My Pleasure! Thanks for fitting along with me (just between you can me... I came up with adding velcro to the waistband because I couldn't look down and see my CF waist over by G-Cup Bust :))))
:) That's so true! I switch back and forth between working on fitting projects and sewing or design fun! ...Gearing up for my sold out 3-Day Pants Fitting Workshop this weekend... Good luck with your pants fitting
I appreciate all you do. The concept of a reusable fitting waistband is one I havent seen before, but I can point to at least a half dozen people who taught one legged toile or one legged tissue fitting long before 2022.
Thank you so much! One of my favorite pants fitting teachers, Diane Martin, (she teaches locally here in CT and RI) has been using a single leg muslin and the Jan Minott Pants Fitting Method forever... I've played with it in the past too. Before Ruth suggested using a non-stretch waistband, I was using a 2" wide fitting elastic to mark my waistline. I think using a firm elastic waistband can give you similar results as long as it can hold the weight of the fabric. But sadly, you really can't add Velcro to the elastic!
Hi Jen, I just wanted to share how much I love your idea. It's truly innovative and has so much potential to benefit individuals with physical disabilities. The use of Velcro in your design is brilliant, and it revolutionizes how people with mobility challenges can fit and test their pants. Pinning pants to a waistband can be difficult for those with limited dexterity or mobility since it requires intricate fine motor skills. But with the implementation of Velcro, you've created a solution that simplifies the process significantly. This inclusive approach is groundbreaking and will undoubtedly make a difference in the lives of many. Thank you for being so dedicated to promoting inclusivity and independence!
Thank you so much! ...I quickly realized that it was not an easy task to use pins to manage the fabric around the waistband (and I'm super flexible). If you're going to try it, it's important to put the hook side of the Velcro on the waistband and the plush side inside your muslin so you don't get irritated! ...Also thanks for fitting along with me!
It's kind of amazing how uninformed people can just drop in and start throwing around accusations. I know it hurts, but ignore them. You have always been a proponent of TDCO since the beginning and given Ruth (@ithicamaven) credit and accolades. Anyone who has been a student of your for any time knows that. A simple search of your videos clearly shows this. What you have done that is original is made the process even easier with your velcro waistband trick. That is a game changer and all your invention. It has never been discussed by Ruth or other TDCO proponents. Even more important, no one can copyright a technique or design. Palmer Pletch was doing the one legged muslin 20 years ago. Everything in fashion and sewing is building on someone's work. The people accusing you of theft owe you an apology. To show my support, I ordered a kit.
Actually Ruth has talked about the Velcro waistband and so does Stacey (thecrookedhem) who works directly with Ruth and made the TDCO explainer videos! Even if Jennifer had invented the Velcro aspect, she should still cite what she’s building on. Of course everything builds on everything else - that’s why you will see so many citations in any academic paper. You have to cite your sources even while you propose new ideas.
Actually, Ruth doesn't like velcro on her waistband... That was my idea ... and I'm going to say it here... If I were to give credit for talking about a fitting waistband, I would have to credit almost every other pants fitting teacher out there... (fitting waistbands are not a new idea)
@@ladybug8893Ruth does not have a single reference or citation in her published Threads article even though she developed her method “through theoretical and experimental studies”. If we are going to demand academic rigor, then we need to hold everyone to the same standard.
@@ladybug8893 Are you citing who taught you to speak English? Stop trolling and telling people what they "should" do. You are the boss of no one except yourself.
Oh my. There are some awkward comments here. I’m adding this comment to acknowledge that you have, on numerous occasions, credited the originator of the TDCO method and have mentioned that you have her permission to teach this method. You have also included examples of people of a number of shapes and sizes. It makes me sad that people like yourself who generously share very helpful information for free receive such negative comments.
She doesn't have Ruth's permission and anyone who engages with Ruth would know that. Ruth has explicitly asked her to stop claiming she's teaching the top down center out method. Additionally, Ruth has said that monetizing her intellectual property is not permitted, which is what a TH-cam creator is doing.
I just thought of something...when you bring the waistband together, you need to figure out the center front of the waistband. maybe put it on then mark where it joins, then take it off , join the front velcro together at your marks, fold flat, making sure to fold along the center back. Now you'll see where the center front is and can mark it. This would be helpful if you're working with just one leg as you were demonstraighting.
I’m working on pants muslin right now. I followed your video on getting the bagginess out of the back of pants. That was so easy. I’ll post in another video if it worked and I’m pretty sure it will. On this waist band thing do you have any advice on us older women who like a elastic waist band? I really like flat in front & elastic in back. How this method fits in with TDCO. Glad you had a great day with family. We all need a break!
:) I'm so excited for you.... Ruth uses a separate waistband and one leg muslin, which I'm sharing here... so it's definitely related to TDCO... I don't cover the entire process though...That's a great topic. I will add that to my short list of upcoming tutorials How to make a fitting waistband that has a non-stretch front and an elastic back! Stay tuned and thank you for watching
Ruth Collins has been so wonderful in giving us, the sewing community a resource that is FREE and can make us feel good about our bodies as we make pants that fit and that should be honored. That being said, I feel like you and whatever team you may have, could do a much better job of giving Ruth her credit. It is unfair to Ruth that in your association with her and her methods there seems to always be a lack of giving her credit in many directions. When looking up TDCO on youtube, I found a video from Lindsey from "inside the hem" doing this method. In this sponsored video ( that one can only assume you sponsored because Ruth did NOT sponsor it)- and in which she says she learned from you. no mention of Ruth or her practices were mentioned at all. Not in the video and not in the description. In this video, She mentions that you were "trained" in TDCO and Ruth Collin's does not offer "training" for this method. Additionally I found that in this course that you are charging 150 US dollars for, you are using her method as a major Chunk of the fitting, only using your original work for "minor tweaks" that probably would be resolved with TDCO anyway. This, along with not providing your clientele with any resources that directly lead to her method is an injustice to her and what our community stands for. Upon even further research and trying to get the "whole scoop" think I have found the difference between the two of you. The method that Ruth created is for ALL bodies of ALL sizes where you have decided to limit your clients to a slim fit pair of pants where additionally, you have chosen exclude many sewists by having a size range that is inconsistent with where the rest of the sewing community is headed, which is size inclusivity. Why Should I want to take a fitting class with someone who only wants me to wear THEIR designs? The point of fitting especially with "expert" help is that you should be able to fit any pattern. Moving on, Slapping some velcro on a waistband and doing the exact methods Ruth has come up with does not make it yours in the same way that shortening the hem to my favorite pants pattern does not mean that I designed them. Do better, Be better. I hope you choose to do better in the future and make the sewing space a healthy one, not one filled with people ripping others off.
I agree with you that Ruth's method is a very elegant pants fitting method put together from existing pants fitting techniques. Also, I'm guessing you are new to my channel, If you followed along with me, you would know that I have given Ruth credit for everything TDCO. The Whole Scoop is a multi-method pants fitting that takes advantage of all the tools in my Pants Fitting tool box that can be use to fit any pant on a body of any size. I also agree with you about being size inclusive. I'm in the middle of a pattern rebrand that will include sizing to 32. Thank you so much for checking in
@@JSternDesigns You're blatantly obfuscating the fact that you're plagiarizing Ruth. Your pants fitting work looked nothing like what you are currently presenting until you engaged with Ruth and her method. This isn't a new multi-method pants fitting approach; this is a blatant theft of Ruth and the velcro on the waistband is not anything substantial enough to claim you're doing anything unique. If you're actually integrating multiple methods, prove it and cite your sources explicitly.
@@JSternDesigns on your site it’s pretty obvious most of it is TDCO and then your method comes in at the end. Also, weird that for a method that’s suitable for all pants that you’re confining people to slim fit pants of the past if you’re a fitting “expert”. Good on you though for finally catching up
You are in my head today, my Happy pants from last year are too big. I need to start over and hoping it doesn't take more than 6 muslins. Is there a video showing how to take the fit muslin back to the pattern and transfer the corrections? Thanks.
Hi Pat, Can you send me clear front, side & back views of your fit muslin… and I’ll show you how to transfer all the adjustments Live tomorrow during Subscriber Q & A at 1:00 pm !!
As someone who is NOT new to this channel and has referenced your videos for pant fitting in the past, I concur with the other people in these comments that this method of "fitting the waistband first" is directly from Ruth's work. It would be appropriate for you to continue to acknowledge her work (which is FREE) every time you use it in your "toolkit".
I agree with you about giving credit to Ruth, she's amazing. I'm guessing you are new to my Channel... because if you followed along with me you would be tired of hearing how wonderful Ruth is in all my my TDCO related videos, maybe watch some??
@@JSternDesigns I have watched many of them, they're great! I'm not trying to be rude or confrontational - in academia we credit other people for their work every time we use it, even if we have already cited them in other work. It seems like the same practice would be good here! If nothing else, it will prevent unnecessary misunderstandings.
Why are you deleting comments about you stealing Ruth's work? People see you and you are constantly stealing and not giving the woman ANY credit. This is not what the community is about.
You're right, I shouldn't have deleted Miriam's comment. Sorry about that. Also guessing that you are new to my channel... maybe take a minute and watch some of my TDCO videos... I give Ruth all the credit for her contributions to pants fitting. Anyone who knows me knows that I have spent time with Ruth, and she has not only shared her process with me, but she has also given me permission to teach it provided I attribute to her. She is front and center in every class I teach. Thank you so much for dropping in.
@@JSternDesigns this video isn’t about TDCO? And another comment you say you have a whole package for purchase going over this fitting method. You know what you’re doing obviously if you’re deleting comments.
@@JSternDesigns I too have been in contact with Ruth and it seems like you had a relationship in which she gave you information with open arms not knowing that you’d then stop giving her credit and flip everything on its head. Also, you need to start giving her credit on socials as well and add references for people to find Ruth while you also attempt to profit off her work.
This builds upon your other videos where you mention both TDCO and Ruth's conception of the method? Why leave it out here? Plagiarism is not a good fit. Anyone with any links to the sewing community knows Ruth created and championed TDCO. Lets not be disrespectful at best and committing intellectual property theft at worst, by taking her ideas, presenting them as your own and failing to acknowledge her like you did in the past. Unfollowing as this is really abhorrent behavior. If you cite someone else's work you must do so consistently.
You are clearly plagiarizing Ruth Collin’s TCDO method, and your responses to VERY valid criticisms pointing this out is really frustrating. If you are using her method you need to credit her on each and every video/piece of content. She has also asked that people don’t profit off of her work, so doing a sponsored video and your classes definitely aren’t kosher. Ruth does so much for this community, it’s sad to see someone take her hard work and try to make a buck off it.
You need to credit the creator of the waistband fitting idea: Ruth Collins, and her intellectual property "Top Down Center Out", otherwise you are guilty of plagiarism. So disappointing.
This is intellectual theft from Ruth Collins, who has worked extremely hard at TDCO. Sharing ideas is one thing, but without credit, you're ripping her off. It isn't right.
Welcome to my channel, you’re obviously new.. . Take a few minutes and watch my TDCO videos… Ruth is amazing and anyone who follows along with knows I give her full credit… thank you for stopping in :)
@@JSternDesigns you keep telling people to view your TDCO videos… while ignoring the fact that that you’ve spun the method and are now selling a product off it. Shame on you.
This waistband is a wonderful idea, thank you.
My Pleasure! Thanks for fitting along with me (just between you can me... I came up with adding velcro to the waistband because I couldn't look down and see my CF waist over by G-Cup Bust :))))
Such useful tips. I’m working on pants muslin and hoping I make lots progress tomorrow. You always need sometime away from the work.
:) That's so true! I switch back and forth between working on fitting projects and sewing or design fun! ...Gearing up for my sold out 3-Day Pants Fitting Workshop this weekend... Good luck with your pants fitting
I appreciate all you do. The concept of a reusable fitting waistband is one I havent seen before, but I can point to at least a half dozen people who taught one legged toile or one legged tissue fitting long before 2022.
Thank you so much! One of my favorite pants fitting teachers, Diane Martin, (she teaches locally here in CT and RI) has been using a single leg muslin and the Jan Minott Pants Fitting Method forever... I've played with it in the past too. Before Ruth suggested using a non-stretch waistband, I was using a 2" wide fitting elastic to mark my waistline. I think using a firm elastic waistband can give you similar results as long as it can hold the weight of the fabric. But sadly, you really can't add Velcro to the elastic!
Thank you for going over the details of this fitting method that so many have used successfully. Excellent tutorial!
My pleasure, thank you for fitting along with me
Hi Jen, I just wanted to share how much I love your idea. It's truly innovative and has so much potential to benefit individuals with physical disabilities. The use of Velcro in your design is brilliant, and it revolutionizes how people with mobility challenges can fit and test their pants. Pinning pants to a waistband can be difficult for those with limited dexterity or mobility since it requires intricate fine motor skills. But with the implementation of Velcro, you've created a solution that simplifies the process significantly. This inclusive approach is groundbreaking and will undoubtedly make a difference in the lives of many. Thank you for being so dedicated to promoting inclusivity and independence!
Thank you so much! ...I quickly realized that it was not an easy task to use pins to manage the fabric around the waistband (and I'm super flexible). If you're going to try it, it's important to put the hook side of the Velcro on the waistband and the plush side inside your muslin so you don't get irritated! ...Also thanks for fitting along with me!
It's kind of amazing how uninformed people can just drop in and start throwing around accusations. I know it hurts, but ignore them. You have always been a proponent of TDCO since the beginning and given Ruth (@ithicamaven) credit and accolades. Anyone who has been a student of your for any time knows that. A simple search of your videos clearly shows this. What you have done that is original is made the process even easier with your velcro waistband trick. That is a game changer and all your invention. It has never been discussed by Ruth or other TDCO proponents. Even more important, no one can copyright a technique or design. Palmer Pletch was doing the one legged muslin 20 years ago. Everything in fashion and sewing is building on someone's work. The people accusing you of theft owe you an apology. To show my support, I ordered a kit.
Actually Ruth has talked about the Velcro waistband and so does Stacey (thecrookedhem) who works directly with Ruth and made the TDCO explainer videos! Even if Jennifer had invented the Velcro aspect, she should still cite what she’s building on. Of course everything builds on everything else - that’s why you will see so many citations in any academic paper. You have to cite your sources even while you propose new ideas.
Actually, Ruth doesn't like velcro on her waistband... That was my idea ... and I'm going to say it here... If I were to give credit for talking about a fitting waistband, I would have to credit almost every other pants fitting teacher out there... (fitting waistbands are not a new idea)
Thank you so much for your support...and for ordering a kit... I'm off to do shipping right now!
@@ladybug8893Ruth does not have a single reference or citation in her published Threads article even though she developed her method “through theoretical and experimental studies”. If we are going to demand academic rigor, then we need to hold everyone to the same standard.
@@ladybug8893 Are you citing who taught you to speak English? Stop trolling and telling people what they "should" do.
You are the boss of no one except yourself.
Thank you, Jen! Super video and the kit is so helpful!
You are so welcome! and I'm happy that you like the WB Kit! Thanks for following along with me
Oh my. There are some awkward comments here. I’m adding this comment to acknowledge that you have, on numerous occasions, credited the originator of the TDCO method and have mentioned that you have her permission to teach this method. You have also included examples of people of a number of shapes and sizes. It makes me sad that people like yourself who generously share very helpful information for free receive such negative comments.
Thank you for your kind words. :) …and thank you for following along with me!
She doesn't have Ruth's permission and anyone who engages with Ruth would know that. Ruth has explicitly asked her to stop claiming she's teaching the top down center out method. Additionally, Ruth has said that monetizing her intellectual property is not permitted, which is what a TH-cam creator is doing.
I just thought of something...when you bring the waistband together, you need to figure out the center front of the waistband. maybe put it on then mark where it joins, then take it off , join the front velcro together at your marks, fold flat, making sure to fold along the center back. Now you'll see where the center front is and can mark it. This would be helpful if you're working with just one leg as you were demonstraighting.
That's a great tip! Thanks for sharing. Thanks for fitting along with me
Great video. Waiting for the kit to arrive.
Hi Jane, It’s winging it way to you from Connecticut 💓
Thank you for sharing this with us 😊
My pleasure 😊 Thank you for fitting along with me
I’m working on pants muslin right now. I followed your video on getting the bagginess out of the back of pants. That was so easy. I’ll post in another video if it worked and I’m pretty sure it will. On this waist band thing do you have any advice on us older women who like a elastic waist band? I really like flat in front & elastic in back. How this method fits in with TDCO. Glad you had a great day with family. We all need a break!
:) I'm so excited for you.... Ruth uses a separate waistband and one leg muslin, which I'm sharing here... so it's definitely related to TDCO... I don't cover the entire process though...That's a great topic. I will add that to my short list of upcoming tutorials How to make a fitting waistband that has a non-stretch front and an elastic back! Stay tuned and thank you for watching
This interests me also.
Ruth Collins has been so wonderful in giving us, the sewing community a resource that is FREE and can make us feel good about our bodies as we make pants that fit and that should be honored. That being said, I feel like you and whatever team you may have, could do a much better job of giving Ruth her credit.
It is unfair to Ruth that in your association with her and her methods there seems to always be a lack of giving her credit in many directions. When looking up TDCO on youtube, I found a video from Lindsey from "inside the hem" doing this method. In this sponsored video ( that one can only assume you sponsored because Ruth did NOT sponsor it)- and in which she says she learned from you. no mention of Ruth or her practices were mentioned at all. Not in the video and not in the description. In this video, She mentions that you were "trained" in TDCO and Ruth Collin's does not offer "training" for this method. Additionally I found that in this course that you are charging 150 US dollars for, you are using her method as a major Chunk of the fitting, only using your original work for "minor tweaks" that probably would be resolved with TDCO anyway. This, along with not providing your clientele with any resources that directly lead to her method is an injustice to her and what our community stands for.
Upon even further research and trying to get the "whole scoop" think I have found the difference between the two of you. The method that Ruth created is for ALL bodies of ALL sizes where you have decided to limit your clients to a slim fit pair of pants where additionally, you have chosen exclude many sewists by having a size range that is inconsistent with where the rest of the sewing community is headed, which is size inclusivity. Why Should I want to take a fitting class with someone who only wants me to wear THEIR designs? The point of fitting especially with "expert" help is that you should be able to fit any pattern.
Moving on, Slapping some velcro on a waistband and doing the exact methods Ruth has come up with does not make it yours in the same way that shortening the hem to my favorite pants pattern does not mean that I designed them.
Do better, Be better.
I hope you choose to do better in the future and make the sewing space a healthy one, not one filled with people ripping others off.
I agree with you that Ruth's method is a very elegant pants fitting method put together from existing pants fitting techniques. Also, I'm guessing you are new to my channel, If you followed along with me, you would know that I have given Ruth credit for everything TDCO. The Whole Scoop is a multi-method pants fitting that takes advantage of all the tools in my Pants Fitting tool box that can be use to fit any pant on a body of any size. I also agree with you about being size inclusive. I'm in the middle of a pattern rebrand that will include sizing to 32. Thank you so much for checking in
@@JSternDesigns You're blatantly obfuscating the fact that you're plagiarizing Ruth. Your pants fitting work looked nothing like what you are currently presenting until you engaged with Ruth and her method. This isn't a new multi-method pants fitting approach; this is a blatant theft of Ruth and the velcro on the waistband is not anything substantial enough to claim you're doing anything unique. If you're actually integrating multiple methods, prove it and cite your sources explicitly.
@@JSternDesigns on your site it’s pretty obvious most of it is TDCO and then your method comes in at the end. Also, weird that for a method that’s suitable for all pants that you’re confining people to slim fit pants of the past if you’re a fitting “expert”. Good on you though for finally catching up
This is genius!
Thanks so much! and thank you for fitting along with me
You are in my head today, my Happy pants from last year are too big. I need to start over and hoping it doesn't take more than 6 muslins. Is there a video showing how to take the fit muslin back to the pattern and transfer the corrections? Thanks.
Hi Pat, Can you send me clear front, side & back views of your fit muslin… and I’ll show you how to transfer all the adjustments Live tomorrow during Subscriber Q & A at 1:00 pm !!
At jsterndesigns37@gmail.com
Thanks Jenn but I don’t have a new fit muslin for my Happy pants. That is a generous offer and is appreciated. I cut up mine from the FM class.
As someone who is NOT new to this channel and has referenced your videos for pant fitting in the past, I concur with the other people in these comments that this method of "fitting the waistband first" is directly from Ruth's work. It would be appropriate for you to continue to acknowledge her work (which is FREE) every time you use it in your "toolkit".
Thanks for checking in... just including the credit Ruth and I agreed on... sorry I slipped up, it won't happen again.
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:) Thank you for fitting along with me!
Hmmm this used MANY concepts from top down center out! You should probably credit Ruth Collins, whose ideas you are sharing.
I agree with you about giving credit to Ruth, she's amazing. I'm guessing you are new to my Channel... because if you followed along with me you would be tired of hearing how wonderful Ruth is in all my my TDCO related videos, maybe watch some??
@@JSternDesigns I have watched many of them, they're great! I'm not trying to be rude or confrontational - in academia we credit other people for their work every time we use it, even if we have already cited them in other work. It seems like the same practice would be good here! If nothing else, it will prevent unnecessary misunderstandings.
Why are you deleting comments about you stealing Ruth's work? People see you and you are constantly stealing and not giving the woman ANY credit. This is not what the community is about.
You're right, I shouldn't have deleted Miriam's comment. Sorry about that. Also guessing that you are new to my channel... maybe take a minute and watch some of my TDCO videos... I give Ruth all the credit for her contributions to pants fitting. Anyone who knows me knows that I have spent time with Ruth, and she has not only shared her process with me, but she has also given me permission to teach it provided I attribute to her. She is front and center in every class I teach. Thank you so much for dropping in.
@@JSternDesigns this video isn’t about TDCO? And another comment you say you have a whole package for purchase going over this fitting method. You know what you’re doing obviously if you’re deleting comments.
@@JSternDesigns I too have been in contact with Ruth and it seems like you had a relationship in which she gave you information with open arms not knowing that you’d then stop giving her credit and flip everything on its head. Also, you need to start giving her credit on socials as well and add references for people to find Ruth while you also attempt to profit off her work.
This builds upon your other videos where you mention both TDCO and Ruth's conception of the method? Why leave it out here? Plagiarism is not a good fit. Anyone with any links to the sewing community knows Ruth created and championed TDCO. Lets not be disrespectful at best and committing intellectual property theft at worst, by taking her ideas, presenting them as your own and failing to acknowledge her like you did in the past. Unfollowing as this is really abhorrent behavior. If you cite someone else's work you must do so consistently.
Thanks for checking in... just including the credit Ruth and I agreed on... sorry I slipped up, it won't happen again.
You are clearly plagiarizing Ruth Collin’s TCDO method, and your responses to VERY valid criticisms pointing this out is really frustrating. If you are using her method you need to credit her on each and every video/piece of content. She has also asked that people don’t profit off of her work, so doing a sponsored video and your classes definitely aren’t kosher. Ruth does so much for this community, it’s sad to see someone take her hard work and try to make a buck off it.
Thanks for checking in... just including the credit Ruth and I agreed on... sorry I slipped up, it won't happen again.
You need to credit the creator of the waistband fitting idea: Ruth Collins, and her intellectual property "Top Down Center Out", otherwise you are guilty of plagiarism. So disappointing.
Thanks for checking in... just including the credit Ruth and I agreed on... sorry I slipped up, it won't happen again.
This is intellectual theft from Ruth Collins, who has worked extremely hard at TDCO. Sharing ideas is one thing, but without credit, you're ripping her off. It isn't right.
Welcome to my channel, you’re obviously new.. . Take a few minutes and watch my TDCO videos… Ruth is amazing and anyone who follows along with knows I give her full credit… thank you for stopping in :)
@@JSternDesigns you keep telling people to view your TDCO videos… while ignoring the fact that that you’ve spun the method and are now selling a product off it. Shame on you.
I did that with Ruth’s blessing, thanks for stopping in
@@JSternDesignsno you didn’t, Ruth has explicitly said you don’t have her permission to present her work as your own
@@JSternDesignsblatant lie. I saw her post on what you're doing. She never gave you permission or blessing. Shame on you.