Awesome video! I believe the beat between the beat is referring to using ghost notes on the snare, the drummer at the end playing with Miles is doing that
@@sjkdec18 he’s talking about syncopation and more commonly in jazz the swing and feeling upbeats and such not falling too often based on downbeats as they do not propel forward they come to a rest which would kill jazz.
I love that--"Wow, here I am, I get to play for Miles Davis, boy I hope he likes my trumpet playing, I've been shedding on this tune forever..."--he plays, and Miles' comment is: "What's your organ player's name?" Oof!
He didn't have the carriage Miles wants from his side men. And he was off tempo with his phrasing. The organ player was phenomenal. I'd asked about him too.
I think his question was what made Miles give up talking to him. I mean, think about it: you have Miles Davis in front of you, the person who contributed so much to music by pushing the boundaries and creating new ways of thinking and playing the music and your question is: What do you think of the EWI?
He wasn't emphatic with his playing. He didn't have a swagger to his playing. It was as if he was searching as he played and wasn't sure about his choices. And Mile's ear is always looking for that confidence in a musicians playing. That's from someone who's played with the best players for 40 years (not me, but miles did).
I just watched an interview with Jackie McLean, he said that when he auditioned for Miles in a club he was so nervous he got about 8 bars into his solo then had to run off the stage and throw up. The rhythm section kept playing, so he cleaned himself up, got back on stage and finished his solo. Miles said afterward, "I never saw anyone do that before." And he hired him.
Lol! It's not even for trumpet players. It's actually an electronic reed instrument with the fingering of a saxophone like the lyricon which is similar. Think of Tom Scott and Wayne Shorter.
A lot of musicians play a plethora of notes. Bird would play every note in the chord plus the notes of the relative chord in one bar and it was amazing. Same with Diz. That was their genius. Miles is more known for the notes he DIDN'T play. When you can paint a picture in one or two notes you are a genius. Playing the right note, at the right time, with attitude, that was Miles's genius, and it carried his music through to generations of musicians.
Miles may have shrugged him off, but JOHN SWANA is one of the GREATS to come out of Philly. Seems like a lot of people in these comments didn’t do their research before talking shit about a very prominent trumpet player of his era and now one of the best EVI players in the world. Smh.
With his sidemen, there was no in-between with Miles. A very important part of Miles’s genius was his conception of what the material needed. You had what he wanted for what he was into at the time, or you didn’t. Look back at the classic groups for Kind of Blue, Bitches Brew, Miles Ahead, Tutu, etc. Each of Miles’s musical periods and albums/concepts required drastically different musical conception, vocabulary, and presence from everyone in the group. The trumpet player on that last bit was a very fine player, but Miles heard only what Joey Defrancesco had to offer, and he lit up on it. Good (but not unique) as the trumpeter was, Miles likely heard nothing but Joey during the piece...
I don't know, man... I mean i get what happened there, how miles heard Joey DeFranc' play and zoned in on that -- but i was honestly interested in what Miles might've said about the Akai EWI (Yamaha EVS, et al). Those things -- MIDI-control-sending wind instruments -- first came out in the early 1980's and there have been many models that've come out in the decades since but really the Akai EWI is still a desirable one to get. They're not cheap either, so hearing what a serious genius player like Miles might've opined about them would be super helpful to other wind players. I've worked primarily as a keyboardist in my own bands since the late 90's, but i started off learning by learning alto sax in high school in the '80s. I often thought to buy one of those MIDI horns before -- well something more professional than the Casio DH-100 anyway, lol -- and was seriously keen to hear what Miles might say beyond "yeah, i tried one in Japan" or whatnot. Felt real sorry for that trumpet player, too. Wouldn't be surprised if he just gave up on playing after that.
Not a “getting the gig story,” but, I have a friend that played with Miles in the later years. He said that Miles made him room with him and that Miles wouldn’t let him go hang out with the other cats because he didn’t want them to corrupt him. Arsenio Hall had no fucking idea what Miles was talking about.
as a long-time musician i'd say he's right about the body language. however, saying so doesn't do much to promote learning music in general. everyone was born musical and still is. the way they breathe, walk, chew food, have sex, type on a keyboard etc. we're just told too often it's a gift and we don't get to speak it enough with native experts like we do our spoken languages. regardless, we sure miss you miles!
Ya, a lot of people get told too early or too strongly that they just "can't" sing or just "don't" have rhythm and it really is effective at killing a certain spirit
@@weatheranddarkness totally....unless you are truly tone deaf....and there are people that are...I believe anyone can learn any instrument and become proficient. That also includes things like song writing and arranging. They are all learned skills. Even "creativity".
I loathe reading the "technical" comments. Miles was CLASSICALLY and PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED. HE EVEN ATTENDED JULLIARD! His playing through the 40s and early 50s show his technical abilities, but what got from the mid 50s to the 70s was a musician and artist creating new music. In the 80s, Miles didn't have to perform at that technical level, as he created or played his music with melody, texture, space and feeling, as he'd done so earlier in his career. You went to a Miles show for the creative process and creativity of his bandmates, not a technical dissertation from robotic college student musicians. A ton of his shows are online, and they are bootlegged. Miles always said the truth will come after he was gone. Stop listening to only the album releases, and do some research on various eras of his music.
Homer: Are you really the head of Kwik-E-Mart? Head of Kwik-E-Mart: Yes. Trumpet Player: What do you think of the EWI? Miles Davis: Who's your organ player?
Miles Davis was mean. No other way to put it. It would be interesting to hear John Swana’s take on this today. He’s a great jazz trumpet player. If you don’t believe me, check out his burning contributions to Chris Potter’s 1993 debut album on Criss Cross, where the very same bassist from this clip (Christian McBride) is also a side man! My favorite Miles is the early years when he was trying to hang with Bird and Trane (and always kind of coming in last place but still getting the job done). It felt like he was striving then. It felt earnest and exciting, rather than like someone trying to be cool, which is what I get from the various interviews in this clip and the music he was making at the time of these interviews. His modal period and the cool jazz period were great too. But by the end he had turned into a caricature of the great artíste, saying meaningless stuff like “there has to be a beat between the beat” and expecting people to accept it as deep wisdom. These are just opinions, of course, and nothing more than one guy’s opinions, but that’s what I see when I watch this (kind of sad) video.
@@yesfan157 that's what he really said apparently. I guess we'll never know. The interesting thing is that whatever he actually said, he inspired Herbie so much that it lifted him out from the stagnant place he was, musically.
Absolutely true. Miles picked guys on basis of showmanship as well as chops. Herbie looked good. Shorter was same height as Miles. Tony was young. They were also good, but not as good as Wyn Kelly or Paul Chambers
" The sound in between " are called "Ghost notes ". Its a very subtle note or sound that is played in between the main ones. RIP Mr. Davis. The world misses your sound and genius . 🙏
a legend indeed, but as a drummer, nothing cracks me up more than non drummer musicians coming up with arbitrary nonsensical wisdom about drumming that doesnt actually make any sense like "there HAS to be a BEAT inBETWEEN the BEAT" is complete gibberish, that could mean literally anything, maybe hes talking about ghost notes, who knows.
Thanks Dan ... with all do respect Miles talked a lot of spaced out gibberish for sure ... Dick Cavett and Arsenio Hall both seemed a bit perplexed to me lol ... I asked my friend Ricky Wellman (RIP) what it was like working for Miles ... his answer "Miles aint the easiest guy to work for" ... reminds me of another buddy who played drums for James Brown for a long time telling me all the wacked out stuff Brown would say and do ... seems as though superstardom can mess with a cat's mind ... as in taking yourself too seriously as starstruck fans feel inclined to take your every word as this profound wisdom of the ages ... it's not
Yeah, you are right. That was Miles just babbling garbage. I wonder if he told his horn players: “Listen…there has to be a NOTE when you play the NOTE !” Ooooh. Deep thoughts.
@@lincolnrossmusic to be fair, Miles Davis is one of the best musical geniuses to ever walk on Earth, James Brown was just a great singer with excellent taste for music. In terms of understanding of music they were worlds apart. Miles may have not expressed himself very well there, but he surely meant something very specific. Any drummer who ever worked with him would have explained what he meant.
@@Sobchak2 if you feel 'Miles Davis was one of the best musical geniuses to ever walk on Earth' ... well great! ...I'm sure most jazz fans agree but not all ... also in comparing Miles and Brown I was referring to the enormous impact both had and the huge resulting egos ... but as far their understanding of music that's interesting to me too ... Brown understood how to be make funky danceable music whereas Miles didn't really (although he tried in his later years) ... as you say they were indeed worlds apart
So what? He didn't even say that he invented it, just that it was something he often said. If Miles uses someone as an example he must have good reasons.
"It looks like the first few theatregoers are emerging from the play now. Let's see how they liked it. Sir? How did you like 'Miles Davis, Charlie Rangel, and Chewbacca: Together Again'?" "Well... I couldn't understand a goddamn thing any of 'em said." "None of them?" "Maybe Chewbacca a little bit."
Nice accompanying by Joey there.... gotta take your chances, dog eat dog and all that, but can't help feel that being a bit of a d@# move tbh.... what's other people reckon?!
It sucks that the first thing he mentioned was “carriage,” referring to basically the embouchure angle of the player, which honestly isn’t rly something we have control over :-/
Vigilance Brandon agreed but it also shows how in many instances tv presenters are just not very good at trying to get to grips with anything outside mainstream thought.
I've read interviews where Miles was talking about carriage a bit more, and he's referring to how the musician walks, stands, holds the instrument, etc. I guess he's talking about a certain "body sense" that would reflect how the musician would feel (or not feel) the music. I don't know, it's pretty obscure. But if carriage is important for a musician, I'm a lost cause.
Jude F. Yeah, that would make more sense. The specific example he used in the video though seems to be less “stance” (at least for trumpet players) and more just embouchure. At any rate, I think it’s kind of ironic that he says that stuff considering his stage presence in the last clip, which is, to say the least, rather underwhelming.
@@vigilancebrandon Yeah, he used to have a lot better bearing on stage before his retirement in '75, before he started having all the hip problems and surgeries, etc. Plus age. When he first came back in the '80s he did that strange thing of crouching down and bending over when he played, I guess it's what he had to do to get the notes out. But he was in great physical form in the mid- to late '60s.
in several interviews Miles later explained that his position/attitude on stage and while playing had more to do with him hearing the trumpet's sound/feedback the way he wanted, in detriment of turning his back to the audience, moving around or looking odd. of course, in that phase he could afford to do whatever he wanted without worrying if it would affect his career. I agree it's contradictory that his usual stance (trumpet pointing down) was not the carriage he wanted to see in a prospective bandmate, but again, he was the one choosing people, and attitude/confidence was paramount to him
An NPR host named Audie Cornish. This interview with Christian McBride is mentioned in this article: www.npr.org/2015/07/31/428151118/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-child-prodigy-in-jazz
You've got the world's best trumpet player in front of you and you would ask how to improve your own playing, rather than asking about his playing? Ask about him, not about yourself. The way you improve is by practicing more, there's no secret Miles could tell you.
@@dylanphillips9659 yes...a critique from someone with his ear could advance my playing further than just about anyone in the world. Notice his ear heard how advanced the organ player was. And that's why a really great player always looks for critical assessment from better players.
@@allen6924 A good player doesn't make a good teacher. Whenever Miles is asked about music in interviews he gives cryptic and obtuse answers, he wouldn't analyse and breakdown your playing or technique, he'd give some whack answers that you'd have to decipher yourself.
Why in God’s name would you ask Miles Davis about some random new trumpet technology. I mean maybe he had a point before miles interrupted him, but man, idk
Cavett is such a tool. Miles is literally giving him a huge lesson in how to be great at your craft...any craft...and Cavett doesn't even know if he's serious.
Dick simply wasn’t tuned into Miles’ frequency at the time. I wouldn’t characterize him as a tool at all, that’s being cruel to someone who IS tuned into many frequencies, literature, film, comedy, etc………he’s a very smart man.
I've always felt a connection to Miles Davis. I'm not really a jazz guy, but Miles Davis isn't even jazz to me it's better I can't really explain it very well. But that sort of modal and minimal style has always been what Im drawn to in music. So while I don't play jazz, I have Miles Davis influence as a part of alot of what I do
You ask Miles Davis on broadcast television in a once in a lifetime opportunity what he thinks about an electric trumpet???? Thats like asking Gordon Ramsay on national television in a once in a lifetime opportunity "so what do you think about 3d printed meat?" Of course hes gonna ask "whats the name of your sous chef?
If music was like sport you’d be right. But it isn’t. Miles managed to create beautiful art decade on decade, that didn’t resemble the decade previous. This is so difficult to achieve that there aren’t many artists who have ever managed to do it. He was also a bringer together of personnel and trained up multiple leaders from within his ranks. The net effect of his existence was a physical legacy (his music itself) and a human resource legacy (the subsequent success of his alumni players and their resulting careers and contributions). These legacies point to a stunning success that negates any claims of hype or undeserved recognition.
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Thanks for the upload. Do you now where I can learn what Miles means when he talks about "the beat between the beat"? I'm so curious!!
Awesome video! I believe the beat between the beat is referring to using ghost notes on the snare, the drummer at the end playing with Miles is doing that
@@sjkdec18 he’s talking about syncopation and more commonly in jazz the swing and feeling upbeats and such not falling too often based on downbeats as they do not propel forward they come to a rest which would kill jazz.
I love that--"Wow, here I am, I get to play for Miles Davis, boy I hope he likes my trumpet playing, I've been shedding on this tune forever..."--he plays, and Miles' comment is: "What's your organ player's name?" Oof!
The one and only Joey de francesco!
killer
He didn't have the carriage Miles wants from his side men. And he was off tempo with his phrasing. The organ player was phenomenal. I'd asked about him too.
I think his question was what made Miles give up talking to him. I mean, think about it: you have Miles Davis in front of you, the person who contributed so much to music by pushing the boundaries and creating new ways of thinking and playing the music and your question is: What do you think of the EWI?
He wasn't emphatic with his playing. He didn't have a swagger to his playing. It was as if he was searching as he played and wasn't sure about his choices. And Mile's ear is always looking for that confidence in a musicians playing. That's from someone who's played with the best players for 40 years (not me, but miles did).
I just watched an interview with Jackie McLean, he said that when he auditioned for Miles in a club he was so nervous he got about 8 bars into his solo then had to run off the stage and throw up. The rhythm section kept playing, so he cleaned himself up, got back on stage and finished his solo. Miles said afterward, "I never saw anyone do that before." And he hired him.
Do you have the video? Sounds interesting
@@loststylus7641 also looking for it.
I If i find it I'll share it, but hopefuly Jude could share.
Talk about bouncing back.
@@MiguelBaptista1981 I posted the link for it, above.
Miles: I never saw anyone do that before.
Jackie: thanks, you mean the solo right?
Miles: no
Jackie: oh...
3:06 the trumpet guy looks so sad.. miles is a savage xD
It might have been that stupid question about the synth trumpet that underwhelmed him.
Yeah that was some cringe right there
Life of Brian Lol John was terrified
Lol! It's not even for trumpet players. It's actually an electronic reed instrument with the fingering of a saxophone like the lyricon which is similar. Think of Tom Scott and Wayne Shorter.
Drivethebeat they make valve ones as well, the EWI is just more common
@@deadheadok14 He probably should have bought or borrowed one to demonstrate.
Getting back to this video after hearing of Joey passing. So sad, I can't believe it. Rest in Power maestro.
His voice is raspier than Abella Danger on a good day...
If you know...
HAHAHAHA
Man. Imagine doing a trumpet solo for miles and he asks who the organist is
A lot of musicians play a plethora of notes. Bird would play every note in the chord plus the notes of the relative chord in one bar and it was amazing. Same with Diz. That was their genius. Miles is more known for the notes he DIDN'T play. When you can paint a picture in one or two notes you are a genius. Playing the right note, at the right time, with attitude, that was Miles's genius, and it carried his music through to generations of musicians.
I remember Artie Shaw saying in an interview "no one plays the trumpet better than Dizzy, but Miles is a poet."
John Downs i dug this comment
First lesson: play what you hear
Last lesson: play what you don't hear
Simple!
Ok.
@@kyledavidson8712 it's more like "play what you hear, don't play what you don't hear"
Poor trumpet player, he just left
Good to hear some love for the late, great Bob Berg. I still miss him.
That kid was mad when Miles asked about the organist lol. What a trumpet player
Who? The kid?
John Swana
Miles may have shrugged him off, but JOHN SWANA is one of the GREATS to come out of Philly. Seems like a lot of people in these comments didn’t do their research before talking shit about a very prominent trumpet player of his era and now one of the best EVI players in the world.
Smh.
Love how everyone has to lean over and listen to miles like he is a god whispering some sort of truth that will never be repeated.
He had a vocal cord surgery and didn't follow doctor's orders and kept talking
With his sidemen, there was no in-between with Miles.
A very important part of Miles’s genius was his conception of what the material needed.
You had what he wanted for what he was into at the time, or you didn’t.
Look back at the classic groups for Kind of Blue, Bitches Brew, Miles Ahead, Tutu, etc.
Each of Miles’s musical periods and albums/concepts required drastically different musical conception, vocabulary, and presence from everyone in the group.
The trumpet player on that last bit was a very fine player, but Miles heard only what Joey Defrancesco had to offer, and he lit up on it.
Good (but not unique) as the trumpeter was, Miles likely heard nothing but Joey during the piece...
loved your comment, thanks so much!
Wow, that's John Swana getting blasted by Miles. John is a badass!
"what s your organ player s name?" LMAO! I didn't see that coming 🤣🎺🎹 Ultimate put down!
A bad question asked but also maybe a bit of shade thrown back due to knowing the kid may rival him soon 😁
dude had ONE QUESTION to ask to MILES DAVIS and he’s like “so have you heard of the electric valve instrument?”
That was a waste of an opportunity to learn. I'd asked him what he thought about my playing, and how he thought I could improve. Simple
I don't know, man... I mean i get what happened there, how miles heard Joey DeFranc' play and zoned in on that -- but i was honestly interested in what Miles might've said about the Akai EWI (Yamaha EVS, et al). Those things -- MIDI-control-sending wind instruments -- first came out in the early 1980's and there have been many models that've come out in the decades since but really the Akai EWI is still a desirable one to get. They're not cheap either, so hearing what a serious genius player like Miles might've opined about them would be super helpful to other wind players.
I've worked primarily as a keyboardist in my own bands since the late 90's, but i started off learning by learning alto sax in high school in the '80s. I often thought to buy one of those MIDI horns before -- well something more professional than the Casio DH-100 anyway, lol -- and was seriously keen to hear what Miles might say beyond "yeah, i tried one in Japan" or whatnot.
Felt real sorry for that trumpet player, too. Wouldn't be surprised if he just gave up on playing after that.
@@keykrazy he did not give up, thats John Swana!! Still dominates the Philly scene
@@keykrazy john swana- became one of the greatest EVI players ever
I think it's good he asked the question he was curious about instead of asking the "correct" question that others would find suitable.
My favourite type of Davis is the one that played with Coltrane in the late 50s and early 60s.
Peter Gabriel said just the way phil sat at the drums he knew he could play
Keyboardist took over from the start without trying
Not a “getting the gig story,” but, I have a friend that played with Miles in the later years. He said that Miles made him room with him and that Miles wouldn’t let him go hang out with the other cats because he didn’t want them to corrupt him.
Arsenio Hall had no fucking idea what Miles was talking about.
as a long-time musician i'd say he's right about the body language. however, saying so doesn't do much to promote learning music in general. everyone was born musical and still is. the way they breathe, walk, chew food, have sex, type on a keyboard etc. we're just told too often it's a gift and we don't get to speak it enough with native experts like we do our spoken languages.
regardless, we sure miss you miles!
Ya, a lot of people get told too early or too strongly that they just "can't" sing or just "don't" have rhythm and it really is effective at killing a certain spirit
@@weatheranddarkness totally....unless you are truly tone deaf....and there are people that are...I believe anyone can learn any instrument and become proficient. That also includes things like song writing and arranging. They are all learned skills. Even "creativity".
I loathe reading the "technical" comments. Miles was CLASSICALLY and PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED. HE EVEN ATTENDED JULLIARD!
His playing through the 40s and early 50s show his technical abilities, but what got from the mid 50s to the 70s was a musician and artist creating new music. In the 80s, Miles didn't have to perform at that technical level, as he created or played his music with melody, texture, space and feeling, as he'd done so earlier in his career.
You went to a Miles show for the creative process and creativity of his bandmates, not a technical dissertation from robotic college student musicians. A ton of his shows are online, and they are bootlegged.
Miles always said the truth will come after he was gone. Stop listening to only the album releases, and do some research on various eras of his music.
To a non-musician, this was a fairly technical analysis of Miles’ career.
@@jamessidney2851 technically, yes 😎
it's not that Joey was just technically amazing... he was telling a story. Miles HEARD that.
Homer: Are you really the head of Kwik-E-Mart?
Head of Kwik-E-Mart: Yes.
Trumpet Player: What do you think of the EWI?
Miles Davis: Who's your organ player?
His voice sounds like the breaths you take while constipated
I felt all kinds of wrong when I laughed at this statement
Cold as ice...Miles Legend
Miles could always spot talent, I wish he also would have said, who's the bass player? !
Haha the trumpet player didn’t even answer miles question even though he knew the answer. He was like screw the keyboard player doood what about me
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Miles Davis was mean. No other way to put it.
It would be interesting to hear John Swana’s take on this today. He’s a great jazz trumpet player. If you don’t believe me, check out his burning contributions to Chris Potter’s 1993 debut album on Criss Cross, where the very same bassist from this clip (Christian McBride) is also a side man!
My favorite Miles is the early years when he was trying to hang with Bird and Trane (and always kind of coming in last place but still getting the job done). It felt like he was striving then. It felt earnest and exciting, rather than like someone trying to be cool, which is what I get from the various interviews in this clip and the music he was making at the time of these interviews. His modal period and the cool jazz period were great too. But by the end he had turned into a caricature of the great artíste, saying meaningless stuff like “there has to be a beat between the beat” and expecting people to accept it as deep wisdom. These are just opinions, of course, and nothing more than one guy’s opinions, but that’s what I see when I watch this (kind of sad) video.
I agree he threw the whole beat between the beat in to try be like Yoda
That dude put Miles on the spot with his question. Miles seems to just want to be mysterious with his weird answers and indulgent manner.
Saw Joey playing some tunes at NAMM earlier this year. Had never heard of him before and this video makes me appreciate his playing so much more
Well there is actually an answer: "Do not play the butter notes!"
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Haha love that story.
@@yesfan157 that's what he really said apparently. I guess we'll never know.
The interesting thing is that whatever he actually said, he inspired Herbie so much that it lifted him out from the stagnant place he was, musically.
@@Sobchak2 Indeed! Herbie's autobiography is a great read.
Wow...@ 4:05 - Young Joey D sans goatee looking a lot like Jay Leno!
Miles Davis is one of those cultural icons only really appreciated by people with good taste.
Absolutely true. Miles picked guys on basis of showmanship as well as chops. Herbie looked good. Shorter was same height as Miles. Tony was young. They were also good, but not as good as Wyn Kelly or Paul Chambers
Absolute nonsense
Saw Miles in Melbourne around that time, 88 I think,
Thanks man, I enjoyed that!
" The sound in between " are called "Ghost notes ". Its a very subtle note or sound that is played in between the main ones. RIP Mr. Davis. The world misses your sound and genius . 🙏
“Who the organist?” 🤗
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a legend indeed, but as a drummer, nothing cracks me up more than non drummer musicians coming up with arbitrary nonsensical wisdom about drumming that doesnt actually make any sense like "there HAS to be a BEAT inBETWEEN the BEAT" is complete gibberish, that could mean literally anything, maybe hes talking about ghost notes, who knows.
I think that’s what he may have meant. Ghost notes to keep the chatter cooking behind the groove.
Thanks Dan ... with all do respect Miles talked a lot of spaced out gibberish for sure ... Dick Cavett and Arsenio Hall both seemed a bit perplexed to me lol ... I asked my friend Ricky Wellman (RIP) what it was like working for Miles ... his answer "Miles aint the easiest guy to work for" ... reminds me of another buddy who played drums for James Brown for a long time telling me all the wacked out stuff Brown would say and do ... seems as though superstardom can mess with a cat's mind ... as in taking yourself too seriously as starstruck fans feel inclined to take your every word as this profound wisdom of the ages ... it's not
Yeah, you are right. That was Miles just babbling garbage. I wonder if he told his horn players: “Listen…there has to be a NOTE when you play the NOTE !” Ooooh. Deep thoughts.
@@lincolnrossmusic to be fair, Miles Davis is one of the best musical geniuses to ever walk on Earth, James Brown was just a great singer with excellent taste for music. In terms of understanding of music they were worlds apart.
Miles may have not expressed himself very well there, but he surely meant something very specific. Any drummer who ever worked with him would have explained what he meant.
@@Sobchak2 if you feel 'Miles Davis was one of the best musical geniuses to ever walk on Earth' ... well great! ...I'm sure most jazz fans agree but not all ... also in comparing Miles and Brown I was referring to the enormous impact both had and the huge resulting egos ... but as far their understanding of music that's interesting to me too ... Brown understood how to be make funky danceable music whereas Miles didn't really (although he tried in his later years) ... as you say they were indeed worlds apart
what a cool video! thank you!
If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis 😏
"I award you no points... and may God have mercy on your soul"
RIP Joey DeFrancesco
Don't Joey De"Franco" my man... may his soul rest in piece🙏
Questlove should have been with Joey and Christian - they all went to High School together.
True true, but he was probably busy busking with Black Thought vs. working that swing 😄
That was some music department. McBride, defranco, questlove...
Docta put me on milk, cream and alcohol while listening to 2-4 hours of Mr Davis each day
"Duhhhh miles no play fast, not technical"
TH-cam commenters man
Yessir
Miles Davis is the GOAT for people who like bad music.
beat within the beat
And I thought my teachers were just being old heads when they said miles was the coolest guy right next to MJ
Ahahaaa “what’s the organ players name?” Rip
Always hated it when he referenced Prince (R.I.P.) with unearned accolades..
JAMES BROWN INVENTED "ON THE ONE".
So what?
He didn't even say that he invented it, just that it was something he often said. If Miles uses someone as an example he must have good reasons.
@@wea69420 Dude chill out! Maybe you should go listen to "So What".
@@Drivethebeat oh I'm chill dude, don't worry. It just feels like an unnecessary jab at someone who doesn't deserve it.
Cool clips ♥️🎺
Arsenio had no idea what he was talking about
Blonde guy DISSSSSSSMISSSSSSSSED! OUCH!
My one question to Miles would have been "don't you think you should be behind bars for pimping out young girls and beating up women continuously?"
"It looks like the first few theatregoers are emerging from the play now. Let's see how they liked it. Sir? How did you like 'Miles Davis, Charlie Rangel, and Chewbacca: Together Again'?"
"Well... I couldn't understand a goddamn thing any of 'em said."
"None of them?"
"Maybe Chewbacca a little bit."
Dewey needs subtitles? Pull-EEEZ!
Of course Miles is kidding on stance...he liked to play those games. Poor Dick Cavette.
ever noticed he looks like fareed zakaria
Poor guy on trumpet
OH THAT'S JOEY DEFRANCESCO SHIT PITTSBURGH CAT I SEE HIM ALL THE TIME
I would've asked if I could have the name of his tailor.
Ghost notes beat between the beat
ugh it sucks meeting your heros.. 😆
Nice accompanying by Joey there.... gotta take your chances, dog eat dog and all that, but can't help feel that being a bit of a d@# move tbh.... what's other people reckon?!
That is how Joe got the gig!!
Brilliant RIP
Miles was high af during most of those clips...lol...still a king of his craft though!
#RESPECT
Miles didn't get high after 1978... He did it all prior. He was a health nut at this time.
Did he hust quote prince 😳
Is this John Swana?
yes it is!
It sucks that the first thing he mentioned was “carriage,” referring to basically the embouchure angle of the player, which honestly isn’t rly something we have control over :-/
Vigilance Brandon agreed but it also shows how in many instances tv presenters are just not very good at trying to get to grips with anything outside mainstream thought.
I've read interviews where Miles was talking about carriage a bit more, and he's referring to how the musician walks, stands, holds the instrument, etc. I guess he's talking about a certain "body sense" that would reflect how the musician would feel (or not feel) the music. I don't know, it's pretty obscure. But if carriage is important for a musician, I'm a lost cause.
Jude F. Yeah, that would make more sense. The specific example he used in the video though seems to be less “stance” (at least for trumpet players) and more just embouchure. At any rate, I think it’s kind of ironic that he says that stuff considering his stage presence in the last clip, which is, to say the least, rather underwhelming.
@@vigilancebrandon Yeah, he used to have a lot better bearing on stage before his retirement in '75, before he started having all the hip problems and surgeries, etc. Plus age. When he first came back in the '80s he did that strange thing of crouching down and bending over when he played, I guess it's what he had to do to get the notes out. But he was in great physical form in the mid- to late '60s.
in several interviews Miles later explained that his position/attitude on stage and while playing had more to do with him hearing the trumpet's sound/feedback the way he wanted, in detriment of turning his back to the audience, moving around or looking odd. of course, in that phase he could afford to do whatever he wanted without worrying if it would affect his career. I agree it's contradictory that his usual stance (trumpet pointing down) was not the carriage he wanted to see in a prospective bandmate, but again, he was the one choosing people, and attitude/confidence was paramount to him
What is the name of Miss 3:33?
An NPR host named Audie Cornish. This interview with Christian McBride is mentioned in this article: www.npr.org/2015/07/31/428151118/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-child-prodigy-in-jazz
That was a waste of an opportunity to learn. I'd asked him what he thought about my playing, and how he thought I could improve. Simple
Agree
You've got the world's best trumpet player in front of you and you would ask how to improve your own playing, rather than asking about his playing?
Ask about him, not about yourself.
The way you improve is by practicing more, there's no secret Miles could tell you.
@@dylanphillips9659 yes...a critique from someone with his ear could advance my playing further than just about anyone in the world. Notice his ear heard how advanced the organ player was. And that's why a really great player always looks for critical assessment from better players.
@@allen6924 A good player doesn't make a good teacher. Whenever Miles is asked about music in interviews he gives cryptic and obtuse answers, he wouldn't analyse and breakdown your playing or technique, he'd give some whack answers that you'd have to decipher yourself.
Beat it white boy now who's the keyboard player? 😆🤣
Its nice to know that white trumpet player went on to be dope despite miles glancing over him
Yeah.
It's so good to finally see
that the world
appreciates White people. 🤗
Is that Joey defrancesco as a kid
2:07 John Swana on trumpet
The 1st time Miles met Joey DeFrancesco. Few months later Miles hired the 17-years old Joey for his world tour, and the rest is history.
Joey is as heavy as Miles...and that's not something I say lightly...
Loudest clothes ever
Don't F with Miles!
He said Joey DeFranco 🤦🏽
Why in God’s name would you ask Miles Davis about some random new trumpet technology. I mean maybe he had a point before miles interrupted him, but man, idk
Cavett is such a tool. Miles is literally giving him a huge lesson in how to be great at your craft...any craft...and Cavett doesn't even know if he's serious.
Dick simply wasn’t tuned into Miles’ frequency at the time. I wouldn’t characterize him as a tool at all, that’s being cruel to someone who IS tuned into many frequencies, literature, film, comedy, etc………he’s a very smart man.
Cavett is responsible for some of the best interviews of the era. He let people speak and always played the everyman. Cavett deserves respect.
So he never gave advice to that trumpet player? ):
Not even a roast? ):
People who ride horses know if someone can’t ride a horse. Its not riding a bike now is it 🤔
Oh boy, seems as if all the Cocaine has melted Miles' Brain.
sorry, what? getting the high with miles?
great video, you can’t teach cool
he is a genius but them clothes tho.......smh
He was MILES DAVIS. He could wear ANYTHING he wanted! He knew that !!!!
I've always felt a connection to Miles Davis. I'm not really a jazz guy, but Miles Davis isn't even jazz to me it's better
I can't really explain it very well. But that sort of modal and minimal style has always been what Im drawn to in music. So while I don't play jazz, I have Miles Davis influence as a part of alot of what I do
You ask Miles Davis on broadcast television in a once in a lifetime opportunity what he thinks about an electric trumpet????
Thats like asking Gordon Ramsay on national television in a once in a lifetime opportunity "so what do you think about 3d printed meat?"
Of course hes gonna ask "whats the name of your sous chef?
Especially when the sous chef is Mario Batali.
Miles Davis was hype. Not a great trumpet player and not a great personality. He s fame was centered around his wierdness.
My two favorite Miles recordings are his entire Prestige catalog and his entire Columbia catalog. You should consider checking those out.
If music was like sport you’d be right. But it isn’t.
Miles managed to create beautiful art decade on decade, that didn’t resemble the decade previous. This is so difficult to achieve that there aren’t many artists who have ever managed to do it. He was also a bringer together of personnel and trained up multiple leaders from within his ranks. The net effect of his existence was a physical legacy (his music itself) and a human resource legacy (the subsequent success of his alumni players and their resulting careers and contributions). These legacies point to a stunning success that negates any claims of hype or undeserved recognition.
This guy was ignorant and rude and I wouldn't give two seconds to listen to his garbage. He speaks funny too.
Agreed.
Besides...Elvis was a better musician, right?
The trumpet solo was too bland. Too nice. No personality.