Bara, you should not look at your matchscore, but at the damage of Lrm boats. In the second game, the trebuchet has 900 damage points, and the main reason is you
For those of you telling him to call out the NARCs: he did, several times. But he honestly shouldn't have to very often. If you're a LRM boat, you're already near the back line, not contributing armor for your team or taking a ton of shots. All you're doing is scanning icons to get a lock. Finding that NARC beacon should be *extremely* easy. Especially if he calls out even one, because after that you'll be scanning for them the whole game. All he should really have to say is that he got a NARC on someone. The rest should be cake for a LRM boat to find the beacon and go to town, given that most LRMers don't bother trying to get their own targets anyway. And before you guys get mad, one of my first 'mechs was a LRM boat (medium). And I got my OWN targets.
its true that the narc beacon is like a magnet for people's attention, but its also very helpful to give some awareness of what the target's situation is- I always try to call out if they're in the open or in partial cover so people can choose their targets
Panther resistance mech. Erppc and narc one ton ammo light engine 200? I think? 3 jump jets 1 ton narc ammo. Erppc to decloak stealth and narc those sneaky locusts and fleas :3
Instead of calling the mech that is marked, call the designation. “Wolfhound narcd” is less direct than “kilo narcd”. People will just cycle targets until they see a k.
Thanks for taking out a non-standard mech with an interesting build that in turn requires thoughtful play. While it doesn't always work out the way we'd like in matches this kind of play keeps things entertaining. That's why I play them, at least.
@@JayRacer Can't remember offhand but it's very slow for a Raven... like 80kph or something... But you don't need huge speed when you're stealth sniping from 500+ metres anyway.
I used to run a Raven with 2 er large lasers. Nice sniper :) I tried being a Narc bird a couple years ago and it was a fail. Noone used the opportunity for kills.
I like the NARC missile and just a shitton of LRMs. I do it on a Catapult. I shoot them in the ankle, and just turn and run, unloading LRMs. They do a 180 and hit him in the ankle until he's legged.
This has been one of the more dangerous Narc builds out there for a long time. I have set down my LRM boats from time to time just to NARC for LRM drops with my unit. Why, put a LRM specialist in a NARC/TAG boat can be very dangerous. Also medium fast bouncy mechs work well for targeting in team drops
I normally run a CPLT-C1 and love LRMs. I love the Raven but couldn’t seem to find a good build for it until now. Since I know how much I appreciate NARCs in my Catapult, it motivates me to find good NARC targets in this Raven.
@@mikeyavello5592 the ECM is nice, but I have a habit of running the 4X with MPLs and MGs with Narc or LRM 10's. That was until MRMs came out. With the 4 X you can have Jump jets. The only draw back, you have to learn how to use the intervisabilty lines and hide you movements behind cover. Hell I can hide an atlas or direwolf on alpine peaks and no one will see me coming.
The Forest Colony game was the sort of gameplay I like best from MWO. A bit of tactical positioning, some haze making stealth viable, and teamwork with scouting. Yeah, good times.
I wish I had you when I take my MAD-RV with 4 LRM-15's @_@ I wouldn't need to carry a TAG that is breaking my set bonus right now. 4 LRM15's + 4 Heavy Smalls.is devastating combo. Shoot and scoot with constant missile barrages. Pro-tip to beat the AMS's. Get at least 2 velocity quarks The faster the missiles get to the target. The AMS can't keep up to destroy them. Even with triple AMS out of 15 missiles at a range of 500m to 600m 7 to 11 missiles get tough per launcher. So a total of 28 to 44 damage in total land on target. if there was a narced mech then all the damage goes to one component of a mech. :)
its good to see some tactical play still.. missiles seem to always be nerfed... or stuck as assault boats that are expected to front line... not that i mind front lining with a lrm boat, but most of my dmg is still done best at mid to long rng....
Surprisingly, if there is proper comm established it is fun. Not sure how, but this is mech with second larges pool(iirc over 300k free) of XP I have and I have no idea when I did that.
@@bartoszbaranowski604 yea if you get a team that communicates, even if they dont have a lot of LRMs, you can really screw up the enemy's advance this is the main thing I enjoy doing in the game now, but you need a good map for it
Match 1 is a prime example of why it's usually better to just bring weapons instead of support gear in solo queue; the inconsistency from game to game. Sometimes you'll get matches where nobody uses your locks and it's a total waste of tonnage.
I dont know what I am doing wrong with my NARCs, im well within range but everytime I launch one at the enemy it seems to do nothing.... cant even lock the target. I thought NARC counters ECM, it sure as hell seems to be that way when I get hit by it from the enemy team....
NARC only works when there’s no enemy ECM nearby. So, get the ECM mech FIRST with the NARC, neutralizing the ECM, then get everyone else at your leisure.
I ran a stealth Raven with NARC and TAG. Figured I could get a good score based on supporting the team. It's painful to look at the after action and see your pilot skill rating drop.
So... I have a asimilar raven build... But with two light PPC's and stealth armor... I manage to sneak behind enemy lines... Just for so long... Because despite the fact I Narc and tag... More often than not, there aren't any LRM buddies... And I got steiner'd more often than not...
How do you know if your narc was successful or not? And how am I to get exp in this thing? Seems everyone sees me right away. I assume you have to get the skills before you can be sneaky?
Baradul, Que up the memory of MechCommander 1, You're in the Raven your lance commander said to go and take on that Timberwolf!!!! Both of you had the same reaction when that Timberwolf stopped and came around with weapons hot!! Except you had the entire vanguard swing around on ya!!! Well done! th-cam.com/video/tjBSOTYT2c4/w-d-xo.html Sir????? Ya want me to do WHAT? (rofl)
Thats ME Narc kit and Double Narc Treb for inner sphere the Narc Time with that Bad boy is so much fun and with 2 its litterally a whole team lit up like NARCoTrees
I love my NARC Raven, you're either completely useless or the most terrifying and devastating thing on the battlefield. Wallhacks + Lurm focusing +ECM negation are insane, if you get the right set up.
Im guessing this comment is pretty old but it may be because of skills. with some armor skills you can fit a bit more armor and since he showed off the mechlab before the skills page, his armor was already being effected by the skills. If you want the same armor, just get the same tiles he did in the survival tree. If that doesnt work, you likely have some small thing wrong thats increasing the weight. I say that because I was able to build this exact build build today (5/28/21). Anyway, giant ramble aside, Hope you can get it built!
@@JayRacer Hard to say. To be honest I took a break from lights to run 3 ppc vapor eagle for a while so I'm getting back used to playing lights. Meta wise, I'd say they are at least ok right now. The hard points and general build of the 3L with always be at least ok, kinda like the vapor eagle 1 or the locust pb. Idk, kinda the final summary of my rambling, I have no idea if they're still good LUL. At the very least, they can still be viable. There's probably something better but that'll always be the case so I'd say they're good enough. If your focus is casual games though, yes they totally work. Even some more meme builds have been working out a lot recently for the fast lights (the main one running 2 or 3 flamers to overheat and destroy ppc snipers). Either way, I'll stop rambling for now. I hope at least some of that info was good!
@@JayRacer I did remember one thing at least. I think all ravens got a slight armor nerf, but dont quote me on that because thats based off the difference between youtube and my game. Other than that though it doesn't look very changed.
@@orchardmomo thank you for the detailed explanation. I was thinking about it and I think the sniper raven is probably way more viable now that IS Lasers have been buffed a bit. I have the game installed but I’m a bit rusty after taking a hiatus.
Hey Bara, do you have any advice on how to fix the not working voice chat. Since some patch I can see, that people are using VOIP, but neither can I hear them, nor can they hear me. I already tried resetting all settings, chose diferent input/output devices and started the game as admin. Nothing works. In other games voicechat is working fine.
Let me tell you, the TH-cam comments section is a great place to get tech support for your install. Especially directly asking the channel creator... that is just.... mwah, perfection.
Well, we're not ALL A-Holes in Ye Ole YT Comment section... Start Here: mwomercs.com/forums/topic/190147-troubleshooting-voip/ Beyond that I'd work some more deep Searches on Google...
"trying to have a good time with nascar" .... nascar sucks,.. and in the 5% of games where that strategy really works out it still isnt a good time for anyone
Bara, you should not look at your matchscore, but at the damage of Lrm boats. In the second game, the trebuchet has 900 damage points, and the main reason is you
There's something that's just so aesthetically pleasing about the raven, its my favorite mech!
I agree. I own like 5.
Me too :D got one of each
I only have the Huginn and Muninn, but they are fun!
For those of you telling him to call out the NARCs: he did, several times. But he honestly shouldn't have to very often. If you're a LRM boat, you're already near the back line, not contributing armor for your team or taking a ton of shots. All you're doing is scanning icons to get a lock. Finding that NARC beacon should be *extremely* easy. Especially if he calls out even one, because after that you'll be scanning for them the whole game. All he should really have to say is that he got a NARC on someone. The rest should be cake for a LRM boat to find the beacon and go to town, given that most LRMers don't bother trying to get their own targets anyway.
And before you guys get mad, one of my first 'mechs was a LRM boat (medium). And I got my OWN targets.
its true that the narc beacon is like a magnet for people's attention, but its also very helpful to give some awareness of what the target's situation is- I always try to call out if they're in the open or in partial cover so people can choose their targets
Panther resistance mech. Erppc and narc one ton ammo light engine 200? I think? 3 jump jets 1 ton narc ammo. Erppc to decloak stealth and narc those sneaky locusts and fleas :3
Instead of calling the mech that is marked, call the designation. “Wolfhound narcd” is less direct than “kilo narcd”. People will just cycle targets until they see a k.
Quoth the raven, LRM some more.
Thanks for taking out a non-standard mech with an interesting build that in turn requires thoughtful play. While it doesn't always work out the way we'd like in matches this kind of play keeps things entertaining. That's why I play them, at least.
Support Raven has always been a favorite of mine.
Ravens a great mech in general
Nice seeing a light mech again. There's just something thrilling of seeing one of 'em zip around.
RVN-3L with 2 ER Large Laser. That thing is really something.
build as old as MWO itself
Cressx it really is but it’s so fun.
Mine has 3 Large Laser...
OniGanon what size engine
@@JayRacer Can't remember offhand but it's very slow for a Raven... like 80kph or something... But you don't need huge speed when you're stealth sniping from 500+ metres anyway.
Niiiiice. NARC beacons are a nasty piece of tech :) I loved messing with the AI in the old games.
I used to run a Raven with 2 er large lasers. Nice sniper :) I tried being a Narc bird a couple years ago and it was a fail. Noone used the opportunity for kills.
NARCs work better in Faction play or Group drops when you know there are coordinating LRM boats.
I went back to it today and had fun.
I like the NARC missile and just a shitton of LRMs. I do it on a Catapult. I shoot them in the ankle, and just turn and run, unloading LRMs. They do a 180 and hit him in the ankle until he's legged.
Good to see a support style build. Would love to see some more on other mechs, of all tonnage.
Check out his other videos, he covers everything
This has been one of the more dangerous Narc builds out there for a long time. I have set down my LRM boats from time to time just to NARC for LRM drops with my unit. Why, put a LRM specialist in a NARC/TAG boat can be very dangerous. Also medium fast bouncy mechs work well for targeting in team drops
I normally run a CPLT-C1 and love LRMs. I love the Raven but couldn’t seem to find a good build for it until now. Since I know how much I appreciate NARCs in my Catapult, it motivates me to find good NARC targets in this Raven.
@@mikeyavello5592 the ECM is nice, but I have a habit of running the 4X with MPLs and MGs with Narc or LRM 10's. That was until MRMs came out. With the 4 X you can have Jump jets. The only draw back, you have to learn how to use the intervisabilty lines and hide you movements behind cover. Hell I can hide an atlas or direwolf on alpine peaks and no one will see me coming.
I think your teamates were suffering from Narc-o-lepsy! 😴
nice build sneaky lights are one of the most rewarding play styles
The Forest Colony game was the sort of gameplay I like best from MWO. A bit of tactical positioning, some haze making stealth viable, and teamwork with scouting. Yeah, good times.
NARCs work better in Faction play or Group drops when you know there are coordinating LRM boats.
Why not drop LFF and a DHS and pick up Stealth? Gives you another .5 tons of ammo also.
Narc is so good on light mechs with jump jets. Just pop tart safely.
try a commando with narc and tag with stealth armor. you will make LRMs so happy. and you they will not spot you because commando is so tiny.
I wish I had you when I take my MAD-RV with 4 LRM-15's @_@ I wouldn't need to carry a TAG that is breaking my set bonus right now. 4 LRM15's + 4 Heavy Smalls.is devastating combo. Shoot and scoot with constant missile barrages. Pro-tip to beat the AMS's. Get at least 2 velocity quarks The faster the missiles get to the target. The AMS can't keep up to destroy them. Even with triple AMS out of 15 missiles at a range of 500m to 600m 7 to 11 missiles get tough per launcher. So a total of 28 to 44 damage in total land on target. if there was a narced mech then all the damage goes to one component of a mech. :)
Wisdom!
its good to see some tactical play still.. missiles seem to always be nerfed... or stuck as assault boats that are expected to front line... not that i mind front lining with a lrm boat, but most of my dmg is still done best at mid to long rng....
Ah damn, there's a player I know who runs around in basically nothing but a NARC Raven -- now I should be prepared to see a lot more of them.
Surprisingly, if there is proper comm established it is fun. Not sure how, but this is mech with second larges pool(iirc over 300k free) of XP I have and I have no idea when I did that.
@@bartoszbaranowski604 yea if you get a team that communicates, even if they dont have a lot of LRMs, you can really screw up the enemy's advance
this is the main thing I enjoy doing in the game now, but you need a good map for it
Match 1 is a prime example of why it's usually better to just bring weapons instead of support gear in solo queue; the inconsistency from game to game. Sometimes you'll get matches where nobody uses your locks and it's a total waste of tonnage.
I do a similar build with an assassin dark death with jumpjets
I loved doing narc builds, but whenever I did there were never any missile users.
still helpful intel for the team
NARCs work better in Faction play or Group drops when you know there are coordinating LRM boats.
@@Cressx Yeah, I know. Especially when nailing that pesky ECM 'mech.
@@imichael2411 Obviously. I'd mostly only bring my NARCer during events that involved missiles though and it would still happen. **shrugs** oh well.
I dont know what I am doing wrong with my NARCs, im well within range but everytime I launch one at the enemy it seems to do nothing.... cant even lock the target. I thought NARC counters ECM, it sure as hell seems to be that way when I get hit by it from the enemy team....
NARC only works when there’s no enemy ECM nearby. So, get the ECM mech FIRST with the NARC, neutralizing the ECM, then get everyone else at your leisure.
Never more quoth the Raven...
hehehe
I ran a stealth Raven with NARC and TAG. Figured I could get a good score based on supporting the team. It's painful to look at the after action and see your pilot skill rating drop.
Why not use stealth armor over the emc?
Miss ya man
Usually I only bring narc if I bring my own missiles
I’d go stealth on the armor and try to make that LL a pulse
10:40
delayed explosion? wtf lol
How much c-bills do you have?
So... I have a asimilar raven build... But with two light PPC's and stealth armor...
I manage to sneak behind enemy lines... Just for so long...
Because despite the fact I Narc and tag... More often than not, there aren't any LRM buddies... And I got steiner'd more often than not...
could it be that narc-kills only count when achieved with a missile?
How do you know if your narc was successful or not?
And how am I to get exp in this thing? Seems everyone sees me right away. I assume you have to get the skills before you can be sneaky?
Can i shoot narc with stealth armor engaged? or do I need to turn off SA before shooting narc?
you can shoot it like any other weapon. stealth armor just removes you from the radar. people can still line of sight you.
Man I really miss the daily doses :(
I LOVE RAVENS!
Everytime I bring NARCs, no one brings LURMS.
Baradul, Que up the memory of MechCommander 1, You're in the Raven your lance commander said to go and take on that Timberwolf!!!! Both of you had the same reaction when that Timberwolf stopped and came around with weapons hot!! Except you had the entire vanguard swing around on ya!!! Well done! th-cam.com/video/tjBSOTYT2c4/w-d-xo.html
Sir????? Ya want me to do WHAT? (rofl)
Hmm, support Kit Fox with ECM and Narc...
Thats ME Narc kit and Double Narc Treb for inner sphere the Narc Time with that Bad boy is so much fun and with 2 its litterally a whole team lit up like NARCoTrees
Interesting build, still it does not and will not change the fact that the Urbie is the King of the Light.
Love My K-9!!!!
I love my NARC Raven, you're either completely useless or the most terrifying and devastating thing on the battlefield. Wallhacks + Lurm focusing +ECM negation are insane, if you get the right set up.
“wallhacks”
Get a load of this guy.
..,.. well call the damn narcs. "Fafnir, Kilo, in the open" ....
Random comment for channel interaction.
I should dust off my 3L
For some reason I couldn't max out my armor like this video
Im guessing this comment is pretty old but it may be because of skills. with some armor skills you can fit a bit more armor and since he showed off the mechlab before the skills page, his armor was already being effected by the skills. If you want the same armor, just get the same tiles he did in the survival tree. If that doesnt work, you likely have some small thing wrong thats increasing the weight. I say that because I was able to build this exact build build today (5/28/21).
Anyway, giant ramble aside, Hope you can get it built!
@@orchardmomo good to hear. How are Ravens since the last patch?
@@JayRacer Hard to say. To be honest I took a break from lights to run 3 ppc vapor eagle for a while so I'm getting back used to playing lights. Meta wise, I'd say they are at least ok right now. The hard points and general build of the 3L with always be at least ok, kinda like the vapor eagle 1 or the locust pb.
Idk, kinda the final summary of my rambling, I have no idea if they're still good LUL. At the very least, they can still be viable. There's probably something better but that'll always be the case so I'd say they're good enough.
If your focus is casual games though, yes they totally work. Even some more meme builds have been working out a lot recently for the fast lights (the main one running 2 or 3 flamers to overheat and destroy ppc snipers).
Either way, I'll stop rambling for now. I hope at least some of that info was good!
@@JayRacer I did remember one thing at least. I think all ravens got a slight armor nerf, but dont quote me on that because thats based off the difference between youtube and my game. Other than that though it doesn't look very changed.
@@orchardmomo thank you for the detailed explanation. I was thinking about it and I think the sniper raven is probably way more viable now that IS Lasers have been buffed a bit. I have the game installed but I’m a bit rusty after taking a hiatus.
Always narc rhe ecm mechs if toy can
Hey Bara, do you have any advice on how to fix the not working voice chat. Since some patch I can see, that people are using VOIP, but neither can I hear them, nor can they hear me. I already tried resetting all settings, chose diferent input/output devices and started the game as admin. Nothing works. In other games voicechat is working fine.
Let me tell you, the TH-cam comments section is a great place to get tech support for your install. Especially directly asking the channel creator... that is just.... mwah, perfection.
Well, we're not ALL A-Holes in Ye Ole YT Comment section...
Start Here: mwomercs.com/forums/topic/190147-troubleshooting-voip/
Beyond that I'd work some more deep Searches on Google...
You have NARC only the rest have almost no LURMS 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The working is not narcing
It's not really the best song in the world, it's just a tribute.
"trying to have a good time with nascar" .... nascar sucks,.. and in the 5% of games where that strategy really works out it still isnt a good time for anyone
pov enemy i.imgur.com/I27lUJL.png