The 5% was included in the effective damage calculations, I just forgot it when I was paraphrasing. Also yes the covenant does work for assistants. If I can get him I'll probably use him with Trajan so I can use them both to defend tiles.
I loved the video. Very nice. I now know for sure that Elise is better than Scipio. Thank you for the 'Defiles' pun, too, very nice of you to do that. I really love this channel.
She's better but she need dragon to excel better stat where Scipio doesn't need dragon or beast, I've been thinking to choose Scipio over Elise bcoz I don't have 3rd dragon yet, Scipio stat are almost same as Elise
No they don't factor the dragon in, but if they have a dragon as an assistant it will still be active. If you don't have a dragon for them I wouldn't recommend using them as an assistant.
It's a shame I didn't wait a few days to post this lol. He's #1 in effective damage (with skin + coven) #4 without. He's #1 in effective health (with skin + coven) #1 without. As as assistant he's #1 in damage with or without skin + coven, and #1 in health with or without skin. So yeah he's pretty overpowered.
You mentioned that Elise is available in the Trial of Knights event. Scipio is as well. Because of this, it's not quite accurate to consider them fully premium generals. As I recall from a previous video, you referred to Dewey as "freemium" because his fragments are available in the Great Generals' Chest. If that's true about Dewey, it should be even more true about about Elise and Scipio as it shouldn't be difficult to collect 45 fragments a month for them a month.
Question on your comment around Trajan. You said he works if he’s in a building. I thought that attacking or marching buffs did work inside buildings or temples. The only time they don’t work is in a city as a wall general or as a rein general
Good question, to be honest I've always heard that the attacking or marching clause only works when you are sending the march to attack, but I've never tested it myself. I'll have to test it and see what I find.
Good question, Freya is an interesting general, the problem with her is that most of her abilities are locked behind the clause "defending outside the main city". I'm not sure if this only works while reinforcing other players keeps, or if it will work while camped on a tile. The other problem is the price, for this last event it would have been 200 USD to get one copy of her, so using her as a main general is not practical at all. But if we look at how she works as an assistant, she will be way better than any of the others when her skills are active.
I only count the base skill and specialty for assistants, I made the mistake a few months ago of counting the ascension too and had to delete some videos lol
Why is no one talking about freyja? Even when you're leading an attack, she gives defense and attack +40% reining a player or temple she's giving an extra 50% to 2 skills. And her leadership is 124 and attack is 120. Defense is 119... and not one TH-cam video or online thread talks about her that i can find. I match her with Scipio and they are pretty tanks.
I was going to make a video specifically for Freya but I got busy with other projects and forgot about her thb. At full ascension Freya has 296Atk, 244Def, 260HP, 18MS, only counting the clauses that aren't defending outside the city. The average for a premium ground general is 307Atk, 272Def, 272HP, 11MS, so you can see she's nothing special. The thing that makes her powerful is the buffs that are behind the "defending outside the city" clause, which most people assume only works when reinforcing, but to be sure you would have to test her in every scenario.
@@Maath_Faseli when I lead with Scipio and her as a ass gen. Her attack and defense stack, the hp does not. I can flip them and everything stacks. It's pretty op, when holding temples
Please consider dragon requirements of general mext time. I have 400 fragments of Elise but no dragon. So i can't get the benefits from her. I'm using swen with her
The more considerations I add the longer these videos will be, so I only consider the important parts to keep it as short as possible. Don't let dragons change your expectations, evony is a long term game, you'll get a dragon soon enough and then you'll have the best generals for when that happens.
Alessandra is 6th is damage and 8th in health for assistants. She's decent and if you've already heavily invested into her specialty then I would use her. The best option for an assistant to Elise would be Sweyn, but the difference between Sweyn and Alessandra isn't huge.
@@Maath_Faseli I like her march size buff embedded just in her basic skill. If I randomly will get Sweyn I will consider him. Nice video. Also , marching / attacking works in buildings. Cheers
Here's a quick video on the new ground general Evony released today!
th-cam.com/video/9N7u-6Ei178/w-d-xo.html
Good video. You missed sweyn having a 5% march size in covenant which i believe applies to assistant and he pairs with almost everyone
The 5% was included in the effective damage calculations, I just forgot it when I was paraphrasing. Also yes the covenant does work for assistants. If I can get him I'll probably use him with Trajan so I can use them both to defend tiles.
I made it to the end 😎🤙🏼
I loved the video. Very nice. I now know for sure that Elise is better than Scipio. Thank you for the 'Defiles' pun, too, very nice of you to do that. I really love this channel.
She's better but she need dragon to excel better stat where Scipio doesn't need dragon or beast, I've been thinking to choose Scipio over Elise bcoz I don't have 3rd dragon yet, Scipio stat are almost same as Elise
Does main Elise and assistant Forkbeard stack?
Yes they do work together
Does your assistant general calculations consider that ludwig and elise need a dragon?
No they don't factor the dragon in, but if they have a dragon as an assistant it will still be active. If you don't have a dragon for them I wouldn't recommend using them as an assistant.
@EvonyAcademy_ that's why I asked, since most people don't have a spare dragon for an assistant.
@@brianc7466 Even if you have spare dragon for assistant, it is still just waste of dragon. Just make a proper setup and call it a day.
I think you missed out on Epaminondas ..😊
haha yeah I did, I realized a few days ago when someone from my alliance asked about him
What about the new guy suchet
It's a shame I didn't wait a few days to post this lol. He's #1 in effective damage (with skin + coven) #4 without. He's #1 in effective health (with skin + coven) #1 without. As as assistant he's #1 in damage with or without skin + coven, and #1 in health with or without skin. So yeah he's pretty overpowered.
Here you go, a quick video on his stats th-cam.com/video/9N7u-6Ei178/w-d-xo.html
You mentioned that Elise is available in the Trial of Knights event. Scipio is as well. Because of this, it's not quite accurate to consider them fully premium generals. As I recall from a previous video, you referred to Dewey as "freemium" because his fragments are available in the Great Generals' Chest. If that's true about Dewey, it should be even more true about about Elise and Scipio as it shouldn't be difficult to collect 45 fragments a month for them a month.
That's true, I'll have to start referring to them as freemiums too lol
Question on your comment around Trajan. You said he works if he’s in a building. I thought that attacking or marching buffs did work inside buildings or temples. The only time they don’t work is in a city as a wall general or as a rein general
Good question, to be honest I've always heard that the attacking or marching clause only works when you are sending the march to attack, but I've never tested it myself. I'll have to test it and see what I find.
Appreciate you testing and confirming. Keep making great stuff!
thanks
Great research , thank you ! Have you considered Freyja as a ground general especially in the assistant role.
Good question, Freya is an interesting general, the problem with her is that most of her abilities are locked behind the clause "defending outside the main city". I'm not sure if this only works while reinforcing other players keeps, or if it will work while camped on a tile. The other problem is the price, for this last event it would have been 200 USD to get one copy of her, so using her as a main general is not practical at all. But if we look at how she works as an assistant, she will be way better than any of the others when her skills are active.
So, what a best combo freemium / free general ?? Still elise + trajan ?
It's not YuFi. It's pronounced Yueh Fay (drag out the h sound in Yueh, like -eh)
I wonder if you’re taking into account for assistants that the ascension doesn’t count only main skill, books & specialty.
I only count the base skill and specialty for assistants, I made the mistake a few months ago of counting the ascension too and had to delete some videos lol
Why is no one talking about freyja? Even when you're leading an attack, she gives defense and attack +40% reining a player or temple she's giving an extra 50% to 2 skills. And her leadership is 124 and attack is 120. Defense is 119... and not one TH-cam video or online thread talks about her that i can find. I match her with Scipio and they are pretty tanks.
I was going to make a video specifically for Freya but I got busy with other projects and forgot about her thb. At full ascension Freya has 296Atk, 244Def, 260HP, 18MS, only counting the clauses that aren't defending outside the city. The average for a premium ground general is 307Atk, 272Def, 272HP, 11MS, so you can see she's nothing special. The thing that makes her powerful is the buffs that are behind the "defending outside the city" clause, which most people assume only works when reinforcing, but to be sure you would have to test her in every scenario.
@@Maath_Faseli when I lead with Scipio and her as a ass gen. Her attack and defense stack, the hp does not. I can flip them and everything stacks. It's pretty op, when holding temples
Please consider dragon requirements of general mext time. I have 400 fragments of Elise but no dragon. So i can't get the benefits from her. I'm using swen with her
Scipio is alternative, he has same skill as Elise but no need dragon
The more considerations I add the longer these videos will be, so I only consider the important parts to keep it as short as possible. Don't let dragons change your expectations, evony is a long term game, you'll get a dragon soon enough and then you'll have the best generals for when that happens.
Scipio doesn't have march size
@@rubelleo Scipio does have march size. His second specialty gives you 6% MS.
Does Alessandra make the list as an assistant ? I'm using Elise (main) and Alessandra (assistant)
Alessandra is 6th is damage and 8th in health for assistants. She's decent and if you've already heavily invested into her specialty then I would use her. The best option for an assistant to Elise would be Sweyn, but the difference between Sweyn and Alessandra isn't huge.
@@Maath_Faseli I like her march size buff embedded just in her basic skill. If I randomly will get Sweyn I will consider him. Nice video. Also , marching / attacking works in buildings. Cheers
Which one is alex?
what time stamp? I probably was referring to Alexander the Great, but it's possible I referred to Alessandra as Alex lol
Where is the best ground attack in Scipio Africanus?
Please Elise and Frigg, who is more stronger?