Who needs to worry about healthcare, housing, and society's general well-being when it's possible that somewhere out there one person might be a princess.
Wow YT comments are so buggy, somehow my comment to a completely different comment showed up on this comment 😂 but yeah for real! "I don't need to be literate, I need the Princess Anastasia back!!!"
Seriously, the ability of americans to take any story from around the world, gut it, and repackaged it to serve their propaganda, never ceases to amaze me.
And it including one from American history too. Like Pocahontas Disney. Of course in real life she didn't talk to human faced tree or automatically understand foreign language by just listening the wind
@@revolutionaryth0t Wait Shan Yu from Mulan. He's totally confused me because his look make me wondering what he supposedly is. A twisted creature result from curse or other supranatural influence just like Beast from Beauty and the Beast? Or something else unexplainable
I’m gonna guess that whoever wrote the story for this musical really hates the thought of poor people knowing how to read and revolting against the rich.
Honestly this is such a fun way to explore the realities of the USSR. Like, I have never watched Anastasia (the animation nor the musical), but this is such an informative medium for unpacking much of the red scare propaganda Western folks have become accustomed to, all while exploring how quality of life in the USSR was drastically improved compared to what preceded it. Good work!!
It really is, it basically just repeats a lot of the old tired anti-communist garbage we learn in the west, whereas the movie just completely ignores the existence of the Bolsheviks aside from the revolution scene
@@revolutionaryth0t my parents were refugees from ussr. They were Jews who were treated terribly in ussr. Not that the empire was any better (it was way worse, pogroms). But still. My grandparents couldn't get into university because some teacher gave my grandfather a 3 because of antisemitism and he didn't get a hold medal
I was about to comment something about this. I just wish the Western world knew more about how terrible this communism actually was lol. Humans aren't capable of a fair communism.
@@glovesesI'm sorry for your grandparents but just because a revolution happened does not mean that all old tendencies from previous society disappears overnight, anti-Semitism included.
Or the fact that the remaining Romanovs (especially Olga, the sister of Nicholas II) were Nazi sympathizers in WWII DESPITE living in Denmark. Meanwhile people act like Anastasia was like Anne Frank…um…I think both of these girls would disgaree with you.
@@revolutionaryth0tindeed weren't the Russian tsars secret police one of the most likely sources for the protocols of the eldars of zion? Like, they made the book and spread it.
I feel like, when stories are being discussed, the illusion of historical accuracy is seen as more mature and adult than fantasy, but imo the musical version of Anastasia just brings its shortcomings and biases into more focus by trying to at least appear historically accurate. Honestly, I feel a lot less talked down to if a story makes insane creative decisions like portraying Rasputin as a zombie wizard with a bat sidekick and making him the antagonist of a fairy tale romcom. The musical, in contrast, feels like it's posturing too hard. It's desperate to please, whereas the animated movie unabashedly embraces itself. A writer confidently being wrong by acting like the story they're telling aligns with fact feels less mature to me than a confident writer who knows that they're wrong yet they're clearly owning up to that fact as a creative decision.
There's an actual movie with lenin has the villain it plays in 80s USA(not USSR even thought that would’ve mad more sense) for some reason cause time traveled somehow and lenin played by the guy who hosted Golden Globes and Anastasia played by the actress who played younger Alicent Hightower in house of dragons. Like from I have heard Anastasia and Rasputin have good relationship more idk and from what I heard this movie sucks
I don’t know any Russian, but I know in (at least some) Chekhov plays, the upper class boys refer to their mothers as “maman,” and they integrate a good number of Frenchisms throughout conversation
5:08 I think the "Romanovs posed for photos" part is a nod to the fact that in real life, the family was told that they were posing for a photo in the cellar where they were executed.
I still think the musical is an absolute banger but man is the writing so obviously Anti-Communist after watching this video. I have only ever heard bad things about the USSR, so it's honestly really interesting to learn about the good as well. Now I'm just wondering what the musical would've been like if they had at least played into the fact that history is messy. I feel like both Rasputin and Gleb (or the government?) are unnecessarily villainized. Like, most of the conflict in the musical comes from Anya not remembering who she is and trying to figure out if she's really the Grand Duchess. I haven't really seen the movie, but Gleb shows up fairly little in the musical except to remind people that equality is bad, I guess?
I love the musical because of the music and dancing, but it would have been really interesting if the gave Anastasia an internal conflict about how much she loved her dad, but he still hurt alot of people.
It’s sad how they could have made this good by just making it historically accurate they could have gotten Russian historians to help with the accuracy part but nice video
For real! I guess it's just much easier to go off of stereotypes and cliches that we've heard a million times than to hire on people with actual historical knowledge haha
I don't think it could really be historically accurate unless you change the whole story. It should just be a story about A princess, not Anastasia, who lives in a fantasy realm
i think the individualism of the anastasia narrative both historically and in media is really interesting because it's a very culturally western/captialistic way to view those events, with sympathetic views of the monarchy as individualists rather than considering the implications of those suffering under the russian monarchy
@@ironic_normalcy5409 It's a vast ongoing timeline where Anastasia is one of many heroes (not the protagonist) in a world-wide conflict between the forces of Good and Evil. You can search for Helluva President if you like the sound of that.
@@mynamejeff3545 she's born in 1901 and is younger in cartoon verse, she would be 16 in early 1920s. It means she's 40 in 1941, having rights for free education which includes going to a worker's faculty (evening school for working youth at universities) and capable of volunteering as doctor, sniper or pilot. She's basically same generation as older WWII participants, that's who ARE heroes.
Nicholas' children called his mother Amama, which is the informal Danish word for Granny/Grandma! I believe they did call their mother "Mama" though, based on their letters.
In my evil era 😈 (saying I'll post a new video on Monday and posting it at 11:30pm my time when it's not even Monday anymore in most places because I have ADHD and poor time management skills)
I don't know why but every time I picture the Rumor in St. Petersburg song in my head, my brain always pairs it with the song "There are no cats in America and the streets are littered with cheese"
Okay we have to make a major point. But NO the Les Miserables is NOT about the French Reovulation. the French Revoulation happened in 1790s. The Les Mis happens in the 1830s. so its actally June Rellbion.
True, it wasn't about the 1790s revolution, but the rebels of 1830 definitely considered themselves part of the continuing french revolution. In 1830 France was back to being a monarchy and the left-wing faction who the 1830 rebels aligned with had been sidelined by the liberals. (What a shock!)
@@ilmari1452 the Student rebelliion had nothing to do with the libereals. Its called a STUDENT rebellion for a reason. But a side night is that this person, and others commonly believe that the rebllion in this movie which takes place in 1837 is the SAME rebellion that took place in the 1790s. Its not.
This is so silly and off topic but this musical is one of my favorites and seeing you use the same slime tutorial I show to people is really funny to me
Haha yesss! The first version I tried to watch was full of terrible shaky cam and I couldn't understand anything that was being said so I'm glad I found the slime tutorial lol
If you’re interested Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812 is a Russian musical that’s actually good and isn’t anti-Soviet propaganda. It’s based on part of War and Peace and it’s genuinely one of the best pieces of theatre ever created.
@@revolutionaryth0t it’s all singing so you’ll be able to get the entire show just from listening to it. It has a lot of the lines from the actual book in it so it can get into some 4th wall breaks and self narration territory so it can be a little confusing.
I watched A Royal Family (DR, 2003) as a child and the Anastasia movie have bothered me ever since, the danish grandmother never lived in Paris! I also believe that it’s a major reason why my best friend is an anti-communist socialist, she was obsessed with this movie and the Romanovs as a child.
Oh that's such a delightful documentary! It's always fun hearing about royal figures of the past from the perspective of their children and grandchildren.
When you say "anti-communist socialist" I'm gonna assume you mean a social-democrat who calls themselves a socialist (which tbh seems to be quite common in the USA) because I'm really struggling to think of how being an anti-communist socialist would work. Being critical of the USSR and/or liking a different kind of socialism (e.g. Trotskyists or Maoists) better is one thing, but being entirely anti-communist?
@@mynamejeff3545 Nope, she's a socialist. She's centre-left by our standards, but our entire mainstream politics is left of the US. Many Norwegian socialists are anti-communist. The fact that the rest of the world would call them pretty communist, just goes to show how people with similar politics still get polarized by labels. You could think of them as liberal, democratic communists, we call that socialism.
Gleb isn't the only one who's eagerly Soviet. His boss and co-workers are portrayed in the musical and they seem happy with the state of things. Vlad longs for the Empire days because he was a (fake) nobleman who greatly profited from it. Dimitri was poor under the Emperor and the Soviet government, so he doesn't care, he just wants to get out of Russia. I don't think he's pro-monarchist. Also, none of the characters ever talk about reinstating the Russian monarchy. Not Anya or her grandmother or any of the many former nobles we see in the show.
I just randomly found this video, and I'm glad I did; when I was... 14, I think... we learned in school about some of the history of Russia and the USSR. This was in Canada, so our curriculum wasn't as bad as a musical like this, or any of the worst propaganda in the West, but it also wasn't as fair as what you discuss here. Our textbooks and things at least made it clear, "Life really, really sucked under the monarchy for almost everyone. Serfdom was no way to live. Deposing the royalty was a good thing, even if executing them was... um, unkind." And our books acknowledged that Lenin and his contemporaries truly were trying to make things better. But then our books immediately derailed into, "Anyway, Stalin! You want to know what kinds of evil things HE did?!" From there, the books mentioned a lot of problems in the USSR, but lightly glossed over the parts where actually, Soviet socialism accomplished some good things. I mean, until today, I wasn't aware of the extent to which they got some helpful social programs in place. In fact, some of those sound better than what we have on this side of the world right now. I'm glad to have learned of it today. And I especially appreciate that whole section about looking past propaganda and learning from others, even if you don't have a high opinion of them. I lived in the United States for a few years, and when I first arrived, I was astonished at how many people (not everyone, mind you) were convinced that even Canada --- a place they could easily visit and observe for themselves --- was a hellish nightmare where everybody was poor, nobody had rights, and socialism was ruining everything. I almost wanted to yell at them, "Open your damn eyes! Open your freaking ears! Why not let me tell you what it's actually like, so you can learn?!" Yet they didn't. A lot of people continued to treat me like I was stupid and brainwashed... which is kind of ironic. "Failing an open-book test," because they refuse to open the book, is a really good way to put it. So, thank you for opening this book for some people here. Oh, and my favourite part of this video is the same thing I've talked about a few times with a friend: how cruel and ineffective it is to bully people into doing terrible jobs where they'll be mistreated, because they're being threatened with homelessness if they don't take those jobs. My friend pointed out the same thing you said, which is that people like to labour and excel at things; nobody needs to threaten homelessness and hunger to get people to work. As for me, as someone who deals with mental illness, and who has worked as a care worker for people with special needs, I could attest that being idle is excruciating. It's boring, miserable, eventually even painful. It feels natural, and it feels good to labour. Most people, when given the chance, will eventually choose to find useful work to do. Of course... if we successfully implement that system, people don't tend to become wealthy; instead, everyone just becomes prosperous. (Oh, no. What a nightmare. Alas.) You can see why certain societies don't want their people to know this is an option. OK. That was a lot of things. Thanks once again for this video, and I'll check out Part 2, either tonight or tomorrow.
4:05 in defence of Tsar Nicholas, he wanted to cancel the ball, as he was very upset by the news of the riot. Tsarina Alexandra agreed with him, but the ministers worried that this would insult the foreign dignitaries who had travelled for weeks to attend. International relations were already tense and people feared war. So the Tsar and Tsarina did attend the ball, but they were not happy about it.
at 28min, I think the fact that the "Les Misérables" Musical and the original novel were written by french people and Hamilton by an American while Anastasia is written by THE ennemy country that's written after decades of anti propaganda is a pretty solid explanation. As you said it's such a post cold war story, but that's also what is different from those two musicals.
Gleb is so painfully done in what you call some sort “orientalist” way I can describe him as the same way the “The Sheik” is. Simplifying Sheik is about a super hot Arab sheik who is attracted to a British woman even though he hates all Brits, just like Gleb is a super hot (they use the Phantoms actor for him) Soviet commander who is attracted to the princess whose family his father killed. But even though they are presented that way, they are still not committed to these notions as we learn Sheik is actually British himself and Gleb harbors sympathy and regret for the monarchy. And these culminates into them changing their world views, Sheik and Gleb to finally let go of their prejudices in the end. As you can see, they are written for fetishization of a culture but in a twisted way they are not even allowed to commit to their race/idealogy, getting watered down to almost “non-representation” and gain “outlier” status. These outlier status are seen as their redeeming qualities, so in the end we can see these characters in positive light without acknowledging their former roles being positive as well and allow protagonists to never challenge themselves but further their stance. Like it’s “Arab bad-> he’s British so Arab still bad”, “Communist bad-> this Communist hates being Communist so Communist still bad” .
This video is so educational. I live in Czech republic and over here we never learned anything good about Soviet union. I mean I understand why, but It's so interesting learning about what the life in Russia was before the revolution. School system also romanticizes the era.
okay i might be late to the party, but i loved this. when i saw anastasia the musical and the movie, i had completely forgotten about the hyperfixation i had on anastasia in fifth grade. i wasn’t as interested in if people thought she was alive, more of how terrible russia was before the revolution with a monarchy. thank you for reminding me that it isn’t as romantic as they try to portray it! edit: also ive always loved gleb because he did the right thing, or at least the best thing he could do.
I remember finding the... slime tutorial... of this and watching in horror as the implications of "Everything was fine before the revolution! Why did some randos take out the lovely, kind, royal family :( ?" settled in. For a production that prided itself on "changing to be more historically accurate" it sure liked to LIE.
This was so interesting and really informative. I loved the movie as a kid, and while I still enjoy it for the nostalgia, it's hilariously inaccurate. I think the way the musical does it is worse. By removing the fantasy elements it feels like they wanted to act like it's an accurate portrayal when it really isnt
you should do a video about the show The Great. They openly admit it isn't very accurate but it would be interesting to see what parts wen it comes to the timeline and legislative choices are actually accurate and other things about the characters that are or are not accurate.
It’s nice to have a different perspective about Russian and Communist history because holy shit we’re not given a well rounded education about different ideologies lol
I honestly hate to be a whiny pedant, but Les Miserables does not take place during the French Republican Revolution of 1789-1794 (the one people generally mean when they say "French Revolution"), but the June Rebellion of 1832. Also, I'll give you the American revolution, but outside of leftist circles, the French Revolution is absolutely not looked on with admiration. It's literally generally called "The Reign of Terror" and until Lenin and the Russian Revolution, Robespierre was the cultural shorthand in the western world for violent authoritarianism. Sorry for the ramble, I'm actually restraining myself, 1793 is my "Roman Empire".
Good to know! I saw the movie version of Les Mis one time like 10 years ago so clearly I don't know much about its timeline haha. Do people still generally think of the French revolution as negatively as back then? I've mostly encountered people treating it as neutral or as violent but necessary but obviously I'm not omniscient.
@revolutionaryth0t It's interesting because all anyone ever talks about when you bring it up is "Madame Guillotine," as if that's the only thing that happened. But, if you ask them what should have happened instead, they get all weird and quiet. Everyone understands that the monarchy was failing, but no one wants to admit what Robespierre knew, that "Louis must d1e, that the nation might live." Also, you are not even close to the first person to think that Les Mis took place in 1793. It's really common. Victor Hugo's book came out in 1863, when the events were fresh enough in people's minds that they could remember which uprising was which, but 200some years later, it's easy to forget that in between the Bastille and today, France was a monarchy, then a constitutional monarchy, then a republic, then an empire, then a monarchy again, then a constitutional monarchy, then a republic again, then an empire again, then a republic, then a puppet state, then a republic that TOTALLY ISN'T AN EMPIRE YOU GUYS, and as of earlier this week there's a bit of handwriting on the walls of Paris that it might be changing again. And every time that changed, people were in the streets fvcking it up. It's easy to confuse them.
Have you seen A Gentleman in Moscow? It's another propaganda piece about a lone aristocrat in post-revolution Moscow. He's cultured, sensitive, compassionate, and funny. He has to survive amidst a sea of bolsheviks, all of whom are raging fanatics, sadistic killers, or heartless bureaucrats. It's "prestige" tv, with high production values, but maddeningly closed-minded. Maybe it's worth at least one video essay?
Oh queen I am LIVING for this!! I was hoping you’d assess the musical too😍 excited for more! I wonder if you’ll assess the 1956 one at all? I understand why you wouldn’t, since it was already a reference to the 1997 animated film which you covered previously :)
enjoying these videos, its really great learning the parts of this stuff that, you know, my country's education system doesnt want us to hear about. one bone to pick, but its not about anastasia so feel free tyo ignore: les miserables isn't the french revolution, its actually (the part with les amis de le abc at least) based on a much smaller June Rebellion of 1832 that didn't really achieve much. Enjolras is, if i am remembering correctly, actually based on someone Hugo knew that was involved in that rebellion! (sorry, les mis is one of my favorites and i've read most of the brick several times)
Thank you!! I got a few comments about this, it turns out that I retained nothing about Les Mis after watching it once 10 years ago lol whoops! Sorry to all the Les Mis lovers out there haha
Aw man, i just did this musical with community theater and it was a blast. Total fiction tho to be sure. I always thought of the musical as a stage version of the movie (even tho Rasputin is removed, making it just a little less cartoon-ey), rather than an attempt to make the story more accurate. This video was really interesting tho. On to part 2!
Damn I learned so much in this video. And honestly the burning Gleb (and the writers) about how revolutions are nOT simple (????) earned the like on it's own. Thank you for not pronouncing it Glab :)
1. This somehow reminded of tiktok treating the romanovs(in particular Nicholas II) as some fictional character using template like "the character:😄 his ending: 😢" over a real person, not the movie version, NO the real Nicholas II for some reason. Like romanovs were real and not some cw characters to cry about. The romanovs were literally Europes' worst ruling family and to add also being edited with modern popular songs and one ofnthem was vent with song about face reading(out of all the songs it was THAT one) 2. for some reason (at least in the movie Anastasia and Dimitri are considered enemies to lovers despite not being opposite sites of a conflict and not only annoying each other a little bit
@@revolutionaryth0t and they aren’t the only onces for me every one in while I get tiktoks of any royal family may it be the tudors or bourbons no one is left out and some of this post are about wronged women lime sure some of them were but it’s always royalty and never the "normal" women
Отличное видео! Про мультфильм видос тоже взахлёб просмотрела - очень хорошая подача, отлично поставленная речь и красивый голос. Лайк, подписка, буду ждать ещё :3с
Всё замечательно, кроме тейка про то, что инженеры работали дворниками, потому что не было гарантированно трудоустройство. Причина была в том, что страна была в руинах. В современной РФ такой статьи нет, но и проблемы с трудоустройством тоже нет. Есть множество программ для поступающих, для выпускников и для безработных, так что наличие или отсутствие статьи о труде - это не гарантия безработицы. Во всём остальном отличное, интересное видео
It's interesting, I think les mis and hamilton both take place in time periods before or right when socialism was starting to become its own thing. so it's easier for american libs to consume and see as "good revolutions" because they weren't labeled as the big bad s or c words. being vaguely anti-monarch by itself is american-lib-approved because "we live in a democracy now, yay freedom!" but the second it gets to more recent revolutions and socialism territory it's red scare time. also the american revolution was very much for the benefit of the wealthy white colonists and was inherently liberalist so yea hamilton's gonna get the "good revolution" treatment 😭
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that the musical about the movie about the fall of the Romanov dynasty where Grand Duchess Anastasia isn't slaughtered in Yekaterinburg (and Rasputin actually has magic powers); probably isn't historically accurate...
Okay. There were many things that made me scratch my head, but, I don't know why, buying the music box for can of beans feels especially stupid and urealistic. If it was for quality meat (a luxury good in time of food shortages), or maybe a luxury good like perfume, it could work. It just feels lazy and lacking basic understanding
I didn’t feel like Russia was villainized at all actually- I wanted to go see Russia because I wanted to see the nature and scenery- I want to see a river now
31:30 even the real romanovs worked and volunteered in hospitals during world war 1 and helped clean wounds and nurse soldiers as part of public service so Anastasia here helping at hospitals shouldn’t be such a low thing that they have emphasised on
Thank you for this. I got into Russian history through the film, this led me to reading a bunch of history books written by conservative liberals. It took a while for me to figure out the real history. I wish this video existed then, would've made the journey much easier!
Ah yes, the "socialism is evil" trope never gets old.. The movie was a favorite of mine when I was a child and her royal dress and kokoshnik? tiara was soooo unique compared to the usual European shit we otherwise always see and I'm here for it. I love me some Russian lore and aesthetics. Much love from another _socialist_ country🇸🇪🌹
well, regarding city names, Königsberg is still called Königsberg by the people who live there, although these are now Russians - yes, officially it's called Kaliningrad since WWII, but the people living there don't erase the german past but yeah, they must have been illiterate because otherwise, they would have known, that Sankt Petersburg was named after Peter the Great, who founded the city 🤦♀ I mean, I would have understood when they would have changed the name because of the anti-tsarist mentality, but this
I feel like just the fact there were no survivors from the immediate family, and there is zombie magic in the film, that should be enough for a non Russian to go... "Maybe this isn't historically accurate, and I should read a book." lol, but thats just me.
I remember watching it as a kid (I’m Russian btw) I remember really liking the movie but I always understood that it’s fictional and not historically accurate. I’m surprised that someone will decide to learn history from a cartoon or a musical. I remember that when we moved to Spain my classmates commented about this movie and I had to clarify so things but we were 11-12 so again it’s strange that someone who is no longer a child will watch this and think “so that’s what happened”.
Funny enough, niece of Nikolay 2 Наталья Александровна Андросова - урождённая княжна Наталья Александровна Искандер-Фурманова, lived in USSR pretty pleasant life, loved the country and the government. She worked in circus and rode a motorcycle on the walls😅
I think the Only 2 beef i had with the USSR is when Lenin forget a thousand of people who fled from countryside to capital because they abolished passport only for them to backfire and instead of probably let them retun in the countryside at the expense of the government or give them a job at a capital but instead they were move in an island and when the winter cam they were left to fend themselves and cannibalize each other and the people who were imprisoned in the gulags have the worst work and living conditions and more power tripping from those who oversees it
So love how anyone who brings up George Orwell against socialism never read George Orwell... Who was a socialist, animal farm started in an awful condition, had revolution that led to a good condition and then was betrayed from within and went back to what it was... It was written as a metaphor against Stalin... Who ruined the gains from the soviet revolution... And 1984 was written about his experience in the British propaganda during WW2... It's about governments who push for authoritarian for "safety", staying in war as a way to control the people, always having an enemy, like how the USA moved from the axis powers to the cold war to the war against terrorism...
@LillyP-xs5qe you just told everyone you're a politically and historically illiterate western larper without saying it outright. You should study more history and political theory and not from American or trotskyite sources.
Do you think that the perception of the Soviet Union and communism in general in the West can be traced back to the actions of individuals like Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin? In the idea that they in essence perverted the idea of communism and applied it in all the wrong ways? I have studied The Russian Revolution and the Rise of the Soviet Union and I would love to hear your thoughts on this idea? It is a fascinating subject 🙂 Also I love this movie and as a massive history buff, its inaccuracy of Russian history is awful to say the least 😂
A hierarchical state, no matter how noble it's foundations, will always become corrupt; it is the nature of fixed hierarchies. Personally I believe the fatal flaw within Communism is the concept of a "Proletarian Dictatorship", I am mainly socialist/syndicalist as far as civic philosophy and believe that fixed hierarchy and wage systems invariably lead to corruption and poverty; with that said, Russia was well served by it's revolution in the grand scheme, with it's proletariat being at least brought into the current century and blazing trails for civil liberty not only in Russia but in the west where the domestic policies were making our leaders look bad. There is many valid criticisms of the CCCP and it's rulers, especially after Lenin died, but there is and should always be criticism and scrutiny toward the state, and not just because you've had nationalist propaganda shoveled into your mind; regardless of which nation's propaganda one buys into. I could write my own essays on these topics but I will just say that "Anastasia" as a Western Fairy Tale is a very interesting segue point for that conversation, good job! 🐈⬛
I apparently set my mic volume way too low (even tho it was on the same setting as in the previous video) and had to turn the gain all the way up to compensate so it doesn't sound as good lol 🥲 I kept all the other settings basically the same so it must be that?
Who needs to worry about healthcare, housing, and society's general well-being when it's possible that somewhere out there one person might be a princess.
Wow YT comments are so buggy, somehow my comment to a completely different comment showed up on this comment 😂 but yeah for real! "I don't need to be literate, I need the Princess Anastasia back!!!"
Seriously, the ability of americans to take any story from around the world, gut it, and repackaged it to serve their propaganda, never ceases to amaze me.
And it including one from American history too. Like Pocahontas Disney. Of course in real life she didn't talk to human faced tree or automatically understand foreign language by just listening the wind
Totally!!! It's terrible but weirdly impressive that they can basically Shen Yun-ify anything
@@revolutionaryth0t Wait Shan Yu from Mulan. He's totally confused me because his look make me wondering what he supposedly is. A twisted creature result from curse or other supranatural influence just like Beast from Beauty and the Beast? Or something else unexplainable
@parasetyodwikiuncorojati2434 I think she means the show Shen-Yu which is Chinese propaganda designed to be marketable to all audiences.
Often, these films would start out more adult and accurate, but during development became more diluted and commercial. It's not a great combination.
I’m gonna guess that whoever wrote the story for this musical really hates the thought of poor people knowing how to read and revolting against the rich.
Honestly this is such a fun way to explore the realities of the USSR. Like, I have never watched Anastasia (the animation nor the musical), but this is such an informative medium for unpacking much of the red scare propaganda Western folks have become accustomed to, all while exploring how quality of life in the USSR was drastically improved compared to what preceded it. Good work!!
I'm glad! Thank you!!
Exactly!
Yea!
This musical seems even more Anti-Communist and Reactionary than the movie.
It really is, it basically just repeats a lot of the old tired anti-communist garbage we learn in the west, whereas the movie just completely ignores the existence of the Bolsheviks aside from the revolution scene
@@revolutionaryth0t my parents were refugees from ussr. They were Jews who were treated terribly in ussr. Not that the empire was any better (it was way worse, pogroms). But still. My grandparents couldn't get into university because some teacher gave my grandfather a 3 because of antisemitism and he didn't get a hold medal
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I was about to comment something about this. I just wish the Western world knew more about how terrible this communism actually was lol. Humans aren't capable of a fair communism.
@@glovesesI'm sorry for your grandparents but just because a revolution happened does not mean that all old tendencies from previous society disappears overnight, anti-Semitism included.
Weird they never mentioned the anti-Jewish pogroms under Tsar Nicholas.
Or the fact that the remaining Romanovs (especially Olga, the sister of Nicholas II) were Nazi sympathizers in WWII DESPITE living in Denmark. Meanwhile people act like Anastasia was like Anne Frank…um…I think both of these girls would disgaree with you.
Or that he read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion aloud to his family 😬
@@revolutionaryth0tindeed weren't the Russian tsars secret police one of the most likely sources for the protocols of the eldars of zion? Like, they made the book and spread it.
@@revolutionaryth0t WTF
I feel like, when stories are being discussed, the illusion of historical accuracy is seen as more mature and adult than fantasy, but imo the musical version of Anastasia just brings its shortcomings and biases into more focus by trying to at least appear historically accurate. Honestly, I feel a lot less talked down to if a story makes insane creative decisions like portraying Rasputin as a zombie wizard with a bat sidekick and making him the antagonist of a fairy tale romcom. The musical, in contrast, feels like it's posturing too hard. It's desperate to please, whereas the animated movie unabashedly embraces itself.
A writer confidently being wrong by acting like the story they're telling aligns with fact feels less mature to me than a confident writer who knows that they're wrong yet they're clearly owning up to that fact as a creative decision.
Totally!!!
Uh, they even missed a chance to make Lenin a cool villain, making just a another stupid "russian villain" instead.
There's an actual movie with lenin has the villain it plays in 80s USA(not USSR even thought that would’ve mad more sense) for some reason cause time traveled somehow and lenin played by the guy who hosted Golden Globes and Anastasia played by the actress who played younger Alicent Hightower in house of dragons. Like from I have heard Anastasia and Rasputin have good relationship more idk and from what I heard this movie sucks
Instead they using Rasputin and of course it was so exaggerated since he has demon minions. Also for talking bat and several insects
@@prasetyodwikuncorojati2434 nah, I meant the musical, where they replaced Rasputin with "General Gleb".))
I don’t know any Russian, but I know in (at least some) Chekhov plays, the upper class boys refer to their mothers as “maman,” and they integrate a good number of Frenchisms throughout conversation
thats true, french was very popular in upper class in russian empire
27:50 Les Mis was not about THE French Revolution, though, it was about the June Rebellion of 1832 (a different revolution that happened in France)
5:08 I think the "Romanovs posed for photos" part is a nod to the fact that in real life, the family was told that they were posing for a photo in the cellar where they were executed.
I still think the musical is an absolute banger but man is the writing so obviously Anti-Communist after watching this video. I have only ever heard bad things about the USSR, so it's honestly really interesting to learn about the good as well. Now I'm just wondering what the musical would've been like if they had at least played into the fact that history is messy. I feel like both Rasputin and Gleb (or the government?) are unnecessarily villainized. Like, most of the conflict in the musical comes from Anya not remembering who she is and trying to figure out if she's really the Grand Duchess. I haven't really seen the movie, but Gleb shows up fairly little in the musical except to remind people that equality is bad, I guess?
I love the musical because of the music and dancing, but it would have been really interesting if the gave Anastasia an internal conflict about how much she loved her dad, but he still hurt alot of people.
Don’t talk to me for 42 minutes, a new revolutionaryth0t video about Anastasia just came out.
It’s sad how they could have made this good by just making it historically accurate they could have gotten Russian historians to help with the accuracy part but nice video
For real! I guess it's just much easier to go off of stereotypes and cliches that we've heard a million times than to hire on people with actual historical knowledge haha
I don't think it could really be historically accurate unless you change the whole story. It should just be a story about A princess, not Anastasia, who lives in a fantasy realm
Anyone calling their channel 'revolutionaryth0t' gets at least one view from this guy right here.
i think the individualism of the anastasia narrative both historically and in media is really interesting because it's a very culturally western/captialistic way to view those events, with sympathetic views of the monarchy as individualists rather than considering the implications of those suffering under the russian monarchy
I'm writing an alternate history where Anastasia actually IS a hero.
As in, Anastasia joins the revolution? That'd be pretty cool
Please share when you finish! I have considered something along those lines
@@ironic_normalcy5409 It's a vast ongoing timeline where Anastasia is one of many heroes (not the protagonist) in a world-wide conflict between the forces of Good and Evil.
You can search for Helluva President if you like the sound of that.
@@mynamejeff3545 she's born in 1901 and is younger in cartoon verse, she would be 16 in early 1920s. It means she's 40 in 1941, having rights for free education which includes going to a worker's faculty (evening school for working youth at universities) and capable of volunteering as doctor, sniper or pilot. She's basically same generation as older WWII participants, that's who ARE heroes.
I am writing an alt history involving Anastasia aswell, however I am by no means a good writer
Nicholas' children called his mother Amama, which is the informal Danish word for Granny/Grandma! I believe they did call their mother "Mama" though, based on their letters.
Posting at this ungodly hour is diabolical
In my evil era 😈 (saying I'll post a new video on Monday and posting it at 11:30pm my time when it's not even Monday anymore in most places because I have ADHD and poor time management skills)
@@revolutionaryth0t That all sounds less evil and more relatable, ngl.
I’m watching this a day later at 4:30 AM. 🤣🤣🤣
I'm up.
🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
Much Love!
I don't know why but every time I picture the Rumor in St. Petersburg song in my head, my brain always pairs it with the song "There are no cats in America and the streets are littered with cheese"
Because "there's no cats in America" was very close to what Russians thought about the US in the 90s and 00s
Okay we have to make a major point. But NO the Les Miserables is NOT about the French Reovulation. the French Revoulation happened in 1790s. The Les Mis happens in the 1830s. so its actally June Rellbion.
True, it wasn't about the 1790s revolution, but the rebels of 1830 definitely considered themselves part of the continuing french revolution.
In 1830 France was back to being a monarchy and the left-wing faction who the 1830 rebels aligned with had been sidelined by the liberals. (What a shock!)
@@ilmari1452 the Student rebelliion had nothing to do with the libereals. Its called a STUDENT rebellion for a reason. But a side night is that this person, and others commonly believe that the rebllion in this movie which takes place in 1837 is the SAME rebellion that took place in the 1790s. Its not.
This is so silly and off topic but this musical is one of my favorites and seeing you use the same slime tutorial I show to people is really funny to me
Haha yesss! The first version I tried to watch was full of terrible shaky cam and I couldn't understand anything that was being said so I'm glad I found the slime tutorial lol
If you’re interested Natasha, Pierre, and the Great Comet of 1812 is a Russian musical that’s actually good and isn’t anti-Soviet propaganda. It’s based on part of War and Peace and it’s genuinely one of the best pieces of theatre ever created.
Ooh that sounds cool, I'll definitely have to check that out soon!!
@@revolutionaryth0t it’s all singing so you’ll be able to get the entire show just from listening to it. It has a lot of the lines from the actual book in it so it can get into some 4th wall breaks and self narration territory so it can be a little confusing.
I watched A Royal Family (DR, 2003) as a child and the Anastasia movie have bothered me ever since, the danish grandmother never lived in Paris! I also believe that it’s a major reason why my best friend is an anti-communist socialist, she was obsessed with this movie and the Romanovs as a child.
One of my besties is also an anti-communist socialist and she also loves Anastasia so I think you're definitely onto something there haha
@spiritsafe-ko4eeI think that either he meant social democrats or people who supports socialism but refuses to move into communism next.
Oh that's such a delightful documentary! It's always fun hearing about royal figures of the past from the perspective of their children and grandchildren.
When you say "anti-communist socialist" I'm gonna assume you mean a social-democrat who calls themselves a socialist (which tbh seems to be quite common in the USA) because I'm really struggling to think of how being an anti-communist socialist would work. Being critical of the USSR and/or liking a different kind of socialism (e.g. Trotskyists or Maoists) better is one thing, but being entirely anti-communist?
@@mynamejeff3545 Nope, she's a socialist. She's centre-left by our standards, but our entire mainstream politics is left of the US. Many Norwegian socialists are anti-communist. The fact that the rest of the world would call them pretty communist, just goes to show how people with similar politics still get polarized by labels. You could think of them as liberal, democratic communists, we call that socialism.
Gleb isn't the only one who's eagerly Soviet. His boss and co-workers are portrayed in the musical and they seem happy with the state of things.
Vlad longs for the Empire days because he was a (fake) nobleman who greatly profited from it. Dimitri was poor under the Emperor and the Soviet government, so he doesn't care, he just wants to get out of Russia. I don't think he's pro-monarchist.
Also, none of the characters ever talk about reinstating the Russian monarchy. Not Anya or her grandmother or any of the many former nobles we see in the show.
I just randomly found this video, and I'm glad I did; when I was... 14, I think... we learned in school about some of the history of Russia and the USSR. This was in Canada, so our curriculum wasn't as bad as a musical like this, or any of the worst propaganda in the West, but it also wasn't as fair as what you discuss here.
Our textbooks and things at least made it clear, "Life really, really sucked under the monarchy for almost everyone. Serfdom was no way to live. Deposing the royalty was a good thing, even if executing them was... um, unkind." And our books acknowledged that Lenin and his contemporaries truly were trying to make things better. But then our books immediately derailed into, "Anyway, Stalin! You want to know what kinds of evil things HE did?!" From there, the books mentioned a lot of problems in the USSR, but lightly glossed over the parts where actually, Soviet socialism accomplished some good things.
I mean, until today, I wasn't aware of the extent to which they got some helpful social programs in place. In fact, some of those sound better than what we have on this side of the world right now. I'm glad to have learned of it today.
And I especially appreciate that whole section about looking past propaganda and learning from others, even if you don't have a high opinion of them. I lived in the United States for a few years, and when I first arrived, I was astonished at how many people (not everyone, mind you) were convinced that even Canada --- a place they could easily visit and observe for themselves --- was a hellish nightmare where everybody was poor, nobody had rights, and socialism was ruining everything. I almost wanted to yell at them, "Open your damn eyes! Open your freaking ears! Why not let me tell you what it's actually like, so you can learn?!" Yet they didn't. A lot of people continued to treat me like I was stupid and brainwashed... which is kind of ironic.
"Failing an open-book test," because they refuse to open the book, is a really good way to put it. So, thank you for opening this book for some people here.
Oh, and my favourite part of this video is the same thing I've talked about a few times with a friend: how cruel and ineffective it is to bully people into doing terrible jobs where they'll be mistreated, because they're being threatened with homelessness if they don't take those jobs. My friend pointed out the same thing you said, which is that people like to labour and excel at things; nobody needs to threaten homelessness and hunger to get people to work.
As for me, as someone who deals with mental illness, and who has worked as a care worker for people with special needs, I could attest that being idle is excruciating. It's boring, miserable, eventually even painful. It feels natural, and it feels good to labour. Most people, when given the chance, will eventually choose to find useful work to do.
Of course... if we successfully implement that system, people don't tend to become wealthy; instead, everyone just becomes prosperous. (Oh, no. What a nightmare. Alas.) You can see why certain societies don't want their people to know this is an option.
OK. That was a lot of things. Thanks once again for this video, and I'll check out Part 2, either tonight or tomorrow.
4:05 in defence of Tsar Nicholas, he wanted to cancel the ball, as he was very upset by the news of the riot. Tsarina Alexandra agreed with him, but the ministers worried that this would insult the foreign dignitaries who had travelled for weeks to attend. International relations were already tense and people feared war. So the Tsar and Tsarina did attend the ball, but they were not happy about it.
This is a really impressive amount of information
Thank you!
at 28min, I think the fact that the "Les Misérables" Musical and the original novel were written by french people and Hamilton by an American while Anastasia is written by THE ennemy country that's written after decades of anti propaganda is a pretty solid explanation. As you said it's such a post cold war story, but that's also what is different from those two musicals.
Gleb is so painfully done in what you call some sort “orientalist” way I can describe him as the same way the “The Sheik” is. Simplifying Sheik is about a super hot Arab sheik who is attracted to a British woman even though he hates all Brits, just like Gleb is a super hot (they use the Phantoms actor for him) Soviet commander who is attracted to the princess whose family his father killed. But even though they are presented that way, they are still not committed to these notions as we learn Sheik is actually British himself and Gleb harbors sympathy and regret for the monarchy. And these culminates into them changing their world views, Sheik and Gleb to finally let go of their prejudices in the end. As you can see, they are written for fetishization of a culture but in a twisted way they are not even allowed to commit to their race/idealogy, getting watered down to almost “non-representation” and gain “outlier” status. These outlier status are seen as their redeeming qualities, so in the end we can see these characters in positive light without acknowledging their former roles being positive as well and allow protagonists to never challenge themselves but further their stance. Like it’s “Arab bad-> he’s British so Arab still bad”, “Communist bad-> this Communist hates being Communist so Communist still bad” .
Wow you put into words what I've been thinking but couldn't articulate! This is so true!! Is it cool if I include your comment in part 2?
@@revolutionaryth0t ofc i would be honored
This video is so educational. I live in Czech republic and over here we never learned anything good about Soviet union. I mean I understand why, but It's so interesting learning about what the life in Russia was before the revolution. School system also romanticizes the era.
YASS!! I've been so excited for this!! Also you just described Les Mis from Javert's perspective lol
Thank you!!
okay i might be late to the party, but i loved this. when i saw anastasia the musical and the movie, i had completely forgotten about the hyperfixation i had on anastasia in fifth grade. i wasn’t as interested in if people thought she was alive, more of how terrible russia was before the revolution with a monarchy. thank you for reminding me that it isn’t as romantic as they try to portray it!
edit: also ive always loved gleb because he did the right thing, or at least the best thing he could do.
I'm so glad this is just part one. Im approaching the end and need M O R E
I got you, part 2 coming soon! 😼
Nicholas and alexandra spoke English together since it was the language they were both most fluent in
I remember finding the... slime tutorial... of this and watching in horror as the implications of "Everything was fine before the revolution! Why did some randos take out the lovely, kind, royal family :( ?" settled in. For a production that prided itself on "changing to be more historically accurate" it sure liked to LIE.
outing your hamilton phase gets props from me. subbed, liked and hit the bell.
Thank you!!
I'm writing an Anastasia retelling, and all of this information is super helpful to make sure I'm being as accurate as possible.
How’s it going
This was so interesting and really informative. I loved the movie as a kid, and while I still enjoy it for the nostalgia, it's hilariously inaccurate. I think the way the musical does it is worse. By removing the fantasy elements it feels like they wanted to act like it's an accurate portrayal when it really isnt
Thank you! And yeah I totally agree!!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS OMG
As someone who is a firm believer you can like something and acknowledge its flaws good work!
Ахах, я и не знала, что в мюзикле всё так 😅 Интересно посмотреть дальнейший разбор!
Спасибо!
It's annoying how the movie/musical would've been good if it was accurate or just it's own thing.
For real! Like the music is pretty good, but why does it have to be about the Russian royal family and weirdly anti-Soviet???
they should've used the peace land and bread song from that history cartoon
you should do a video about the show The Great. They openly admit it isn't very accurate but it would be interesting to see what parts wen it comes to the timeline and legislative choices are actually accurate and other things about the characters that are or are not accurate.
revolutionaryth0t is such a revolutionary name, i immediately subscribed x
Yay thanks!!
Tottle's book is so actual today, I doubt he could even imagine. It's a pity it wasn't translated into Russian or Ukrainian (at least to my knowledge)
Congrats on Channel Growth - keep up the great work! (hoping for an analysis of Andrei Rublov one day!)
Thank you! Ooh I haven't seen that movie yet but that's an interesting idea 🤔
@@revolutionaryth0t th-cam.com/video/je75FDjcUP4/w-d-xo.html - my Russian language skills are poor and english sub titles just wash out the nuance.
It’s nice to have a different perspective about Russian and Communist history because holy shit we’re not given a well rounded education about different ideologies lol
I honestly hate to be a whiny pedant, but Les Miserables does not take place during the French Republican Revolution of 1789-1794 (the one people generally mean when they say "French Revolution"), but the June Rebellion of 1832. Also, I'll give you the American revolution, but outside of leftist circles, the French Revolution is absolutely not looked on with admiration. It's literally generally called "The Reign of Terror" and until Lenin and the Russian Revolution, Robespierre was the cultural shorthand in the western world for violent authoritarianism. Sorry for the ramble, I'm actually restraining myself, 1793 is my "Roman Empire".
Good to know! I saw the movie version of Les Mis one time like 10 years ago so clearly I don't know much about its timeline haha. Do people still generally think of the French revolution as negatively as back then? I've mostly encountered people treating it as neutral or as violent but necessary but obviously I'm not omniscient.
@revolutionaryth0t It's interesting because all anyone ever talks about when you bring it up is "Madame Guillotine," as if that's the only thing that happened. But, if you ask them what should have happened instead, they get all weird and quiet. Everyone understands that the monarchy was failing, but no one wants to admit what Robespierre knew, that "Louis must d1e, that the nation might live."
Also, you are not even close to the first person to think that Les Mis took place in 1793. It's really common. Victor Hugo's book came out in 1863, when the events were fresh enough in people's minds that they could remember which uprising was which, but 200some years later, it's easy to forget that in between the Bastille and today, France was a monarchy, then a constitutional monarchy, then a republic, then an empire, then a monarchy again, then a constitutional monarchy, then a republic again, then an empire again, then a republic, then a puppet state, then a republic that TOTALLY ISN'T AN EMPIRE YOU GUYS, and as of earlier this week there's a bit of handwriting on the walls of Paris that it might be changing again. And every time that changed, people were in the streets fvcking it up. It's easy to confuse them.
Have you seen A Gentleman in Moscow? It's another propaganda piece about a lone aristocrat in post-revolution Moscow. He's cultured, sensitive, compassionate, and funny. He has to survive amidst a sea of bolsheviks, all of whom are raging fanatics, sadistic killers, or heartless bureaucrats. It's "prestige" tv, with high production values, but maddeningly closed-minded. Maybe it's worth at least one video essay?
I haven't seen it but that's a good idea since apparently it just came out fairly recently!
Oh queen I am LIVING for this!! I was hoping you’d assess the musical too😍 excited for more! I wonder if you’ll assess the 1956 one at all? I understand why you wouldn’t, since it was already a reference to the 1997 animated film which you covered previously :)
enjoying these videos, its really great learning the parts of this stuff that, you know, my country's education system doesnt want us to hear about. one bone to pick, but its not about anastasia so feel free tyo ignore: les miserables isn't the french revolution, its actually (the part with les amis de le abc at least) based on a much smaller June Rebellion of 1832 that didn't really achieve much. Enjolras is, if i am remembering correctly, actually based on someone Hugo knew that was involved in that rebellion! (sorry, les mis is one of my favorites and i've read most of the brick several times)
Thank you!! I got a few comments about this, it turns out that I retained nothing about Les Mis after watching it once 10 years ago lol whoops! Sorry to all the Les Mis lovers out there haha
Aw man, i just did this musical with community theater and it was a blast. Total fiction tho to be sure. I always thought of the musical as a stage version of the movie (even tho Rasputin is removed, making it just a little less cartoon-ey), rather than an attempt to make the story more accurate.
This video was really interesting tho. On to part 2!
I REALLY like these videos. It’s clear you’re passionate about the topic, and it’s presented well too.
Thank you!!
Damn I learned so much in this video. And honestly the burning Gleb (and the writers) about how revolutions are nOT simple (????) earned the like on it's own. Thank you for not pronouncing it Glab :)
Thank you!!
You need to make a video about all the books you recommend reading so I don't have to keep adding to the list.
This is a great idea!
1. This somehow reminded of tiktok treating the romanovs(in particular Nicholas II) as some fictional character using template like "the character:😄 his ending: 😢" over a real person, not the movie version, NO the real Nicholas II for some reason. Like romanovs were real and not some cw characters to cry about. The romanovs were literally Europes' worst ruling family and to add also being edited with modern popular songs and one ofnthem was vent with song about face reading(out of all the songs it was THAT one)
2. for some reason (at least in the movie Anastasia and Dimitri are considered enemies to lovers despite not being opposite sites of a conflict and not only annoying each other a little bit
Omg I've seen TikToks like that about Nicholas II, so goofy 😭
@@revolutionaryth0t and they aren’t the only onces for me every one in while I get tiktoks of any royal family may it be the tudors or bourbons no one is left out and some of this post are about wronged women lime sure some of them were but it’s always royalty and never the "normal" women
To be fair, i would NEVER accuse Terrence McNally of understanding history, social struggles or cleverness. Well done musicals, musically anyway
Ramon Karimloo can always Get It tho
Отличное видео! Про мультфильм видос тоже взахлёб просмотрела - очень хорошая подача, отлично поставленная речь и красивый голос. Лайк, подписка, буду ждать ещё :3с
Большое спасибо! 🥰
Всё замечательно, кроме тейка про то, что инженеры работали дворниками, потому что не было гарантированно трудоустройство. Причина была в том, что страна была в руинах. В современной РФ такой статьи нет, но и проблемы с трудоустройством тоже нет. Есть множество программ для поступающих, для выпускников и для безработных, так что наличие или отсутствие статьи о труде - это не гарантия безработицы. Во всём остальном отличное, интересное видео
Jor Jor Wel is my least favorite star wars character
"Meesa called Jor Jor Wel. Meesa HATE Big Brother"
@@revolutionaryth0t Jor Jor aiding the trade federation because Boss Nass is too authoritarian
It's interesting, I think les mis and hamilton both take place in time periods before or right when socialism was starting to become its own thing. so it's easier for american libs to consume and see as "good revolutions" because they weren't labeled as the big bad s or c words. being vaguely anti-monarch by itself is american-lib-approved because "we live in a democracy now, yay freedom!" but the second it gets to more recent revolutions and socialism territory it's red scare time. also the american revolution was very much for the benefit of the wealthy white colonists and was inherently liberalist so yea hamilton's gonna get the "good revolution" treatment 😭
The communist, musical theater and historian part of my brain are at constant war about this musical, love this analysis so far!
Thank you!
Inaccurate or not, I prefer Anastasia the musical over Anastasia the movie.
Your opinion of the Soviet Union in historical context is excellent
15:43 to be fair sometimes I'm mad that I was taught to read at all, when I see Tsarist propaganda with my literate eyes... 😢
Lmao so real
1:17 I literally saw Hamilton in previews in Broadway. Now I look back at my liberal past and cry
I feel this, I saw it twice in SF and I listened to the cast recording like, all the time lol 😭
Now that you mention this, we should make a Hamilton sequel about how everybody hated the revolution
Great video, thank you for the infos!
another home run video, thank you so much for breaking down this history 👏
Thank you!!
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that the musical about the movie about the fall of the Romanov dynasty where Grand Duchess Anastasia isn't slaughtered in Yekaterinburg (and Rasputin actually has magic powers); probably isn't historically accurate...
Okay. There were many things that made me scratch my head, but, I don't know why, buying the music box for can of beans feels especially stupid and urealistic. If it was for quality meat (a luxury good in time of food shortages), or maybe a luxury good like perfume, it could work. It just feels lazy and lacking basic understanding
I think it was just a joke about the man starving
The grandmas song “close the door” is one of my favorite songs( in musical theatre) but I still don’t really entirely like the musical
I watched either this movie or some kind of dvd sequel that just featured the whute bat going on his own story
He met Baba Yaga it was fun
I think that's Bartok the Magnificent, the direct-to-video sequel to Anastasia lol I kinda wanna watch it
@@revolutionaryth0t yep that was it
Funny thing is i don't think we had Anastastia, just the sequel
om sp excited about this
I didn’t feel like Russia was villainized at all actually- I wanted to go see Russia because I wanted to see the nature and scenery- I want to see a river now
31:30 even the real romanovs worked and volunteered in hospitals during world war 1 and helped clean wounds and nurse soldiers as part of public service so Anastasia here helping at hospitals shouldn’t be such a low thing that they have emphasised on
Thank you for this. I got into Russian history through the film, this led me to reading a bunch of history books written by conservative liberals. It took a while for me to figure out the real history. I wish this video existed then, would've made the journey much easier!
I prefer Ingrid Bergman and Yul Brynner in the 1956 Oscar winning film. Brynner is sexy
What's your take on how Anastasia was portrayed in "Frankie Drake Mysteries"?
Ah yes, the "socialism is evil" trope never gets old..
The movie was a favorite of mine when I was a child and her royal dress and kokoshnik? tiara was soooo unique compared to the usual European shit we otherwise always see and I'm here for it. I love me some Russian lore and aesthetics.
Much love from another _socialist_ country🇸🇪🌹
well, regarding city names, Königsberg is still called Königsberg by the people who live there, although these are now Russians - yes, officially it's called Kaliningrad since WWII, but the people living there don't erase the german past
but yeah, they must have been illiterate because otherwise, they would have known, that Sankt Petersburg was named after Peter the Great, who founded the city 🤦♀
I mean, I would have understood when they would have changed the name because of the anti-tsarist mentality, but this
I feel like just the fact there were no survivors from the immediate family, and there is zombie magic in the film, that should be enough for a non Russian to go... "Maybe this isn't historically accurate, and I should read a book." lol, but thats just me.
To be fair, the fact that none of the Romanov children survived wasn't conclusively proven until a decade after the movie.
I remember watching it as a kid (I’m Russian btw) I remember really liking the movie but I always understood that it’s fictional and not historically accurate. I’m surprised that someone will decide to learn history from a cartoon or a musical. I remember that when we moved to Spain my classmates commented about this movie and I had to clarify so things but we were 11-12 so again it’s strange that someone who is no longer a child will watch this and think “so that’s what happened”.
Funny enough, niece of Nikolay 2 Наталья Александровна Андросова - урождённая княжна Наталья Александровна Искандер-Фурманова, lived in USSR pretty pleasant life, loved the country and the government. She worked in circus and rode a motorcycle on the walls😅
Wow interesting, that's a very fun fact!
lmfao i was in this musical (community theatre) i still have the script 😭 there’s so much anti-revolutionary sentiment in the stage directions
Lmao did anyone else that you were performing with notice how anti-revolutionary the musical is? 😭
I think the Only 2 beef i had with the USSR is when Lenin forget a thousand of people who fled from countryside to capital because they abolished passport only for them to backfire and instead of probably let them retun in the countryside at the expense of the government or give them a job at a capital but instead they were move in an island and when the winter cam they were left to fend themselves and cannibalize each other and the people who were imprisoned in the gulags have the worst work and living conditions and more power tripping from those who oversees it
Did they sing during the revolution
....yes
full on walk around belting musicals?
😊
It’s just a retelling of the movie with Ingrid Bergman.
Gleb Bobkin was a real person and I think thats who the character is named after.
Yay more Russian Revolution stuff
Leftists are so smart, I love it
So love how anyone who brings up George Orwell against socialism never read George Orwell... Who was a socialist, animal farm started in an awful condition, had revolution that led to a good condition and then was betrayed from within and went back to what it was... It was written as a metaphor against Stalin... Who ruined the gains from the soviet revolution...
And 1984 was written about his experience in the British propaganda during WW2... It's about governments who push for authoritarian for "safety", staying in war as a way to control the people, always having an enemy, like how the USA moved from the axis powers to the cold war to the war against terrorism...
While yes initially Orwell was a socialist he later turned and was an informant for the MI6. But yeah your point in general stands.
Stalin didn't "ruin" the gains of the revolution. Socialist economy only came about during Stalin.
Not to mention George orwell was also an informant gor the british state.
And a cop in Burma during the English occupation.
@LillyP-xs5qe you just told everyone you're a politically and historically illiterate western larper without saying it outright. You should study more history and political theory and not from American or trotskyite sources.
I love you
Do you think that the perception of the Soviet Union and communism in general in the West can be traced back to the actions of individuals like Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin? In the idea that they in essence perverted the idea of communism and applied it in all the wrong ways? I have studied The Russian Revolution and the Rise of the Soviet Union and I would love to hear your thoughts on this idea? It is a fascinating subject 🙂
Also I love this movie and as a massive history buff, its inaccuracy of Russian history is awful to say the least 😂
swear to god im not trolling just a baby leftist but what actions? It's hard to decipher whats propaganda, half-truths, framing, etc
As a Marxist Leninist, I really approve this videos thorough debunking of this liberal/monarchist propaganda. Great job!
36:48 Eating a meal? A chinese meal?
Sorry, some sentences just trigger me with random clips in my brain :)
A hierarchical state, no matter how noble it's foundations, will always become corrupt; it is the nature of fixed hierarchies. Personally I believe the fatal flaw within Communism is the concept of a "Proletarian Dictatorship", I am mainly socialist/syndicalist as far as civic philosophy and believe that fixed hierarchy and wage systems invariably lead to corruption and poverty; with that said, Russia was well served by it's revolution in the grand scheme, with it's proletariat being at least brought into the current century and blazing trails for civil liberty not only in Russia but in the west where the domestic policies were making our leaders look bad. There is many valid criticisms of the CCCP and it's rulers, especially after Lenin died, but there is and should always be criticism and scrutiny toward the state, and not just because you've had nationalist propaganda shoveled into your mind; regardless of which nation's propaganda one buys into. I could write my own essays on these topics but I will just say that "Anastasia" as a Western Fairy Tale is a very interesting segue point for that conversation, good job!
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Just a little nitpick but what happened to your mic quality?
I apparently set my mic volume way too low (even tho it was on the same setting as in the previous video) and had to turn the gain all the way up to compensate so it doesn't sound as good lol 🥲 I kept all the other settings basically the same so it must be that?
@@revolutionaryth0t Understandable have a nice day