The Bristol 188 Flaming Pencil - Supersonic Stainless Steel

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    In 1954, Britain finalized "Specification ER.134D", calling for the development of a supersonic aircraft that would be the fastest in the world behind the U.S. X-15 Space Plane project. The aircraft would need to maintain speeds of at least Mach 2.75 for prolonged periods, necessitating the exploration of radical designs capable of dissipating the extreme temperatures generated by atmospheric friction. Judged to be the most promising of the submitted proposals, the Bristol Aeroplane Company was awarded a contract to create six of their Bristol Type 188 airframes. The experimental stainless steel twin-engine jet plane would be built specifically to avoid kinetic heating of up to 500 degrees Celsius that would melt traditional aircraft. The expensive, complicated, and unusually thin design earned it the nickname the "Flying Pencil..."
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  • @OldSethOnetooth
    @OldSethOnetooth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    "Missile development, on the other hand, boomed." I see what you did there.

    • @TheMattc999
      @TheMattc999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🤣

    • @brenttesterman1198
      @brenttesterman1198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sonically speaking, that is.

    • @ianwalton284
      @ianwalton284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it had a lisp.

    • @nickschneider774
      @nickschneider774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I literally read this comment as the words came out of his mouth. 😄

    • @Xxlibra1018xX
      @Xxlibra1018xX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're at 420 likes, otherwise I would give you one 😏

  • @KE-qu3ty
    @KE-qu3ty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This channel is like forgotten weapons but for airplanes with wonderful audio, Impressive.

  • @andrewwenzel3600
    @andrewwenzel3600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Despite the fact we have since lost our aviation industry, we British really did build some super futuristic looking aircraft. Examples: The Vulcan bomber which looks like a 1950's B-2, the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.52, a twin jet flying wing from 1947, the De Havilland Comet airliner, not only the first jet airliner but one who's aerodynamics inspired a few aircraft that succeeded it. Add Concorde in there and my point is proven

    • @paulqueripel3493
      @paulqueripel3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      And the evil looking Victor, a 1950s sci-fi plane.

    • @ezraprice6709
      @ezraprice6709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Only Rolls Royce and BAE are left standing (although great portions of the old aviation industry have been assimilated into these two giants).

    • @edm9527
      @edm9527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      TSR 2

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Post O-levels in 1970, we were lying on the grass on the school playing fields in Romford, looking up at the clouds, when a fleet of Vulcans flew over (possibly all the Vulcans? - there were half a dozen or more), accompanied by a couple of fighters. They were very low and their approach had been from behind the slope we were lying on, so they appeared above us as if by magic. It was one of those moments that you never forget. I had no idea the Vulvans even existed, so to me the sky had just filled with planes that looked like Concorde! One of them was slightly out of formation an had smoke coming out of one engine.
      As a PS to this, prior to movng to Essex, my dad worked at Vicars (based in the old Brooklands car racing circuit). I remember him working on the revolutionary VC10 (he took me to work with him one Saturday and showed me the new plane under construction - but all I can remember is the full-scale models they had built out of wood!). His last job there was as a tool-maker draughtsman working on the jigs used to make the windscreens for Concorde (seven layers of glass and plastic, if memory serves, with at least one layer of ultra-thin gold leaf used to heat the windscreen).

    • @logisticsnail5014
      @logisticsnail5014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s so true tho, I hope that one of those companies or a new one just comes out of the blue and make a completely insane aircraft

  • @Kurzula5150
    @Kurzula5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    British cabinet minister; "Regrettably the government will no longer be funding further work on your aircraft."
    Bristol Aeroplane Company; "But the leaps in technology we've made."
    British cabinet minister; "Have you thought about cutting off the wings and going for the land speed record?"

    • @ubroberts5541
      @ubroberts5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not quite. It was a primitive attempt at Mach 3 high altitude prolonged flight. History says so, not a matter of opinion but fact.

    • @stanleybuchan4610
      @stanleybuchan4610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ........or even better, we'll give it to the Yanks. (again!)

    • @dougball328
      @dougball328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ubroberts5541 Not much of an attempt since it never even got to Mach 2. Saying you are going to try something is one thing - but what matters is achieving it. Airplanes of this era faced a rapidly changing environment. The advent of improved radar systems and surface to air missiles, along with ICBMs, rendered high speed, high altitude bombers useless. Not only were projects cancelled in the UK and Canada, but the XB-70 program in the US was also cancelled. And the XB-70 DID achieve sustained Mach 3 flight. In addition, the B-58s career was cut very short as well.

  • @darryldyke1264
    @darryldyke1264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Excellent video. Because of this aircraft we still have stainless "Bristol" rivets in the aerospace industry.

    • @IDontWantAHandle101
      @IDontWantAHandle101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The vid gives the impression that it was a complete disaster but the lessons learned had a profound effect on developing aircraft for probably decades.

    • @user-fh2cw9mi5y
      @user-fh2cw9mi5y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Formed through normal means?

    • @darryldyke1264
      @darryldyke1264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Percussion formed but you only get one shot at it. They work harden first go.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IDontWantAHandle101 The plane was a complete disaster... its design and technology were decades behind.

    • @haroldwilkes6608
      @haroldwilkes6608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And in Cockney rhyming slang, "bristols" have an entirely different meaning...

  • @matthewyabsley
    @matthewyabsley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Played at 0.75 speed. This guy speaks faster than the planes he’s speaking about.

    • @mikejohnson5900
      @mikejohnson5900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If you watch old movies, actors used to speak very quickly. For some reason people now speak slowly as if they're talking to idiots. Local news readers are especially guilty of this.

    • @InTheDarknessWhereIDwell
      @InTheDarknessWhereIDwell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At least he sounds better at 0.75

    • @nf359
      @nf359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mikejohnson5900 you’re real fun at parties arent you,

    • @drewcagno
      @drewcagno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I use .75 speed for Ben shapiro as well

    • @danielrittscher456
      @danielrittscher456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can keep up most of the time but when he's going rapid fire on stats and names it's like listening to my brother

  • @maddog2557
    @maddog2557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    The narrator side job is to explain lease agreements at the tail end of commercials.

    • @Vigo327
      @Vigo327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      At least he's not stretching 6 minutes of real content past the 10 minute mark just to qualify for a different level of TH-cam monetization. I find those annoying. I speed up most narration anyway. This is a good speed for me.

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Too much nose candy!

    • @juliogonzo2718
      @juliogonzo2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Howie Felterbush anusolisnotforeveryone.sideeffectsofanusolmayinclude, itchyrectum,fainting,shortnessofbreath,suddendeath,nipplesores. Ifyoubegintoexperienceaperminenterection,swellingoftheeyes,orboilslargerthenasoftball,stoptakinganusolimmediately,andcallyourdoctor.

    • @michaelesposito2629
      @michaelesposito2629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I really don’t get these comments. He talks normal

    • @dr.jamesolack8504
      @dr.jamesolack8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Michael Esposito
      So does an auctioneer.....I suppose.

  • @redvelvetshoes
    @redvelvetshoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The EE lightning had - at the time - the fastest climb rate of any fighter bomber, it was its main selling point as its endurance wasn’t optimal . However , the EE lightning still holds as one of the fastest climb rates of all time.
    The only thing that’s ever held British aviation back, id unimaginative governments. The U.K. still has one of the worlds largest aerospace industries, however.

    • @Rich77UK
      @Rich77UK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There have been many great post war Planes developed in Britain. All axed due to incompitent governmental interference.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “It’s endurance wasn’t optimal” teeheheheheheheeeeheheheheheheeee it was short of fuel on take off! A third of them were lost and the stacked engine design was a disaster. It only carried two inaccurate unreliable missiles (fire streak or Redtop). It was actually a terrible design that must have been fun to fly but not to fight against the massed bombers and long range fighters of the Soviet Airforce.……

    • @AVMamfortas
      @AVMamfortas ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billpugh58 Yaaaa Boooo :)

  • @tectorama
    @tectorama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've seen the 188 at Cosford, it looks impressive. I also saw a lot of scrapped and
    soon to be scrapped aircraft on Foulness when I was working there in 1984.

    • @boffingeorge
      @boffingeorge ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like the 188 😢has been scrapped

  • @aaronbrandes7456
    @aaronbrandes7456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really enjoy these videos. I can even get my kids to sit and enjoy them! My grandfather worked at Research and Development for Allison years ago and would of enjoyed these as well.

  • @Nicodemus1971
    @Nicodemus1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For those of you that note a certain similarity to the Land Speed Record holder Thrust SSC, it might be worthwhile that that car's designer was Ron Ayres, who was also Chief Aerodynamicist at Bristol Aviation...

    • @andrewharper3165
      @andrewharper3165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep I noticed that but not the link to the SSC designer Ron Ayres. Cheers.

    • @mothmagic1
      @mothmagic1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I wasn't aware of thst fact. Thanks for the reminder

  • @angrypandaification
    @angrypandaification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I see new Dark Skies, I watch new Dark Skies.
    Awesome content, thank you!

  • @kger4643
    @kger4643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Dark Skies is one of my subscriptions I always watch as soon as it drops.
    KEEP IT UP!

  • @theodorixjohnson4336
    @theodorixjohnson4336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In some spirit, the idea of this plane would go on to live in the SR71 as the knowledge of its design would influence manufacturing techniques and show that all new alloys were necessary to break that Mach 3 barrier

  • @toomanyuserids
    @toomanyuserids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, the good old Brit aerospace collapse of the '50s. Let's remember that in the time that this thing took to go from OR to first flight, the F-4 Phantom had gone from a private McDonnell design study bought by the US Navy to production squadron service.
    I'm reminded of Bill Gunston's line about how in the post-war era Boeing had more engineers working on B-52 flaps than the entire British aerospace industry had.

  • @mgweible8162
    @mgweible8162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This channel has quickly become my happy place

  • @noldo3837
    @noldo3837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The first supersonic narrator ever.

  • @Booboobear-eo4es
    @Booboobear-eo4es 4 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Looks like a twin engined F-104.

    • @jelkel25
      @jelkel25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Or a Blackbird that's lost a lot of weight.

    • @alwayscensored6871
      @alwayscensored6871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Sharpened Canberra bomber?

    • @mike81920
      @mike81920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It inspires Yakovlev Yak-28

    • @mat5267
      @mat5267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      SR 71’s estranged cousin.

    • @Silverback0687
      @Silverback0687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Think you mean the f104 looks like a single engined 188

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great video! I've never heard of this aircraft!
    The UK seems to have made **lots** of aircraft that are hardly known about by anyone else!
    This one very much reminds me of the Blackbird.

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    "The type 188 was never used in combat" Not surprising really as it was never designed for that purpose.

    • @firestarteronyoutube5542
      @firestarteronyoutube5542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a test and development aircraft for Avro 730 correct me if i am wrong?

    • @TheArgieH
      @TheArgieH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I vaguely remember a picture caption in the Daily Mail hailing it as a fighter prototype. Probably mistook it for a Starfigher, can't expect them to count the number of engines.

  • @MarcStjames-rq1dm
    @MarcStjames-rq1dm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Breaks the heart when they send these "dreams of so many hours awake and hard work" to scrap!

    • @Firehydrant1051
      @Firehydrant1051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hours? Years! "What have you accomplished in the last seven years?" "Nothing." How sad.

  • @shadowgunner69
    @shadowgunner69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Meanwhile, as Bristol searched for data on M2 flight, in Dec 59 an F-106 set the, still unsurpassed, single engine jet speed record at M2.3 with a stock F-106.

  • @BuffMyRadius
    @BuffMyRadius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Kinetic heating is mostly caused by air compressing in front of the vehicle and not by friction. It's a common misconception.

    • @SolarWebsite
      @SolarWebsite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same goes for reentering spacecraft.

    • @malcolmnicholls2893
      @malcolmnicholls2893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ta!

    • @iron60bitch62
      @iron60bitch62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cool thx

    • @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
      @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anomalousboreoeutherian7683 : Pussy?

    • @mopar_dude9227
      @mopar_dude9227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Stuart Marshall that is true with space crafts (or natural objects) reentering the atmosphere. They are much less aerodynamic, travel at much higher speeds and passing through “ thinner” air. Spacecrafts are not designed to be sleek or aerodynamic, but to be blunt to help slow their decent. For supersonic airplanes, most of the heat is from friction, not from compression of air in front of the plane. The much more aerodynamic design of the planes prevent the buildup of pressure.

  • @Funkstar124
    @Funkstar124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing that is not often talked about is that during supersonic development, the British scientists shared their data with their American counterparts as a reciprocal agreement to speed up progress. The Yanks could not get over instability of their aircraft when hitting the sound barrier meant they hit a brick wall and couldn't work it out. The Brits had developed a new tail plain and flaps system that got over this and stabilised the aircraft and as per agreement, shared this info with the Yanks. Then THEY broke the sound barrier and claimed that prize fir themselves. The British engineers were well pissed as you can imagine!

    • @toonmag50
      @toonmag50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In the cold light of day they've taken advantage of the British at every opportunity.
      Their propaganda machine in Hollywood tries to blur this fact and this combined to floppsy British polititians and their myths about the "special relationship" encourage this misplaced trust in them.

  • @ianbarber311
    @ianbarber311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And across the street the Sr71 was being built. This thing was for testing.

  • @Administrator_O-5
    @Administrator_O-5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've always said that it needs to be a requirement that a copy of every vehicle, weapons system etc needs to stored for museum display later on. It doesn't have to contain the classified and/or expensive parts, but it does need to be a complete copy for historical sake. Given the amount of $$$ thrown at these projects, this is not unreasonable. Furthermore, several times older tech has been pulled from mothball to reference for emerging tech. Just a thought...

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is not practical.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see that the flying pencil pushers disagree.📉😎📈

    • @rnichol22
      @rnichol22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is still an original in the raf museum

    • @Administrator_O-5
      @Administrator_O-5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rnichol22 I was referring to ALL vehicles in chronological order.
      ,

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Administrator_O-5 That makes you a hoarder....

  • @russellrobson7632
    @russellrobson7632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And the SR71 Blackbird went into service in January 1966... the striking similarity to the Bristol 188 can't be ignored.

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that the Mach 3+ A-12 flew in April 1962 cannot be ignored either... it clearly demonstrates just how far behind Britian was in supersonic aircraft technology.

  • @stephanluijcx6860
    @stephanluijcx6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i still love how you went from scary stories to military history, love the content my guy

  • @marklewis35
    @marklewis35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The photo of the 188 outside a hanger at RAF Cosford displayed at 6 min 8 secs is almost identical to one I took at the airshow in 2016, The photographer must've been stood right next to me :-D

  • @TheRainblossoms
    @TheRainblossoms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the 'dark side of the 1960's cold war' vibe this channel has.

  • @cesarcamilovallejo4543
    @cesarcamilovallejo4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the speed of the narration, the fact that he is not trying to stretch the video and that he gets to the gist of it quickly. Btw that is the grandpa of the thrust ssc.

  • @bernardw4842
    @bernardw4842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I reckon you got the music just right for a voice-over documentary - there's plenty of sonic space in it so it doesn't intrude on the voice-over and you restrained yourself from pumping it too loud. It's just meant to stop the gaps in the voice from being too empty without distracting from the commentary... voice and music levels were also steady and sounded normalised. Good job

  • @bongofrenzy303
    @bongofrenzy303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Brits had already beaten the sound barrier with an unmanned test plane which was also a test bed for an escape capsule where the whole piiot enclosure would blow free and parachute down. That test vehicle is somewhere at the bottom of the Atlantic.

  • @seeingeyegod
    @seeingeyegod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Actually never heard of this plane before! I love when that happens. It's so weird.

    • @iconicshrubbery
      @iconicshrubbery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's there in the Cosford Museum, engineless,but menacingly- penetrating in shiny-like-new stainless steel.

  • @steven2212
    @steven2212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Well done. The Brits used to have a superior aviation industry. Truly world class.

    • @timmason7430
      @timmason7430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Killed off by Political(US) pressure.

    • @grahamsmith2022
      @grahamsmith2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      After Brexit we'll be lucky to have enough money to build our own toilet paper.😔😢

    • @MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS
      @MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I concur, they certainly did, but often bad management and execution..

    • @grahamsmith2022
      @grahamsmith2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Brian Roome The Comet was hindered by a design flaw that was traced to square passenger windows causing fatigue to the fuselage leading to cracking and failure,this was before the technology for rigorously testing aircraft was available,the problem was eliminated on later versions of the Comet but by then the damage was done to its reputation,it didn't selectively kill woman and children and it was a good plane after that issue was solved.The Russians stole the design for the Concorde using espionage as the Soviets so often did,it was a technological marvel,well ahead of its time but it was a joint French/British venture,it was too expensive to operate but definitely wasn't given away,it was too expensive to give away!

    • @thebeautifulones5436
      @thebeautifulones5436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had

  • @VincentVader
    @VincentVader 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    This guy speaks at just under the speed of sound.

    • @michaelg4931
      @michaelg4931 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You think so? I watched it at 1.5x and it seems normal to me though I usually watch all videos at 1.5-2x so I guess I'm used to it.

    • @KCJAM1
      @KCJAM1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually his lips move slightly faster than the actual sounds!;)

    • @bradleyweiss1089
      @bradleyweiss1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IDK I heard a loud boom and I thought it was a jet on the video but I think it was this guy.

    • @johannmckraken9399
      @johannmckraken9399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      jim mueller I think his lips suffer from kinetic heating due to the speed at which he speaks. Maybe he should coat them with titanium alloy.

    • @terrellwilson251
      @terrellwilson251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can change the speed? Omg

  • @miguela.alvarez7284
    @miguela.alvarez7284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really love your content.. Thanks for the knowledge.. Great job..

  • @grahamfrench340
    @grahamfrench340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've seen it at Cosford, It's an impressive exhibit.

  • @andrewbevan4662
    @andrewbevan4662 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hard to believe there was a time when Britain was making and experimenting with multiple hi tech aircraft

    • @iron60bitch62
      @iron60bitch62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately they also help the Soviet union do the same thing by not being very careful with your technology and in some instances assisted the Soviet union with jet engines and certain types of rocket engines

    • @jonnijon8370
      @jonnijon8370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@iron60bitch62 Labour government gave the USSR two Rolls Royce jet engines as a gift after the second world war.

    • @zodsmuffin2369
      @zodsmuffin2369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and we are still doing that today

    • @Jabber-ig3iw
      @Jabber-ig3iw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jonni jon well they were our allies.🙄🙄

    • @rogerhudson9732
      @rogerhudson9732 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonnijon8370
      The Mig15 wouldn't have been great without Rolls Royce.

  • @jaymoore5742
    @jaymoore5742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Managed to sit in the 188 at RAF Cosford at an open cockpit day... I have a picture of the instruments and it’s interesting to note that the Mach metre only goes up to 1.15 Mach. It’s like they knew all along...

  • @alfepalfe
    @alfepalfe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact Sweden had the tp 52, wich was just a canberra really. But it was called "Blyertspennan" wich means the pencil look up pics of the tp52 and you will see why.

  • @rokcetscientist5653
    @rokcetscientist5653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    I hope this voice over artist has a couple of drags of a blunt before he records his next project.

    • @ryankiesow833
      @ryankiesow833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I'm stoned to the bone but I can still handle this. It does sound like he's on a fuckton of adderall though.

    • @TheFulcrum2000
      @TheFulcrum2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Watch at 0.75 speed, it's almost perfect.

    • @chrisvincent1189
      @chrisvincent1189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol

    • @norray81
      @norray81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheFulcrum2000 i did that to :-D

    • @annunacky4463
      @annunacky4463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Just listen faster...

  • @arthurschipper8906
    @arthurschipper8906 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "dark" series library of stock footage is the stuff of legend.

  • @kennethcarpenterii7636
    @kennethcarpenterii7636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video!

  • @danielhurley7047
    @danielhurley7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Although this video is very interesting, I had to leave after the 10 minute mark. Four advertisements in an eleven minute video is ridiculous.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Adbloc.

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@flybobbie1449
      It shouldn't be needed!

    • @logisticsnail5014
      @logisticsnail5014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      scottyo64 well then enjoy the ads, gotta make that ad revenue

    • @LoneWolf051
      @LoneWolf051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@logisticsnail5014 yea but this is excessive

    • @nascarnate326
      @nascarnate326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree. He’s losing me as a viewer.

  • @BiORubbs
    @BiORubbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im pleased one was saved.

  • @blacksheep25251
    @blacksheep25251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm getting serious SR 71 Black Bird vibes here (1966). Even though it didn't perform as required, I'm still in awe of the designers and engineers who create this marvels..

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, the SR71 is a variant of the earlier Mach 3+ Lockheed A-12.

  • @Zaczly
    @Zaczly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its a really cool aircraft and seeing it in real life is very nice.

  • @C90C60C30
    @C90C60C30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant (at three quarter speed setting).

    • @Ar-kx4hp
      @Ar-kx4hp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dunno, he sounds like he’s got a pint of jack daniels in him at .75

  • @camdenharper7244
    @camdenharper7244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love the content.
    It's great to see coverage on non American/Russian aircraft. Definitely a gap in my knowledge.

    • @timcoffey5927
      @timcoffey5927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol - Britain literally started the jet age ( before the nazis ) ....

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Barely two hours ago I was thinking of Clarence Kelly Johnson while riding past his old Star Lane Ranch in Santa Ynez, so this story about the ambitious Flying Pencil project is quite a coincidence.

  • @cdp200442
    @cdp200442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The SR-71 just left all others in the dust

  • @muddygaming2500
    @muddygaming2500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your vids keep it up

  • @samgoldbloom394
    @samgoldbloom394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Guinness book of records for your voice 😲

  • @yoyoyoyo2580
    @yoyoyoyo2580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the Philippines, we have the most effective weapon that ever existed. The "Flying tsinelas". It can fly at the speed of light and will leave a huge mark on the target.

  • @harryschaefer8563
    @harryschaefer8563 ปีที่แล้ว

    The advent of schlieren imaging was a game changer for design engineers, it reveals so much about air flow over control surfaces.

  • @user-fh2cw9mi5y
    @user-fh2cw9mi5y 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    without watching this, let me guess? the Americans got involved an/or British government infighting led to cost escalating out of control.

    • @deemond5289
      @deemond5289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It just was never very good. The Lightning was waaaaay faster and for longer.

    • @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
      @THE-BUNKEN-DRUM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      HA Surprisingly no in this case.

    • @rnichol22
      @rnichol22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deemond5289 which is crap considering the range of the lightning lol

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@deemond5289
      People forget the lasting technology that came from this project. Even if the plane was not successful the technology was

    • @anthonywilson4873
      @anthonywilson4873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      rikster The Lightning’s job, get to Russian nuclear armed bombers over North Sea soon as. Local traffic real quick it did the job. TSR2 what a plane made Lightning look slow. It flew it worked but was screwed by whom. US was any ally why would they do that, communist plant more likely we are talking more like MACH 3. If you want to avoid war talk quietly and hold a big club.

  • @aquilarossa5191
    @aquilarossa5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    X-15 should not really count. It can not take off by itself. It only had very short endurance due to being a rocket, etc, etc.

    • @jdh023
      @jdh023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely true...but she was was a beautiful bullet.

    • @2paulcoyle
      @2paulcoyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      US wanted data on mach 6-7 piloted aircraft. Why waste time/money on take off gear?
      If the X-15 wasn't a piloted, throttled, maneuverable, landing gear, winged aircraft, what was it?

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@2paulcoyle a manned missile

    • @testingfunctions4924
      @testingfunctions4924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carlosandleon LOL perfect

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlosandleon *armed with a tactical nuke.*

  • @FairladyS130
    @FairladyS130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speaking quickly yet being understandable is an art. This man has it.

  • @casinodelonge
    @casinodelonge 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interested video, I lived near Cosford, its a brilliant museum, nice to remember the Pencil.

  • @MrAckers75
    @MrAckers75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    To be fair when the brits make a plane it’s always a good looking aircraft

  • @PenDragonsPig
    @PenDragonsPig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gloster Meteor? Gots two engines- must be a 188, almost, not, nothing like it. So why the shot of the Meteor?

    • @jimdavison4077
      @jimdavison4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, i was wondering of i was seeing things. On my phone so small screen and old eyes.

    • @PenDragonsPig
      @PenDragonsPig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they throw in the wrong type to mess with us. I’ve lost count of the number of times them being incorrect with there aircraft recognition- unless the thumbnail really peaks my interest I have nothing to do with ‘Dark Skies’. Often there will be an aircraft in a clip, wrong Air Force, wrong period, wrong use, wrong number of engines, wrong everything.

    • @FlukeyFlukeFluke
      @FlukeyFlukeFluke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spotted that too and s CD are here to see if anyone else did. I guess there aren’t that many clips of the 188 around so I suppose they felt the meteor had the right number of engines in the right place and almost the right tail config. Or maybe they didn’t notice? 😆

  • @stargazeronesixseven
    @stargazeronesixseven 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great research on this fascinating Aircraft >>> Bristol 188! Thank You So Much! ♥️🌷🕯

  • @tonyogden8509
    @tonyogden8509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video - thank you!

  • @blackbird8632
    @blackbird8632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Love the vids, really dislike the enormous amount of adds.

    • @rbailey1240
      @rbailey1240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      4d b10ck is your friend.

    • @TheMattc999
      @TheMattc999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ad
      Blocker
      .....
      Edit- or you could just subscribe to yt premium. I did, and it's the best $11.99 a month I've ever spent, I originally signed up to be able to download shit to listen to/watch while camping in the middle of nowhere, and turns out I haven't seen a single ad since. That makes it worth it right there.

    • @richardhall1667
      @richardhall1667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was about to ask “what ads?” Lol.

    • @MrMike7332
      @MrMike7332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMattc999 TH-cam music comes with premium and has gotten really good over the years.

    • @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
      @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I know its not a perfect fix but skipping to the end and replaying the video removes the ads

  • @keevee09
    @keevee09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Biddy biddy biddy. Whew. I feel like I've just met an Auctioneer in an elevator.

  • @Ronin4614
    @Ronin4614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great series! Thank you!!

  • @haraldpettersen3649
    @haraldpettersen3649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Bristol 188 was a nice aircraft, with its long pointed nose you could see that it was serious. With its shiny plates, it looks like a silver bird, and there is no doubt where it belongs, high above the clouds on the search after prey.

  • @ntme9
    @ntme9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The A12 first flight was 1962..

    • @dibblydooda7604
      @dibblydooda7604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SHHH THAT WUZ A SECRET...

    • @chriswalker2858
      @chriswalker2858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar design layout, titanium not stainless steel.

    • @alexx86hater
      @alexx86hater 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriswalker2858 stainless steel was used in MiG-25 which flew faster than the specs for the T-188 (slower than Oxcart though)

    • @bestamerica
      @bestamerica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexx86hater
      hi A...
      '
      ussr russia mig-25 is a half france electric device and half ussr russia

  • @6pin66
    @6pin66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And here I thought the pilot's nickname was going to be "pencil pusher"

  • @MarkTheMorose
    @MarkTheMorose 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredible looking aircraft. It looks futuristic even now, like something out of Thunderbirds!

  • @shadowraith1
    @shadowraith1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, at least there's one left. Presumably gutted. Thanks for sharing. :)

  • @tomcline5631
    @tomcline5631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anybody else see the inspiration for the Thrust SSC record car?? Pretty damn cool!
    Would have liked to seen "puddle welding" whatever the hell that is!

    • @aaronsmith5433
      @aaronsmith5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joining thin bits by overlapping and burning through top layer to puddle up the bottom for homogeneneity( "not that theirs anything wrong with that ". - Seinfeld)

    • @tomcline5631
      @tomcline5631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronsmith5433 So basically "seamless" weld??? Like friction welding in plastics, basically goo's the pieces into one piece?

  • @garwhittaker3743
    @garwhittaker3743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you imagine what sort of aircraft the British would be building now if the government hadn't destroyed it's aircraft industry.

    • @user-ky6vw5up9m
      @user-ky6vw5up9m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brian Roome not true. Vickers Viscount sold 800 across the world.

  • @snoconejbones
    @snoconejbones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video🤘🏽

  • @bigimskiweisenheimer8325
    @bigimskiweisenheimer8325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never saw one before. Thought I had seen them all. Cool

  • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
    @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I understand that good content isn't free. But the frequency and placement of the ads made this video hard to get into. It was reminiscent of tacky channels.

    • @jamstagerable
      @jamstagerable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't get one add on my end.

    • @jamstagerable
      @jamstagerable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Btw the channel doesn't decide the ads, that is TH-cam

    • @broadsword0072
      @broadsword0072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      use AdBlock plus, no ads ever.

    • @NoahSpurrier
      @NoahSpurrier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pay for TH-cam Red. It's cheap and totally worth it. No ads.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamstagerable I have not had a ad on TH-cam in 5 years.
      Who pays for TH-cam?

  • @WolfgangVonKempelen838
    @WolfgangVonKempelen838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A good video, although the narrator sounded in a hurry and in need to visit Mr Crapper before it was too late.

  • @cameronsavoie768
    @cameronsavoie768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like when the narration is close to the speed I talk in my head.

  • @drywinddotnet
    @drywinddotnet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work @Dark Skies

  • @alanmoss3603
    @alanmoss3603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We had so many stunning cutting-edge designs in the '50's and early '60's - and also so many missed opportunities due to short-sighted politicians (i'm looking at you, Harold Wilson)!

    • @FallenPhoenix86
      @FallenPhoenix86 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fairness this particular project really was a dud.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The program was a fail. ICBM's were a better system.

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing to do with Wilson - we were dirt poor, and crap at manufacturing and selling. The 'great British design' myth is just that - the last fantasy of Empire. In reality it was Boys Own stories Vs the biggest manufacturing/seeing power the world has ever seen. Who was going to win that one?

  • @wntu4
    @wntu4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wow, never saw this before. That is a sexy beast.

    • @wntu4
      @wntu4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brian Roome Looks and functionality are two different things. Just look at Kim K. Looks great, useless as all hell.

  • @richardsweet5068
    @richardsweet5068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A mention of TSR2 should be included here, Bristol Siddeley Olympus engines, and it worked!

  • @daveblock4061
    @daveblock4061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sound barrier was broken by a manned aircraft in level flight in 1947, not 1948. It was broken in various ways well before that, including the cracking of a whip.

  • @vandarkholme4745
    @vandarkholme4745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:20
    That's the French SNCASO Trident interceptor. Cool plane itself tho, it's a rocket-jet hybrid

    • @gerhardris
      @gerhardris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some times it indeed was the French type. And pictures of I guess TSR 2's being scrapped. Yet still bloody good show with a lot I didn't know!

  • @ArveEriksson
    @ArveEriksson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Set playback speed to 0.75. You're welcome!

  • @CakePrincessCelestia
    @CakePrincessCelestia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The wings are just there to have something to put the roundels on and separate the engines from the fuselage.

  • @user-jy8mo5fi5q
    @user-jy8mo5fi5q หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is one of these aircraft at the RAF Cosford Museum, in the flesh it is a beautiful looking aircraft even though it never met expectations.

  • @johncongdon7398
    @johncongdon7398 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 6:51 you show a meteor F8, not the 188, great video but I see so many visual inaccuracies with your videos

    • @Dynasaur2010
      @Dynasaur2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And at 0:18 and 6:24 they show a French SNCASO Trident mixed power experimental from the mid 1950s

  • @btrdangerdan2010
    @btrdangerdan2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Looks like the SR-71 has a cousin now.

    • @FIREBRAND38
      @FIREBRAND38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Calm down. The highest speed attained was Mach 1.88 not even the Mach 2 design speed. Don't even mention this in the same breath as the A-12/SR-71

    • @bestamerica
      @bestamerica 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi S D...
      '
      any aircrafts and any airplanes are NOT familys / NOT relatives

    • @btrdangerdan2010
      @btrdangerdan2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bestamerica I know. I was only joking in light hearted mess. Take it easy.

  • @zombiebiker5581
    @zombiebiker5581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m only couple miles from Foulness Island and Shoeburyness. Great plane

  • @NickRatnieks
    @NickRatnieks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the Bristol 188 at the Farnborough Air Show as a kid in 1962. At the next air show there in 1964, I saw a rather different Bristol- the biplane Bulldog from the late 1920s. The very next day the Bulldog crashed and was not reconstructed for many decades and does not now fly.

  • @RTD1947
    @RTD1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sound barrier was broken in Oct 1947!! Get your facts right!

  • @tamhuynhhong6546
    @tamhuynhhong6546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid. Just need to slow down a bit man. ;)

  • @everTriumph
    @everTriumph ปีที่แล้ว

    The 188 looks a lot like a Starfighter. And we can definitely see where Fireball XL5 got its inspiration.

  • @cyrillicsam
    @cyrillicsam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it's better known as the flaming pencil. The Dornier 17 is the flying pencil (fliegender Bleistift). Both can be found at Cosford.

  • @joshlampe3458
    @joshlampe3458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Narrator is trying to talk so fast he's mispronouncing words all over the place, it makes it difficult to comprehend what is being said. Otherwise well done!

    • @TheWinning247
      @TheWinning247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah, he's just american. Nothing to worry about here.

    • @glyphs3
      @glyphs3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have to agree with Josh. Talks too fast and too many ads. Sorry but I'm out.

    • @user-os6ch5pt7w
      @user-os6ch5pt7w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He sounds fine. Are you that low IQ you can't follow simple English?

    • @nimueh4298
      @nimueh4298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Josh Lampe
      He is talking fast but there is nothing wrong with his pronunciation.

    • @tomaikenhead
      @tomaikenhead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glyphs3 get some ad blockers and a vpn and then go complain to google

  • @jacksongarafola6657
    @jacksongarafola6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Waaaay too many commercials. A commercial every 2 minutes is disruptive to your own content and makes for a displeasurable viewing experience. It also seems very greedy. With so many commercials I am overlooking your whole channel.

    • @michael6485
      @michael6485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its free

    • @sjoormen1
      @sjoormen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michael6485 Its not. It's payed by your time.

    • @colderwar
      @colderwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Adblock or similar

    • @dragoonTT
      @dragoonTT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Adblock or pay a monthly fee. Nothing is free in life so get used to it.

    • @andrewbevan4662
      @andrewbevan4662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get no adverts and I'm not using an ad blocker

  • @adamfrbs9259
    @adamfrbs9259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man these are great, keep em coming. Really like the Skunkworks stuff if ya can do more. Don't even care if it's about their breakroom. Lol

  • @RB747domme
    @RB747domme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AVRO were definitely on to something... If you look at the aircraft profile at 8:34 - you can see the SR71.
    I'm only talking about the laminar wing with the 3-phase SRAM jets buried in the wing, with movable intake shock cones at the front of the nacelles.
    With more development it would have been a short hop to planar cockpit, fuse- and empennage. Having only one rudder, square on, would have become a RADAR hungry hindrance, so it probably wouldn't have taken the designers long to follow Kelly Johnson's lead and fitted twin rudders with a slight incline.
    I think what it does show, is form follows function, and most talented engineers will end up with the same result.

    • @stealthworx4371
      @stealthworx4371 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SR71 was a later derivative of the A-12 OXCART project from 1962 which was its first official flight. The A-12s were even faster and flew higher. One even worked as a interceptor concept prototype.