Sponges are NOT the way to drain water
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Merch available here: grimfalcon746-...
If you are still using sand and sponges to clear out huge sections of water in Minecraft, you are doing it wrong and wasting countless hours. My tutorial will teach you a faster and better way so you can stop wasting hours and enjoy the world you are building.
Want to see me live: Check out my twitch: / grimfalcon746
Want to see other gaming content and possibly some sneak peaks? Check out my bluesky: bsky.app/profi...
I didn't even know honey and slime blocks didn't stick to glazed terracotta, I learned something new.
Same! I wonder what it’s glazed with 🤔
They don't stick to... EDIT: oh wait never mind I'm dumb. 😅
Honestly just use moss, its cheaper and faster to clear
It's still pushable tho unlike moss
They are also pushable by pistons, but cannot be pulled by sticky pistons. Interesting behavior
Step 1: build a slime farm
By the point you drain a momument, I sure hope you have a slime farm
Step 2 Get a honey farm (seriously I can't find many bee hives).
Either need to build a slime farm or mine a ton of sand to do it the other way, so the set up time is relatively similar anyways. You can get away with a rather small slime farm, provided you have the time to AFK a bit longer.
You can also cause them to generate (although i dont know the rates.) By putting a flower next to a sapling and letting the tree grow (or growing it with bone meal.) The hive will then generate on the tree.
This comment was supposed to be bad? "Step 1: Be an inefficient player and do everything the hard way" is what I read 😂
I see a lot of comments talking about the downsides, but I think that's only because it's a bit situational--use this first for larger areas and then do clean-up using other blocks. Simple. This is a really great method, and can be used (carefully) with lava too. This is a great video to remind us of some of the tools we have!
Completely agree, this is great for large open areas of water, cleaning up near walls/floor sponges would be effective there.
Team Magma will put this to good use!
there are cheaper ways to use flying machines for this type of work
Using it for lava is an absolutely brilliant idea! Those lava lakes in the nether won’t know what hit them!
@goldenweeb2081 can you explain them?
It's a good tutorial for removing water if you're just getting rid of one huge space, but not so effective for monuments
That’s fr what he said within the first 20 seconds of the video 😂
for the inside use sponges, outside perimeter, this.
sponge inside then fill it with 27 stacks of tnt
I like the way you think!
Yupp, more useful for large open areas of water, smaller areas with wildly uneven terrain or structures this method isn't really a good option
Me seeing this after raiding an ocean monument for the first time to get sponges:
Your profile picture portrays the exact face I believe someone would make in the situation
the resource gathering alone is more inefficient than just using sponges
Depends if you're already farming 🤷🏻♂️
Someone who builds lots of machines will have slime and honey stockpiles already
But yeah, too bad if you weren't already farming...
Isnt it harder to get the sponges?lol
But you can take this machine apart at the end and now you have all the materials the next time you want to do the same thing. You can also use fewer copies of the mechanism and clear it in strips.
@@ero-senninsama1734 sponges are definitely harder to get overall, as they can't be farmed
Gathering sponges is even worse than this
Honestly I think half this comment section is on copium from spending hours doing this with sponges
Another method is to build a huge pile of sand blocks above rows of signs and only one sign need to be broken down to make all the sand fall eventually vanishing the water below it.
Careful with that, if you don't have a quantum computer
They u might aswell just place the sand directly in the water
@@SimonOpsiexcept in their method you can place the sand in layers instead of individual stacks which could potentially be faster
@@SweetDemon11 What???
And here i am to understand this method is way too difficult than the sponge.
Actually that is pretty easy
This method is, in my opinion faster and easier, provided you are comfortable with building flying machines.
@@grimfalcon746 It is faster, more efficent and it is easier to use, just break the torch and then just wait, but the amount of time and work to build the Machine itself is so much that might be easier to just use sponges in survival and worldedit in creative.
@@T_Playz42 If you find a rhythm the machine isn't that long to build, around 10-15 minutes
@@grimfalcon746I don't think their concern is so much with building it, but rather with gathering the materials for it in a survival world
You can attach blocks next to the slime/honey to avoid water being left next to the sand wall.
Great video. I forgot this was a thing xD
You can but that puts it over the piston push limit, so you on the last row of honey/slime blocks you need a second flying machine to run the bottom half
Exactly what I needed. I'm glad it's as simple as I was hoping it would be to drain open ocean zones.
Slime farm isn't that much needed anymore, just breed ordinary animals and drop a potion of oozing on them - it spawns two slimes upon animal's death. This way you can easily get a full stack of slime blocks, repeat it a couple of times and you are covered.
I KNEW there was a reason to build a massive slime farm! 🤗
There's ALWAYS a reason to build a massive slime farm!
Great advice! I’ve done both sand & sponges and flying machines and as long as you have the materials for flying machines then they are wayyyy quicker and easier than using sand & sponges.
I definitely think Mojang should add stuff so that we are able to delete blocks more efficiently and in large quantities. They should stop adding random useless mobs and items and add stuff that will actually help in everyday gameplay.
Y’all tripping this is an excellent method of getting rid of a mass amount of water in quick succession especially in late game
Thx for the tutorial it will be helpful for me when I ever do ocean builds ^^
No problem, literally the same reason I wanted to figure out a faster way to clear water myself lol
I don't know how i would get that many slime and honey blocks, but this is a clever idea!
“Don’t do anything I wouldn’t do” 😂😂😂
I think that's a fair request! There isn't much I wouldn't do lol
I really like this and I probably wouldn't bother building walls. Just test and see how far back in the water will fill. Your flying machine might need to be longer than the space you want to clear but it's easier to build a flying machine than a wall.
Flying machines only help on smooth surfaces. Once you get down to uneven seabed, you'll have to switch to a more appropriate method. Personally, my preferred method is to build a wall around the area, then fill in a line of sand against one wall. Then a second. Then remove the first line, and turn it into the third. Then remove the second line and turn it into the fourth. Etc. Etc. Until I've worked my way all the way across the box I layed out. I guess you could still use a flying machine to get down to sea level, but every pass with the machine is going to have diminishing returns, so...
If you are clearing out a relatively small section that would work alright, it just takes more time. As I mentioned in the video if your clearing large open sections of water this would be more effecting, smaller areas with uneven terrain is another thing. Im going to try to use this to clear out the ocean monument and beyond in my survival series and see. Going to try a few methods to remove the ocean monument and hope that doesn't cause me too much hassle.
ok quick question, could you build this without glazed terracotta ? could you just build the machine away from both walls and save on the terracotta ?
also you could replace the terracotta with leaves and that would work too
Yes, and also yes 👍
Glass is better option
I guess I'll consider this if I ever get around to building a large enough slime/honey farm. Honestly not a bad technique, but it's not something you're doing until late in a playthrough.
I mean, is it really that late in a playthrough though? Slime is really easy to get these days with swamp farms and oozing potions. Honey is a bit harder, but you can put together a small one in mid-game just fine. So long as the honey farm is near your main base, you should be able to work up enough for stuff like this while working on other mid-game farms. I’d say gathering mass amounts of sand and sponges initially is way more time intensive, especially since it’s all active farming, rather than passive.
By the time I've managed to get all the items together in order to make all the oservers, slime and honey blocks, I could have drained 10-15 oceans. Neat trick in this video, but filling that water space with sand or gravel and digging it up again would take infintely less time and effort tbh.
Good thought, thank you for sharing.
Way too much slime and honey. Build self-lowering sweepers instead. You don't need side walls, only walls at either end of the flying machines, and while those walls are ideally non-sticky, something like sugarcane or pumpkin works perfectly fine. If you don't have enough non-sticky blocks, flying machines can be modified to have non-sticky "bumpers" around the slime bars. That manes them narrower, but that only means you need more return stations, which don't need to all exist at the same time either.
When I cleared out an ocean monument for the first time I used several flying machines that could clear 1 layer of water at a time paired with other flying machines that would push them 1 block down each time. It was before honey blocks existed, and I think it went way better than if I had used sponges, even though I had to mine the entire ocean monument first (But I would have to do that for the guardian farm anyway) and the guardians being really annoying.
Could you use a similar method to drain lava oceans in the Nether?
You absolutely could, this exact machine should work for that, just be careful not to burn your toes off!
Great video my man, I try to teach what I learn too and it’s an under appreciated trait…
*joe hills furiously taking notes*
Decent tutorial!
Now for some constructive feedback (because criticism sounds rude to me)
There is no "wrong" way to do anything in Minecraft IF it works. Play style varies between players. There IS an Opimised way to do things however! This is optimized for time > effort > result.
Therefore I would avoid telling players they're doing it wrong if they choose sponges. I make suggestions to alternative methods they can consider. It's more enticing to have options than "you are playing incorrectly". I prefer sponging monuments for the relaxation I get out of it (toss a good audio book or pod cast on and drift into bliss) but if I'm going to make a community guardian farm, slimestone all the way!
Overall this is a quality tutorial for beginners to easily follow along with. Great job on presentation!
Me with the fill command:
Sadly wouldn't be too effective at clearing water off a mushroom island for a mycelium-to-grass conversion.
Oh so that’s why all of the slimestone builds use glazed terracotta. I thought it was just a random block that is easy to see. Learn something new every day
How to drain a large body of water (without already being prepared to do so).
1: Spend who knows how long to find the best place to make a slime farm.
2: Spend however long it takes to build the slime farm.
3: Wait however long it takes to get hundreds of blocks worth of slimeballs.
4: Spend who knows how long finding enough bees for an efficient honey farm.
5: Spend an ungodly amount of time waiting for bees to make the equivalent of hundreds of blocks of honey.
6: Get everything over to the water you want to drain.
7: After all of that time waiting, figure out how to build the flying machine.
8: Use sponges anyway because the build leaves water behind.
I think I would rather the sand and sponges.
I do wonder if there is merit to this method in creative if the area is big enough..
You can probably use much less honey and slime but it would require you to do it 5-10 more times in different y levels
If you already have farms it's fine
@@youssefchihab1613 You missed the part where I said "without already being prepared to do so".
That meant having the farms.
yes, because gathering a stack of sponges and then gathering fuel for a super smelter and then doing the same process 500 times is so much easier
May 19th, 2024: video upload, first views and eventually reach thousands of views.
July 4th, 2024: TH-cam recommended me for this video.
This is a very clever method! Very well explained too in a calm and simple manner :)
wait, this means we can build bigger doors now? this method with the slime blocks, it seems that you can largely increase the push capacities of pistons by dividing the charge on it. would it work?
you absolutely can build huge doors with it, although the piston push limit isn't really increased, thats why you need to swap between honey and slime blocks (which do not stick to eachother) so each piston is still only pushing 12 blocks
I’m getting back into Minecraft and I was emptying out a part the nearby ocean so with sponges and that took a while but this video will help me in the future
Ok sooo... Sponges are still more efficient gotcha. Im a builder guy in survival. I only really gather resourses i need for a build when i need the resources for the build i have no plan for. Not a redstone guy so efficient resource farms are almost non-existent to me.
1. It keeps the thrill and survival aspect that made me love this game
2. Honestly i probably wouldve used a lava trick to make layers of cobble to mine instead for a build.
try including the:
finding slime spawn point and making a farm
finding bees and making a farm
bunch of non-stick block (according to this)
couple of pistons and observers
bunch scaffolding or any similar (survival)
hmm..
How would you suggest I deal with really hilly ocean floor terrain? Do I have to flatten it all? Would add a lot more work to this method.
@@crimsonfire6932 you would either need to flatten it all, use this method to take the water down to the highest point then clean up with sand and sponges, or depending on gaps use smaller versions if this machine to get into the valleys.
It's so useful u earned a sub (I don't even need this info)
Sponges are the solution to a very common problem, which is water getting places where you don't want it.
You break that large rectangle into the sponge’s absorption block space and use sponges.
Valuable info, thanks for making a video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you dont have enought resources make half the good of this is that you can make it the size that you need
If you put a row of glass down the outside edges would that let you go all the way to the end or would it exceed piston push limit?
Yep, push limit, but only because he didn't think to split the edge flying machines into two vertical units. If you just stack two at either end you can stick any block to the sides and Bob's your uncle.
@@MacroAggressor so the same engine up top you also put at the bottom? I've got an ocean drain project going and hoping to use this
@@kriddius Sure. In fact, you don't even need to trim the edges if you just make sure the corners have blocks preventing water regeneration.
Why you did not use world edit to remove the water?
thats only reason why study engineering in the Uni,
Is there a limit to how big you can build this?
I’ve done everything in this video but it’s not working n it js moves back n forward
Bedrock or java? this is on Java, not familiar with bedrock, but i have been told flying machines either don't work or work differently on bedrock.
this is unnecessarily laborious.
My apologies if my comment appeared multiple times. TH-cam gave error message when I pressed post comment.
great tutorial
I mean, in smaller amounts/tight/crowded area's I'd argue sponges still have a good use.
absolutely, as i mentioned if you are clearing out small areas, then sand and sponges are going to be better, but for large areas, this is more efficient.
he said that at the beginning
@@zack49 ikr. It even was the _very first_ thing he said.
80% of this comment section is people shitting on this brilliant, simple solution by going "I like sponges more".
I'd love to see them arduously clear an ocean with sponges while grimfalcon watches them from his lounge chair...
Can't you just build one flying part with a sponge on the end, ride it, then replace the sponge when it's wet??
I find this interesting, and yet I'll probably still use the /fill command.
Everyone is complaining like dawg have you ever had to remove large bodies of water??? This video is not for you
Folks. Just use sponges. All the slime, honey, unmovable blocks, and redstone gathering is insane. Yea it’s quick and easy if you have the proper farms and resources. That’s the IF though.
If only the server i played on didnt disable flying machines :,)
About what scale would you say the crossover point is where this becomes better? Is it above or below ocean monument size, assuming you destroy the structure separately?
Probably above, you would also need to destroy the monument first, as the monument would put the pistons over their push limit. Ill be doing this in my survival world, and probably using TNT to destroy the monument to test that, but im also going larger than that in that world so it will balance out. If the only area you are removing is the area monument than sand and sponges are probably a better option.
This is a solid method but personally as long as everything is within simulation distance I've found more success with block conveyors and simple flying machines to fill an area in with sand. It can be fully afk'd (this needs to be rebuilt every time it's done), requires less setup (no terracotta/leaves/etc) and less slime/honey.
that method would certainly work as well. rebuild time on this shouldn't be too long once you get into a rhythm (i figure around 5-10 mins per module.) but you are correct that makes it so its not afkaable
Can't you increase this thing's efficiency from 8 to 10 blocks by flipping the flying machines and moving the slime/honey blocks two down?
Pretty significant improvement imo
@grimfalcon746
1 month ago
You can but that puts it over the piston push limit, so you on the last row of honey/slime blocks you need a second flying machine to run the bottom half
@@U2B4U It does not. I was not talking about adding blocks, just moving them.
Thanks! I built this on day 1
But why not show a modular design that is extendable downwards. This is what I did when clearing out my ocean monument.
And I was just about to raid an ocean monument to get sponges in order to drain the water surrounding other ocean monuments!!!
I simply decide to not build in the ocean
Seems to be massively over engineered solution. Just getting all that stuff together negates doing it in the first place.
Not If you already have those things, and, well, it's all essential redstone components, so you'll eventually need them if you plan on making redstone stuff.
It's not over engineered at all. It's literally just a long row of flying machines. You can make it bigger or smaller to suit your needs.
saul goodman?
I once had a honey block ...
I use wheat bales and a water bucket.
Place them out in a square with about half of your total supply, then go inwards in a spiral configuration with 1 water gap until you run out, drain the line of water with the bucket, mine up the blocks, except for the 1-4 corners of the square and the 7 blocks where the water ramps along. Continue the spiral until the top layer is done, then either continue the top layer from the corner, or start the next lower layer, eventually ending in a staircase of water down to the bottom
How helpful would this be in clearing a guardian temple?
Likely not very, as you would have to remove the temple first. Working on some options for that for my survival world, but overall if you are only clearing out the temple and no area around the temple, sand and sponges would probably be better
Out of pure curiosity, who needs to clear that much ocean anyway?
well, me for starters lol
My usual ocean monument tear-down looks like this:
1. Kill elder guardians and place conduit.
2. Build Haste 2 beacon and take down the monument. While I'm at it, I might also flatten the ocean floor, if only to get rid of kelp.
3. Build walls on two sides of the area to drain.
4. Build self-lowering sweepers and run those.
5. Secure the corners. Depending on how you prepared the ocean floor, you could also do free-standing water walls.
6. Remove the sweepers and walls, and enjoy the cleared area.
Takes about a stack of slime blocks and maybe 2 hours of work at the site to make a 4x4 chunk water-free area. This assumes you have access to the secondary materials, such as a beacon, conduit and wall building blocks.
@@grimfalcon746 To each their own. But let me rephrase my question. Why would anyone need to clear that much ocean? If it's for a base, that's cool, I guess. Personally, I'd just save myself the headache and build on land, lol. Cool video by the way, I just can't see myself making use of it because of the material cost.
@@Foreign501st Im doing it for an industrial district I plan to take all the way down to bedrock, of course ocean bases are also a reason.
@@grimfalcon746 I applaud your dedication to a project of that magnitude. With my working 7 days a week and 12-16 hours each day, I don't think I'll ever have time for a project like that.
Wait, glazed terracotta not conecting to sticky blocks???
Correct glazed terracotta does not stick to honey or slime blocks
Just use moss
Getting that many slime and honey blocks would literally take sooo much longer than just using the sponges.
I wonder if there could be some kind of small flying machine that turns itself over and returns one block lower. Benefit would be less resources and building time, only drawback taking slightly longer though you could just do sth else while it is running.
Yeah those machines exist. They are mainly used for world eaters
What. Automatic Slime and honey farms are so easy and simple. You build them in your base and you have a lot of chests full of them for projects like these
Passive slime and honey farms are rather easy to build, and the time it takes to get those is not spent gathering sand so it balances out. Although as mentioned this kind of solution is better for larger areas of water.
@@Hypnostedon I guess you are all somewhat right, but that's not how everyone plays.
We have a 2 year old survival world of 4 and still have barely any farms (basically none).fun fact: All the slime and honey required for doors was proudly farmed manually.
I would really appreciate a cheaper option since draining will be required at some point for a big build. But maybe I'll just watch some tutorials and do the farms myself.
But raymondstheawesome's answer intrigues me, I'll look into it. Thanks
@@lordquadrato437few farms after 2 years? Cringe
Yeah I'm about to drain a monument and I'm tempted to go with this xd
Will need to chunkload a honey farm first though
Absolutely honey farm will be mandatory for that (mine is is the spawn chunk so its always loaded) also you will need to tear down the monument first to get it out of the way of the flying machine. but that still seems quicker than doing it with sand and sponges (currently in the middle of draining an ocean monument on my LP series)
Step 1....... Find a slime 😂
nice but too much resources man you can make a machine that goes back and forth with a mechanism that makes it go down everytime for way less stuff
How do you stop the machine after?
When it gets to the other end it automatically stops. Then you have to rebuild it to do the next section of water
all the pistons are at their push limit so once it contacts the far wall (or any other block) it will stop itself
Wait I just had a thought
Can magma blocks dry sponges?
That is a very good question (that admittedly I had to load up a test world and check). But no, they can not.
Sand duper
Nice but to complex for me
Nice, I will never use this.
Don’t you mean leave a water space
This is definitely a build for creative world or for somebody on end game that has nothing better to do with their excessive resources lol. I've been building my bases on Ocean Monument for years now(As of the moment I've already built 5 Ocean Monument bases) and I can definitely say that this method is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay slower than using Sponges lmao.
Also mining sht tons of sand is way more satisfying plus using sponges is way more convenient and more efficient if you know where to place them also if you have a nether portal nearby you can just go in and out literally seconds to place your sponges and dry them out no need to build a slime farm or honey farm which I can absolutely tell you that even building just the slime farm alone takes way more time than to drain half of the ocean monument(I didn't even count the hours you need to AFK to get this much slimes lol) and I'm not even gonna talk about the honey farm we all know how slow it is to farm honey and also to breed bees.
Very good texture pack. Love it.
Greetings from Greece 🎉
Thanks, took me a while to find one I liked. Its called coven on modrinth
Make a machine that can hit the far wall, move down one, and go back. Takes longer, but is fully automated, and can be wide instead of tall.
That is a very good idea *starts tinkering in a test world*
Not really sure it's worth the extra effort since each pass he eats eight rows of water.
@@macmcleod1188 Dude, the extra effort is 90% of the fun. Futzing around with flying pistons for 100 hours sounds like fun.
@@macmcleod1188 once designed, it’s less effort, fewer materials, can run unattended.
@@TrackedHiker I would only go back and forth 3 times with this design.
Too each their own tho.
Going back and forth makes more sense if the machine is short vertically and will make a lot of passes.
didnt u use to play with Dream and George? i feel like ive saw ur skin somewhere
I did not, the skin was one i found online though so it's possible the skin has been used elsewhere
i think its good idea, but i think its bad for low device mobile players
Thanks for the feedback, I hadn't considered that
Just /fill *** ** ** *** *** *** air and you will be fine😂
For those complaining "oh you'll need a slime farm and to gather resources.... chances are if you're trying to drain that large of an area in survival you're in a world youve already done a number of projects on... build farms they help make not just one large project easier but most. If you just start up a world and decide to drain an area that large out of the blue, well, good luck.
no wrong way to play. let people have fun.
Moses
Nice
ah i see, i need to enter creative to do it
"how to not use sponges"
Keeps referencing using sponges
Fr how dumb are you
03:42 - Am I nothing to you?
03:52 - Why do you hate me so?
?
Video title: How to over-complicate draining a temple 😂
Me, over-complicate something? I'm sure I don't know what you are talking about!
In all fairness if you are only draining an ocean monument probably not the best option.
Im about to build a large out post in the middle of an enormous ocean with a bunch of farms this method will save me 10+ hrs
The time it’ll take to get resources is probably the same spent using sponges with faster results
Bro, are you nate the hoof guy's minecraft alt account ❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️❓️🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
The people want to know...
You sound the same...
@@Dedric_Price i am not