I didn't Expect this... | Lance Hedrick "Best way to Prep Espresso" | WDT vs. Blind Shaker

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[@christopherguy1217]

The thing with the Webber style blind shaker is the cone shap that helps in the mixing of the grounds. WiiCoffee makes one at a 10th the price of the Webber but coffee does stick to all parts.

[@endoalley680]

Lance also does a shot in which he pours the beans in very slowly and a little at a time into the grinder. Completely changes the shot profile. That would make a good future test.

[@rajindergill9480]

Especially with the amount of incredibly controlled testing they do here, heh.

[@endoalley680]

@@rajindergill9480 I like that Hoon tends to be the every man’s interpretation of the nerdy stuff Lance or James figure out.

[@rajindergill9480]

@@endoalley680 I’m every man, and even I know that a 4g difference in shot volume changes the flavour profile enough to invalidate a comparison.

[@endoalley680]

@@rajindergill9480 maybe your too fussy for this channel. What's a few grams?

[@rajindergill9480]

@@endoalley680 that’s the point, it changes the flavor, which is what you don’t want when you’re comparing flavor of two different methods, heh. And if it’s for people that aren’t fussy to that extent, there is no point in even comparing flavor nuance. There’s no argument one can make that logically defends this type of flavor comparison testing.

[@rnrnrkrk994]

I love your vids but three things went wrong with this video:
1. Option-O basket you used as blind shaker is NOT the same as blind shaker Lance spoke about. It would be better to use Weber's one due to: (1) it having better coating (2) it having uninterrupted interior (option-o's have bridges at the top that interferes) (3) geometry of funnel at the bottom.
2. Secondly at 6:36 your WDT method puck had a crack which should've induced channeling.
3. For the proper "blind shaker" technique, you need to have some distance between the shaker and the portafilter so the ground have more time before it lands on the basket. In the video you just placed the option-o container directly on the portafilter.

[@markwolfson2023]

I used both methods today, one with WDT, and one with blind shaker. The blind shaker extraction time was 8 seconds faster to achieve 42grams from 18grams espresso! I also used RDT both times. Its messy with blind shaker with RDT, some of the fines stick to the moveable bell and inside the shaker barrel. Interesting.

[@Bowser558]

That is the exact opposite findings of what was presented in this video 😅

[@CBstoffer]

the blind shaker usually makes faster shot times!!

[@NickAlbano253]

This happened when I tried it with a dosing cup with a lid on. My shot was significantly faster, and I wasn’t able to get the pressure that I usually get when using the WDT method.

[@firmbutton6485]

That first puck appeared cracked after tamping. Does the shock of that tamper sometimes crack the puck? Worth doing again .

[@carrscoffee]

Me and my four sons loved this video hoon. Great video we missed this part but watched it just now !! Have a greT Thursday

[@NickAlbano253]

Hoon, thanks for the video. I just ordered mine, and I’m going to do a comparison, too.

[@colourlessbluethings]

With all the tools, different grinders, drippers, kettles etc you have, why haven't you got a spoon for dosing your beans?

[@robertusga]

Blind shaker is totally different outcome than shaking a dosing cup with a lid. What happens after shaking matters. My shot pulled 5 seconds faster using Weber shaker. Stunning. I wasnt expecting that.

[@topjets5616]

Good to see Sal :)

[@DaddyMakesCoffee]

I like the shaker more on Flow/Blooming profile shots rather than direct 9 bar shots. There are differences in results any way.

[@CaveyMoth]

What about blind shaker vs just shaking the heck out of the dosing cup while it's held against the portafilter? Does the shape of the blind shaker and the way it lets the coffee flow make all the difference?

[@JimboJones99]

It’s the way you transfer the grounds into the portafilter that different. With the blind shaker you use gravity to drop the grounds into the portafilter evenly from a height distance. You can’t do that with a normal dosing cup.

[@jessepennington338]

Shaken, not stirred.

[@kdawgg83]

What are your thoughts on the Bianca vs Linea Micra?

[@Bowser558]

By professional barista do you mean like in specialty coffee shop or like Starbucks?

[@dnullify100]

Presumably specialty... This is a fairly in the weeds coffee channel - why would he bring a college kid working double shifts at Starbucks in for a blind tasting?

[@AndyS2K76]

I use, blind shaker than autocomb and then NCDand tamp with force tamper so no mistake. 🤣

[@tim_tool_man]

Me too! I like the work flow.

[@jontpt]

Get a jar with a lid, pour in coffee, shake, dispense into portafilter using a dosing ring or funnel. Cost: $0. These contraptions are completely out of control. Expensive solutions desperately searching for non-existent problems.

[@themodularmodular]

Hook the brothers up with those free jar & dosing funnel 😄

[@jontpt]

@@themodularmodular jar is the bait, dosing funnel is the drug 😂

[@endoalley680]

Ali Baba $9.00 Amazon $12

[@dnullify100]

The "blind shaker" is a definite improvement over just shaking in a dosing cup and transferring. It's easier to settle the bed, faster etc.
And the best thing is you can have this for $13 with free shipping and about 10 days of patience.

[@themodularmodular]

@@dnullify100 saw quite a few available, which one is good?

[@Avatar711Wizard]

I'm not sure if he said he actually prefers it, rather it performed better in his testing.

[@kyllerkill]

Ones a 20 second shot for a light roast. That’s way too small. Light roast should be 1-2.5-3 ratio. Not 1-2. One shot took 20 second. The other was around 39 seconds. Of course one taste better. Not scientific at all

[@kyllerkill]

Lance hendrik is a coffee snob whom I would never take advice from. If you ever think you need to see what he says to know what you think you need to think again. Start thinking first yourself.