It's neat seeing how far you've come in terms of production value and story telling. This is great stuff (even better if you consider how much content was trash on youtube a decade ago) but side by side, damn you've upped your game.
I highly agree, even Norman knew that this episode has several errors in his "What Facts Did I Get Wrong?" episode, this episode NEEDS to be remade for modern days
You ain't lying. Because the Popeye aspect was never covered about how the game was originally based off of Popeye, but had to be changed after they were denied rights to use the characters.
Donkey Kong wasn't just based on Popeye, the game was originally going to be a popeye game but they couldn't get the rights so they changed the sprites, names, story and voila, Donkey Kong was born!
Fun fact: The year after Donkey Kong was released, Nintendo was able to release a video game version of Popeye. In it, Olive Oyl tosses down objects such as hearts and musical notes, and Popeye tries to catch them all while avoiding Brutus. There's also a can of spinach he can "power up" with. Unfortunately, the Popeye game wasn't nearly as successful as Donkey Kong turned out to be. Check it out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye_(video_game)
@@slapporist2180 Universal tried to sue Nintendo over Donkey Kong because the film studio thought that the plot for DK resembled King Kong, but the suit ended in Nintendo's favor when it was revealed King Kong had since been in the public domain.
I've watched so many of your videos today! Your videos are really well put together, you connect with the watchers very well! keep up with the videos man!!:)
i have been finding myself hooked on your videos! each and every single day i take a watch to a new one and learn so much about the video game history! i am greatful for your reviews which have cleared up alot of questions ive had for many years now! Thank You Mr Game historian and please keep the videoes going for years to come! if you can....if its possible..... could you do a few more nintendo classic best sellers from the arcades just like you did Donkey Kong.... maybe possibly.... Contra or R-type please. thank you again for your awesome videos you now have me as a loyal fan for life!
Find it interesting that Donkey Kong, Mario, and Pauline turned 40 this past July and Nintendo didn't bother mentioning that or make a celebration about it.
Seeing how old some of these videos are it makes me glad that I've been a subscriber for a long time. I love revisiting your older videos. Even back then you did such a great job providing us with quality entertainment.
Donkey Kong games have definitely been a part of my history. I remember being a kid in the 80s playing the arcade version at a local bowling alley, I spent quite a few quarters on that one! Of course I played some of the other DK games starting with the Atari 2600 version on up to the NES version. I remember when Donkey Kong Country came out, there was actually a Nintendo representative at my local Walmart allowing people to try the game in the store before it was released and that game for sure became popular with my wife and kids. It's amazing to see how Nintendo became famous with such an unusual character for a video game lol.
There was also Crazy Kong, which I remember playing as a kid at a gas station close to my house. Everyone has always said it was a bootleg version, but it was officially licensed by Nintendo, before they revoked their license due to a breath of contract.
You do a really great job with these videos, the photos, the narration. You have a bright future and I look forward to watching your career "level up"! If you ever need background guitar music for videos I would love to compose for them!
Danny Hauger this video is 7 years old, he's already "leveled up" as you say with having over 275,000 subscribers and putting out content regularly. Lol.
3:18 - "Donkey Kong was inspired by Popeye" And this explains why the Popeye video game (which I remember from my Commodore 64) is FAAAAR too similar to Donkey Kong.
You forgot to mention that Nintendo tried to get license to Popeye, but had to re-skin them as the Donkey Kong characters when they couldn't acquire it.
Also that Nintendo didn't develop Donkey Kong, they outsourced it to another company to execute Myamoto's concept (he still made the graphics I think). Also this was a great missed opportunity to mention the hilarious Universal lawsuit regarding Donkey Kong -> King Kong...
I know the video is old by now, but i think it'd be nice to mention that the current look and gameplay of "Donkey kong" for the arcades came to form when "Nintendo" failed an attemp to get a license for the "Popeye" characters in the hopes to create arcade machines based on the popular comic strip. After this failure "Miyamoto" changed around some character designs and game plot to create the version of the arcade we all know and love today.
ha, ha. I got hooked on gaming historian through the latest vids. Going back it's easy to tell the new stuff's better produced with a more modern documentary styled polish. Perhaps in due time the subjects in the older vids can be remade with the newer professional format. still, I'll take new videos with other game industry subjects yet to be covered. :D
There actually is a brief moment in the 1976 version of King Kong where the titular ape throws barrels of flammable material at a man with a flamethrower. (It ends how you would expect.) I can't imagine that Shigeru Miyamoto saw that version of King Kong and took note of that specific scene though.
On the first donkey kong country, the opening sequence of the game shows cranky and a gramophone on a construction that resembles the scenary of the Donkey Kong arcade game.... I believe that this supports the theory that Cranky is, in fact the Kong from the arcade game....
Whenever I see a glimpse of your room I have to remind myself that I'm watching Gaming Historian and not Avgn because of how similar the video style is, the way he dresses and his game collection and even the way you talk is similar to him.
In the DKC manual, it is stated that Cranky is grampa, not his dad. It is actually in DK64 that told about this mistake. In other words Donkey Kong Junior is actually the current DK's dad.
wow... i never learned so much at once! this was utterly AWESOME! The name origin had me lmao! all i can say is that you should have a tv show like everyone else says XD
I have good memories playing donkey kong on the SNES with a old school friend. I remember his carts used to be in terrible condition with no boxes and manuals. Only if he knew the value today.
Here's one thing that Nintendo confirmed. That orignal Donkey Kong arcade game actually took place in New Donk City. Yes, I mean the same city from the recently released Super Mario Odyssey. To prove this is true, try going through the buildings in the city while it's night while Jump Up, Super Star is playing, they will have the same structures from one of the levels from the arcade game. Also, have a look at this cover. 6:12 That lady Donkey Kong is holding, doesn't she look familiar to you?
When Mario, or Jumpman, rather, was first concepted, they made him a carpenter. However, they changed his occupation to a plumber when the Mario Bros. arcade game was released.
Somebody probably said it here already, but the current DK isn't DK Jr. DK Jr. is missing in action currently, and the current DK is the grandson of the original DK.
Yeah, he had removed his account & videos not too long ago due to some personal issues. Though it seems he had gotten over the personal issues and is coming back with stuff. At the moment, he's re-uploading his older videos.
Nintendo was sued by universal studios since they though they had the rights to Kong because of their movie King Kong. Just when Nintendo was on the ropes to loose the lawsuits, Kirby stepped in, pointing out that the movie studios admitted that the Kong's open domain. Thanks to Kirby, Nintendo manage to save their license and Kirby won a Boat named after DK, as well as the pink puff ball's named after him.
are you just releasing all your old videos again? cause I seen thi one before as weel as the NES 2 maybe its just me but I thought I seen these last 2 videos already
I've heard a theory that goes along with the Donkey Kong/Crankey Kong theory...that the Mario we know today is not the Mario from Donkey Kong, but his son. Mario/Jumpman had a different occupation, and a different girlfriend name. There was also a SNES game where you see Mario and Luigi as babies (but it's not revealed who their parents are). I actually think that Mario and Pauline are the parents of the Mario and Luigi of today.
+Akaihiryuu77 Bullcrap theory. Nintendo clearly confirms that the Mario we know today debuted in Donkey Kong for the arcade. Really? Different jobs? Mario had a lot of different jobs back in the day, not just Plumber. He originally started as a carpenter, then cement factory worker, solder at vietnam, construction worker and so much more. What's wrong with not accepting the fact Mario trying out different jobs until he finally found plumbing his match huh? Nintendo also clearly confirms that Pauline is Mario's EX-girlfriend nowadays. That clearly means Peach replace Pauline when it comes to Mario's love interest. So Mario and Jumpman are the same person. Also, keep in mind Gorillas also age faster than humans. That's why original Donkey Kong age to Cranky Kong, and Mario and Pauline are still young.
I have a little bit of fact that he left out. Donkey Kong was originally known in Japan as Monkey Kong, but, as I passed to America, it was mistranslated into Donkey Kong, and the name stuck, his name soon changing to that in Japan as well. This kinda contradicts to his stuff, and I'm not sure it's true. I heard it from my school, from a huge Nintendo fanatic. Dunno if it's true.
Hey dude, just discovering you. Good video. Nothing I didn't know already but good video. It does bug me how you refer to the DK-Cranky connection as a "theory" though. Word of God is fact, not theory. I hope future you fixed this little issue of yours haha. Back to binge watching!
me: aw, what a cool retro aesthetic with the square frame and the 240p! wow you got footage of yourself as a kid? ... wait me: looks at date of posting. me: o.o
You should have included the best part of Donkey Kong's saga: Universal Pictures tried to sue Nintendo because they said the game infringed on their copyright on "King Kong". This lawsuit was headed by Sid Sheinberg, who'd later become infamous for trying to re-edit Terry Gilliam's "Brazil". Howard Lincoln found out Universal DIDN'T own the copyright to "King Kong", and the studio in fact went out of their way years before to prove the license was public domain. Needless ot say, Nintendo won.
Well the theory is so wrong, because in Smash Bros Brawl when you use Snakes Codec in Shadow Moses Island, Octacon will state that the current Donkey Kong is actually Cranky Kongs Grandson, not is regular son, since the DK on the gameboy's version of Donkey Kong could be Cranky Kong in his younger days, because Donkey Kong Country didn't appear till November and all the release dates in the Gameboy version of Donkey Kong where before November and also to bebunk it more that in the trivia section on the Super Mario wiki page on the Gameboy version of Donkey Kong states that "This will be the last appearance of the Original Donkey Kong".
It's neat seeing how far you've come in terms of production value and story telling. This is great stuff (even better if you consider how much content was trash on youtube a decade ago) but side by side, damn you've upped your game.
Man, this episode is begging to be remade, for multiple reasons.
Agreed
I highly agree, even Norman knew that this episode has several errors in his "What Facts Did I Get Wrong?" episode, this episode NEEDS to be remade for modern days
You ain't lying. Because the Popeye aspect was never covered about how the game was originally based off of Popeye, but had to be changed after they were denied rights to use the characters.
Another vote for a remake today. A lot of stuff that could be thrown in here now.
This video made me a subscriber. As a kid I just loved playing NES games. Now it's interesting to learn the history behind it all.
Donkey Kong wasn't just based on Popeye, the game was originally going to be a popeye game but they couldn't get the rights so they changed the sprites, names, story and voila, Donkey Kong was born!
Really I thought they based it off King Kong cause a giant ape capturing a pretty girl sounds Familiar to me, or it could just be a coincidence
Oh wait it is never mind
Fun fact: The year after Donkey Kong was released, Nintendo was able to release a video game version of Popeye. In it, Olive Oyl tosses down objects such as hearts and musical notes, and Popeye tries to catch them all while avoiding Brutus. There's also a can of spinach he can "power up" with. Unfortunately, the Popeye game wasn't nearly as successful as Donkey Kong turned out to be. Check it out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popeye_(video_game)
@@slapporist2180 Universal tried to sue Nintendo over Donkey Kong because the film studio thought that the plot for DK resembled King Kong, but the suit ended in Nintendo's favor when it was revealed King Kong had since been in the public domain.
Moral lesson: Make something original with your idea instead of taking something that's already popular.
I've watched so many of your videos today! Your videos are really well put together, you connect with the watchers very well! keep up with the videos man!!:)
i have been finding myself hooked on your videos! each and every single day i take a watch to a new one and learn so much about the video game history! i am greatful for your reviews which have cleared up alot of questions ive had for many years now! Thank You Mr Game historian and please keep the videoes going for years to come! if you can....if its possible..... could you do a few more nintendo classic best sellers from the arcades just like you did Donkey Kong.... maybe possibly.... Contra or R-type please. thank you again for your awesome videos you now have me as a loyal fan for life!
Find it interesting that Donkey Kong, Mario, and Pauline turned 40 this past July and Nintendo didn't bother mentioning that or make a celebration about it.
DK has been getting no love from Nintendo for some years now, tf they doing, last was tropical freeze
Seeing how old some of these videos are it makes me glad that I've been a subscriber for a long time. I love revisiting your older videos. Even back then you did such a great job providing us with quality entertainment.
Ah, this takes me back to a simpler time on TH-cam. I wasn't watching this channel at the time sadly, but it reminds me of videos from the era
Fun Fact:
The original King Kong has a sequel called Son of Kong. Donkey Kong Jr. could be a subtle reference to the movie.
O1993O1993 tyj
I read about it in a book once.
I *could*
I've just found your channel - its amazing! Well done, and keep up the great work :)
Donkey Kong games have definitely been a part of my history. I remember being a kid in the 80s playing the arcade version at a local bowling alley, I spent quite a few quarters on that one! Of course I played some of the other DK games starting with the Atari 2600 version on up to the NES version. I remember when Donkey Kong Country came out, there was actually a Nintendo representative at my local Walmart allowing people to try the game in the store before it was released and that game for sure became popular with my wife and kids. It's amazing to see how Nintendo became famous with such an unusual character for a video game lol.
The arcade game is so hard, Mario can’t even fall a few pixels down without dying.
There was also Crazy Kong, which I remember playing as a kid at a gas station close to my house. Everyone has always said it was a bootleg version, but it was officially licensed by Nintendo, before they revoked their license due to a breath of contract.
>>says zelda 2:34
>>shows picture of link
FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
word
Thanks Norman! I love these!
Dude, I am LOVING all of your videos.
So glad I found this channel. Who would have thought there was educational stuff on this Internets.
Been watching your vids all day. They are brilliant. Thank you.
It's great to see your videos coming back!
I love this type of content! So educational and fun to watch!
You do a really great job with these videos, the photos, the narration. You have a bright future and I look forward to watching your career "level up"! If you ever need background guitar music for videos I would love to compose for them!
Danny Hauger this video is 7 years old, he's already "leveled up" as you say with having over 275,000 subscribers and putting out content regularly. Lol.
and his new videos are on par with a professional documentary, except without the bullshit to lengthen them to an hour.
Wait, if Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, then how old is Mario and Pauline...?
You should redo this episode.It's great, it deserves more views, and could be updated in a variety of ways.
This makes me miss Iwota even more.
Rest In Peace, Mr. Iwota.
You causally reveal the origins of Mario's name in this episode. WOW! 4:00
2:46 He be asserting dominance tho
this video is 10 years old. I would love to watch a remake.
Glad ur back ^_^
3:18 - "Donkey Kong was inspired by Popeye"
And this explains why the Popeye video game (which I remember from my Commodore 64) is FAAAAR too similar to Donkey Kong.
Amazing man, awesome video. Keep them up please!
Great video homie!!
You forgot to mention that Nintendo tried to get license to Popeye, but had to re-skin them as the Donkey Kong characters when they couldn't acquire it.
Also that Nintendo didn't develop Donkey Kong, they outsourced it to another company to execute Myamoto's concept (he still made the graphics I think). Also this was a great missed opportunity to mention the hilarious Universal lawsuit regarding Donkey Kong -> King Kong...
Romain Gauthier He made a video about that Lawsuit
Yup
Ironic, considering they made a Popeye arcade game in 1983.
Wow your videos have come a long way, but all the bases for a great youtube channel were there from the start!
I know the video is old by now, but i think it'd be nice to mention that the current look and gameplay of "Donkey kong" for the arcades came to form when "Nintendo" failed an attemp to get a license for the "Popeye" characters in the hopes to create arcade machines based on the popular comic strip. After this failure "Miyamoto" changed around some character designs and game plot to create the version of the arcade we all know and love today.
ha, ha. I got hooked on gaming historian through the latest vids. Going back it's easy to tell the new stuff's better produced with a more modern documentary styled polish. Perhaps in due time the subjects in the older vids can be remade with the newer professional format. still, I'll take new videos with other game industry subjects yet to be covered. :D
There actually is a brief moment in the 1976 version of King Kong where the titular ape throws barrels of flammable material at a man with a flamethrower. (It ends how you would expect.) I can't imagine that Shigeru Miyamoto saw that version of King Kong and took note of that specific scene though.
welcome back gaming historian!
On the first donkey kong country, the opening sequence of the game shows cranky and a gramophone on a construction that resembles the scenary of the Donkey Kong arcade game.... I believe that this supports the theory that Cranky is, in fact the Kong from the arcade game....
Excellent! Keep up the great work.
I'm glad you got a new camera, Norman.
Great video Norman. I can't wait to see more!
Wow a decade now and it’s amazing
dude, your show should be on TV!
Very professional
Whenever I see a glimpse of your room I have to remind myself that I'm watching Gaming Historian and not Avgn because of how similar the video style is, the way he dresses and his game collection and even the way you talk is similar to him.
How is it a "theory"? You just said the manual states that new DK is the son of the original!
Great video. Keep em coming!
Ahhh classic Gaming Historian. :)
Awesome video! You need a whole video of Metroid!!!!!!
after watching two videos, im definitely subscribing.
Oh how far you’ve come, Norman. Even starting this video by misspelling Michael Chrichton’s name. I’d love to see this video remade.
For a sec I thought he was gonna say
If you don’t know who shigeru Miya Miyamoto is you need some serious help
Classic Game Room is a featured video? FREAKIN SWEET
In the DKC manual, it is stated that Cranky is grampa, not his dad. It is actually in DK64 that told about this mistake. In other words Donkey Kong Junior is actually the current DK's dad.
wow... i never learned so much at once! this was utterly AWESOME! The name origin had me lmao! all i can say is that you should have a tv show like everyone else says XD
These are really good.
im not gonna lie. your vids are awesome!
I've succumb to watching your old videos lol I love your show.
great stuff man
Checking out all your videos on youtube that you're uploading now. Will be fun to see new videos later (:
Mario, Donkey Kong, Pikachu, Kirby, Samus, Pitt, AND LJN come to mind for me.
Subscribing. Your channel is awesome. I wish I could spend more time here learning about the gaming history.
DK grew up so fast.
Wish I could find a DK Arcade machine here in the Pacific Northwest. It’s as if they don’t exist anymore since the 80s.
I have good memories playing donkey kong on the SNES with a old school friend. I remember his carts used to be in terrible condition with no boxes and manuals. Only if he knew the value today.
Here's one thing that Nintendo confirmed. That orignal Donkey Kong arcade game actually took place in New Donk City. Yes, I mean the same city from the recently released Super Mario Odyssey. To prove this is true, try going through the buildings in the city while it's night while Jump Up, Super Star is playing, they will have the same structures from one of the levels from the arcade game. Also, have a look at this cover. 6:12 That lady Donkey Kong is holding, doesn't she look familiar to you?
You and the nerd rock! Thanks for recognizing what our generation experienced first hand.
awesome extreme love to all historians, especial gaming historian!!
2:37 Norman: Zelda, *picture of kink appears next to his head*
Well, to be fair, I think he knows, he's just referring Zelda as in the franchise, not Link himself.
What is the first character that pops to my head when I think about Nintendo?
Actually, Donkey Kong.
great video... i saw these on that website a couple of months ago....making your own website? nice!
keep up the great work
Woah, that's cool that they added in character development to Donkey Kong.
2:47 our boi shigeru doin the t-pose before it was cool.
Awesome dude, I never knew Cranky was the original DK. Very very interesting! So does Mario never age or somethin?
When Mario, or Jumpman, rather, was first concepted, they made him a carpenter. However, they changed his occupation to a plumber when the Mario Bros. arcade game was released.
wow good video!
I just realized the intro is a comparison to between past and current well current at the time games
Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong but the new Donkey Kong is his grandson and Donkey Kong Jr is the new Donkey Kong’s dad.
Somebody probably said it here already, but the current DK isn't DK Jr. DK Jr. is missing in action currently, and the current DK is the grandson of the original DK.
I think the theory goes: Cranky was the original DK, DK jr was his son, and the Donkey Kong we all know from DKC is DK jr's son and Cranky's grandson.
Why did you use the nes version of the game instead of the cabinet and why didn't you show the boards?
Its funny how this video is teaching you how Donkey Kong was created but we are learning how Mario was created too.
You looked and sounded like a teenager that was still going through puberty in this video.
Your video is used in my video game college class!
Just traveling back in time.
DK on SNES was awesome. It pushed the limits of the SNES and almost looked 32-bit. Amazing.
Yeah, he had removed his account & videos not too long ago due to some personal issues. Though it seems he had gotten over the personal issues and is coming back with stuff. At the moment, he's re-uploading his older videos.
Nintendo was sued by universal studios since they though they had the rights to Kong because of their movie King Kong. Just when Nintendo was on the ropes to loose the lawsuits, Kirby stepped in, pointing out that the movie studios admitted that the Kong's open domain. Thanks to Kirby, Nintendo manage to save their license and Kirby won a Boat named after DK, as well as the pink puff ball's named after him.
are you just releasing all your old videos again? cause I seen thi one before as weel as the NES 2 maybe its just me but I thought I seen these last 2 videos already
What?
Your comment is 11 years old
Yea duh
This was really interesting, thank you!
that was cranking Kong on the Donkey Kong arcade game and Donkey Kong jr. is today's Donkey Kong
I've heard a theory that goes along with the Donkey Kong/Crankey Kong theory...that the Mario we know today is not the Mario from Donkey Kong, but his son. Mario/Jumpman had a different occupation, and a different girlfriend name. There was also a SNES game where you see Mario and Luigi as babies (but it's not revealed who their parents are). I actually think that Mario and Pauline are the parents of the Mario and Luigi of today.
+Akaihiryuu77 You know, that actually makes sense.
+Akaihiryuu77 Bullcrap theory. Nintendo clearly confirms that the Mario we know today debuted in Donkey Kong for the arcade. Really? Different jobs? Mario had a lot of different jobs back in the day, not just Plumber. He originally started as a carpenter, then cement factory worker, solder at vietnam, construction worker and so much more. What's wrong with not accepting the fact Mario trying out different jobs until he finally found plumbing his match huh? Nintendo also clearly confirms that Pauline is Mario's EX-girlfriend nowadays. That clearly means Peach replace Pauline when it comes to Mario's love interest. So Mario and Jumpman are the same person. Also, keep in mind Gorillas also age faster than humans. That's why original Donkey Kong age to Cranky Kong, and Mario and Pauline are still young.
That SNES game is Yoshi's Island
I have a little bit of fact that he left out. Donkey Kong was originally known in Japan as Monkey Kong, but, as I passed to America, it was mistranslated into Donkey Kong, and the name stuck, his name soon changing to that in Japan as well. This kinda contradicts to his stuff, and I'm not sure it's true. I heard it from my school, from a huge Nintendo fanatic. Dunno if it's true.
Country DK (junior) is my favorite Nintendo character. 2nd fav is... Mike Tyson. 😁😎 Then Mario, Link, Kirby, Lil Mac, Yoshi, etc.
Hey dude, just discovering you. Good video. Nothing I didn't know already but good video.
It does bug me how you refer to the DK-Cranky connection as a "theory" though. Word of God is fact, not theory. I hope future you fixed this little issue of yours haha.
Back to binge watching!
god i love the intro for these videos
me: aw, what a cool retro aesthetic with the square frame and the 240p! wow you got footage of yourself as a kid? ... wait
me: looks at date of posting.
me: o.o
You should have included the best part of Donkey Kong's saga: Universal Pictures tried to sue Nintendo because they said the game infringed on their copyright on "King Kong". This lawsuit was headed by Sid Sheinberg, who'd later become infamous for trying to re-edit Terry Gilliam's "Brazil". Howard Lincoln found out Universal DIDN'T own the copyright to "King Kong", and the studio in fact went out of their way years before to prove the license was public domain. Needless ot say, Nintendo won.
I'd love to hear more about Rare, specifically Goldeneye 007. Awesome channel 🤗
Well the theory is so wrong, because in Smash Bros Brawl when you use Snakes Codec in Shadow Moses Island, Octacon will state that the current Donkey Kong is actually Cranky Kongs Grandson, not is regular son, since the DK on the gameboy's version of Donkey Kong could be Cranky Kong in his younger days, because Donkey Kong Country didn't appear till November and all the release dates in the Gameboy version of Donkey Kong where before November and also to bebunk it more that in the trivia section on the Super Mario wiki page on the Gameboy version of Donkey Kong states that "This will be the last appearance of the Original Donkey Kong".
Another great video! Nice job!