Why you SHOULD go to Art School.
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Why should anyone go to Art School or college in general when there are so many other ways to learn? Education can be a tricky thing but there are a few priceless lessons to learn beyond the classroom.
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Do u think it’s a good idea to go to art school during corona ?
I'm 16 in the Caribbean and honestly my school doesn't even take off safetly or any school subjects seriously because one it's so expensive here and to volunteer money for students who willing to do art and some students are given take it seriously because it just there just get passible grades 😅 and it seems like I'm the only one willing to put people in the right environment for that diligence. Lately I haven't been doing anything, so you talkin about. You talkin about School and what I need to do really encourages me to stay motivated and know that there's still hope....... kind of, in other schools out there. 🤗💜✨
hey there. thanks for the video. was very informative and well done. I was hoping you could help me. I am writing a book type thing. It has alot of information and would like to break it up a bit with drawings and diagrams to make it easier to understand and make it more interesting. But I find publisher and word....very limiting in this aspect so was wondering about using programs/tools used for web toons/manga. This way to perhaps copy and paste the info/writing and add drawings around it.
But obviously I do not need high end stuff for this. could you recommend software and hardware (pens,pads etc) that you think would be good for this sort of thing? In both low price and usability for what I need. It would much appreciated.
Hope all is well.
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Already working on a second degree in computer programming and working full time. So art school was never a option because most require that you go in person.
Take an art class in some community college lol
I'd argue art school is not necessary for the basics. I'm graduating this year and I can safely say if you're looking to learn how to draw, art schools aren't really there for that. They want students who already have the basics down because they have so many applying to begin with (that and they want to produce more prodigies and the assumption is that if your don't learn the basics they shouldn't accept you). A lot of art schools can be very picky. If you're looking to learn a basic class and have the materials already I think you can search that up online already on YT. There are so many options available that I feel art school JUST for that is pointless.
I think the main appeal of art school in general is networking, peer feedback, and exposure to new concepts. A lot of people don't mention it but social media is awful for peer feedback. When you don't get decent critiques you also are going to be dealing with people who may or may not have your best interests in mind. A school setting can be similar in nature as everyone is also looking to make their break but I find that at least in my experience people were willing to help and were generally chill. The tips I got were extremely helpful and I can't say I didn't learn a lot from my peers or meeting new people.
The best way I can put this is that art school isn't 100% useless but it's not 100% as useful as it could be. Unless you're going in for something very specific or you want that experience and can afford it, I'd give it a pass. However a good school will still be well worth the time despite that. I know plenty of people who got a lot of out it and some who just didn't feel it was going to work out. One thing is for certain, make sure you go because you think you could use it! If not, take other essential courses like business/art foundation courses from a community college. It helps!
This!!!!
Thank you
No it does not!
I went to one of the best colleges dont remember a single thing they thought me
Thanks for this...
@@princealmighty5391 If you can't remember a single thing then you prolly not a good student tbh
The other thing you get in art schools are contacts.
If you don't go to art school, you don't know any galleries or other artists it's going to take a lot longer to make those contacts. It took me a good 3 years to have actual contacts (as in friendly contacts and not just " I asked a question and got an answer contact)
(also a trained architect btw, though never worked as one and now I'm one of those lunatics fine art artists)
you should only go to art school if you already have a strong habbit of drawing just as you shouldnt go to school to be a doctor just because it pays well you need a passion it really helps pull you along
I am talented artist ,I don’t find good contact with galleries ,I ask people but no body give me advice ,now I know. 🙏 thanks.
I do know the creator of Gravity Falls, Alex Hirsch, went to art school and he hired a bunch of people who went to school with him, even if they didn't really know him. This is one of the reasons I've taking it more seriously because of contacts.
Your work is amazing Stephanie!
I'd Say if you will choose an Art school, you should Choose Multimedia Artist worth it
If your going to go to college and study some form of art, id recommend getting a degree in the more technical side of art such as animation, 3D modeling, graphic design, etc. I personally am studying 3D modeling, and I have hit a wall as to how much I can learn from the internet, which is where having profs and class mates to ask questions is well worth the money. But going to a traditional art school just to learn how to paint better is a big waste of money. Through my degree I learned so much more than I could have ever learned by myself in terms of 3D modeling/animation. But don't go to college for traditional art.
I can agree with this as well, it can be more worthwhile to learn the things that would be much more expensive to learn on your own like those more technical sides of the creative industry.
I've always loved animation, so I went for animation, and I graduated for 2d animation, but I can NOT do 3d!!! And the dumb thing is almost everyone is moving toward 3d, and there's already so many 2d animators i feel like I'd never get into a studio, so that discourages me from spending time on animation and I just focus on quicker projects like illustrations n stuff to sell at events and online. But going to school still taught me a bunch of stuff I wouldn't have learned otherwise. I wouldn't be running an art business if I hadn't gone to art school. It's literally what made me want to start my business because it just had me so excited to work on art.
@@ergojosh I love hearing about how fine art students can;t find work..Me sitting there as an industrial design major with a stupid grin on my face watching them complain.
@@SamLesCreations I’m moving to 3-d. Comsumers don’t want 2-d animation unless it’s anime these days, and those people don’t even get paid minimum wage. US markets aren’t interested in 2-d anymore.
3-d also has more uses. Sure you can do tv shows, but you can also do video games, movies, all sorts of stuff.
3-d is going to be a career that makes more money in the future. From a business standpoint, it’s a smart decision.
@@SirEdigarious 3d is all about reducing costs. A person will not make more money in the future. Many parts are getting automated. But the salary is decent.
I've been in an art academy for 3 years and graduated in illustration. None of the things I know today about art fundamentals (anatomy, perspective, values, edges, shading, composition etc.) was ever taught to me and I had to fill the gasps over the last year and a half with online tutorials. It's not the same for everyone, but in my case except for some live drawing classes the art academy was a gigantic waste of money and time. When I'm asked about my preparation for work I tell clients I am self taught, it's not too far from truth haha.
yup all those art classes from fancy school only focused on theory and marketing of bullshit, not "actual skills"
Honestly I think if you want to go to art school you have to be able to draw very well when you're applying. Art school will make you more disciplined etc
@Martin Pigeon i think your overestimating knowing how to draw (almost like the 'basics') it rly doesn't take that much discipline to learn to draw 'well', even if you do it as a hobby you can learn to draw 'well' even in a short amount of time
@Martin Pigeon i wouldn't call that discipline but i guess we have different views on what discipline is so i respect your view. I never said it was 'easy' btw it definitley takes dedication but i feel ur underrestimating the average persons ability to dedicate. I guess for some ppl its harder and for some its easier to be dedicated and have discipline (e.g everyone can have different mindsets and experiences) someone can completely dedicate 12+ hours a day to practice or fail multiple times at trying to get something right and it still might not feel like work or tiring to them and the thought of giving up might never even cross their mind
That's wild. I go to community college and I've learned all that stuff.
This came at the right time when I'm setting up my plans for making a portfolio for art school. Thank You :)
Edit: woahh ty for the likes! Unfortunately, due to personal life changes I'm not able to attend art school in this current time (Moved out of state!). However, I'm doing illustrations and youtube stuff! For those who are still going for Art School, don't give up :) And if there's circumstantial things that are out of your control, there are always options out there for you to choose.
Sumire Amicitia literally the best timing for anyone unsure
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Same I need to work on my portfolio, im so scared to start tho because my dream school is very competitive. I wish you good luck!
@@aniimera6455 I wish you luck as well :D
Just want to say to you and @aniimera, art schools are very competitive, and no I didn’t make it into my “dream” art school. But I still made it after getting into an art program I was really looking forward to. Even if you don’t make it to your dream school, still take the school you choose seriously. The professors have so so much to give their students and I’m so grateful for everything I was taught. It will be a lot of work but I’m so proud of you for even trying. Just do your best. imo I think it’s totally worth it. I’m super grateful for everything I’ve learned and the hours I’ve put in to do so.
Recent SCAD grad here: all these points are exactly what makes art school worth it. I'm glad you touched on these points. It's really easy to say "well you really DON'T have to go to school for art" because you really don't. But school forces you to get better faster, especially if you were like me who didn't know how to get better. Also, it really does force you to stop thinking about your style because you have no time to think about it! And eventually you'll start to notice what your style is. But yeah, I would say if you need the discipline and want honest critique, go to art school. You'll really learn if your cut out for an art industry job that way too.
do you think going to SCAD for interior design would be a good idea? I'm trying to see right now if going to that school when i don't have much experience would be a good idea. all i know is that i know its what i want to do. what do you think?
It's so incredibly expensive though for taking a gamble.. I can't afford being in debt, especially as the oldest in my family with one parent who can't work
Was SCAD worth it? Thinking of applying
Im actually planning on going to SCAD, what scholarship opportunities do they offer?
@@inali_illustrates9142 I didn’t end up going to Scad but they gave me like $13,000 scholarship when I applied
I want to be an animator and people say you don't "need" it, but it is so hard to learn it properly alone on my own as well as creating a good enough portfolio to actually get employed. So it is recommended a lot in order to get a job
This. I've been learning how to draw. I'm only doing primitive shapes in perspective and shading them. But that's it. I don't know if I'm doing them right or how to proceed from this to the next step. Guidance is really important.
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Same! Im 11 and I’ve been trying to learn to draw alone, but it’s hard to fully understand something without anyone’s help, sometimes you feel kind of lost, and you can’t criticise urself properly so you don’t know what to improve next
It is actually really hard to be disciplined enough to learn all the different things to make a good animation or artwork. That's why i sometimes leave the pencil and do another thing. But I get back to it eventually
If you want to be an animator you HAVE TO get into the 3D animation relm. It's just where the animation industry is.
Bea Creates nah. Freelance 2D work is still an option, too. I can’t stand 3D.
I think the biggest thing that art school does is simply "forcing" you to draw everyday
All students should know by themselves to draw every day
There shouldn't be anyone to force them
An ordinary FELLOW it’s a motivator that people like me otherwise wouldn’t have by themselves.
An ordinary FELLOW once out of school, you then have the skills to make money with, and so money and clients become your primary motivators.
It was a need for me to draw everyday, even scribble if not. Whatever came from a pencil. In art school i find hard to find some common point to your needs.
For example, if you don't like some assignment or teachers, It's hard to balance your time and take some time to make art for yourself and for the school.
I mean there are some things i Will not use ever in my life, such as canons, vertebrae, etc...
How did you know?I went through the same thing
Honestly, the main reason i’m hesitant about going to art school is that the price is very huge especially in LA. Also, getting into an art school seems like half the battle already which makes no sense to me...While I want to master the fundamentals and would benefit from the skills, those two things really make me question art school
(Thank you for the likes!! I appreciate it!)
Daniel Ciau
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Omg exactly! I'm always confused over applying to online school or an art school.. Since I'm interested to work abroad.. Fortunately I'm young enough to still research and save money and decide.. 😔🤘
you dont have to go to art school if you want to take art classes online you can. this is a sponsored video
Go to a cheaper community College and take art classes there.
I go to art school but in the Netherlands. And art schools are pretty different in different places so I don't know what it's like in USA. It's not focused on techniques but focused on critique and development and the concepts. And my work has changed so so much even though I've only had my first year. It is also an amazing experience. But also here schools are not so crazy expensive so that really helps with choosing to go to school. And here your first year of university/college is half the price. That's because they want to stimulate you to continue with school and get an education. Maybe you should go ask at the school you want to go to, just ask the students not in 2020 probably but maybe that will help you make a disision. Art school is not for anyone. So it really depends on what you find important.
Art school isn’t always worth the cost. You can do art and learn discipline on your own. If anything, artists should should study business. Not having business sense or interest is the real reason artists aren’t making the money though could.
very good point
Well business knowledge came from experience
Candice Chan I agree. They often don’t teach everything you need to know in school anyway.
@@LL-ex1gp Yeah like paying taxes
@@LL-ex1gp i hear the most valuable thing from art school is often the life drawing classes so id advise looking for life drawing classes
usually these classes are truly a turning point in many artists lives from what ive gathered and itd be alot cheaper to just get life drawing classes instead of paying for college which is no doubt going to stress you the fuck out too
I'm 28, just started art school last fall. I've learned two MAJOR things (in my opinion) that have been a game changer for me. One, that I've been struggling with for years, and still struggle with, is time management. Part of this came from watching the fresh out of high school kids wait til last minute to finish things and then all flip out collectively when it came to a due date. I didn't like this feeling myself and at least as far as school is concerned, I'm finally managing my time better and making sure I'm not struggling to finish assignments last minute.
The other thing was learning how to THINK. More than anything I am being taught how to think, how to come up with ideas, how to question and then answer those questions. My teachers are making sure I am marketable, able to get a job post school. Making sure I am able to make a clients dream come to life. How to analyze and make sure I'm doing all I am to create something that gives off some kind of feeling or emotion. I went into school thinking I'd learn certain things better, such as anatomy, etc, and while I am in certain ways, such as lifedrawing class, my art has immensely improved by just adjusting my viewpoint and my thinking to come up with ideas.
Another thing I'd like to add, is being online for half of spring semester/fall, I've greatly missed the critique and feedback times. Standing in a circle going over mockups or thumbnails and giving opinions, and then being critiqued on final projects and seeing what I can't or don't see in my own work being pointed out for good or better. No one has really participated in this with the online classes except my teachers, which, while I appreciate their feedback, they are experts. It's hard to find other art students, at least for me, that know how to critique or are willing to critique. And when it's not required to turn in an assignment, I find myself not bothering with thumbnails or mockups half the time, which is a step backwards for me.
Just my two cents. I learned a lot online before I got into art school, but my art has really improved a thousand fold in just a couple semesters. I'm a person that needs to be directed and taught, preferably in person, so online classes/skillshare type stuff just doesn't really click with me.
Where did you go?
Yeah where are you studying at the moment
Have you thought about how you're going to make 💰?
I went to university for illustration with the idea that I’d end up designing packaging or something and left with a passion for children’s book illustration. Your art tutors can have such a massive impact on you and show you areas of art you hadn’t thought about before. I’m going back in October to start my Masters studies. I want to give myself a year to focus fully on my artwork and portfolio to help me launch my first book!
That’s actually so cool! I got in to a good art school where I would major in illustration which is my true passion but I’m worried it will be too overwhelming not only for the workload, but for the jobs afterwards. I can’t decide between art school or a regular graphic design degree at a university.
This gave me some hope
Thank you for not making me feel stupid for going back to art school. I took 2D animation at Capilano university, North Vancouver. it was a great experience, and made me happy too. I’m taking 3D next. But every other artist I respect seems like they’re trying to make me feel stupid for my decision.
What worked for them, worked for them. Do what works for you.
As an international student who recently checked capilano university program. I’m really glad I found your comment and reading that you had a great experience!
Another thing that I couldn't find anywhere else in art school is to be surrounded by other artists that one thing made me want to practice more to stand out in this small art community 👀
And back before I went to art school I really didn't know how to practice or how to get better at art I was just drawing things, and I got lucky to be a friend with the most hardworking people in the whole school another thing that really poshed my skills to the limit!
As a incoming Junior attending SVA, art school is what u make of it. Some slack and won't get much, others will find new passions from realizing what they love and dont love. People may or may not thrive in art school because it is tough, extremely tough. This is what the art industry itself is though, tough. From my few years at SVA, I loved and hated moments of both and now in 2020, I have decided to take a gap year and start my own business. I love my major but I don't know if its for me and thats ok! I am grateful for SVA and what I learned and I may return next year to earn finish off and earn my degree.
I'm glad that a lot of people take the time to self teach themself. But I hate that they try to make it seem like self taught makes you better than someone who went to college. I was self taught for 5 years before I went to college. Going to college taught me so much about the business side of being an artist, as well as how to problem solve and how to create unique ideas for your work. My mind set is so different because of the things I learned in college.
Which college did you go to?
@@Callmesavxo Sheridan College in Canada
ideally, but at the end of the day art is so subjective that a lot of 'guidance' can often be harmful in the long run. My art teachers admonishing anime in a non-realistic drawing setting led to me feeling that the art I did for fun didn't have any value, and I stopped drawing for six months because of it.
My art teacher (high school) is the exact opposite lol. She sees a masterwork in a literal piece of crap. That said though, glad you picked up drawing again! I hope you’re having fun and believe more in yourself and art because of this!
Yeah I feel you, but I feel highschool and below art teachers don't count. The curriculum they have to teach you has almost nothing to do with the tools you actually need to work in the professional field - not to mention half of these teachers seem straight up toxic.
Riddhima patnala same. That's why I started my art channel to show them that people can appreciate art and it's a beautiful skill worth having. You know if ur allowed, I recommend starting a channel for your art 💕
@@ergojosh ah, thank you for clearing that up! yeah, I've just heard bad things from college art teachers as well, I think laovaan did a good video describing his experience
Riddhima patnala Growing up in a dysfunctional family and overall toxic environment I’ve learned that my parents simply don’t understand my goals, skills and passions, and what I can do with them with time, practice and effort. So I say fuck what they think they know, we live in a very different world where you can study miserably 4-5 years and never get the job you thought you needed. don’t even stress about it do what moves you naturally listen to yourself and intuition and that in itself will give more satisfaction than any external approval. Good luck you got this
depends also on which art school u go to. i think mine has done a really good job at developing our skills which is what school should be for. i asked my profs what they look for when they accept students, they all told me that our school doesnt look at skills. you can learn those at school. they look for passion and out of the box thinking, the potential to become great with guidance. ive learned a LOT at art school, ive improved drastically, but i also put in the work the effort and im always communicating with my profs so i can improve fast. part of that includes learning things outside of what is taught traditionally in school. making friends from art school teachers also means that i have connections after im done, one of my profs is even considering hiring me as a studio assistant for his business once im finished. also critiques is probably the most useful thing to come to my art, getting told whats going well and not going well in a piece from not only my peers but professionals in the field was really valuable.
Gabby Velasquez where did you go?
@@haileyt857 ocadu in canada
Awesome video josh.
I'm toying with the idea of going to art school and I'm 36. You can do anything at any age and if you want to do it, do it. Don't wait until your older and miserable in a job you hate before you decide to do what you wanted in the first place. Life is short, take a chance, you won't regret it. ♥️👌💯
I became a full time artist at 36.. and spent a few years after, learning how to make a living out of it. It's possible, and even better because you have experience and wisdom. I was an idiot in my 20s and would've just made dumb, naked stuff for shock value if I'd been an artist then. Good luck XX
One classmate in my artschool is 48 lol
I am about to turn 30, I really want to go to art school. I might have to hold off because of this pandemic. However my problem is right now which school is right for me and choosing so that the money will be worth it. My 20s I was lost as an artist but now as older person I'm grounded who I am. I cant wait to go back.
The BogdandeLugo This is me, but I’m 25. Like, how the hell was I supposed to focus all of my attention on art as a teenager and early 20 something when I was still growing up? Now I’m trying to save up money for art school.... might settle for an atelier as my first stepping stone. Who knows though!
@@mariaiqbalart omg that's so encouraging to hear 💯👌❤️❤️❤️❤️ that's given me a great boost 😍 I was an idiot in my 20s too 🤣🤣 and I would have been the same I'd say 😁
Thank you for this video because the amount of people in the industry who call art school "worthless" has really been making me question if I'm wasting my time. But if I'm being honest with myself, I don't think I personally would be where I am right now without all the critique and structure/discipline I get from my classes. I can be a bit of a mess when left to my own devices, so having classes to get me used to working on my art regularly and practicing fundamentals has really helped.
He’s not saying if you don’t go to school you don’t draw well ,please stop trying to turn his point around
I haven't made money online, but what i got from this is school will make you a better artist, the internet education and platforms will make you money
I can definitely agree with this. If you look at my art from a year ago you'd see that I've improved a lot. It's really due to the work you put in and the people you have guiding and critiquing you. It's not easy but you can do it.
I’m a freshman in highschool and I really wanna find something pursuing art. It’s one of my main skills and I feel this is something I could actually genuinely enjoy in life.
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I always wanted to go to art school but ended not going. In the end i just learned stuff on my own. I love how insightful your videos are!💕
Just found your channel because of Jazza's and I've been watching nonstop. You are so soothing, and talented. You help my anxiety when it kicks up, I can just turn on one of your videos and focus on that. Which is a HUGE help because my panic attacks manifest in seizures. You are INCREDIBLE. Never change. Definitely a new subscriber here.
Josh coming in with the TRUTH. Critique was always my favorite part of art school & it's honestly something I miss so much. Not everyone appreciates it, and it can be hard to hear something negative about something you've sunk hours or days worth of time into, but the growth from it is incredible.
Bro hit the nail on the head. The discipline and guidance can still be found outside of school but the quality is varied. A lot of the time when we start trying to learn something we don’t really consider how important other people are in our journey. Self made, self taught ideology fails to acknowledge that we need others to become all that we ought to be.
As a graphic design student I am so happy that my school guided me the way they did. I didn't think I was learning anything but when I looked back at my work I seen my growth.
I’m a self taught artist and I only really began taking a serious interest in art my senior year or highschool. First, I taught myself calligraphy then I did watercolor canvas paintings and sold a few, and currently I’m learning to navigate the various things I can do with graphic design. I really hope I continue improving and being inspired
Wanted to go to art school but then I got rejected multiple times because I never had the discipline to create a good portfolio. lol never-ending cycle of lack of discipline and then I joined the military and that did it. sort of. I do still want to go to art school for the experience and create connections. I'll just be a lot older than everyone else. I've been considering CGMA for awhile. It just sucks that they're not considered a "real" school to receive tuition assistance.
Good luck 👍
@@khiclark31 Thank you!
Hey! I actually came into SCAD from a different college so I was considered "pretty old" in my class. But I've also taken classes with a lot of adults actually. So who cares about age! (Also I'm a military brat and SCAD takes the GI Bill.) So if you're really interested in art, but afraid you won't be accepted, I'd try SCAD. They acceptance rate is pretty high (most freshmen drop out though by the end of the year). Make sure you come ready to work if it's really what you want to do.
@@ashliel.3517 Thank you! I am more than ready to work my behind off. After all the work to get the GI Bill, I won't let that go to waste. lol, Thank you very much for the suggestion! I will look into SCAD :)
@@redsyreni2987 no problem! Thank you for your service! ;)
When you live in a country where education is freely provided.. ~(￣▽￣)~
Of course it is hard to get into art schools because as Josh said, schools are picky. But at least the tuition is not a problem here.
Lady Blue :O which country ◉_◉
@@tofu8661 Slovakia (in Europe) As far as I know most of the countries from Europe have free education. And yes even universities.
My school experience was HANDS DOWN the most valuable time that I could have spent as an artist. I definitely would not be the artist I am today if I had just studied business. I actually tried to do a business related degree first and hated every minute of it, which made me turn towards an art degree. I really agree with you Josh about the critique experience - you can't get it anywhere else. Every class varied because of the professors but overall it was always a genuine exchange of feedback on how to improve what you're trying to achieve. I think being exposed to all the different kinds of artists in a class (especially interdisciplinary classes) is really beneficial just to see what's possible and how they do things. I also really agree that it takes TIME to create something amazing. The most amazing piece I've ever done was the largest and took the longest - 6 months of physical work, 1 year total including a "rough draft" and planning phases. It takes time, discipline, and WORK. Can't get around it if you want to be good.
Thank you Josh. I am ready for the next level so I am going to sign up because I want really feed back and guidance. I am for sure ready to grind. I did your last 2 challenges and people were kind enough to encourage me to keep going so thank you for sharing your platform in that way. Super grateful for all you do!
The part about the critiques is so true. It also applies to writers as well. Sure you can share your story online but the most critique you're going to get is, "that's good," "You're writing is nice," or "good description." They're not gonna help you become a better writer. Just like tumblr isn't going to help you become a better artist.
i discovered this channel bout a month ago and have been watching it pretty much everyday
very inspiring and youre VERY good with your words you provide alot of insight that other artist dont know how to tap into as well
the way you word things and take your time to really get to the root is incredibly useful and something that is lacking in the art community and truly an inspiration to many artist beyond just your artwork but as a person someone we can strive to and look up to
Oooh... Critiques... they are SO effing hard to get, and so needed especially when we feel stuck about our art. And I say that from personal experience. I feel like I'm not going forward anymore and a lot of people tell me my art "is cool" but that's not what I see and that won't help me progress. I wish i could afford classes right now, really!
This came at the right time. I've been feeling a bit down alot about my art even though I've only just begun my journey. Super helpful video!
As an instructor at cgma I may be a bit biased but I agree 100% with everything you said
Found your channel today. Never have felt more inspired in a while. Appreciate you brother💪🏾
I am so glad and thankful I'm learning about this now while I'm 13 so I can explore my options, have an idea of how its like, and also be available to resources that can help me improve my art.
I dont know what it is but there is something I love about getting blunt truthful feedback, it points me the right way as to what I need to work on, what I'm lacking, as it's harder with your own work to see it, I always get my husband to look at my work and see if anything looks a bit odd, and he knows that if he sugar coats it I get really annoyed xD like that is not helpful to me lol
I started recently at a community college taking animation/game art. Ive learned some skills that have helped improve my art. Pieces that I feel I was missing. But I've also learned a lot from the internet. Before school, I taught myself. So I'd say if you choose school, still be ready to do your own research and learning on the side. Theres been times where I learned something in class that made something I was trying to learn finally click. And vice versa. Be willing to learn continuously. The feedback has also been a plus and helped me improve. I know famuly and friends mean well but they sometimes try to spare feelings instead of pointing out things you can work on when you ask. Consrructive criticism has helped me. Just my opinion....
Thank you for making this channel. I felt the same way about art, that being that the field seemed to not have many opportunities. I am a senior, and I am finally looking into what universities offer for Art related careers, and my hope is reignited. I still must search, but I am more and more inspired by videos like these. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Now I've gotta go practice!
Your voice is so incredibly smooth and soothing
I'm starting my freshman year of graphic design school this year! This video really helps solidify that my work will be well worth it!
great video, i see a lot of people in the comments are mentioning the high prices of art schools in the u.s. which are harsh, but !! you can also go to a public university / state university and major in art which is significantly cheaper than private art schools !! and always apply for financial aid, if you’re independent and don’t make a lot you can get a lot of (if not all of) the tuition covered :-) i do know though it is hard to commit to college especially if you can’t commute from where you live and have to move.. i just don’t want people to miss out on the opportunity to study art in a university setting because it’s so much fun, maybe even if for just a semester at ur local community college !
Thank you for sharing this. It seems to me that art school is a touchy subject as I've so far seen very few artists who vocally encourage it if it's even mentioned (this is just based from what I've stumbled across). I personally loved my art classes, and what you have shared has been right on for my experience. Of course not every college and teacher/professor is equal, and that's where people looking on rather going to college or not would need to do their research to find what's right for them.
Thanks again. This brought back many memories from art classes and the things I have learned.
Today is my first day of online school (1styearCollege) Thankyou for being so honeeest. You are the reason why I go back and continue my drawings. Thankyou so muuuch you made me realize how practice really works. You taught me to lower my pride and always be open for learning ❤️ Thankyou
I'm pursuing and art highschool starting this autumn and I want sure if I made the right decision, but this video reassured me.
Thanks Josh!
One of the things I value the most from architecture School is the hard work you put on everything. It's important to receive good feedback, but also taking into account how important it is to shape your own criteria when you judge your artworks. I have also heard from artist they talk about self critique, I would like to learn how to be come a better self critique of my work. Thanks for this video, I needed it ❤️❤️❤️
The quality of you vids is totally amazing
Wow!!! I really needed that😭😭
I started to watch ur YT channel recently and I really enjoy your videos, keep up the good work! 👍
PREACH!!!!!! 'm going to share this in my art school group chat page!
Love your thoughts on this subject, Josh. It’s really refreshing to see a fellow art school grad who isn’t bashing it who doesn’t follow up with a sales pitch for their own art course
I only studied art at GCSE level (at secondary school). But never at the advanced level with a mentor. Even though I would be scared at critiques, I would just accept it and try my best. But I would hope my passion wouldn't go away but that's something I would need to work on keeping.
I just finished gcse art. Waiting for results day. I'm not sure if I want to do a level art or not
@@ethereal9658 good job on finishing and good luck for your results. I think you should really ask yourself if you want to pursue art as a career. Discuss it with your parents, or anyone who's opinion you cherish. I think you should do a level art, it's a good way to keep on learning and growing. Plus you also are taking other subjects/classes too so there is a balance.
I really appreciate this because a lot of artists trash art school which confused me a lot and like for someone to say all the positives that come with it like it came at the right time
I just graduated with a BFA in painting and I can definitely say that if you find the right program with invested and interesting professors, it is absolutely worth it if you want to pursue a career in the arts! It takes years of hard work, but it’s amazing if you’re really committed to staying in the field of art☀️
that was a really good video. thanks josh!
I'm writing this here because I don't really feel like putting it anywhere else out there in life. Cheers.
I've never felt more discouraged about pursuing something in life than I did about attending art school for concept art. People have suggested that art schools misguide, lack job prospects, and are a waste of money. Though not always expressed so bluntly, these passive criticisms, coupled with widespread online distaste for art education, led me into a life rut. Discouragement turned into fear, and that fear pushed me to pursue a degree in something "stable." Despite this, I eagerly immersed myself in figure art, painting, and graphic design as extra credits during college. Each art piece and class critique brought a fleeting joy, but I believed that joy was safer as a hobby. Fast forward 8 years, I graduated with a psychology degree I didn't truly desire, maintaining that "stable job" that feels like a never-ending treadmill.
Come February, I'm set to begin art school for a master's in game development. It's time to fill that hole in my heart again. If it's a mistake, so be it. I'm prepared to learn, eager to heal, and ready for growth. The art classes from my undergrad were the last time I felt substantial growth; now, I'm ready to experience it again. Wish me luck.
well im a 18yo teen and honestly i struggled a long time choosing what i wanna do but the fact i finally decided to do it and risk it all brought a lot of joy and will to live and thanks to all the art youtubers that actually contributed a lot in my self education and the improvement of my skill i know that i have a lot of work to do to achieve what i want but yeah im really glad there is ppl like you who actually tell us objectively what there is and what's is waiting for us
ive been going to college now for 3 terms and this fall will be my second year. overall my biggest takeaway yet is the fact that there isnt enough time per skill or topic to go deep into each aspect of say color theory class or painting ...it is what it is tho and it's a great guide to whats possible and touching on how to do it. as you mentioned the discipline is valuable as well as feed back and the knowledge shared even tho spread a bit quickly and thin. also the artists i've been shown has definitley expanded my view and life of and in art!
great video thank you!!
feedback is so hard to take for some ppl because they feel their whole effort being criticized, even when it's not about art, every thing we use a lot of energy working on hurts to kniw we "wasted time" working on smth that is worth nothing, and this last thing is NOT TRUE. everything we worked for a long time, is worth and it's good to have gotten so far because every second we spend learning and putting into practice, is a second we forged our skills for art school to work on us too, it's everybody's effort, something is being born by putting effort and taking feedback, and that something can be beautiful if we allow it to be, if we transform our teachers's words into the best it can become.
Loved this video!
I needed this. I've had so many tell me art school was a waste of time and tayt I could learn the same stuff online. But there are things I can't teach myself and I like guidence and certification. That and it's good to learn from others.
Ergo, You are the Best!!!
I feel so much better about having a hard time with online art classes. You expressed all my issues. I no longer feel dumb.
I'm so glad you connected this to writing. I was self taught until ,my junior year of college when I was finally able to get into my creative writing minor. As much as we did get the "I'm published so know everything" vibe from creative writing classes sometimes, I did learn a lot when you kinda look under the pretention layer.I didn't bs it, I took all of my assignments seriously until like portfolio time because I majored in english and portfolio time was also research paper time. Honestly you have to fully process what you learn or you're gonna just think you learned nothing and then learn exactly what you were supposed to learn somewhere else and deem school and official courses "useless".I have no regrets majoring in English instead of creative writing because learning about existing literature rreally showed me how to break rules and what a writing style is and about audience and commentary.
This really motivated me thank you so so much :)
this video was so helpful! I thank you a million times!!!!
I went to art school and the point about getting out of it what you put in is totally correct. I was really only serious about it for my final year there, so I didn’t get as much out of it as I should have. I kick myself for doing a lot of the partying and hanging out that I did when I should have been working.
Instagram algorithm is my art school 😅😅😂 .
I actually realised you are right about going to art school. Makes me a little sad. But I'll keep doing something 😙😘 .
Dude your voice keeps me so calm. You should do audio books or a podcast about clouds or some shit.
The thing I liked about going to school was just being in the Art room with other people.
Yes, that's the magic
This explains alot thanks🧡
I actually found this video after taking the plunge and enrolling at CGMA, then deciding to look at reviews after the fact (as all responsible spenders do, right? 😅)! I recently got a new job that will allow me to attend art school, and you actually reinforced literally every reason I decided it would be worth the money! I've dabbled on and off with learning how to draw by teach myself the fundamentals but completely lacked the discipline. I bug my good friends for critique and guidance whenever I draw something I feel represents progress I've made. And unlike the other educational background that I have that I had to attend school for, I genuinely want to use this as a chance to improve my skills and build a body of work that I'm proud of! So this video has me hyped.
Wow, I sound like an ad. I'M JUST EXCITED.
Very good advise!
Thanks for that comment about people with kids. Nice to be seen in that way
I've only done the first year of art school yet, but I feel like my work has changed dramatically and I've had a lot of self development, I changed and my work changed. Besides that I've had an amazing time, and will probably have an amazing time, I choose the right school for me. I've done many things and tried a lot I feel like I would otherwise not try.
Absolutely love how you started the video right away and didn t have 5 mins of useless intro. Quality content
I appreciate that!
Thanks for this.
I'm currently 20 right now. And art is my dream, I've been creating, writing stories and making music as long as I can remember. I love it with a passion. I want to be an artist professionally more than anything. But I wasn't born into a rich family, my mom and dad are hard ass workers and they built everything they have. And I like the way I grew up, it taught me hard work pays off and to be driven to achieve your dreams. The only thing is I've been in a dark place for 6 years and I'm finally coming out of it. After alot of abuse and painful experiences I have gained wisdom. I also have had alot of beautiful experiences and it's built my strong character today. I dream to be in art school but I don't have the funds to. I had to move out when I was 18 and start working, scrounging and surviving. But I'm tired. I want to live, thrive and do art everyday of my life and read alot of books. I want to learn as much as I can. Maybe I could teach. But yeah i don't know id really love to go to art school because I know id make the best of it. I'm a natural born rebel though, I skipped alot of school and my dead end jobs but that's because deep down I know Im meant for more. I've been told by countless individuals that I have raw talent and make beautiful (acid paintings) work. And I certainly have the drive to do it. If someone can offer advice on how I can go to school with limited funds that'd be greatly appreciated.
Cgma sounds very cool and useful. I definitely agree that critiques were the best part of art school. Maybe studio space too.
The accountability is great bc you can't just shunt your work to you next bit of free time. Being in the workforce makes you question how much you value your art practice. If it's not paying you like your job is it can be easy to give it up or push it off. And it's like they say, a body at rest stays at rest. School creates momentum, and a body in motion stays in motion
I just found your channel and you made me want to go back in to drawing
Hi Josh, your video is awesome and very helpful! I’m thinking about going back to school for an MFA and fine art painting, it would probably be online because of Covid, lots of helpful tips, the big decision if I want to learn on my own or get the MFA!
Ergo my man im glad too see people like u and Whyt manga are out there representing our NIGERIA
Thank you so much🌞✨
This was very helpful 💕
This is the video I needed as a future freelancer, thank you
For the past 3 years I've been debating whether art school is worth it or not & I finally decided to sign up & see for myself & I think this video just reassured me that I'm making the right decision because ik guidance & critique are really help me learn & grow in my art so ty for making this video !
Love this 💕💕💕
The competition and the expensive tools they provide can help you alot too.
I just recently graduated University in computer science, and i’ve found that the discipline I developed from doing that degree (which for me was super god damn hard) has helped me immensely now that i’ve gone back to learning art. Perhaps it applies to most any challenging thing but learning to push though when things get difficult is certainly the best thing i got from my degree. So i definetly agree in the sense that a lot of people are like “you don’t need a degree to work in programming/IT” and while they’re right i know it was the right decision for me
Thank you for advocating for school
What with my family being on the poor side of the economy, and with Covid going around, going to college isn't an option for me. I REALLY wanted to go to SCAD, but as states before, I can't. Most of what I've learned is from trial and error or TH-cam, and I'm suuuuper thankful for channels like yours helping those that can't afford to go to a proper school. Luckily, I met someone on Warframe, a free to play space ninja robot game, who is an artist too, and he's super talented, and we hop on discord to do art challenges together! He critics me and I tell him what I like about his art and what I don't, I think that given the circumstances, I've gotten the best I can.
Hey! I'm actually a recent SCAD grad! I would say if money is a problem, do try to create a really good portfolio. They do do scholarships. And also contact the school and see if they may give you financial assistance through all this COVID stuff.
(What do you want to go to study for?)
@@ashliel.3517 That's so cool! I forget the specific classes, but I know I'm interested in traditional art, digital art, photography, and sculpting! I'll have to set up a portfolio then, thanks!
Hey there,
I'm a 20 year old University of Central Florida (UCF) animation student living in Florida, currently taking a gap semester or two and I thought I'd add my 2 cents.
Personally, if you want a good college to learn art, I would not recommend SCAD simply for the ridiculous price. I would suggest finding the best in-state university that offers Art or Animation as a major. If you live in a state that's known for their art animation scene like New York, Florida, Texas, or California, then you should have a good amount of universities that should offer Art/Animation as a major. If you don't live in one of those states, that's fine as well. Research the best universities in your state that offers an Art/Animation major. When you've selected one or a few universities that fit that criteria, you now have a target in-state university to aim for.
Get credits for classes to fulfill your GEP requirements and Major Prerequisite classes for your target In-State University. It's a cheap and smart way to get your necessary credits. Also remember that Credit By Exams (CBE) like CLEP, DSST, and ECE are your friends. They're basically like AP credits but you have to self-study for them and then pass the exam to get the credit. It's a great way to get credits at a low and affordable cost and it's very helpful for military veterans. I know a lot of veterans who prefer the flexibility of these ECEs. Once you have the required amount of credits, transfer to your desired In-State University.
Don't trap yourself with mountains of debt that you'll never be able to pay off. Be smart and study in-state. Don't be one of those fools who try to study for an arts degree from out of state, especially the Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD). Now, SCAD is undoubtedly one of the best art schools in the country, with several great animators and showrunners graduating from there. I'm not dissing the pedigree of SCAD here but the price of its tuition. It's a private university with an absolutely insane tuition cost that isn't going to be worth what you learn and trust me (and trust SCAD alumni and Gravity Falls creator Alex Hirsch), all that tuition doesn't go to the school and it's equipment and faculty. The tuition for SCAD is higher than Harvard's and the president for SCAD makes quite more money than the dean of Harvard. Think about that. Graduating from there is going to drag you down with an insane 6 digit debt that you will never be able to pay off, especially given the general range of pay for art based jobs.
You don't need to pay more than Harvard to get a good art education.
That's why I chose the University of Central Florida (UCF) over all the other options. It's in-state, so the tuition is quite cheap. I chose UCF over say Ringling because Ringling was a much more intensive art school. I didn't have the expected artistic ability going into such a school and Ringling is an intensive art schools that only offers majors in the arts. It's the type of school that you go to if you can handle the intensive environment. I wouldn't, not without having my soul crushed from how incompetent I would feel compared to everybody else. UCF offers a whole lot of majors besides the arts, so if I finally decided that Animation wasn't for me, I could always switch majors without that much issue, unlike Ringling which offers only art majors. I don't want to come off like I'm bashing Ringling or anything. It's a great art school and everything. It's important to just understand yourself, your limits, and what you can handle.
Some great online drawing courses that I would recommend would be Glen Vilppu, Aaron Blaise, and Proko Art Courses (especially the Reference Books). Also, the occasional drawing Udemy courses when they go on sale. If you're interested in animation, then I can suggest some great free animation software, depending on whether it's 2D or 3D. If it's general studio art like Illustration, I don't much about that department.
But anyways, this is just my 2 cents. Take it with a grain of salt if you want. And I hope this helps.
@@ajiththomas2465 Thank you so so much for your help! However, I live in Georgia, so I am in the same state as SCAD, lol. The only other art school in state I think is the Art Institute of Atlanta. Also, I don't think I can do any of that credit because I am 25 and no longer in school. I'm halfway through my GED tho. I've never done animation before but I am interested, what are the programs you were talking about?
@@DarkFoxKirin if you are in Georgia, Kennasaw State has just as great of an animation degree as SCAD. Maybe even Georgia State (but not 100% sure if they offer animation as a major- most schools offer Graphic Design or Studio Art). However, SCAD practically accepts everyone and Kennasaw does NOT. So keep that in mind.
Also, like Ajith has said, there are other schools that have less intensive workloads. But the animation industry is a quick pace field so... I'd say if you aren't serious about it, maybe just take some animation courses online.
Otherwise, like I said: school is what you make of it. SCAD IS overpriced. That money doesn't even really go to the teachers most of the time which is why so many of them leave the moment they're back in industry work. What you are paying for is your network. With students and even more with teachers. And you're getting knowledge from those STILL in their field, not someone who used to be or not at all. 🤷♀️
(Knowing you live in Georgia, I also recommend staying at home instead of dorms if you can. Or even a apartment if home is too far. Their dorms are also overpriced.)
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Sir thank you That helped a lot
This whole process is more than possible without a college degree. There are plenty of people that will critique art work. I am of the opinion that artists should be very critical of their own art work. More often than not I don't need someone to tell me what I did wrong but rather what I could do to add to the piece. I like the jist of this video but if you really love art and can't stop doing it, you absolutely don't need to go to school. If anything go to school and learn how to market yourself. Also find stability, creative types aren't generally good at such things. =)