I’m just in awe of how much you all can do in 6 months lol how do you take a course, launch a course, do TH-cam, travel and launch a podcast LOL. We need a time management episode!
oof the tech for taiwan work i did was wild. i grinded so hard doing that work and came back to take my time on everything else. was not the easiest time this year x_x i am slowing down though! esp given last episode's discussion on winding down youtube. that was really hard to keep up with. was like over 20+ hrs a video for just editing! i don't think i'm that *great* at time management. i'm probs just above average, but i have really strong stamina for work. i think that comes from studying long hours in college haha
Just found this podcast and am loving all these episodes! I CACKLED when Eric said "money machine go BrRRrR~~" - one of the many gold nuggets of your personality, man. Iconic.
Just catching up these pods! I really enjoyed this one. Especially the conversation about the infinite half way points and the moving goal posts but then shifting your mindset to the infinite game. And just taking it one step at a time and one day at a time! I know it’s cliche but I definitely believe in how life is about the journey and not the destination too. I think about all the milestones I’ve hit, from HS graduation to College graduation, to getting that job etc. but at the end of the day, a milestone is just a milestone, and no one cares what you did or didn’t accomplish, but when you look back you can cherish the little things and the moments of joy along the way. One more thing I wanted to add was when the journey feels overwhelming to me, I do try my best to give myself a pep talk, reminding myself just to put one foot in front of the other Or not even take it one step at a time but even just one breath at a time. It keeps me going.
I started crying yesterday because I’m already feeling stuck in my 9-5 and company specifically. This pod has been super helpful to know that there are people who have taken different paths and are successful. Thank you ♥️
oh no mia!! :( idk if you're comfortable sharing more here or thru DM. i hope you're doing okay!! feeling stuck seems to be a big theme this year :( i think we all feel that way to a certain extent. keep it going!!
@@chloeshih hi Chloe! It may be a little long to include in a comment here but I could share through DMs if you’re open to it (no pressure!). I really appreciate the offer and positivity :)
I’m an older listener, not as young and sprung like you both despite Chloe’s previous podcast comments 😉. I appreciated Chloe sharing how attending an event made her feel less than or little by instinctively comparing when she’s very accomplished herself. That is all too relatable. Chloe, thank you. Eric sharing similar sentiments was kind and supportive. Seeing a male friend who is also accomplished, providing support/encouragement instead of pushing his ego, is beautiful to see. And this is constant in all the podcasts I’ve heard. Thank you for that. I’m not even in the tech industry nor am I some accomplished person trying to grow my resume or experiences. However, I have always been curious how one ends up in that field or what exactly a PM/creator/designer does. Though mostly it’s the rapport I see between the both of you that attracts me to listen.
ah i know it was an internal dialogue! i'm sure no one meant anything by it. i think my insecurities flared up at that time. thanks for listening/watching and supporting this pod!!
The desire to constantly improve is SO TRUE. I think that gets amplified with immigrant parents because if they've gotten you to where you are, then to stop improving or say "that's enough" it's time to stop and relax n enjoy, is sort of like wasted potential for both yourself and parents.. which is both good for having that drive, but probably bad for the mind over time. And the gym excuse is so relatable.. because then no matter what, you've accomplished something that's productive and an improvement of yourself that day!
As someone not in the tech or content realm, I find it interesting and refreshing to hear about moments of vulnerability/insecurity for Eric and Chloe who I view as highly successful, hardworking individuals. Admittedly, one of my initial reactions was coming off a swig of haterade ("They have it so good and make so much money and they're discussing feeling ignored??") but it really goes to show that these conversations are important, we all have our own sets of problems, and that comparison is everywhere. Keep up the lovely work & looking forward to next week :)
haha thank you for the incredibly honest comment. the "swag of haterade" made me chuckle 🤣 i'm glad you ended up enjoying the conversation! comparison truly is everywhere and is ultra ultra unhealthy 😭i keep having to remind myself that i just gotta do my own thing. that's the best way for me to combat it!!
I can resonate with Choe's desire to explore her feminine energy more. I grew up very tomboy because I was raised among my brothers and cousins who were all guys, and a family in the trades so cars, tech, and games were my thing for a while. But for the past couple of years i've been definitely exploring and leaning more into my feminine energy and I love it! Feels cool to be able to express ourselves by embracing a wide range of masculine and feminine traits. P.S. Lol it wasn't until during the pandemic did I take up learning make-up and fashion, framing them as 4-unit classes to be taken for a semester to build my foundational skill-set. It worked! So now it's not as overwhelming as before and can sometimes be fun.
I definitely feel the “I do too much but it never feels like enough”/overachiever personality as a child of immigrants. It also causes tension in my relationship where my work is taking up too much time and taking away from quality time with my fiancé. It’s so hard to just chill. I’m applying to an MBA program because I can’t accept that my very stable career is stagnant and doesn’t offer many growth opportunities.
so grateful for these podcasts, especially this one, I feel so related with the constantly trying to improve yourself to feel like things are moving forward, that part when Eric was mentioning about part of the reasons he goes to the gym and eats clean is because if everything else in his life goes south, at least he is still in shape, I feel so heard and it's crazy how we were built this way 😭
37:00 - So real I’ve been in the stages of starting an agency and have constantly been working. A lot of it is to prove to myself that I can do it. But it really does have this trade-off where I’ve only locked myself and stayed there for days on end and declined my time with others who I care about. I don’t know how to balance this well enough and consistently so hearing that really meant a lot.
I’ve never related to two people more. When Chloe shared how she felt about introducing herself to people post layoffs, I knew EXACTLY what she meant. As a person who worked in Finance it’s very much the same thing, about where you work and what you do, and so I used to be able to say “I’m Khanya, I work at Google” but post layoffs, I didn’t have my one liner. I moved into content creation too and yup you guessed it Finance people think you’re just doing dance challenges on TikTok. It’s so hard, because similar to what Eric said you’re just grinding, trying to achieve some kind of business success but it doesn’t quite reach your center. I do sooo much and I can’t tell you if I’m any closer to feeling like “I’m enough”. Anyways now that I’ve shared my diary entry to strangers on the internet 😂 I just wanna say I hope you know how helpful these episodes are.
eric, chloe, although some people might not relate to the scale of your problems, it was great to hear your honest thoughts. you showed lots of vulnerability in this episode and i totally get some of your frustrations. love you guys ❤ you inspire me lots and tons. keep going
First, hats off to Chloe for being a badass. 💓 Also, throughout the podcast, I was distracted by Eric’s cute pink paw print socks 🐾 🎀 Maybe the merch for this channel could be comfortable couch goods in pastel colors, like a pair of good old comfortable socks (must be cute!) or a giant squishy pillow. 😂
Chloe, I'm around the same age as you & honestly havent been around much girly things growing up. & i grew up in an asian household- so i understand both the pressure and struggle finding and tapping into your feminine side. I watch your videos and I legit always thought "wow i want to be girly like her." To hear you also kind of struggle with the same thing helps me realize, feminine energy is a personal thing 🩵 thank you for that small bit of clarity.
This is a normal feeling to have and sometimes it may be true; you feel like you're not living up to your potential. It's just a symptom of a much larger problem.
Thx for being so honest Chloe We all feel like we are not enough. We are too hard on ourselves I know I am my biggest critic😂 but got to drown the doubts
aww thank you! T_T we actually messed up on the color grading. i filmed in the wrong setting and we tried correcting it back. it did not work out so well x_x but i'm glad it made a *vibe* ~~
JOMO;'s content is so good! my 2 cents here: you both have very animated characters (like the uwu), on these moments, would be nice to see a frame capturing both of you guys rather than cutting into the other's reaction
I think a lot of these conclusions are very normal thoughts to have as someone in their 20s-30s. Andrew Wilkinson, the billionaire, has a book titled "Never Enough". I have a magnetic from the IKEA museum gift shop with a quote by the founder Ingvar Kamprad that says "Happiness is not reaching your goal. Happiness is being on the way." I think that truly resonates with how I'm also on a constant personal growth journey. There are certain interests I have that constantly make me feel like I'm making progress, even though it's small steps each time. I'm approaching my mid-20s and I'm looking forward to continuing to take my steps towards my ever-evolving goals. I don't like calling them goals tbh. I have mission statements for my life.
PRD for your life plan... I would love to know more about what that looks like. I've done the Odyssey Planning from Designing Your Life but I am looking for something a bit more structured and concrete.
Pov: Nothing is ever enough. Maybe, just maybe, that it is not about being enough but about short breaks. Life is a marathon :> The ending is important, but why do we have to miss out the scenery during the journey? Why must we measure the journey in one stop? Maybe multiple stops will make one feel better :) Love both of you btw! 1. Genuine 2. I like the timestamps on the TH-cam descriptions 3. Saying things not many did but politely censor off sensitive information Expertise + crisps articulation. Cheers!🎉
Older listener here. I actually came from Eric Siu’s pod with Eric, but it is really nice to listen to younger more successful people chat. No advice to give, but keep it up. Can’t wait to hear more. 🎉
My wife has the exact same thought process as Chloe. She's a CPA/ lawyer. She also gets fixated on bad situations she can't control. I have to constantly pull her out of that state of mind because she's going to mope for hours if not handled correctly. I even devised my own strategy to get her out of it. 😂 In a way, I think I'm similar to Kevin then.
Since you guys are in the same pickleball circle as LaurDIY can I suggest a WildTil9 collab!? 🙏 Jeremy had some hot takes about PMs in an old episode and as a PM myself I haven’t forgotten it 😂 would love to see you all talk about it/the perception of PMs from other business units!
@@jomopod wait I think I found it haha I guess it wasn't as detailed of a hot take as I remembered but shade was thrown and he says so himself! start at 55:00 th-cam.com/video/rdSg1Tnvzwg/w-d-xo.html
Tbh, don't worry about becoming "feminine enough"; instead, focus on figuring out what femininity means to *you* and how you want to live that out for yourself.
But can we talk about how we normalize this culture? It’s not healthy and sustainable. You’ve done so much at a young age and you still feel small? We need to stop trying to get validation from others and just done what we love.
A piece of feedback - the teal shadows are a bit much. I think it works well for Chloe's shot but not so much for Eric's. I'd tone it down by around 15-20% but that's a suggestion! Love how you both are doing color and improving the production value. You guys are just so insightful and speak to my soul. This podcast means the world to me and it makes me excited to hear what things y'all are up to! :)
Oh this was a complete mistake. We accidentally recorded in the wrong color settings and even got a colorist to try fixing this. Sorry! Next episode, we are back on normal colors!
I’m just in awe of how much you all can do in 6 months lol how do you take a course, launch a course, do TH-cam, travel and launch a podcast LOL. We need a time management episode!
Definitely need a time management segment!
oof the tech for taiwan work i did was wild. i grinded so hard doing that work and came back to take my time on everything else. was not the easiest time this year x_x
i am slowing down though! esp given last episode's discussion on winding down youtube. that was really hard to keep up with. was like over 20+ hrs a video for just editing!
i don't think i'm that *great* at time management. i'm probs just above average, but i have really strong stamina for work. i think that comes from studying long hours in college haha
Just found this podcast and am loving all these episodes! I CACKLED when Eric said "money machine go BrRRrR~~" - one of the many gold nuggets of your personality, man. Iconic.
Just catching up these pods! I really enjoyed this one. Especially the conversation about the infinite half way points and the moving goal posts but then shifting your mindset to the infinite game. And just taking it one step at a time and one day at a time!
I know it’s cliche but I definitely believe in how life is about the journey and not the destination too. I think about all the milestones I’ve hit, from HS graduation to College graduation, to getting that job etc. but at the end of the day, a milestone is just a milestone, and no one cares what you did or didn’t accomplish, but when you look back you can cherish the little things and the moments of joy along the way.
One more thing I wanted to add was when the journey feels overwhelming to me, I do try my best to give myself a pep talk, reminding myself just to put one foot in front of the other
Or not even take it one step at a time but even just one breath at a time. It keeps me going.
I started crying yesterday because I’m already feeling stuck in my 9-5 and company specifically. This pod has been super helpful to know that there are people who have taken different paths and are successful. Thank you ♥️
oh no mia!! :( idk if you're comfortable sharing more here or thru DM. i hope you're doing okay!! feeling stuck seems to be a big theme this year :(
i think we all feel that way to a certain extent. keep it going!!
@@chloeshih hi Chloe! It may be a little long to include in a comment here but I could share through DMs if you’re open to it (no pressure!). I really appreciate the offer and positivity :)
This small gesture @ 23:28 was so sweet of Eric to say and it really warmed my heart. What a solid friend!
I’m an older listener, not as young and sprung like you both despite Chloe’s previous podcast comments 😉. I appreciated Chloe sharing how attending an event made her feel less than or little by instinctively comparing when she’s very accomplished herself. That is all too relatable. Chloe, thank you. Eric sharing similar sentiments was kind and supportive. Seeing a male friend who is also accomplished, providing support/encouragement instead of pushing his ego, is beautiful to see. And this is constant in all the podcasts I’ve heard. Thank you for that.
I’m not even in the tech industry nor am I some accomplished person trying to grow my resume or experiences. However, I have always been curious how one ends up in that field or what exactly a PM/creator/designer does. Though mostly it’s the rapport I see between the both of you that attracts me to listen.
ah i know it was an internal dialogue! i'm sure no one meant anything by it. i think my insecurities flared up at that time. thanks for listening/watching and supporting this pod!!
Honestly, 45:20 Eric's comment about needing to constantly improve is so so relatable
The desire to constantly improve is SO TRUE. I think that gets amplified with immigrant parents because if they've gotten you to where you are, then to stop improving or say "that's enough" it's time to stop and relax n enjoy, is sort of like wasted potential for both yourself and parents.. which is both good for having that drive, but probably bad for the mind over time. And the gym excuse is so relatable.. because then no matter what, you've accomplished something that's productive and an improvement of yourself that day!
As someone not in the tech or content realm, I find it interesting and refreshing to hear about moments of vulnerability/insecurity for Eric and Chloe who I view as highly successful, hardworking individuals. Admittedly, one of my initial reactions was coming off a swig of haterade ("They have it so good and make so much money and they're discussing feeling ignored??") but it really goes to show that these conversations are important, we all have our own sets of problems, and that comparison is everywhere.
Keep up the lovely work & looking forward to next week :)
haha thank you for the incredibly honest comment. the "swag of haterade" made me chuckle 🤣
i'm glad you ended up enjoying the conversation! comparison truly is everywhere and is ultra ultra unhealthy 😭i keep having to remind myself that i just gotta do my own thing. that's the best way for me to combat it!!
I can resonate with Choe's desire to explore her feminine energy more. I grew up very tomboy because I was raised among my brothers and cousins who were all guys, and a family in the trades so cars, tech, and games were my thing for a while. But for the past couple of years i've been definitely exploring and leaning more into my feminine energy and I love it! Feels cool to be able to express ourselves by embracing a wide range of masculine and feminine traits.
P.S. Lol it wasn't until during the pandemic did I take up learning make-up and fashion, framing them as 4-unit classes to be taken for a semester to build my foundational skill-set. It worked! So now it's not as overwhelming as before and can sometimes be fun.
I definitely feel the “I do too much but it never feels like enough”/overachiever personality as a child of immigrants. It also causes tension in my relationship where my work is taking up too much time and taking away from quality time with my fiancé. It’s so hard to just chill. I’m applying to an MBA program because I can’t accept that my very stable career is stagnant and doesn’t offer many growth opportunities.
so grateful for these podcasts, especially this one, I feel so related with the constantly trying to improve yourself to feel like things are moving forward, that part when Eric was mentioning about part of the reasons he goes to the gym and eats clean is because if everything else in his life goes south, at least he is still in shape, I feel so heard and it's crazy how we were built this way 😭
37:00 - So real
I’ve been in the stages of starting an agency and have constantly been working. A lot of it is to prove to myself that I can do it. But it really does have this trade-off where I’ve only locked myself and stayed there for days on end and declined my time with others who I care about. I don’t know how to balance this well enough and consistently so hearing that really meant a lot.
woke up a lil cranky today but remembered a new JOMO pod was coming out -- Tuesday mornings are something to look forward to cause of you guys :)
AYEE!! no more cranky tuesday mornings ~~
6:37 Reason number 10838 Chloe is a badass. And 8:18 @Eric seriously so true and couldn't have said it better myself
🫶 LOVE YOU TAYLOR THANK YOU FOR WATCHING -eric 🥹
I’ve never related to two people more. When Chloe shared how she felt about introducing herself to people post layoffs, I knew EXACTLY what she meant. As a person who worked in Finance it’s very much the same thing, about where you work and what you do, and so I used to be able to say “I’m Khanya, I work at Google” but post layoffs, I didn’t have my one liner. I moved into content creation too and yup you guessed it Finance people think you’re just doing dance challenges on TikTok. It’s so hard, because similar to what Eric said you’re just grinding, trying to achieve some kind of business success but it doesn’t quite reach your center. I do sooo much and I can’t tell you if I’m any closer to feeling like “I’m enough”. Anyways now that I’ve shared my diary entry to strangers on the internet 😂 I just wanna say I hope you know how helpful these episodes are.
so much fun 😂 good job with the podcast!
eric, chloe, although some people might not relate to the scale of your problems, it was great to hear your honest thoughts. you showed lots of vulnerability in this episode and i totally get some of your frustrations. love you guys ❤ you inspire me lots and tons. keep going
6:49 OOOOOH this one will be a good pod! watching from my WFH job in tech / y’all this timestamp is for when the tea gets BOILING
God that truly had me boiling as well! So angry!! I was so ready to talk it out!
😤😤😤
- chloe
My wife and I bonded over this podcast, the feeling of not being enough is so strong 😭Especially as First generation's and being the oldest child
i really love this episode... that reflects when i met with my classmates of 12 years ago ...
First, hats off to Chloe for being a badass. 💓 Also, throughout the podcast, I was distracted by Eric’s cute pink paw print socks 🐾 🎀 Maybe the merch for this channel could be comfortable couch goods in pastel colors, like a pair of good old comfortable socks (must be cute!) or a giant squishy pillow. 😂
That is an EXCELLENT idea! I’ve been thinking of socks for sure. I didn’t think about a giant squishy pillow haha
@@jomopod Yay! ٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و Please support international shipping to HK ♡
Chloe,
I'm around the same age as you & honestly havent been around much girly things growing up. & i grew up in an asian household- so i understand both the pressure and struggle finding and tapping into your feminine side.
I watch your videos and I legit always thought "wow i want to be girly like her." To hear you also kind of struggle with the same thing helps me realize, feminine energy is a personal thing 🩵 thank you for that small bit of clarity.
It’s rare when a fresh podcast is actually good. You guys will do great 👍
This is a normal feeling to have and sometimes it may be true; you feel like you're not living up to your potential. It's just a symptom of a much larger problem.
Which is?
Thx for being so honest Chloe We all feel like we are not enough. We are too hard on ourselves I know I am my biggest critic😂 but got to drown the doubts
This is my comfort podcast 🥰
this podcast is just so amazing and soothing to listen to!
Sending you both big tight hugs 🥺🙏🤗
I think everyone can definitely relate to feeling small and uncertain in professional and networking settings.
🥲🥲🥲 not a fun feeling
Also the color grading is so cinematic
aww thank you! T_T we actually messed up on the color grading. i filmed in the wrong setting and we tried correcting it back. it did not work out so well x_x
but i'm glad it made a *vibe* ~~
JOMO;'s content is so good! my 2 cents here: you both have very animated characters (like the uwu), on these moments, would be nice to see a frame capturing both of you guys rather than cutting into the other's reaction
ooo okay noted! will share this with our editor!
I think a lot of these conclusions are very normal thoughts to have as someone in their 20s-30s. Andrew Wilkinson, the billionaire, has a book titled "Never Enough". I have a magnetic from the IKEA museum gift shop with a quote by the founder Ingvar Kamprad that says "Happiness is not reaching your goal. Happiness is being on the way." I think that truly resonates with how I'm also on a constant personal growth journey. There are certain interests I have that constantly make me feel like I'm making progress, even though it's small steps each time. I'm approaching my mid-20s and I'm looking forward to continuing to take my steps towards my ever-evolving goals. I don't like calling them goals tbh. I have mission statements for my life.
PRD for your life plan... I would love to know more about what that looks like. I've done the Odyssey Planning from Designing Your Life but I am looking for something a bit more structured and concrete.
Pov: Nothing is ever enough. Maybe, just maybe, that it is not about being enough but about short breaks.
Life is a marathon :>
The ending is important, but why do we have to miss out the scenery during the journey?
Why must we measure the journey in one stop? Maybe multiple stops will make one feel better :)
Love both of you btw!
1. Genuine
2. I like the timestamps on the TH-cam descriptions
3. Saying things not many did but politely censor off sensitive information
Expertise + crisps articulation.
Cheers!🎉
Older listener here. I actually came from Eric Siu’s pod with Eric, but it is really nice to listen to younger more successful people chat. No advice to give, but keep it up. Can’t wait to hear more. 🎉
Was a fan of Chloe and now a fan of both of you! Wondering if someday we can pod together ?
My wife has the exact same thought process as Chloe.
She's a CPA/ lawyer. She also gets fixated on bad situations she can't control.
I have to constantly pull her out of that state of mind because she's going to mope for hours if not handled correctly.
I even devised my own strategy to get her out of it. 😂
In a way, I think I'm similar to Kevin then.
Is it just me googling mid episode pink cat paw socks.. I don't know why but I want them. So cute.
🤣🤣🤣 they are such a delightful splash of color in life ~
Where can I get this course? 👀
Where is Chloe’s cardigan from 😮 it’s sooo cute
you mean from the thumbnail? it's love bonito!!
MONEY MACHINE GO BRRRR!
🤣🤣🤣 that was a good moment
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eric looking big🦾 Give us a gym video mate
25:35 am I worth paying attention to? FELT
no mean comments ❤ all love for the jomo crew
15:47 Eric here really making me think about the last decade of my life 💀 and if it’s was worth it
Great topic
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You guys changed all of your titles, nice seo :)
Yep - just experimenting if shorter titles are less overwhelming!
We need J.O.M.O merch!!!
I KNOW! So I was thinking…socks.
👀👀👀
what do we think? :o
- chloe
@@jomopod socks would be awesome!!
Will this episode be on Spotify :0
it's up now!! spoti.fi/466BRP3
@@jomopodPreciate! something about completing the pod on Spotify is so satisfying HAHA
Since you guys are in the same pickleball circle as LaurDIY can I suggest a WildTil9 collab!? 🙏 Jeremy had some hot takes about PMs in an old episode and as a PM myself I haven’t forgotten it 😂 would love to see you all talk about it/the perception of PMs from other business units!
omg i did NOT know he had hot takes about PM. do u know what episode? lol i def need to know!!
@@jomopod wait I think I found it haha I guess it wasn't as detailed of a hot take as I remembered but shade was thrown and he says so himself! start at 55:00 th-cam.com/video/rdSg1Tnvzwg/w-d-xo.html
Tbh, don't worry about becoming "feminine enough"; instead, focus on figuring out what femininity means to *you* and how you want to live that out for yourself.
Thank u Tiffany 🥰🥰 will do 🫡🫡🫡 - chloe
Firsttt
yay! first ~
But can we talk about how we normalize this culture? It’s not healthy and sustainable. You’ve done so much at a young age and you still feel small? We need to stop trying to get validation from others and just done what we love.
y'all traded socks didnt you
good guess, but no 🤣🤣🤣
eric bought those himself
- chlo
Did you guys switch socks? lol
🤣🤣🤣 no those are all eric's own socks
- chloe
A piece of feedback - the teal shadows are a bit much. I think it works well for Chloe's shot but not so much for Eric's. I'd tone it down by around 15-20% but that's a suggestion! Love how you both are doing color and improving the production value.
You guys are just so insightful and speak to my soul. This podcast means the world to me and it makes me excited to hear what things y'all are up to! :)
Oh this was a complete mistake. We accidentally recorded in the wrong color settings and even got a colorist to try fixing this. Sorry! Next episode, we are back on normal colors!
Seriously, you two should hook up and forget about your partners.
You two will make a better couple. Don't self deny.
Can’t two adult male & female maintain a good professional rls? U clearly trippin’ !
Chloe I just want you to know that I would have GLADLY helped you out with setting up and bagging the goodies for the AAPI event 🥺🫂