How To Make an R410A Flare for a Mini Split AC Unit Installation
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The only difference between a standard flare and an R410A flare is that the R410A flare needs a slightly wider/longer flare surface. You can do this easily using a standard flaring tool by simply extending the pipe about 1/16th of an inch further through the flare.
Making a high quality flare on copper tubing is absolutely ESSENTIAL when making flare connections for refrigeration circuits. In this video I guide you through that process and also show you a few tips and tricks for how to prepare the pipe by removing the burrs and reaming out the inside of the pipe after cutting it. We also take a look at a very low quality factory flare as a comparison to the new flare that we create.
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There is also a product even better - FlareSeal - not rubber and not Nylog, but is pricey.
Mate why are u so perfect I’d love to see your quality of work 🤣
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When using an eccentric flaring tool, it is important to first read the instructions. The required extension varies per manufacturer. For example, I own a Yellow Jacket eccentric flaring tool (Model 60295). The instructions specify a 1 mm extension, which is less than 1/16 of an inch. In contrast, your video instructs a 1/16" to 1/8" extension. If I used that length, I would risk splitting the copper. Also, as others have noted, you should put a drop of refrigerant oil (e.g., Nylog Blue) on the cone tip before flaring. The refrigerant oil acts as a lubricant and reduces the torque needed to make a flare. It also helps to extend the life of the tool.
Thank you for the valuable insight...
@@puccha10 it's pretty valuable to be honest.
Professional HVAC guy has "egregious" in his vocabulary, has invested in quality tools, and reads the instructions. Hack says "teflon tape will fix this flair good 'nuff!", spells flare wrong, overtightens it and doesn't bother with a vacuum pump. Then gives a bad review of the equipment he bought online because it failed. Good skills and experience will always win.
Also, excellent video skills; good job getting the focus correct and showing the cone rolling the flare through the gap.
Thanks
Well said Mark!
Good video. Another really important tool I started using is a flare gauge. To make sure they are perfect every time. Helps a ton.
That eccentric flare is fantastic. Back in the day when the family had an automotive custom business, we did a lot of steel brake lines.. All we had was the straight push cone flare tool. This is SO much better.
Thank
Brake lines are supposed to be double flared nowadays. Not sure about longer ago.
Really excellent video, perfectly demonstrating the difference between a good flare and a bad one. This is very helpful.
4 years later still helping people! Thanks!
I did some copper flaring years ago, on a project. What a pain. I now see what I was doing wrong. I did finally get it, but not without many tries. Thanks
This was another excellent video tutorial that you have presented. I’m getting ready to order the R410A and pipe cutter.
Use a nickel to set the depth of the pipe before flaring.
As a newbie I have watched several of these videos trying to learn how to flare copper piping. After several attempts and several failures I finally watched this video and within five minutes was making perfect flares. Thanks for the help! Sub’d
Quick tip , the notch in the rollers on the copper cutter is to put the flare into and cut off just about 1/4 inch to remove just he flare. Good to know if you ever leave a nut off and don’t have a lot of pipe to work with
Sweet!
Thank for the very detailed instructions on how to do this, and the very clear views of the process.
Pretty good video Benjamin.
As a retired Commercial HVAC owner.
I have struggled with flares for many years, till I discovered Rigid makes a double flare tool set. Ridgid 33927 Specifications:
• Model No.: 345/150DL
• Size: No. 345 w/No. 150 Tubing Cutter and case kit (Rather expensive but worth it)
Believe me when I tell you when you make double flares, you'll never go back to the old tools again.
It forms the tubing inward first with a small button, you remove the button then use the sets flaring tool.
I never had a leak after that, and it is good for thousands of LBS
Johnson Refrigeration / Happy Retired.
Is it safe to use double flares on mini split units ? I assume all it does is make the flare itself thicker , correct ?
@@marcoeis6598 When I use a double flare, I always use the heavier duty flare nuts. You could actually. tighten down enough to actually feel The copper under. the double flare compress and make a Leak proof 100% Seal.
With a standard flare. you'll always be afraid to over tighten. and split the copper..
as i was taught 40 yrs ago and still teach.stick pipe thru block the thickness of a nickle,slithly more .highly recommend tork style blocks.too many tough guys wrecking flares.
I recently installed a mini split, but couldn't manage to get decent flares using a difficult to use cheap flare set recommended in the video I was following. Thank you so much for making this excellent guide and highlighting the costly but far more effective pro tools. This would have saved me time and money in the long run.
Well done. I have made flares in the past and did not think of using the needle nose or the knife. Learned from you, thanks.
Hello there , how are you doing today?God bless you!!❤
Wow. Perfect flare AND remembered to put the nut on first!!
Holy shit, I thought it was weird that you're using high end electricians needles then I come to find out, you're that electrician guy I used to watch. Great content, dude! 👍💪
Hahaha that's awesome!!!
Ben, you're the man, thank you for all these super helpful videos! 👍
One of the best flaring tutorial 👍
Good video. I've always had trouble deburring the tube. I like the way you raised the burr with needle nose first and then cut off the burr. I'll keep that in mind for next time I'm flaring a line.
Thank you I think I'll be making my own flares on my line set 👍😁
Needle noes trick worked great! Thanks
Beautiful job~
Save some time and buy the spin tool. It works awesome. Thanks for the video
This type of Flaring tool is indeed the best result. But many of us use less expensive equipment. Of course it takes a little struggle with simple tools
Wow good job u have done it with doing perfect flare I like and appreciate your job welldone
Wow amazing.....love the flairing tool
AaaaaaAAAH! geez! that "factory standard" flare makes my skin crawl. My split machine came with a set of tubes with a similar finish. I bought a set of tools and practised on copper tubing until I much perfected* it, then I proceeded to assemble my AC unit.
After a few years of the split being in use I had an AC professional take a look at it, they did a leak sniff for insurance reasons, he found no fault except some astethic choices I made.
AFAIK 14 years later it was still working.
*Perfected = the tool set was considerably cheaper than yours; lacked the torque-stop and eccenter. The tube clamping part of device always left a small pinch mark on tube above the flare. The pinch mark did not interfere with the nut so it did not matter much.
How many times have you finished making the flare and just as you're about to install the line you realize you forgot to slip the nut on first? 😆
Never. ;)
😂 I have done that before. It's a humbling experience. Only seems to happen if someone is watching!
@@ReubenSahlstrom Well if someone's watching then it's guaranteed to happen. Ha ha
Almost every time, lol
Happens to everyone once in a while 😂😂
Excellent craftsmanship.😊
Excellent work.
If you put refrigeration oil on the tubing end while flaring, it comes out really smooth.
Well Done. Thanks for the info.
Others have mentioned already but it bears repeating. Great camera work. Really easy to see what your describing.
Your work is very good thank you so much
Very good job, thanks for the input
This video is perfect, thank you 👍
Professional work I like your job 👍
Excellent Job...Congrats.
Nice work!! Thank you very much for sharing!
Great video, and great close shots
It is always recommended to use nylog or to use the same oil that is used in the system on the cone of the tool, it will make a far smoother flare and NO it will not hurt the system if a tiny bit gets inside because it is the same as what is in the system already.
some new machines you are not supposed to expose the oil to air at all!!
@@youtubier2839 if you are installing refrigeration equipment such as a mini split then use nylog on the face of the flare.
Great job.
Excellent tutorial my friend.
Thank you so much sir
so that is flaring...Thanks man...Good Job!
Your videos are superb. I like how you used, "egregious" in this one. Great word!
Very well done video
Thank you great video. Cheers
Nice flaring .. good job 👍
The Navac gun that makes flares is the absolute best!!!
Thank so much for tutorial sir
Looks like the same cheap Amazon concentric flare kit that I bought. It does work.
I have to say you have done an excellent job! Personally, I always felt uncomfortable with flare fittings because all of those scratches can pose any risk.
Thanks from Bangladesh.
I really appreciate your video, it was just prefect no bs.
Nice flare. The flare nut on the 410a is not only stronger but the threads match up to the unit it came off of.
The threads are the threads. It's not like the factory is custom matching them.
Good information sir thanks 👍💖
What a difference a good and correct tool makes ... Good vid Benji ...
Quedo perfecto...!!
I love this attention to detail. Nobody ever sees these things. Bravo sir. 🫡
Thanks
That’s a perfect flare
Great camera work.
Good job
Nicely done. You don't mention the shoe, but we can see it makes a convenient place to place the tool. Thanks for sharing
Funny thing is... I have to do this tomorrow for the first time so... thanks for the help!
Nice video!
Great video!!!
Good work friend
Amazing!
Great video, thank you. Quality counts. ))
Refrigeration flares are 39 degrees, automotive flares are 45 degrees.
Great tips...thanks
Nice Job!! Nice tool!
Good knowledge. Thanks a lot.
Glad that it was useful!
Legend good fleering
good job!
Muito bom… gostei !
I think you put the same nut on the new flare... Lol!!! Great video,,, Very informative...
I love my spin flares as much as my spin swagger
Nice Video , nice audio, best explaination... good luck
great video...brother..,thanks for sharing ! .
I really need to get this flairing tools
Nice video thank you so much
Good Job
Great video - very thorough explanation for something that a lot of people often don't give enough attention to!
I love this channel
Great video 📹
Thankyou
Good video !!
Thanks. Fantastic camera work really showed how to get this done perfectly. I didn't know about that eccentric flaring tool! Now, I do. Nice work.
good job
I have made several dozen flares on copper, steel, and occasionally aluminum tubing, and I never trust a single flare. A double flare is double the thickness thus it is much less prone to cracking as is common with single flares, especially if disassembled and reassembled.
So nice
Thanks perfact skills 💯👍
Great clarity and detail. Could you do one on replacing windscreen wiper inserts?