This is pretty much the same machine I'm stationed on right now. Biggest difference is we have the pre feeder and a Kawasaki robot at the end to stack them. Pretty sweet set up. I'm new to the corrugated game. Come to find out making a box is more involved than I thought it was.
I run a 3 color with a d/c s&s large flexo but it blows ass after 11,000 an hour inks starts slinging on box on big prints. Little boxes the slots don't stay still tried to talk the owners into buying an evo flexo but they said 3,000,000 was too much
I've been running one of these for last four years,we've never run this fast?ours has a prefeeder and runs four colour,I would luv to only run two colours tho,less hassles having print movement.funny how fold rail door is open while it's running,I like the flash counter we have the old setup?that stacker is a legend!!we could run like this if only we had straight board and no solid prints?Jam ups must be epic at this speed hahaha
Ants16 we run our ward flexos (66 and 75) with the dunnage still on and those have prefeeders. prefeeder guy just rips it off quick before it makes its way into the feed section. we have some talented guys. crew on the staley and ward die cutters also have prefeeders and do the same thing with the dunnage. the staley die cutter and ward flexo's run fast too, not the jumbo though, because it has a giant counter ejector at the end that just drops the load straight onto a pallet automatically. you have to interrupt the feed to get the new pallet under there in time but we get the job done. we ran our 66" ward flexo at 7 out of 9 on the speed on a 40,000 piece order and it loved it.
loved it so much that it clogged the vacuum system in the factory for a half hour and everyone had to reverse their conveyors and dump the scrap into a big box. XD
we got a brand new machine and as soon as the Bobst team left, our H&S man had me fit two handed controls to raise and lower the units to prevent someone trapping their hand.
damn, thats fast. i work on a 1978 langston 36" FFG and our average is about 6000-10000 boxes an hour (anywhere from 3.5 to 5 on the speed, though the other day we got lucky and the machine let us run at 6 without major problems, any faster and we couldnt get the trombone timing just right on the counter/ejector and we'd jam up). our factory also has an older ward (pre-marquipwardunited) 66" FFG, and ward jumbo 75" FFG, a bobst expertfold, a bobst flatbed (SPO 1575 EEG), an automatan, mini FFG, and three die cutters (one united, one staley, and one ward). thats just the presses, not including a small taper/gluer, large taper/gluer, S&S slitter, S&S partition slotter, single head stitcher, and a double head stitcher.
I'm thinking about running a 1997 langston 26" 2 color ffg, only thing I'd have to do is set it up stack the bundles rinse repeat. But its higher pace 300bpm, compared to the others at the shop. What's your experience running at higher speeds? That sweet incentive is what's calling me.
@@tropicalplauge5444 the Langston we had was replaced, a long with a ward 66" with a bobst 1228 ffg nt if I remember correctly. It's been many years since I worked at that plant. We never ran our Langston at high speeds because of an imbalance in the printing section that caused the machine to start seperating downs at higher speeds. They're not very tough compared to the wards.
@@flyboy8492 hmm I havent heard anything but good reports about langston, but that does seem weird, havent had the chance to work on a ward but I hope too soon. These higher speeds you talk about, is that above the 300bpm or below? I typically try and run 210% and havent had this issue yet
god damn that's fast. I work on one that runs at 325 max speed. not quite this fancy but does the same. its a 3 color but 90% of the orders are black ink only.
Pretty sure plants like Jellco without a corrugator won't use a prefeeder. You would have to have somebody removing straps and dunnage in order to feed the pre-feeder. Kind of redundant....
This is pretty much the same machine I'm stationed on right now. Biggest difference is we have the pre feeder and a Kawasaki robot at the end to stack them. Pretty sweet set up. I'm new to the corrugated game. Come to find out making a box is more involved than I thought it was.
I run a 3 color with a d/c s&s large flexo but it blows ass after 11,000 an hour inks starts slinging on box on big prints. Little boxes the slots don't stay still tried to talk the owners into buying an evo flexo but they said 3,000,000 was too much
I've been running one of these for last four years,we've never run this fast?ours has a prefeeder and runs four colour,I would luv to only run two colours tho,less hassles having print movement.funny how fold rail door is open while it's running,I like the flash counter we have the old setup?that stacker is a legend!!we could run like this if only we had straight board and no solid prints?Jam ups must be epic at this speed hahaha
Ants16 we run our ward flexos (66 and 75) with the dunnage still on and those have prefeeders. prefeeder guy just rips it off quick before it makes its way into the feed section. we have some talented guys. crew on the staley and ward die cutters also have prefeeders and do the same thing with the dunnage. the staley die cutter and ward flexo's run fast too, not the jumbo though, because it has a giant counter ejector at the end that just drops the load straight onto a pallet automatically. you have to interrupt the feed to get the new pallet under there in time but we get the job done. we ran our 66" ward flexo at 7 out of 9 on the speed on a 40,000 piece order and it loved it.
loved it so much that it clogged the vacuum system in the factory for a half hour and everyone had to reverse their conveyors and dump the scrap into a big box. XD
we got a brand new machine and as soon as the Bobst team left, our H&S man had me fit two handed controls to raise and lower the units to prevent someone trapping their hand.
damn, thats fast. i work on a 1978 langston 36" FFG and our average is about 6000-10000 boxes an hour (anywhere from 3.5 to 5 on the speed, though the other day we got lucky and the machine let us run at 6 without major problems, any faster and we couldnt get the trombone timing just right on the counter/ejector and we'd jam up). our factory also has an older ward (pre-marquipwardunited) 66" FFG, and ward jumbo 75" FFG, a bobst expertfold, a bobst flatbed (SPO 1575 EEG), an automatan, mini FFG, and three die cutters (one united, one staley, and one ward). thats just the presses, not including a small taper/gluer, large taper/gluer, S&S slitter, S&S partition slotter, single head stitcher, and a double head stitcher.
oh, i forgot the sprint autobag, wuste mini, and ritesize machines.
I'm thinking about running a 1997 langston 26" 2 color ffg, only thing I'd have to do is set it up stack the bundles rinse repeat. But its higher pace 300bpm, compared to the others at the shop. What's your experience running at higher speeds? That sweet incentive is what's calling me.
@@flyboy8492 also the setup time is wayyyy different. 16 minute setups, so running 200% youd have to get er done in 8
@@tropicalplauge5444 the Langston we had was replaced, a long with a ward 66" with a bobst 1228 ffg nt if I remember correctly. It's been many years since I worked at that plant. We never ran our Langston at high speeds because of an imbalance in the printing section that caused the machine to start seperating downs at higher speeds. They're not very tough compared to the wards.
@@flyboy8492 hmm I havent heard anything but good reports about langston, but that does seem weird, havent had the chance to work on a ward but I hope too soon. These higher speeds you talk about, is that above the 300bpm or below? I typically try and run 210% and havent had this issue yet
i work with one 618 but have 4 colors and older counter.. new top counter works good with little boxes?
Is this a posilock system?
That is fast Is it a posilock system too?
Chuck V. Yes
Hah. Runs faster then all our machines combined.
Rate ?
god damn that's fast. I work on one that runs at 325 max speed. not quite this fancy but does the same. its a 3 color but 90% of the orders are black ink only.
Is it an Evol?
GalderIncarnate nah ours isn't an evol. its an older model but idk the specifications of it or nothing.
Pretty sure plants like Jellco without a corrugator won't use a prefeeder. You would have to have somebody removing straps and dunnage in order to feed the pre-feeder. Kind of redundant....
the door is open? Safety First!
i operate an old dro 1628...but its 8 color:/...this thing looks fun...hahaa
all that but cant afford a prefeeder!!!
dude i have a prefeeder and it blows it never detects bad sheets a guy feeding is better
Je plains le type qui marge a la main et celui qui fait les palettes !!!
all that machine and got someone hand stacking...