It has very recently been proposed to build a high speed line from close to Oslo and close to Göteborg with the last legs in each case on existing track which will bring the city centre to city centre time down to 1hour instead of the current time of 3hours 41 minutes. If funding is approved work will commence in 2024 with completion 2 years later.
@@chairmanapoxy2301 If it happens it'll be a long time. It's fucking crazy that these two cities aren't better connected but Sweden prioritises Stockholm even though Gothenburg is far closer and a natural middle point between Copenhagen and Oslo
Great video again! Regarding coffee machines, Nordic countries are the biggest coffee consumers (per capita) in the world, and Norwegians drink the second most in the world (Finland holding the 1st place). Drinking coffee everywhere is just a part of northern life, and coffee is by default available everywhere you go (on the train, at work, at funerals, etc :))
Not sure what our stats are like for Canada but we also love our coffee over here! I think it's just a part of living in places that have really cold, dark winters.
@@senorsoupe The average annual consumption of coffee in the Nordic countries is around 7 to 9 kg per person per year. As @ana Lämä said, you aren't very far from a coffee machine.
I went in Göteborg this spring and I agree with you: the Central Station structure is very nice and the bus waiting area is well organised with “airport style” gates.
Your comment about the rural parts of the US was interesting. I've noted similarity between barns and other farm structures in Finland and Sweden with those in parts of New York State, New Jersey, Washington State and some parts of New England. Many people from Norway and Sweden immigrated to parts of New York and Washington in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
It wasn't just New York and Washington, either. Many of the immigrants who populated the Midwest were Scandinavian. My family on both sides has heavy German and Scandinavian ancestry, especially my mom's side.
True. The current plans for duble track high-speed rail are only around Oslo, knows as the Intercity-network or the Intercity-Triangle. But no new approved long-distance train lines.
@@dutchbakery2195 That's the reality when the majority of parliament decided that every nook and cranny of the country should be populated. So many billions spent on roads, tunnels, bridges to tiny places with few citizens. In reality they should have spent money on connecting the rail to Europe (faster than today) and reducing travel times between the Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger. The 1 hour cut in travel time for Bergensbanen has been discussed for 30 or so years now, but the current gvt. won't promise building the new project, even though Nye Veier cut 6 billion in costs.
@@cv990a4 Rail travel is good in some ways. A lot of train usage for work commutes, especially around Oslo. But long distance rail in especially Norway is poor, and it's a scandal that there's not a high speed double track line from Norway and down towards the Swedish west coast (and further to Europe). That being said, the Oslo-Bergen line would be the most important to upgrade.
I didn't realize these trains had active tilt! Kind of a cool alternative to the more conventional X2000 configuration though it seems designed for somewhat lighter density routes. As a tilt EMU, this must use a similar setup to the Pendolinos where the Pantograph remains fixed and the carbody tilts around it.
A fun fact about that part of the station is that from 1856 to 1923 it served as a train shed for trains to Gothenburg. You can google if you want images. Another cool aspect is that if you look at the end of the roof beams in the hall, you will see small faces sculptured in the wood. It is said that the sculptures show old politicians from Gothenburg.
I'd recommend a trip from Bodo up in the north (the farthest train station in Norway excluding Narvik which is connected to the Swedish railway) to Trondheim by night train during the summer months of June or July when the Sun doesn't hide behind the horizon. The train crosses the Polar Circle, and the views during the whole trip are excellent.
Frequency isn't the main issue, it's the bloody ticket price. It costs a ludicrous amount of money to take the train. In Norway the price is based on exactly how much it costs to go there by car!
This is propably my favourite trainset in whole of europe. The seats were replaced once, the ones before were comfier imo. It was also one of the first trainsets in europe to offer free wifi. About the connection: it is very common to take the bus between these two cities, also way before flixbus was a thing.
Oh yeah those seats were of the same design as those still used in 2nd class on Øresundståg and their quite similar X31 EMU's between Denmark and Southern Sweden
@@drdewott9154 are you sure? Because i used to take the train from Copenhagen to Oslo and always found Øresundståg to be highly uncomfortable compared to this train:'D
Nice trip report from my country! I agree with the seats, I don't think they're good enough for longer journeys, and it's also a shame they don't offer better on journeys as far as Trondheim (7 hours) and Stavanger (8 hours). There are a few loco hauled trains on these routes though, and some of the carriages are now fitted with new reclining seats, which is probably the best I've ever experienced on a train. And the Oslo-Gothenburg route will get the new class 74 (Stadler FLIRT) from December, but sadly the seats aren't any better there. Another interesting thing is that I think the day you took this train, I was also travelling on the Østfold line and just made the train that went one hour earlier from Sarpsborg. So if I wouldn't have catched that train, I would be on the same train as you ;)
We love our coffee here in the nordic countries thats all. 😁 And you are correct the seats are bad they mite get better in couople decades of use lol. Some older trains like from 80's in Sweden have alot better seats. I gues they just need to be ''sat in'' for some years or something.
Ah, finally! Welcome to Norway, a country with one of the railway systems in the world... ;) The Type 73 is one of my favourites (Mainly due to its cool design and interior), but this is a 73B, which is more like a regional train than a long distance train. The ones driving on our long distance sections are generally nicer with a proper café and everything. The main reason for the poor frequency (and speed) is because of the antiquated Østfold line, which hasn't changed since the late 1800s, but hopefully we will get a higher speed line over the border in the future. BTW: An "easter egg" on the Type 73: It has the signature of its designer, Terje Meyer, cast in the nose cover! Meyer also designed the funky octagonal WLAB2 sleeper cars, as well as many other trains running on the Norwegian network.
Norgebanan är verkligen föråldrad, men Vänerbanan Göteborg-Öxnered är nybyggd och även delar av Östfoldbanan byggs om, så det finns hopp för ökad turtäthet och kortad restid i framtiden :)
For some reason the tracks heading to Bergen, Stavanger, Göteborg, Trondheim, Bodø and Stockholm from Oslo is one tracked (only the Oslo-Stockholm line is one tracked till plugged in the Swedish network). That is kinda stupid, unfortunately that’s the reality😢 While Narvik isn’t even plugged in the Norwegian network as its operator is SJ.
It seems like they have now been replaced on this route by class 74 FLIRT units, originally built for local routes with 2+3 seating but meanwhile rebuilt with more comfortable seats and used on intercity routes.
Heh, Västergötland being flat is why it was so prosperous once upon a time. It’s even flatter NE of Gothenburg towards Skara. In that area there’s also a famous abbey where a bunch of very early Swedish kings are buried, which kinda shows how important that area was.
Great video! Just drove a train up that line to the border with Norway today! Very scenic route! From the cab it is even more beautiful! It can shift between top speed over 160 to 75 in a mere kilometer after the town of Brålanda!😅 Depending om the date of recording, i may have been the one to switch that train into the siding in Ed😁 FYI the VY train has always caused delays for me when I drive, it feels like they are systematically always late😅
Well, in regards to frequency, Oslo and Gothenburg in the grand scheme of things are two rather small metropolitan areas. The model I have, calibrated to the current frequency of routes such as Paris to Lyon, only shows demand for 2 round trips a day between them.
But osla is Norway's biggest, and Gothenburg Sweden's second largest. If you just compare Oslo-Gothenburg to Stockholm-Gothenburg, you'd realize there's a massive difference, not just explained by population difference.
@@thehoogard Nonsense. Please don't make comparisons of large cities with metro population of over 5 million with those with less than 1.5 million. Neither Norway or Sweden have a national population equal to Paris or London. Austin is not Dallas or Houston. Pensacola is not Miami. Peoria is not Chicago. Rochester is not New York City. Fresno is not Los Angeles. Oslo is not London or Paris.Gothenburg is not Berlin or Frankfurt. Large metros can have large airports and train stations with much more frequent services than smaller cities with small airports and train stations with considerably far less services... And oh, by the way, I keep hearing how fast trains are in Europe, yet, this train not running to either Paris or Frankfurt is not true HSR...
Pity that you can't experience the old, comfortable NSB coaches with their bank of seats that you could turn to face your friends or direction of travel. Kick down on a pedal at the side and the whole 2 seat base used to turn 180 degrees. On a more modern NSB coach I had a person behind me constantly tapping that footrest which went right through my seat. Rarely if ever lose my temper and say anything but I asked them to stop.
Not all the seats on Class 73A (those who used to be blue) can be changed. Only the once in BFR and BFM. In class 73B (on this video) you cannot turn any seats.
Awesome video like always! When i was in Norway they explained me that coffee and tea on trains is not only cause it's part of their "cozy" life attitude to make everthing comfortable but also cause with extrem cold it's important to drink more . I was surprised about this healthy reason but i found same on finnish trains.
True. On Swedish trains you have to go to the bistro, but then you get free refills if you purchase coffee once. In 1st class there’s a self-serve snack station and on the national Scandinavian airline SAS only hot drinks like coffee are complementary on short flights.
This summer, there were trains, but replaced by bus between Rygge and Oslo due to construction work in Norway. A couple of days in August, the line was shut due to construction work at several locations.
Extreme cold? Do you have any idea of how big and long this country is? On the west coast they hardly have any snow at all. The distance from the north to Oslo is about the same as Oslo-Rome. So, we fly a lot more (4 times more than the average european). So, the climate zones differ a lot. So, hope this was another «surprise» for you.
@@frodehagen8690 I had the blessing to work in your country for 6 years in Oslo and in our free time we choosed to travel and discover the country in train. So yes i think to have a little idea how diffrent your country is and for sure every single part has it's own beauty. I think it's a waste that mass turism adresses people only in some parts of it. About my comment i wrote what locals explained me.
Well done Simply Railway and for the Class 73 EMU NSB max speed is 210 kmh 130 mph if running on the Oslo Gardermoen Airport Railway line. Voltage is 15kv 16 2/3 hz 1.8 m pantographs
Live in Sweden, Swedish and Norwegian drink very much coffee. At work there is always free coffe, and at restaurants coffee is included in your lunch .
The reason for the coffe machines are partly cultural (people drink a lot of coffee in the Nordic countries) but also economical: As the cost of labour in Norway is high, the company can save a lot of money on serving coffee from a machine instead of in an staffed bistro.
I really lucked out when I rode train from Göteborg to Oslo in 2012. I was disappointed there was no longer a through X2000 between Copenhagen and Oslo but I got a chance to "chew the fat" and talk shop with train crews who allowed me to ride on the head-end with the train driver on the Copenhagen-Göteborg connecting train, thanks to the sweet Swedish conductress. The train leaving Copenhagen in the early morning hours was packed with students so we compared life in Sweden and USA and took pictures together. The nice Conductress on the Oslo train upgraded me to Business Class as soon as I told her I was an Amtrak Conductor and showed her my picture in uniform. Well, that's how we roll on the railroad. The train also had a stunning cafe car I wish I could post here.
These coffee machine across the train remind me of the vending machines on Danish trains and the complementary coffee/tea/still water/fruit area in first class on SJ trains. Damn are Scandinavian trains designed for the thirsty and the peckish.
Ah, this takes me back. I took that same train trip from Göteborg (Gothenburg) to Oslo (pronounced: oosh’-loo) when I once lived just outside of Göteborg. That last stop in Ed, Sweden was one of the most stunning views I had ever seen. ‘Fika’ (coffee break) is an important part of Swedish culture. And the coffee they serve is a thousand times better than the pigswill we get here in the US.
Interesting that you can go by train again on this line... when I wanted to this summer between these two cities, there weren't ANY trains, only busses... I've been told that they're doing construction works on the line every summer, so there might be a higher frequency and maybe also better service once they are done with that! I'm really glad I now got to see how my ride would have been if the trains would have been operating!
I mean it doesn't matter much anyway. Heck VY operates both trains and buses between Oslo and Gothenburg (with buses going all the way to Copenhagen directly as well) and the buses are actually faster than the trains on this route! Simply because the Norwegian government has been neglecting its railways, and especially cross border connections for a long time. Its all a matter of politics. Like you hear about how Norway has a ton of electric cars all the time but that has come from political will at the expense of the railways.
How good that the Swedish and Norwegian still have their crowns. In a few months or even weeks it'll be cheeper for all € citizens to move to Sweden or Norway.
10:08 - It amazes me that so many people get confused by Adtranz/ABB "open door" buttons. They use an IR sensor that is pointed from the ceiling towards the black oval on the door. If you reach for the oval with your hand, it will open before you touch the door. No need to wave you hand towards the sensor in the ceiling. 🤣 Same "button" is found on the Swedish/Danish Öresundstog X31K trainset too.
That is the theory anyways. More than once reaching for the black oval does "nothing". Thus you have to raise your hand towards the ceiling sensor until it opens. Having done that so many times over hundreds of train rides - I go straight for the ceiling, every time.
all the new train in norway has a vending machine. I remembered I was soaking wet after waiting for the train home after work and went to buy hot chocolate.. the conductor on the train used his money and gave me one for free :) And if you choose the reserved seat the comfort are way much better.. Always do that on long train ride =)
Great video- there are three versions of this train- the Class 71 (Flytoget high density airport express- three cars upgraded to four), Class 73a series (InterCity four car, with restaurant and child play area) and Class 73b (Regional four car with no restaurant, but coffee machines every two paces). You can guess what you had. The 73a were originally all 1st class luxury trains- I went on one in this original format on the Bergen line and it blew me away. The Signature service was not a success though. I have gone done the Dovre line on a 73a and didn't find the seats too bad, and the space is still all first class style- they have a really relaxing ambiance. The wood panelling is really classy and there are even hypoallergenic floor areas (believe it or not). Did you spot that there is only one set of doors per coach, but that there is a space for a second door? This has been turned into a little panorama section, with seats towards an enlarged window. I think it looked like the 73b series had them too. It is weird that the service isn't used very much, though I think the line between Norway and Sweden has been closed alot for rebuilding and that may have put people off?
2:30 nice video, thing is Norway is unfortunatelly stuck in railway building (like even major project which was Intercity trains) is being so delayed and cutted out, but maybe Oslo and Halden (border with sweden) will be connected with high speed train by 2034 + Sweden is not intrested really to build higher speed train towards Oslo from Gøteborg (Gothenburg), mostly because Norway doesn't want to fix main connection line Lillestrøm - Kongsvinger - Border against Sweden towards Stockholm (Too low local traffic). Norway and building new railways isn't working well together. About trains, there are new trains on the way (from 2025 or 26 i think), especially for longer trips and that train towards Gøteborg (which is not counted as a long distance one - but only as a regiontrain).
Today these - or their sister 73A - take an hour longer to travel between Trondheim and Oslo than they did on their introduction. They were always meant as a rather simple but fast replacment for hauled trains with proper comfort. Something they failed to achieve. To me they are a symbol of what is wrong with the current state of our railways in Norway.
That is a problem with the infrastructure, and not the train itself. Single track line gives you those kind of issues. If there was double track between all the big cities in Norway, travel times would be far shorter.
This is actually one of my all time favorite trains around the world. The rolling stock is simple, clean, tough enough to endure winter, low to the ground for easy boarding at outlying Stations, and the smooth ride quality is outstanding even on substantially older track and roadbed than what is typical of EU standards.
I heard they withdrew these units from the Bergen line and replaced them by locomotive hauled trains because there can be snowslides/snowdrifts and it's better to drive a heavy locomotive with a big snowplow into those.
@@uncinarynin Correct- I think there was a worry that the snow could get under the plough and lift up the front wheels. I did go on a 73a when it was running a Signature service on the Bergen line when new. I only went Bergen to Mydal though.
I like the videos, like the other ones (they all are quite good in fact!), but the gestures that you make in 11:58, they really does not fit with you: you are silent (you don't talk), curious (you always search or ask for explainations), open-minded (you like to visit places and cultures)... You are, simply, elegant. Ne te baisse pas à ce niveau là, I think that this kind of little detail makes the difference describing the person that you are. But that's only my opinion, in the end. Great work, and thanks for making us travel again!
The tricky table, norwegian pricing, non-working french debit card and finally the non-working hand-dryer…it was just too much😂 It’s human. Great video, though!
I actually think the seats are pretty good for being so slim. Sadly these trains will be replaced on this line in 2023 with the Bm74. A Regional Stadler flirt, the same as MTRX uses… No tilt and even worse seats.
The rude gesture of giving the hand dryer the finger multiple times seemed oddly out of character from the usual family-friendly remainder of your videos. But thank you for the content.
Bonjour, merci très bien fait. Its not very quick nearly 4 hours for such a short distance and the seats look like ironing boards. The TGV est does a much greater distance in 55 mins, just as well the scenery’s nice.
Unfortunately neither Norway or Sweden have a national population as large as Paris' metro... I wonder, do all of the HSR TGV trains in France serve Paris? Is there one HSR TGV train that doesn't serve Paris?
Looked like a good but not spectacular service. But the scenery was fantastic. Interesting point about rural Sweden and the US being similar, which is not surprising given the high number of Swedish and German immigrants to the US.
It has very recently been proposed to build a high speed line from close to Oslo and close to Göteborg with the last legs in each case on existing track which will bring the city centre to city centre time down to 1hour instead of the current time of 3hours 41 minutes. If funding is approved work will commence in 2024 with completion 2 years later.
what's the status now?
@@chairmanapoxy2301 If it happens it'll be a long time. It's fucking crazy that these two cities aren't better connected but Sweden prioritises Stockholm even though Gothenburg is far closer and a natural middle point between Copenhagen and Oslo
4:16 that X2000 was actually renovated with a new interior
4:06 That is the new refurbished X2000 which is very cool. It was launched in 2021.
Great video again! Regarding coffee machines, Nordic countries are the biggest coffee consumers (per capita) in the world, and Norwegians drink the second most in the world (Finland holding the 1st place). Drinking coffee everywhere is just a part of northern life, and coffee is by default available everywhere you go (on the train, at work, at funerals, etc :))
Not sure what our stats are like for Canada but we also love our coffee over here! I think it's just a part of living in places that have really cold, dark winters.
@@senorsoupe The average annual consumption of coffee in the Nordic countries is around 7 to 9 kg per person per year. As @ana Lämä said, you aren't very far from a coffee machine.
Always think people don’t drink coffee because they love it but it’s a habit
Norway drinks a ton of coffee for sure.
@@s125ish I definitely drink coffee because I love it, but I agree, plenty drink it out of habit or for the caffeine.
I went in Göteborg this spring and I agree with you: the Central Station structure is very nice and the bus waiting area is well organised with “airport style” gates.
Your comment about the rural parts of the US was interesting. I've noted similarity between barns and other farm structures in Finland and Sweden with those in parts of New York State, New Jersey, Washington State and some parts of New England. Many people from Norway and Sweden immigrated to parts of New York and Washington in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
The Swedish part looked like Midwest to me. And once you got into Norway and started to look a little like the Pacific Northwest.
It wasn't just New York and Washington, either. Many of the immigrants who populated the Midwest were Scandinavian. My family on both sides has heavy German and Scandinavian ancestry, especially my mom's side.
It's sad how trains and rail in Norway have been neglected for so long.
True. The current plans for duble track high-speed rail are only around Oslo, knows as the Intercity-network or the Intercity-Triangle. But no new approved long-distance train lines.
*laughs in United States* 😭
@@dutchbakery2195 That's the reality when the majority of parliament decided that every nook and cranny of the country should be populated. So many billions spent on roads, tunnels, bridges to tiny places with few citizens. In reality they should have spent money on connecting the rail to Europe (faster than today) and reducing travel times between the Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger.
The 1 hour cut in travel time for Bergensbanen has been discussed for 30 or so years now, but the current gvt. won't promise building the new project, even though Nye Veier cut 6 billion in costs.
Rail travel is surprisingly, even embarrassingly slow in the Scandinavian countries, especially between countries, agreed.
@@cv990a4 Rail travel is good in some ways. A lot of train usage for work commutes, especially around Oslo. But long distance rail in especially Norway is poor, and it's a scandal that there's not a high speed double track line from Norway and down towards the Swedish west coast (and further to Europe).
That being said, the Oslo-Bergen line would be the most important to upgrade.
I didn't realize these trains had active tilt! Kind of a cool alternative to the more conventional X2000 configuration though it seems designed for somewhat lighter density routes. As a tilt EMU, this must use a similar setup to the Pendolinos where the Pantograph remains fixed and the carbody tilts around it.
The pantograph has its own tilting mechanism that tilts the opposite way of the carbody to cancel it out and stay flat.
A fun fact about that part of the station is that from 1856 to 1923 it served as a train shed for trains to Gothenburg. You can google if you want images. Another cool aspect is that if you look at the end of the roof beams in the hall, you will see small faces sculptured in the wood. It is said that the sculptures show old politicians from Gothenburg.
I'd recommend a trip from Bodo up in the north (the farthest train station in Norway excluding Narvik which is connected to the Swedish railway) to Trondheim by night train during the summer months of June or July when the Sun doesn't hide behind the horizon.
The train crosses the Polar Circle, and the views during the whole trip are excellent.
Frequency isn't the main issue, it's the bloody ticket price. It costs a ludicrous amount of money to take the train. In Norway the price is based on exactly how much it costs to go there by car!
The X2000 you saw in Gothenburg has a totally new interior, hence the different look of it. You have to test it, it’s top class!
The x2000 You show in the beginning is one of the First rebuilt! They are very nice to ride!
This is propably my favourite trainset in whole of europe. The seats were replaced once, the ones before were comfier imo. It was also one of the first trainsets in europe to offer free wifi.
About the connection: it is very common to take the bus between these two cities, also way before flixbus was a thing.
It's always the older seats that are more comfortable... :(
@@walterclements7968 Haha that's true. They were also in a dark red which made the whole train much comfier.
Oh yeah those seats were of the same design as those still used in 2nd class on Øresundståg and their quite similar X31 EMU's between Denmark and Southern Sweden
@@drdewott9154 are you sure? Because i used to take the train from Copenhagen to Oslo and always found Øresundståg to be highly uncomfortable compared to this train:'D
@@walterclements7968 not true for SJ’s new X 2000s though :)
greatly anticipated this video. great job!
Nice trip report from my country! I agree with the seats, I don't think they're good enough for longer journeys, and it's also a shame they don't offer better on journeys as far as Trondheim (7 hours) and Stavanger (8 hours). There are a few loco hauled trains on these routes though, and some of the carriages are now fitted with new reclining seats, which is probably the best I've ever experienced on a train. And the Oslo-Gothenburg route will get the new class 74 (Stadler FLIRT) from December, but sadly the seats aren't any better there. Another interesting thing is that I think the day you took this train, I was also travelling on the Østfold line and just made the train that went one hour earlier from Sarpsborg. So if I wouldn't have catched that train, I would be on the same train as you ;)
Will you be taking the train from Oslo to Bergen afterwards? IIRC that's supposed to be one of the most beautiful routes in the world
12:02 hey man child down it's just an dryer
As always another great video !!
We love our coffee here in the nordic countries thats all. 😁 And you are correct the seats are bad they mite get better in couople decades of use lol. Some older trains like from 80's in Sweden have alot better seats. I gues they just need to be ''sat in'' for some years or something.
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Oh I lol'd at your response to the dryer!!! Great vid.
You flipping off the hand dryer was better than the $800 check I received today 😂😂😂
I prefer paper towels... Hair dryers are very noisy...
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Ah, finally! Welcome to Norway, a country with one of the railway systems in the world... ;) The Type 73 is one of my favourites (Mainly due to its cool design and interior), but this is a 73B, which is more like a regional train than a long distance train. The ones driving on our long distance sections are generally nicer with a proper café and everything. The main reason for the poor frequency (and speed) is because of the antiquated Østfold line, which hasn't changed since the late 1800s, but hopefully we will get a higher speed line over the border in the future.
BTW: An "easter egg" on the Type 73: It has the signature of its designer, Terje Meyer, cast in the nose cover! Meyer also designed the funky octagonal WLAB2 sleeper cars, as well as many other trains running on the Norwegian network.
Norgebanan är verkligen föråldrad, men Vänerbanan Göteborg-Öxnered är nybyggd och även delar av Östfoldbanan byggs om, så det finns hopp för ökad turtäthet och kortad restid i framtiden :)
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For some reason the tracks heading to Bergen, Stavanger, Göteborg, Trondheim, Bodø and Stockholm from Oslo is one tracked (only the Oslo-Stockholm line is one tracked till plugged in the Swedish network). That is kinda stupid, unfortunately that’s the reality😢
While Narvik isn’t even plugged in the Norwegian network as its operator is SJ.
Great trip report
6:16 apart from having decent passenger rail and public transport via buses ;D
I hope we'll see more videos from Norway, soon
It seems like they have now been replaced on this route by class 74 FLIRT units, originally built for local routes with 2+3 seating but meanwhile rebuilt with more comfortable seats and used on intercity routes.
Heh, Västergötland being flat is why it was so prosperous once upon a time. It’s even flatter NE of Gothenburg towards Skara. In that area there’s also a famous abbey where a bunch of very early Swedish kings are buried, which kinda shows how important that area was.
Thanks for the ride !!! 🇺🇾
Great video! Just drove a train up that line to the border with Norway today! Very scenic route! From the cab it is even more beautiful! It can shift between top speed over 160 to 75 in a mere kilometer after the town of Brålanda!😅 Depending om the date of recording, i may have been the one to switch that train into the siding in Ed😁 FYI the VY train has always caused delays for me when I drive, it feels like they are systematically always late😅
Well, in regards to frequency, Oslo and Gothenburg in the grand scheme of things are two rather small metropolitan areas. The model I have, calibrated to the current frequency of routes such as Paris to Lyon, only shows demand for 2 round trips a day between them.
But osla is Norway's biggest, and Gothenburg Sweden's second largest. If you just compare Oslo-Gothenburg to Stockholm-Gothenburg, you'd realize there's a massive difference, not just explained by population difference.
@@thehoogard Nonsense. Please don't make comparisons of large cities with metro population of over 5 million with those with less than 1.5 million. Neither Norway or Sweden have a national population equal to Paris or London. Austin is not Dallas or Houston. Pensacola is not Miami. Peoria is not Chicago. Rochester is not New York City. Fresno is not Los Angeles. Oslo is not London or Paris.Gothenburg is not Berlin or Frankfurt. Large metros can have large airports and train stations with much more frequent services than smaller cities with small airports and train stations with considerably far less services... And oh, by the way, I keep hearing how fast trains are in Europe, yet, this train not running to either Paris or Frankfurt is not true HSR...
Pity that you can't experience the old, comfortable NSB coaches with their bank of seats that you could turn to face your friends or direction of travel. Kick down on a pedal at the side and the whole 2 seat base used to turn 180 degrees.
On a more modern NSB coach I had a person behind me constantly tapping that footrest which went right through my seat. Rarely if ever lose my temper and say anything but I asked them to stop.
Not all the seats on Class 73A (those who used to be blue) can be changed. Only the once in BFR and BFM. In class 73B (on this video) you cannot turn any seats.
@@PanAmKim I'm talking about the old loco hauled coaches Kim not multiple units.
The rolling stock on that route is called Type 73. BM73 is the carriage at the front, seen at 2:30.
Would love to go to Norway.On my bucket list.
Awesome video like always! When i was in Norway they explained me that coffee and tea on trains is not only cause it's part of their "cozy" life attitude to make everthing comfortable but also cause with extrem cold it's important to drink more . I was surprised about this healthy reason but i found same on finnish trains.
True. On Swedish trains you have to go to the bistro, but then you get free refills if you purchase coffee once. In 1st class there’s a self-serve snack station and on the national Scandinavian airline SAS only hot drinks like coffee are complementary on short flights.
This summer, there were trains, but replaced by bus between Rygge and Oslo due to construction work in Norway. A couple of days in August, the line was shut due to construction work at several locations.
Extreme cold? Do you have any idea of how big and long this country is? On the west coast they hardly have any snow at all. The distance from the north to Oslo is about the same as Oslo-Rome. So, we fly a lot more (4 times more than the average european). So, the climate zones differ a lot. So, hope this was another «surprise» for you.
The answer was for Rosy Rose
@@frodehagen8690 I had the blessing to work in your country for 6 years in Oslo and in our free time we choosed to travel and discover the country in train. So yes i think to have a little idea how diffrent your country is and for sure every single part has it's own beauty. I think it's a waste that mass turism adresses people only in some parts of it. About my comment i wrote what locals explained me.
Well done Simply Railway and for the Class 73 EMU NSB max speed is 210 kmh 130 mph if running on the Oslo Gardermoen Airport Railway line. Voltage is 15kv 16 2/3 hz 1.8 m pantographs
Flipping the bird twice at the broken hand dryer cracked me up.
Live in Sweden, Swedish and Norwegian drink very much coffee. At work there is always free coffe, and at restaurants coffee is included in your lunch .
The reason for the coffe machines are partly cultural (people drink a lot of coffee in the Nordic countries) but also economical: As the cost of labour in Norway is high, the company can save a lot of money on serving coffee from a machine instead of in an staffed bistro.
👍🏻🏴 Thank you for your video.
I like The Norwegian 'toptrain'...very good Comfort 1 class...I miss Norway, I worked there, six years...🇸🇪🇧🇻
Nice video! Beautiful scenery! Seats looked stiff and uncomfortable.
Thanks Thibault😀😀💚
Nice video! I am in Gothenburg right now. I've been to the Central Station and caught the train to Oslo leaving. 🙂
I really lucked out when I rode train from Göteborg to Oslo in 2012. I was disappointed there was no longer a through X2000 between Copenhagen and Oslo but I got a chance to "chew the fat" and talk shop with train crews who allowed me to ride on the head-end with the train driver on the Copenhagen-Göteborg connecting train, thanks to the sweet Swedish conductress.
The train leaving Copenhagen in the early morning hours was packed with students so we compared life in Sweden and USA and took pictures together. The nice Conductress on the Oslo train upgraded me to Business Class as soon as I told her I was an Amtrak Conductor and showed her my picture in uniform. Well, that's how we roll on the railroad. The train also had a stunning cafe car I wish I could post here.
Yes whatever happened to the high speed train Oslo - Copenhagen?
@@macjonte It was cancelled apparently due to low ridership.
Nice trip report. This route stops in my hometown Fredrikstad.
These coffee machine across the train remind me of the vending machines on Danish trains and the complementary coffee/tea/still water/fruit area in first class on SJ trains. Damn are Scandinavian trains designed for the thirsty and the peckish.
Ah, this takes me back. I took that same train trip from Göteborg (Gothenburg) to Oslo (pronounced: oosh’-loo) when I once lived just outside of Göteborg. That last stop in Ed, Sweden was one of the most stunning views I had ever seen. ‘Fika’ (coffee break) is an important part of Swedish culture. And the coffee they serve is a thousand times better than the pigswill we get here in the US.
Very interesting once again with such incredible backdrop and amazing scenery 😍
that's a real funny looking train. reminds me of the funky ones in the Netherlands almost with its oversized head/face
It looks more like the original 90s versions of the italian ETR500, with only 3kv
I'm half Swedish half Norwegian, thank you for this. Hope you enjoyed both sides of the border! 🙂
wow nice place and beautiful trip
Nice video
NICE TRAIN
Indian here Really a great experience such a smooth video , somehow I love Nordic countries more, and I like Benelux region too.
Who wants to sit on a board hard seat for hours? A comfortable seat is literally the most important feature for most of us travelling. Come on people!
Interesting that you can go by train again on this line... when I wanted to this summer between these two cities, there weren't ANY trains, only busses... I've been told that they're doing construction works on the line every summer, so there might be a higher frequency and maybe also better service once they are done with that! I'm really glad I now got to see how my ride would have been if the trains would have been operating!
I mean it doesn't matter much anyway. Heck VY operates both trains and buses between Oslo and Gothenburg (with buses going all the way to Copenhagen directly as well) and the buses are actually faster than the trains on this route! Simply because the Norwegian government has been neglecting its railways, and especially cross border connections for a long time. Its all a matter of politics. Like you hear about how Norway has a ton of electric cars all the time but that has come from political will at the expense of the railways.
You´ve managed to catch the very recentl updated and renovated X2000. Looking forward to try her!
Hand dryer ❌ 🖕🏻 I just died laughing 😂
How good that the Swedish and Norwegian still have their crowns. In a few months or even weeks it'll be cheeper for all € citizens to move to Sweden or Norway.
Been there, done that. Great trip 😎
10:08 - It amazes me that so many people get confused by Adtranz/ABB "open door" buttons. They use an IR sensor that is pointed from the ceiling towards the black oval on the door. If you reach for the oval with your hand, it will open before you touch the door. No need to wave you hand towards the sensor in the ceiling. 🤣 Same "button" is found on the Swedish/Danish Öresundstog X31K trainset too.
That is the theory anyways. More than once reaching for the black oval does "nothing". Thus you have to raise your hand towards the ceiling sensor until it opens.
Having done that so many times over hundreds of train rides - I go straight for the ceiling, every time.
refurbished in haarlem the netherlands.. as a proud haarlemmer i can say.. looks nice!
Great trip, the train design looks unique. And the windshield of the train remind me about Airbus A350.
all the new train in norway has a vending machine. I remembered I was soaking wet after waiting for the train home after work and went to buy hot chocolate.. the conductor on the train used his money and gave me one for free :)
And if you choose the reserved seat the comfort are way much better.. Always do that on long train ride =)
Thank you for showing a train from norway finaly
Great video- there are three versions of this train- the Class 71 (Flytoget high density airport express- three cars upgraded to four), Class 73a series (InterCity four car, with restaurant and child play area) and Class 73b (Regional four car with no restaurant, but coffee machines every two paces). You can guess what you had. The 73a were originally all 1st class luxury trains- I went on one in this original format on the Bergen line and it blew me away. The Signature service was not a success though. I have gone done the Dovre line on a 73a and didn't find the seats too bad, and the space is still all first class style- they have a really relaxing ambiance. The wood panelling is really classy and there are even hypoallergenic floor areas (believe it or not). Did you spot that there is only one set of doors per coach, but that there is a space for a second door? This has been turned into a little panorama section, with seats towards an enlarged window. I think it looked like the 73b series had them too. It is weird that the service isn't used very much, though I think the line between Norway and Sweden has been closed alot for rebuilding and that may have put people off?
2:30 nice video, thing is Norway is unfortunatelly stuck in railway building (like even major project which was Intercity trains) is being so delayed and cutted out, but maybe Oslo and Halden (border with sweden) will be connected with high speed train by 2034 + Sweden is not intrested really to build higher speed train towards Oslo from Gøteborg (Gothenburg), mostly because Norway doesn't want to fix main connection line Lillestrøm - Kongsvinger - Border against Sweden towards Stockholm (Too low local traffic). Norway and building new railways isn't working well together.
About trains, there are new trains on the way (from 2025 or 26 i think), especially for longer trips and that train towards Gøteborg (which is not counted as a long distance one - but only as a regiontrain).
Less than four hours is not a long distance train. Long distance trains go a day or more, not a few hours...
Today these - or their sister 73A - take an hour longer to travel between Trondheim and Oslo than they did on their introduction. They were always meant as a rather simple but fast replacment for hauled trains with proper comfort. Something they failed to achieve. To me they are a symbol of what is wrong with the current state of our railways in Norway.
That is a problem with the infrastructure, and not the train itself. Single track line gives you those kind of issues. If there was double track between all the big cities in Norway, travel times would be far shorter.
... and the passengers have stopped puking because of train sickness ;-)
Semuanya stasiun terminus , tapi itu perjalanan, pemandangan, kereta yang bagus
Muito lindo trem gostei simply
Super wycieczka też bym tak chciał muszę to spróbować chyba inspiracja super super
This is actually one of my all time favorite trains around the world. The rolling stock is simple, clean, tough enough to endure winter, low to the ground for easy boarding at outlying Stations, and the smooth ride quality is outstanding even on substantially older track and roadbed than what is typical of EU standards.
I heard they withdrew these units from the Bergen line and replaced them by locomotive hauled trains because there can be snowslides/snowdrifts and it's better to drive a heavy locomotive with a big snowplow into those.
@@uncinarynin Correct- I think there was a worry that the snow could get under the plough and lift up the front wheels. I did go on a 73a when it was running a Signature service on the Bergen line when new. I only went Bergen to Mydal though.
I like the videos, like the other ones (they all are quite good in fact!), but the gestures that you make in 11:58, they really does not fit with you: you are silent (you don't talk), curious (you always search or ask for explainations), open-minded (you like to visit places and cultures)... You are, simply, elegant. Ne te baisse pas à ce niveau là, I think that this kind of little detail makes the difference describing the person that you are. But that's only my opinion, in the end. Great work, and thanks for making us travel again!
The tricky table, norwegian pricing, non-working french debit card and finally the non-working hand-dryer…it was just too much😂 It’s human. Great video, though!
I actually think the seats are pretty good for being so slim. Sadly these trains will be replaced on this line in 2023 with the Bm74. A Regional Stadler flirt, the same as MTRX uses… No tilt and even worse seats.
Why is it that new seats are a always literal downgrade from their predecessors? It just doesn't make any sense to me
The rude gesture of giving the hand dryer the finger multiple times seemed oddly out of character from the usual family-friendly remainder of your videos. But thank you for the content.
Will you ever check out "Sørtoget" from Stavanger to Oslo?
Yeah, Gothenburg C is nice!
The seats would discourage me. Really like the availability of the coffee but I would bring my own snacks!
Nice Video
Vy is the National rail carrer for Norway now I don’t has an answer so ye and the paintwork is simple and cooler
also the flytoget uses a modified Version of this train to the airport
Fun fact: that is actually Swedens/Norways fastest train at 210 kmh (i think)
You didn’t take the train from Narvik to Stockholm? A 20 hour long ride that is beautiful, at least the first part:)
Crazy your train trip between countries is a shorter distance than between the the city I live in and the provincial capital.
Trollhatten! The makers of Saabs used to be referred to as the "trolls from Trollhatten".
Excelente trabalho
parabéns
what are the door-like things with a big window that stay closed?
Great video! At 4:05 a newly refurbished X2000 is seen. Are you going to make a trip report on one anytime soon?
Yes sir !
Flipping off the hairdryer. A top travel video moment.
It’s relatable
I take it that you'll be trying the Flåm line then from Myrdal off the Bergen line? More routes for stunning scenery. 😊
Bonjour, merci très bien fait. Its not very quick nearly 4 hours for such a short distance and the seats look like ironing boards. The TGV est does a much greater distance in 55 mins, just as well the scenery’s nice.
Unfortunately neither Norway or Sweden have a national population as large as Paris' metro... I wonder, do all of the HSR TGV trains in France serve Paris? Is there one HSR TGV train that doesn't serve Paris?
Type 71 does have four carriages now.
Nice trip. Did you go there on an interrail pass?
I did not
Sometimes they use bm 70 and sometimes bm 73, bm 70 have better seats
Looked like a good but not spectacular service. But the scenery was fantastic. Interesting point about rural Sweden and the US being similar, which is not surprising given the high number of Swedish and German immigrants to the US.
How much does it cost?
You had me 😂😂 when you try to opne the table,it does complicated
Nice visuals, but a lack of explanation due to the over-lapping onscreen captions.
The front of the train reminds me of a Capybara lol.
It has a kind of Shinkansen vibe to me. Something with the "shoulder lines".
Profanity! Scandalous! 😱😱😱 - 😉