not wireless, but if you just add the airpods in your ears then everybody will also fuss about why your wearing earbuds or headphones.
So I can’t use my Sony m3 Bluetooth wireless headphone on the a7r 3?
i agree 100% wireless audio and video if implemented effordlessly could make work simply faster and more convenient... and working faster is simply more efficient. the budgets are shrinking and working faster but still with great quality is still important
Your videos are still awesome, even if not everything is perfect all the time. It's still about being human 😁
Also this is a cool setup man, thanks!
look up Ugreen 40761, it and other small Aux bluetooth Transmitter is way cheaper way to do this, and you can just use your already existing Bluetooth Headphones as well.
Its good enough as long as you don't need critical monitoring with 0 delays.
Well said sir! all camera companies take note - lets get rid of these damn wires in 2020!
Tony: I'm human, and some of you can relate.
Non-human Subs: He's on to us!
All I want is the perfect microphone...
That is FREAKING GENIUS!!!! Thanks!!!
Tony 'Definitely Not a Robot' Northrup, "I'm a human."
theres a small Bluetooth amp transmitter devices out there bud, just buy them and use your airpod to receive the Bluetooth signal.
they're way cheaper than a pair of Rode mic as well.
just look at Baseus and Ugreen offering they're like 20usd.
Hi..
Thx ur information.
God Job👍
Pls share
Wireless Mic products link..
Great tip. Definitely gonna try that
Hi Tony.. How are you and do you mind send me the link about black headphone jet cable , where it come from please. Thanx. G.lam
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0742C82RF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That focus hunting/breathing on the Sony seems pretty bad.
Great video though! Cool idea.
You can do the same with a Bluetooth transmitter and use your Airpods. They make small rechargeable ones that you can pair to. **Edit** Make sure they are aptX or other low latency technology compatible with your receiving device or earbuds.I don't use airpods. I forgot the struggle I had fighting latency until Tony reminded me in the comments.
I tested all the BT transmitters last year and they all had too much latency. Did you find some that work in real time?
I had to get a low latency aptX model but now and then your right, I have to reset it because of that. Also, they don't seem to be full frequency but good enough for most. I also used a matched bluetooth transmitter and receiver with wired headphones and the same thing. It worked pretty good but needed reset every once in a while but not terrible. HOMUSPOT is the brand (or maybe its HOMESPOT, logo is weird). I use them on my TVs to my stereo audio switcher as well and lips stay syncd most of the time. I like your setup better for someone not penny pinching and want better quality.
Please how can I get better sounds on Sony cyber shot mega pixel as a vlogger
ah, these are the videos why i am a subscriber. grrrreat!!
Does anyone know the exact cold shoe he's using?
That was a great hack and am sure it will be useful thanks for the great content
I was wondering too what's going on with the sound but not to the point to think about it much. I feel sory for the nasty comments that you got. There will be a lot of envy in the air which would manifest in nasty comments. Maybe whenever you have problem with the footage, just make an in-video comment that describes the issue. This will hopefully reduce the "nastymeter" in the comments. Love your work. As always, thumb's up from me. :-)