1975 Week 12 - This Is The NFL

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  • @BlazeOfGlory742
    @BlazeOfGlory742 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Please keep these beauties coming

  • @barbaracaroll
    @barbaracaroll 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Love these especially the early 1970s

    • @MRKRG9
      @MRKRG9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I only love the 70s!! I have watched EVERY 70s NBC games out there. I love the old announcers.

    • @kawhi2019
      @kawhi2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Best period 1970-1984 especially the NBC games.

  • @loyevangelists
    @loyevangelists 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks for posting this. This is back when football was football

  • @samson9535
    @samson9535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Never missed this program when it was on.

  • @derricklowe2823
    @derricklowe2823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    🏈 I love the picture quality with this video. It's sometimes not so crisp when it's highlights from the 70's. These are my days of watching football and enjoying it. I don't have the passion for football in the 2020's like I do from the 70's. It is still football but my passion for it is no longer there. These 70's highlights wakes that passion up and I love it 🏈.

  • @ROCK35377
    @ROCK35377 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I LOVED seeing the late, great Conrad Dobler doing some pregame, deficient push-ups! That man was true NFL character!

    • @danabaker596
      @danabaker596 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      July 25, 1977 Sports Illustrated Cover: The Dirtiest Player in the NFL: Conrad Dobler. I was 13 years old, but I remember that cover like it was yesterday. I remember how intimidating he looked. Tough.

  • @depaola63
    @depaola63 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Classic from my youth 🏈📺👀 I’m now 61.

    • @jessehaskell1397
      @jessehaskell1397 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m also 61. I lived for these highlights given I could only watch three games a Sunday. I bought hundreds of football cards and read the sports sections of the newspaper to learn about the players. Now there’s too many teams playing too many games.

  • @tonyaltano7992
    @tonyaltano7992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Great NFL narrator, play-by-play voice Pat Summerall.

  • @raelraven3
    @raelraven3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    So great to see highlights of the Baltimore Colts in the mid-70s. I loved those Bert Jones-led teams.

    • @barefoot191
      @barefoot191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me too. I remember that Christmas getting a white T-shirt with blue trimming with the horse shoe emblem and "We will arrive in '75" across the front and the number 7 on the back. I wore that shirt until it turned to rags.

  • @asayeah844
    @asayeah844 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I grew up watching these. The thing is now before, during, and after the play, I keep waiting for flags to fly.

  • @colinwhitby8219
    @colinwhitby8219 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These bring back memories! I have been watching NFL since I was a kid. When the previous Redskins lost 14-7 to Miami! I am now a Commanders fan! I have been through a lot! LOL! But I did get to see 5 SBs and 3 wins along the way!

  • @billmalone5050
    @billmalone5050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love those Dallas Cowboys royal blue road jerseys that they wore from the 1964 season tbrough the 1980 season. I wish that they wear them again, at least every once in awhile.

    • @wiedep
      @wiedep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There was a string of losses connected with those jerseys, Cowboys tried to wear them as little as possible. Wins are in the white ones.

    • @BB-rm3xi
      @BB-rm3xi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wiedepactually they've still continued to wear them at least a few times every year. They almost always do in Washington. Sometimes they've worn them home too.

    • @Zobin211
      @Zobin211 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@wiedep One of the strangest traditions was how the Cardinals would elect to wear their white jerseys at home - but only against Dallas - thus compelling the Cowboys to wear the blue jerseys. The Cardinals have not been in the same division as Dallas since 2001 - but, as far as I know, they still compel Dallas to wear the blue jerseys when they play in Arizona.
      Another oddity that links the Cardinals and Cowboys is that they are two of the only three teams in the NFL that has never deviated from using a gray facemask. The Raiders are the other.

    • @howl_with_the_wolves
      @howl_with_the_wolves 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Atlanta falcons had better uniforms back than those red helmets and red jerseys with white pants. Gorgeous! Their uniforms today are crap

    • @user117831
      @user117831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wiedep Yes, mostly because they were on the road and not favored. I remember them winning an NFC championship game in Los Angeles in those blue unis.

  • @IntheClutch75
    @IntheClutch75 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Quiet as kept, THIS is the era that made football what it is today. These were the games and seasons when football gained its epic status.

  • @kylemarzion2814
    @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love this stuff!!!! I was 8 years old. And loving the NFL. But not loving my Packers record. Lol

  • @danholm4952
    @danholm4952 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    bob Avellini?? 'a chucky hunk of rookie meat' thats gold..

  • @kawhi2019
    @kawhi2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My favorite NFL era from 1975-84 as seeing these OJ Simpson highlights against Miami are truly special. I believe this was the first season of the Superdome in New Orleans, so nice to see those Rams highlights. Also, the Dallas Cowboys uniforms were a thing of beauty with that dark tone of gray for the pants and beautiful blue jerseys, especially with that font. I hated it that they went to block numbers in 1982.

    • @Billfish57
      @Billfish57 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      OJ was really something back then and the Dolphins needed two or three guys to bring him down most of the time. The Dolphins managed a perfect record in the 70's against Buffalo with 20-0 win loss regular season record for the decade of the Dolphin dominance. That defense was so smart, almost never out of position, they counted on each other to make plays and not give up the big plays. I remember people complaining about the Dolphins back then because they were so boring, winning all the time without super stars or animals making highlight reals, just consistent solid football that resulted in wins week after week. Their super bowel wins looked close on the score board but really were not in question at all, they dominated both of those championship games, neither were close. Good old days, proof though that haters gonna hate, no matter what.

  • @bobbyb2901
    @bobbyb2901 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please upload all of these that you have in this quality 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you!!!

  • @igorslocks
    @igorslocks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What's truly beautiful is that blue Dallas wore up until 1982

    • @kawhi2019
      @kawhi2019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree that blue was the best with that old style western font too on the numbers.

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes cool uniforms!!! I remember those. Never wore them much of course they wore white home.

    • @3243_
      @3243_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Actually, up through 1981; that's when they switched to the navy blue jerseys and conventional light silver pants.

  • @HaroldMccoy-vv4lt
    @HaroldMccoy-vv4lt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The season which led to the first great/ competitive sb 10 Dallas vs Pittsburgh .

  • @jamesmooney8933
    @jamesmooney8933 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The 70's were the Steelers' golden years. Houston Oilers had great teams, but were in the division with the Steelers and never got to the Super Bowl.

  • @joesteedman8230
    @joesteedman8230 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss the old St Louis cardinals 😊.loved this show & this week in baseball.were my favorites when I was a kid.

  • @dustylover100
    @dustylover100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These are the same Cowboys that wound up playing in the Super Bowl against Pittsburgh.

  • @JamalMcCoy-kt5zf
    @JamalMcCoy-kt5zf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    New Orleans Saints owner Brad Benson couldn't spend enough money for a decent offensive line to protect Archie Manning 😂😅😅

  • @MikeOfAmerica
    @MikeOfAmerica 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Classic soundtracks

  • @oldredbarnman
    @oldredbarnman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Billy "Hummingbird" Johnson? Possibly the only time "White Shoes" was called that? First time I've ever heard that nickname anyway.

  • @centrist1008
    @centrist1008 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the old unis

  • @kandeincarlsbad6900
    @kandeincarlsbad6900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Cardinals / Cowboys uniforms were fantastic.

  • @craighouse1279
    @craighouse1279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember going to this game. On the way I tried to rob a bank and got sent to prison. Twenty years later I went to a game. It wasn't fun.

    • @philhamood7596
      @philhamood7596 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sarcasm or truth

    • @craighouse1279
      @craighouse1279 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@philhamood7596 at least in prison there were white women available on the weekends. Getting out in 95 I saw the Cowboys vs Eagles. The play was bad but the fans loved it.

  • @greggy9786
    @greggy9786 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just want to say, thank you guys who didn’t get paid with the large of money but played with grit and heart and scarfing their bodies.

  • @weegie18
    @weegie18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hummingbird Johnson? Huh?

  • @wiedep
    @wiedep 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That fumbled punt return by Rams is amazing, surprised it never showed up on one the compilation tapes. Peterson's
    muffed spike is fitting end to that play.
    Surprised that NFL Films writers didn't use Green Bay's QB Don Milan's name that is close to actor Ray Milland who starred in
    "The Lost Weekend" which was what happened to the Pack in Minnesota.
    Looked like a rough day for the QB's.
    "...Jets...suffered this year..." pretty much an annual theme.

  • @RAJohns
    @RAJohns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dallas had no break away running game in 1975.

  • @drbonesshow1
    @drbonesshow1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    RIP Dobler.

  • @kandeincarlsbad6900
    @kandeincarlsbad6900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My knees hurt watching the skin burns from the plastic covered cement....awful.

  • @AlmostReady504
    @AlmostReady504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Classic HOF names
    From when I was a kid

  • @dad4ever-c90
    @dad4ever-c90 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So different than today's NFL. Everything from straight-on kicking to players not celebrating after each time they did their job properly. But what stood out the most for me was the SIDELINES. It looked like 90 percent players and just a small coaching staff. Today there is such a mass of humanity on each side, there must be 2 or 3 assistants for each player!

    • @davidmitchell6873
      @davidmitchell6873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dem was da times when us fellas had it made.

    • @michaelcavallacci2945
      @michaelcavallacci2945 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spot on.
      Now guys celebrate like idiots after a 5 yard run at midfield in the first quarter. Or do ridiculous end zone dances and dance routines after scoring a meaningless touchdown down by 30.

  • @ZAPPED916
    @ZAPPED916 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m assuming there were no rules…

    • @RafaelSale
      @RafaelSale 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were rules, but the game at that time gave defenses more freedom to make big hits on the offensive player.

  • @dennistyler9852
    @dennistyler9852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love those Cardiac Cards…

  • @GangsterofloveSpacecowboy
    @GangsterofloveSpacecowboy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you happen to have the 87 NFC Championship Game, Vikings vs Redskins. Can’t find the whole game anywhere!

  • @Ziffel67
    @Ziffel67 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    35:21 "Steve Grogan retaliated against a Jets secondary which at times seemed to be attending another game." Good line, Pat! ... The Browns were playing much better the last 5 games of 75 and this would carry over in to 76 where they not only played the Steelers competitively but actually defeated them. ... Falcons likewise were playing much better in latter part of 75, mainly due to Bartkowski at QB who had been injured earlier in the season. I watched that Red skin Falcon game on tv back at the time. Good game. They said Billy Kilmer won the shootout despite a broken foot?? Tough man! ... Cards whipped the Cowboys, but then the Cowboys wouldn't lose again until the Super Bowl. ... Eagles had no defense against the Bengals. No d line that game. Makes you wonder how they held the Redskins to just 13 total games in the 2 they routed them in. ... Packers looked awful against Vikings and were awful in 75. Always feel bad for Bart Starr that he just didn't have the talent on his team as a coach like did when he was QB in their glory years. ... Rams surprisingly struggled with the Saints that game.

  • @kolfibrown6540
    @kolfibrown6540 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back when Washington was the Redskins. I hate politics in sports. Skol Vikings in the 74-75 season

  • @billmalone5050
    @billmalone5050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Dallas Cowboys wore those cursed, jinxed, bad luck road blue jerseys in the 1978-79 NFC Championship Game against the Los Angeles Rams in the L.A. Coliseum and shut them out by the score of 28-0 and avenging an earlier regular season 27-13 loss to the Rams in the very same L.A. Coliseum and in those same bad luck road blue jerseys. As a lifelong Dallas Cowboys fan, this game is one of my favorite Cowboy victories of all time because they won so decisively in those road blue jerseys. For NO valid, logical, scientific reasons, I am convinced that some how and some way that the Dallas Cowboys would have beaten the Pittsbugh Steelers two weeks later in Super Bowl 13 if they had only worn their road blue jerseys. And if I had been born with wheels then I would have been a wagon. LOL !!!!!

    • @oldredbarnman
      @oldredbarnman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would really be interested to know what the Cowboys record was when wearing their rarley worn blue jerseys. I personally like them, and would love to find one from that era ( I'm not a Cowboys fan), I think they look great!

    • @djbryanladd
      @djbryanladd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those are sweet looking jerseys though

    • @billmalone5050
      @billmalone5050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@oldredbarnmanGive me some time and I will try and look this stuff up. It might take awhile. But I will get back tk you.

    • @kvernon1
      @kvernon1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But the very next year, the Cowboys defeated Miami in the Super Bowl 24-3 --- wearing their white jerseys. I would hate to admit this proved your point -- I always loved it when they wore those blue jerseys, because they always seemed to go to great lengths to avoid wearing them!

    • @user117831
      @user117831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was a kid in the 1970s, and Dallas was on all the time in the afternoon game. I never knew they had another jersey other than the white one until I saw halftime highlights on Monday Night Football.

  • @FreddieArnold-o6e
    @FreddieArnold-o6e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is real football.muck mire and determination. The way its supposed to be with pretty cheerleaders knowing their place

    • @davidmitchell6873
      @davidmitchell6873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From the incel who's never played one down of football lol.

  • @berardfedele3486
    @berardfedele3486 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The dirt!!!

  • @elitecardhunter7852
    @elitecardhunter7852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:03 would have resulted in an on field arrest these days 😅

  • @6400az
    @6400az 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WTF, why the extended oil check ?! 4:39

  • @MrBeyondbelief
    @MrBeyondbelief 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saints were NOT the “who dat nation” back then!!

  • @thomasberry2198
    @thomasberry2198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's painful to watch these guys play on astro turf.

  • @jameswesterman9283
    @jameswesterman9283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dolphins wound up beating the bills like 23 times in a row

    • @dalegribble1205
      @dalegribble1205 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      20 in a row it's a record that will probably never be broken every single year from 1970-79 Dolphins swept the Bills hard to imagine

    • @brando7266
      @brando7266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, but buffalo is 4-1 v miami in the playoffs,

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Miami had the oranges. But Buffalo 🐃 had the juice!!

  • @inamorata966
    @inamorata966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jim Hart of the Cardinals could play QB. He won't ever be in the HOF, but he could pass and he could run an offense.

    • @charlesbabcock1530
      @charlesbabcock1530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. One of my all-time favorites...

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Don brought the best out in him for sure. He did the same with Fouts. Hart should be in the hall. Along with fouts

    • @inamorata966
      @inamorata966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kylemarzion2814 You are absolutely right about Coryell and his place in the HOF is well-deserved. I also respect your comment as to JH's HOF-worthiness. I probably should not have said he "won't ever" be there. He is on most lists of "QBs who have not . . ." He could get there, no question. But I don't expect to see him inducted in my lifetime (I'm in the autumn of life). After all, Stabler, Plunkett, Brodie, Simms, Anderson and others -- they aren't there yet either. I like your comments. Thank you.

    • @bjchit
      @bjchit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ken Stabler is a Hall of Famer. Brodie and Simms maybe, but the rest are just very good or in Plunkett’s case, lucky.

    • @dennistyler9852
      @dennistyler9852 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cardiac Cards

  • @swisschocolatecake4547
    @swisschocolatecake4547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nfl was better Without multi million dollar contracts

  • @williamriley5118
    @williamriley5118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool!😎😎😎

  • @drbonesshow1
    @drbonesshow1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Cowboys lost this game to the Cards. St. Louis surprisingly won the NFC East, but lost easily to the Rams in the playoffs 35-23 in LA. Then Dallas beats the Rams 37-7 in the Championship.

    • @TDL-xg5nn
      @TDL-xg5nn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn't a surprise since they won the East the year before too.

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cowboy's made it in as a wildcard. With just 4 teams making it in. Cowboy's got it done in the playoffs. Back then it was Dallas and Minnesota that ruled the nfc

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cowboy's made it in as a wildcard. With just 4 teams making it in. Cowboy's got it done it the playoffs. Minnesota and Dallas ruled the NFC IN THE 70S

  • @sportshistorybuff319
    @sportshistorybuff319 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who is more deserving of the HOF? Jim Hart or Kenny Anderson?

  • @michaelcavallacci2945
    @michaelcavallacci2945 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So cool. Brings back so many great memories. Summerall and Brookshire.
    And no fckn flags after every play. The refs let them play football. Pace was much better. Guys weren’t jacked up on roids. No ridiculous pre and postgame shows with 20 analysts half of them women who know nothing about football.

  • @FreddieArnold-o6e
    @FreddieArnold-o6e 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the little young buck who commented on how much football i played i was playing football when the better part of you was running down your daddy s leg.

  • @BobBaker-v9v
    @BobBaker-v9v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sadly the game has changed, and NOT for the good these days

    • @davidmitchell6873
      @davidmitchell6873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back in dem days I would drink five or six martinis and smoke three packs of pall malls during every game.

  • @CaseyLouis
    @CaseyLouis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Back when the players made under $75,000 dollars.

  • @538frostrd
    @538frostrd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't care, politically correct or not. The old Redskins uni's were cool.

  • @waynehall-ge6hq
    @waynehall-ge6hq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such memories!
    That's when football was great, No it's all about me or all that showboat behavior.

  • @ronaldbutler9687
    @ronaldbutler9687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't see hits like any of these.They accidentally hit there own teammate harder back then than they hit the other team.

    • @ronaldbutler9687
      @ronaldbutler9687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In today's game.

    • @ronaldbutler9687
      @ronaldbutler9687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty soon they will be playing without shoulder pads.

  • @jeremy28135
    @jeremy28135 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:11. I would not f*** with that guy. Nope

  • @kevinfriel2858
    @kevinfriel2858 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    '75 VIKINGS THERE ALL ROUND BEST TEAM UP UNTIL THE HAIL MARY GAME LOSS TO A SO CALLED AMERICA'S TEAM (NOT) AND THERE 1998 CHOKE. ME... A LIFE LONG VIKING FAN AND ALWAYS BE.

    • @brucedale7912
      @brucedale7912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bitter…party of one…your table’s ready….

    • @davidmurray5399
      @davidmurray5399 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brucedale7912 I'm not a Vikings fan, but '75 and '98 were epic chokes. Speaking as someone who played the safety position, I agree with Paul Krause in that Pearson did push off on the "Hail Mary" play. No replay or challenges back in those days.

    • @kylemarzion2814
      @kylemarzion2814 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Packers fan here. Yes u got fct. Vkes were great in the 70s. Nothing to show for it. I know u kicked our asses a lot !! Now it would been called interference without a doubt

  • @kbrewski1
    @kbrewski1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the first year I lived in StL as a high schooler. The football Cardinals were a "close but no cigar" franchise. Couldn't win playoff games. Terrible draft history. The Cards would always wear road white instead of home red to force the Cowgirls to wear blue instead of their preferred white.

    • @derricklowe2823
      @derricklowe2823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even though the Cardinals weren't my favorite team, you're correct that they were always so close but couldn't pull off the big win to go to the playoffs. They weren't a sorry team either. They drafted Ottis Anderson and couldn't keep him and he was a pretty good running back. And Terry Metcalf was a great all purpose running back. Quick question. Was there a reason the franchise didn't want the cheerleaders wearing white? I'm curious because that seems odd.

  • @robertmalfy8552
    @robertmalfy8552 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Vikings would be the biggest choke franchise ever if it wasn't for the pathetic buffalo bills franchise

    • @brando7266
      @brando7266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They r both 0-4 in sbs,

    • @oldredbarnman
      @oldredbarnman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brando7266 Well, at least they've been to Super Bowls. Try growing up a Lions' fan!😄😄😄

    • @brando7266
      @brando7266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oldredbarnman but I think the lions have 3 nfl championships, they still count, the packers have the most championships,not the patriots, steelers, the rings that Lombardi won before the sb, count, 😆

    • @oldredbarnman
      @oldredbarnman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@brando7266 They have won 4 NFL Championships, the last one four years before I was born. I never believed in the "Bobby Layne Curse", but the ineptness of the Ford family, who took full ownership of the franchise on Nov. 22 1963.

    • @brando7266
      @brando7266 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oldredbarnman Campbell blew the nfc championship game,,last yr, with his bonehead moves,