A seemingly simple question was posed to Jun Po Roshi: How do I know when I'm Awake? Is it self-evident? Is there a danger I may think I'm awake, when in fact I'm actually still tightly bound to my ego?
your whole life is a road to discovering something you don't know what it is but when you find it you realize that the thing you were looking for was you
One can be awake and still be sad, and cry, or even be angry. Before awakening my eyes were horizontal, and my nose was vertical. After awakening me nose is vertical, and my eyes are horizontal. Nothing really changes, except that one is less carried away by extremes. When one feels happiness, or anger it is a great opportunity to ask who is happy, or who is angry.
Actually it is a very profound question. My opinion is that the answer lies in the question. Enlightenment by definition means death of the ego/mind and be in unison with the supreme consciousness. The death of the ego/mind happens only when there are no thoughts/questions. So as long as you have this question in your mind, you are not enlightened. Physically and Mentally, as long as you feel boredom and tiredness, you are not enlightened. Ultimate peace is enlightenment, free from all burdens.
i think to help people understand the bodhi mind, we can ise a quote i think you used on your videos before. "before enlightenment: mountains are mountains, rivers are rivers at enlightenment: mountains are no longer mountains, rivers are no longer rivers after enlightenment: mountains are mountains, rivers are rivers."
To be the arahat or the bodhisattva may not be mutually exclusive; that is, to walk in the world but be not of the world is the platform of both the arahat and the bodhisattva. The bodhisattva, however, is the arahat who has taken a vow to enlighten all sentient beings. The apparent dualism of being either the arahat or the bodhisattva is perhaps an illusion when one considers enlightenment from a nondual state/stage of being.
@mujaku I would have to agree with you on that though I think he must be aware. I have been going to a sangha for school research the past few months and study under his disciple or whatever you call it and it seems they know this although it is possible that his disciple knows and he doesn't though i find it unlikely even though i don't know how much if any interaction goes on between the two. Been going to the Zen River Sangha in Oshkosh, WI. I think Jun Po is in a nearby city, Green Bay?
The bodhisattva transcends and includes the arahat while the arahat remains on a platform exclusive of the bodhisattva. Enlightenment for the bodhisattva would be more inclusive than that of the arahat if only because of the larger perspective taken on by the bodhisattva.
@turtle53081 Being awake is not enough. It is intransitive (a verb without an object). In Buddhism awakening to Mind or Buddha Mind is the name of the game. Jun Po Roshi never mentions this exactly. That omission is a huge mistake.
@turtle53081 Pop Zennists always go back to being awake (his "boo - awake!"), using an inadequate expression (Buddhists awaken/bodhi to Mind). Real Zen is much more profound and subtle. It is about seeing the very substance of pure Mind (prakriti-visuddhi-citta) which has no distinguishing, temporal marks. This is the hyper subtle part that few accomplish.
@turtle53081 Ask this disciple what the Buddha actually transmitted to Mahakasyapa when he held up a flower and blinked. If he has had any insight into Buddha Mind he would bow to you if you just gave him a swift punch in the gut. But then do you know exactly what was transmitted by the Buddha to Mahakasyapa? You have to know, good friend. It is a matter of reaching nirvana or staying in samsara forever.
When the student is ready the teacher will appear on TH-cam.
your whole life is a road to discovering something you don't know what it is but when you find it you realize that the thing you were looking for was you
One can be awake and still be sad, and cry, or even be angry. Before awakening my eyes were horizontal, and my nose was vertical. After awakening me nose is vertical, and my eyes are horizontal. Nothing really changes, except that one is less carried away by extremes. When one feels happiness, or anger it is a great opportunity to ask who is happy, or who is angry.
I like this dude. He is cool.
Brilliant !!!!just brilliant !!!! He described it so eloquently.
Actually it is a very profound question. My opinion is that the answer lies in the question. Enlightenment by definition means death of the ego/mind and be in unison with the supreme consciousness. The death of the ego/mind happens only when there are no thoughts/questions. So as long as you have this question in your mind, you are not enlightened. Physically and Mentally, as long as you feel boredom and tiredness, you are not enlightened. Ultimate peace is enlightenment, free from all burdens.
i think to help people understand the bodhi mind, we can ise a quote i think you used on your videos before.
"before enlightenment: mountains are mountains, rivers are rivers
at enlightenment: mountains are no longer mountains, rivers are no longer rivers
after enlightenment: mountains are mountains, rivers are rivers."
This guy is cool.
To be the arahat or the bodhisattva may not be mutually exclusive; that is, to walk in the world but be not of the world is the platform of both the arahat and the bodhisattva. The bodhisattva, however, is the arahat who has taken a vow to enlighten all sentient beings. The apparent dualism of being either the arahat or the bodhisattva is perhaps an illusion when one considers enlightenment from a nondual state/stage of being.
It's the best joke ever.
Reality is real, everything exists, except YOU.
Hahaha! Sorry if "I" ruined it for someone ;)
Great answer. Thank you.
born right now.
You can talk about sleep and awakening but the truth is that none of them exists...
Waking up is easy the main thing is what then? So it all comes to the choice.
I love you
There is no sleep and there is no awakening...
You see what you are.
I'm pretty sure this is Jun Po Denis Kelly. Unless Roshi is another name of his that I'm not aware of.
those who didn't like this were threatened by him. Who him? No way! I liked it when he yelled "wake up"!
HAHAHAHAHAHA i started laughing before he did at the beginning :D and when he did, i just went supersonic out of control rolling on the floor :D
I am doing things and yet I am not the one doing them.
What is happening? It is so peaceful. Though there is a losing of self-control...
Ryan S
Unless there was no control in the fist place. Ohhhh mannn
@mujaku I would have to agree with you on that though I think he must be aware. I have been going to a sangha for school research the past few months and study under his disciple or whatever you call it and it seems they know this although it is possible that his disciple knows and he doesn't though i find it unlikely even though i don't know how much if any interaction goes on between the two. Been going to the Zen River Sangha in Oshkosh, WI. I think Jun Po is in a nearby city, Green Bay?
This reincarnation stuff is brilliant.
The bodhisattva transcends and includes the arahat while the arahat remains on a platform exclusive of the bodhisattva. Enlightenment for the bodhisattva would be more inclusive than that of the arahat if only because of the larger perspective taken on by the bodhisattva.
I'm The Buddha.
@turtle53081 Being awake is not enough. It is intransitive (a verb without an object). In Buddhism awakening to Mind or Buddha Mind is the name of the game. Jun Po Roshi never mentions this exactly. That omission is a huge mistake.
@turtle53081 Pop Zennists always go back to being awake (his "boo - awake!"), using an inadequate expression (Buddhists awaken/bodhi to Mind). Real Zen is much more profound and subtle. It is about seeing the very substance of pure Mind (prakriti-visuddhi-citta) which has no distinguishing, temporal marks. This is the hyper subtle part that few accomplish.
that sounds to me like what he said but in a different way..
@turtle53081 Ask this disciple what the Buddha actually transmitted to Mahakasyapa when he held up a flower and blinked. If he has had any insight into Buddha Mind he would bow to you if you just gave him a swift punch in the gut. But then do you know exactly what was transmitted by the Buddha to Mahakasyapa? You have to know, good friend. It is a matter of reaching nirvana or staying in samsara forever.
@mujaku this sounds familiar...i must have read this...was it a smile?
when you say bood do you mean bodhi?
To yourself.