what you all together do is so inspiring to all women in this world. there is so much courage. I have great respect for it! The World needs more Rachel's ! 💚
I have been a paramedic for 14 years if it makes them happy I don't see why women can't feel apart of hatzolah so be it let them have fun I'm all for it god bless
I'm against the whole men women separation. As a full time 911 EMS provider I understand how important the collaboration of both genders are stoppp fighting like it's a genders warrr...
Your movie is extremely difficult to find a copy of. Please release it wider on Digital Release (Google Play and all) or get it on a Streaming service like "One of Us" was. It will help more people find it and see it!
So you’ve got it all wrong.... This organization was about filling a need in our community. It wasn’t about empowering women. We feel empowered enough. This is the big misconception out there. We are happy with our role of running our homes. Is that really archaic?? Plenty women are professionals as well. We don’t Need to do all the stuff men do in the synogogue, because women are created spiritually stronger. We don’t need it. Any woman who is envious of what men do. Is like someone who envy’s a diabetic who takes insulin. And just so you know the men are envious of us women sometimes that we can sleep late and not always have to go early to the synogogue. Especially in winter weather 😉 The fact that women couldn’t join Hatzolah was purely political, nothing to do with religion . Sadly there are immature men in the organization that waged war on that. As you see in the previous comment. But it was for the best. We are happier being an independent organization. And we NEVER compared ourselves to the ‘back of the bus’ for the Blacks. Because that is the furthest from the truth! Women are highly regarded in our religion. It is the Woman the mother who determines if a child is Jewish. For years there was misconceptions, now with social media, there is more access to hear the truth. With time it will be clarified.
So I finally got to see the documentary on PBS. Almost a year after I made this comment. Let me just say, I was very impressed, even proud of what has been accomplished by Ruchie Frier and the rest of the team. Though I was very much saddened to see what happened to Mrs. Lerner. I'm not sure if you are some supporter or possibly Ruchie Frier herself. But I'm very sorry you simply can not honestly tell me it was not about empowerment! Sure it filled a need as seen by Mrs. Frier, Mrs. Lerner and some members of the community but clearly most were happy keeping things the way they were, no matter how legitimate and logical this need was. Actually there is no way Mrs Frier because although she had to take to the community to show that she was not feminist, she and others made numerous statements about how if a man can do it then a woman can, numerous comments about women's empowerment and breaking the glass ceiling (although she made clear not when it comes to religious practice). "The worst thing to tell me is that I can't do something because I'm a woman or a religious woman" and she clearly says that "any profession or extra schooling is discouraged" in the hasidic world. All the opposition shows this very clearly. She complained that Hatzolah did not think women were fast enough, strong enough, or strong enough. "and I think we are" It's very clear that Ruchie was not happy just remaining a secretary and a balabusta and wanted to advance "so maybe you feel "happy with our role of running our homes. Is that really archaic??" but clearly she and many of the others that were interviewed do NOT feel that way! Don't fool yourself. And yes that is Archaic. Not all men or women fit in a box, not all women even 100 years ago wanted to have their role as homemakers and all the more so today, it is archaic defining roles for each gender that they are expected to fit in to. People should be allowed to follow their dreams. But forget that it's your choice to believe what you wish, but you can't go and deny the obvious about Ruchie and claim she was already empowered enough running their homes. Then you are delusional.Oh and by the way the director of the film herself says "The film is about women's empowerment"! and "whether or no she puts that label (feminist) on herself, what she's doing - her actions are feminist" That said I completely understand why Ruchie could not label herself a feminist. She was fighting a battle as it was the last thing she needed to do was commit suicide of her organization and her standing in the community by announcing to Boro Park that she was a feminist! I send her and the entire organization my best wishes, though I do wish that as this becomes more accepted in the community Mrs. Lerner will be welcome back and the organization will become a bit more democratic (though again, I'm not judging, I understand why she did what she did, again she risked everything for this and did not want to commit this sort of suicide).
Don't want to get sidetracked but your claim of women being spiritually stronger so therefore they don't need all the roles that men have is ridiculous. Imagine someone telling Susan B. Anthony that women are better so what to we need to enter politics or have the right to vote for? Seriously would anyone buy that? Maybe back then. It's very nice that the Rabbis came up with some clever ways to keep women happy and accepting of their lot, but anyone who uses their brains can see beyond that. I know they also have explanations for why men say "lo asani isha" but if you look at the reality and not the PR, you begin to understand quickly. It's perfectly fine if you feel you don't want any of the primary roles in Judaism, In the synagogue (outside of the home) even if this is how you have been conditioned to believe, but you don't have a right to say everyone feels that way. There may be some men who would rather sleep late but the majority would not want to lose the power they have as both deciders and learners and carrying out all the Jewish roles in the synagogue, yeshiva etc. I don't fault the Rabbi's thousands of years ago for setting up things as they did, because that was the reality for women in most or maybe even all cultures back then. But I wish people today would use their saichel (minds) and be honest about the reality (even if they feel it's wrong to change). Oh and women not joining Hatzala was not at all entirely political. It came from the Psak of a number of promnent Rabbis "gedolay hador" and it reflects the religious and cultural attitudes that are so deep in the chasidic community. You sit at the back of the shul (or the side or upstairs, in some cases in what can be seen as resembling a chicken coop, but I am not saying this is usually the case, just that I have been there and seen this myself on multiple occasions) In Israel there were charedi buses in which the women literally did sit at the back of the bus and god help those women who refused, they were often attacked by the charedi men (yea very tsnius). luckily the Israeli courts ended this practice, at least officially.. It's very nice and also very logical why the child's Jewishness would be determined by the mother especially in times when men had multiple wives and other arrangements. But that does not change women's secondary role in Judaism. I accept this, I don't even fight to change this or take on new roles as some women have done, but at least I can be honest and admit it.
@@lulolancy The spiritual reason is not because of modesty. If the issue we're simply modesty, then single unmarried women would be required to cover their hair too which is not the case. So the real answer will surprise you. When a couple gets married, they become spiritually uplifted so that they begin to project a spiritual aura from their hair. Some might call it a Halo that can only be seen by spiritually deep people today. Very few can see this Halo because our world is in a state of severe spiritual decay. Now married women have this Halo all the time so that they must cover their hair all the time so that this Halo can only be shared with their husbands. Married men who are at a spiritually lower level only project this Halo when they are standing before G-d in prayer. At that time a Married man covers his hair with a large Tallit, prayer shawl with fringes on all four corners. This is specifically done when a Man is praying the 18 benedictions. So you see, men also must cover their hair but only when they have a Halo while praying. Because Men are at a lower level, unlike women they do not need to cover their hair all the time. I bet you were unprepared for this answer. So ask before assuming that you know better next time.
I find it strange that the women claim that hatzala don't accept women to voulentior in the organization. in Israel there are many women who voulentior for hatzala orthodox jewish, secular and Muslim women as well. is the hatzala policy different in America?
On the one hand, this is empowerment of women, (which is normally frowned on in this community, which is evident in at least one of the current 8 comments below) on the other hand, this is a reflection of a community which does not allow women in these roles (in the mainstream Hatzola organization). Sadly not only do the women call their organization the equivalent of "back section of the bus for Blacks in the 1950's" (literally Ezras Nashim=Women sections where they are allowed to pray privately and watch as men do everything in the synagogue) but in both examples women are shown at home cooking when they get the call, and one of them is just so happy that the husband is willing to look after his own kids when they go on a call. So is this about empowerment of women, or enhancing these archaic modesty rules which work against women and humanity?
"Hatzolah" which is the Jewish communities Volunteer Ambulance Corp, is an all male organization, so when a call comes in to "Hatzolah" to respond to an emergency where a women is giving birth unexpectedly at home, or a scenario like that, the person responding to the call whether it be an EMT or Paramedic, it's going to be a man not a woman. To make it more comfortable to the person experiencing an emergency they created "Ezras Nushim" where its only female emergency responders.
Stop with your BS fake show, let me tell you something, stay home be a good soccer mom, Do what you do best, grab a creamy latte, and make sure you'll fit in, into yoga pants by tomorrow, let the man go out to save lives, it worked perfectly fine till now!
You continue doing what you do best, watching you tube videos, making dumb comments, all from the safety of your computer. There is obviously a need for female EMT's in the frum community, which you would know if you cared to ask a woman.
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what you all together do is so inspiring to all women in this world. there is so much courage. I have great respect for it! The World needs more Rachel's ! 💚
I have been a paramedic for 14 years if it makes them happy I don't see why women can't feel apart of hatzolah so be it let them have fun I'm all for it god bless
You're filling a need. And your empowering. Keep going!
wonderful presentation, shabbat shalom everyone
why doesn't every Community have this we need more branches of ezras nashim in other communities
I'm against the whole men women separation. As a full time 911 EMS provider I understand how important the collaboration of both genders are stoppp fighting like it's a genders warrr...
Nobody I know cooks in their best wig!
Yes the policy is different in Israel...
Wow.... Such Hate..... Such inner turmoil..... Such Soul confusion...
Yes, we will respond....
Your movie is extremely difficult to find a copy of. Please release it wider on Digital Release (Google Play and all) or get it on a Streaming service like "One of Us" was. It will help more people find it and see it!
Will you work with fdny?
So you’ve got it all wrong.... This organization was about filling a need in our community. It wasn’t about empowering women. We feel empowered enough. This is the big misconception out there. We are happy with our role of running our homes. Is that really archaic?? Plenty women are professionals as well. We don’t Need to do all the stuff men do in the synogogue, because women are created spiritually stronger. We don’t need it. Any woman who is envious of what men do. Is like someone who envy’s a diabetic who takes insulin. And just so you know the men are envious of us women sometimes that we can sleep late and not always have to go early to the synogogue. Especially in winter weather 😉
The fact that women couldn’t join Hatzolah was purely political, nothing to do with religion . Sadly there are immature men in the organization that waged war on that. As you see in the previous comment. But it was for the best. We are happier being an independent organization.
And we NEVER compared ourselves to the ‘back of the bus’ for the Blacks. Because that is the furthest from the truth! Women are highly regarded in our religion. It is the Woman the mother who determines if a child is Jewish. For years there was misconceptions, now with social media, there is more access to hear the truth. With time it will be clarified.
Response to ‘man in bag’
If as you say you, "we feel empowered enough" why don't these women start growing back their own hair and stop wasting so much money on wigs?
So I finally got to see the documentary on PBS. Almost a year after I made this comment. Let me just say, I was very impressed, even proud of what has been accomplished by Ruchie Frier and the rest of the team. Though I was very much saddened to see what happened to Mrs. Lerner. I'm not sure if you are some supporter or possibly Ruchie Frier herself. But I'm very sorry you simply can not honestly tell me it was not about empowerment! Sure it filled a need as seen by Mrs. Frier, Mrs. Lerner and some members of the community but clearly most were happy keeping things the way they were, no matter how legitimate and logical this need was. Actually there is no way Mrs Frier because although she had to take to the community to show that she was not feminist, she and others made numerous statements about how if a man can do it then a woman can, numerous comments about women's empowerment and breaking the glass ceiling (although she made clear not when it comes to religious practice). "The worst thing to tell me is that I can't do something because I'm a woman or a religious woman" and she clearly says that "any profession or extra schooling is discouraged" in the hasidic world. All the opposition shows this very clearly. She complained that Hatzolah did not think women were fast enough, strong enough, or strong enough. "and I think we are" It's very clear that Ruchie was not happy just remaining a secretary and a balabusta and wanted to advance "so maybe you feel "happy with our role of running our homes. Is that really archaic??" but clearly she and many of the others that were interviewed do NOT feel that way! Don't fool yourself. And yes that is Archaic. Not all men or women fit in a box, not all women even 100 years ago wanted to have their role as homemakers and all the more so today, it is archaic defining roles for each gender that they are expected to fit in to. People should be allowed to follow their dreams. But forget that it's your choice to believe what you wish, but you can't go and deny the obvious about Ruchie and claim she was already empowered enough running their homes. Then you are delusional.Oh and by the way the director of the film herself says "The film is about women's empowerment"! and "whether or no she puts that label (feminist) on herself, what she's doing - her actions are feminist" That said I completely understand why Ruchie could not label herself a feminist. She was fighting a battle as it was the last thing she needed to do was commit suicide of her organization and her standing in the community by announcing to Boro Park that she was a feminist! I send her and the entire organization my best wishes, though I do wish that as this becomes more accepted in the community Mrs. Lerner will be welcome back and the organization will become a bit more democratic (though again, I'm not judging, I understand why she did what she did, again she risked everything for this and did not want to commit this sort of suicide).
Don't want to get sidetracked but your claim of women being spiritually stronger so therefore they don't need all the roles that men have is ridiculous. Imagine someone telling Susan B. Anthony that women are better so what to we need to enter politics or have the right to vote for? Seriously would anyone buy that? Maybe back then. It's very nice that the Rabbis came up with some clever ways to keep women happy and accepting of their lot, but anyone who uses their brains can see beyond that. I know they also have explanations for why men say "lo asani isha" but if you look at the reality and not the PR, you begin to understand quickly. It's perfectly fine if you feel you don't want any of the primary roles in Judaism, In the synagogue (outside of the home) even if this is how you have been conditioned to believe, but you don't have a right to say everyone feels that way. There may be some men who would rather sleep late but the majority would not want to lose the power they have as both deciders and learners and carrying out all the Jewish roles in the synagogue, yeshiva etc. I don't fault the Rabbi's thousands of years ago for setting up things as they did, because that was the reality for women in most or maybe even all cultures back then. But I wish people today would use their saichel (minds) and be honest about the reality (even if they feel it's wrong to change). Oh and women not joining Hatzala was not at all entirely political. It came from the Psak of a number of promnent Rabbis "gedolay hador" and it reflects the religious and cultural attitudes that are so deep in the chasidic community. You sit at the back of the shul (or the side or upstairs, in some cases in what can be seen as resembling a chicken coop, but I am not saying this is usually the case, just that I have been there and seen this myself on multiple occasions) In Israel there were charedi buses in which the women literally did sit at the back of the bus and god help those women who refused, they were often attacked by the charedi men (yea very tsnius). luckily the Israeli courts ended this practice, at least officially.. It's very nice and also very logical why the child's Jewishness would be determined by the mother especially in times when men had multiple wives and other arrangements. But that does not change women's secondary role in Judaism. I accept this, I don't even fight to change this or take on new roles as some women have done, but at least I can be honest and admit it.
@@lulolancy The spiritual reason is not because of modesty. If the issue we're simply modesty, then single unmarried women would be required to cover their hair too which is not the case. So the real answer will surprise you. When a couple gets married, they become spiritually uplifted so that they begin to project a spiritual aura from their hair. Some might call it a Halo that can only be seen by spiritually deep people today. Very few can see this Halo because our world is in a state of severe spiritual decay. Now married women have this Halo all the time so that they must cover their hair all the time so that this Halo can only be shared with their husbands. Married men who are at a spiritually lower level only project this Halo when they are standing before G-d in prayer. At that time a Married man covers his hair with a large Tallit, prayer shawl with fringes on all four corners. This is specifically done when a Man is praying the 18 benedictions. So you see, men also must cover their hair but only when they have a Halo while praying. Because Men are at a lower level, unlike women they do not need to cover their hair all the time. I bet you were unprepared for this answer. So ask before assuming that you know better next time.
I find it strange that the women claim that hatzala don't accept women to voulentior in the organization. in Israel there are many women who voulentior for hatzala orthodox jewish, secular and Muslim women as well.
is the hatzala policy different in America?
yes
On the one hand, this is empowerment of women, (which is normally frowned on in this community, which is evident in at least one of the current 8 comments below) on the other hand, this is a reflection of a community which does not allow women in these roles (in the mainstream Hatzola organization). Sadly not only do the women call their organization the equivalent of "back section of the bus for Blacks in the 1950's" (literally Ezras Nashim=Women sections where they are allowed to pray privately and watch as men do everything in the synagogue) but in both examples women are shown at home cooking when they get the call, and one of them is just so happy that the husband is willing to look after his own kids when they go on a call. So is this about empowerment of women, or enhancing these archaic modesty rules which work against women and humanity?
Is this group all women because of Hasidic rules or because there are not enough EMT's?
"Hatzolah" which is the Jewish communities Volunteer Ambulance Corp, is an all male organization, so when a call comes in to "Hatzolah" to respond to an emergency where a women is giving birth unexpectedly at home, or a scenario like that, the person responding to the call whether it be an EMT or Paramedic, it's going to be a man not a woman.
To make it more comfortable to the person experiencing an emergency they created "Ezras Nushim" where its only female emergency responders.
Why so many dislikes
😂😂😂😂
Only think I could say, God bless these women, but I think @ The time of need, I prefer to be “ manhandled”
Woman belongs to be at home and take care of the family, women docent belong to drive and to take calls, it's a shame to have this organization
Stop with your BS fake show, let me tell you something, stay home be a good soccer mom,
Do what you do best, grab a creamy latte, and make sure you'll fit in, into yoga pants by tomorrow, let the man go out to save lives, it worked perfectly fine till now!
You continue doing what you do best, watching you tube videos, making dumb comments, all from the safety of your computer. There is obviously a need for female EMT's in the frum community, which you would know if you cared to ask a woman.
It was an emergency, the little JEW bor forgot his yarmulka.
Joe Magnets