Nick Trikakis thanks for all the useful info 👍🏻 can you record movements on the XY pad or knob tweaking? I need to know before I turn my studio upside down 😁
Finally! Akai thank you so much for this! This is a dream, I cannot wait to buy mine. The workflow is spot on, and I can see my self banging out tracks with this in no time. Also looks like so much fun for jamming with friends. It is the best of all worlds. SOLD!
Again, Akai has destroyed their competition with another aggressive move and I absolutely love it and will support it. I have the MPC Live and it is a game changer, this will be even more impactful. I haven’t seen the entire clip yet but I hope that the note editor is improved.
Fairly new producer. First Akai product was the MPK Mini. This Force is amazing! Definitely want to get one. Thanks for this video, so many features! Wow! ~J. Bunny
as a pianist , pads are the future, the things i can do with a circuit or launchpad. I can do octaves pressing two pads with my thumb and play lead with the other 4 fingers across 4 octaves at once, and that's just one hand.
I’m still not sold on pressing pads as opposed to playing an instrument. It’s nice to hear a real musician enthuse about one of these things though. Can I hook a midi keyboard up to it. If so, this thing absolutely looks like the dogs bollocks!!!
This is a beautiful instrument & looks like it's going to be around for a while. Only thing that gets me about this video, is that surely they could have had theguys either side of him. They're both having to watch everything upside down, which isn't difficult, but for the entire duration of the walk through..😶
Yes! Mac is my sales rep and it makes me wanna buy more from sweetwater to see my sales rep! Also I like how young these guys are and dress very stylish! I relate more to these guys!
Omg sooooo true. Again how the hell this guy landed a job with AKAI I absolutely do not know. He obviously knows his stuff and he is nice enough but he’s not a product demonstrator. Good product demonstrators are people focused.....Sheesh I would give my right arm to do his job!!!
"We fully plan on improving this and making it the best instrument on the planet....that's really the purpose of putting this thing out and not just to pigeonhole it into one category".... You mean how you've pigeonholed us into a 4/4 time signature since it's been out?
Based on the same business as native instruments, After MPC live (maschine mk3), MPC X (maschine studio), I won't be surprised when a 49, 61 or 88 keyboard released with a built in MPC live, or MPC X sequencer inside, wait for it
Pretty epic.. From a MPC/Pro Tools style DAW background I've always disliked the vertical ableton layout of clips etc even though I know it's crazy powerful. One feature I really need is colourblind support for the RGB. I'm red/green colourblind, I'm sure I can use it and see all the colours but it just adds a level of difficulty & extra unnatural workload to my brain. I would def cop one of these.
This has serious potential if Akai can continue the development of this product the way that Novation does, until the product is an amazing instrument in its own right, and this is looking and sounding really good already.
Are you kidding me? 16 tracks it's just drum section. This have no 3rd party plugin support. Limited memory and processor. So it's just expensive you. Everything in one box is weak. Same here.
I have my push on a tilted stand on my desk, and I also have another tiltable stand with legs when I need more height. the desk one is a tenner from Ikea, the legs one 25 quid off amazon :)
Hi, Agent Bob. Thanks for reaching out! The Akai Force does not have the capability to add another display to it. You can, however, link it up with Ableton on a Mac or PC and gain some extra control that way! Let me know if you need anything else! Philip Courtney, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1968, philip_courtney@sweetwater.com
Yeah, but the Jam is like $1k cheaper than this. For the same money you could buy a Jam, a laptop and a decent audio interface. Given that the Jam comes with the full Maschine software AND works pretty well as an Ableton controller, it's probably the better option. Then again, the Force looks pretty decent as the centerpiece for playing live, even if you just use it for firing off (converted/exported) (audio) clips that you've made in Ableton.
This is the FUTURE! There’s a few things I would change ie: Adjustable Screen (better for your neck), Button and Knob Ergonomics. But I can’t complain. This is DOPE! @logikbombmusik
Great question! The Akai Force will work as a basic MIDI controller with Cubase, meaning that it can send note data, CC, and other basic parameters. However, there is not any support for clip launching and more in-depth integration at this time. Please feel free to contact us to figure out if it will be the right product for your needs, we're happy to help! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Ergonomics are very wrong with this one. With normal desk height/sitting position your viewing angle towards the screen is very limited. If you tilt it with a stand, then the encoder displays are at the wrong angle. Too deep footprint to reach the screen with hands. It’s so wrong, they had to put it on a coffee table so it’s somewhat easy to operate. Try sitting like that for 3 hour though, your lower back will explode. Bad decisions..
I do agree with some commenters below. Maybe a hip-hop-inspired demo would be a better idea especially for longtime MPC users and hip-hop heads. I hope all bugs have been worked out of the MPC Live and I hope this Force has a lot less (zero) bugs compared to the Live... I was thinking of getting one a while back but went with Maschine MK3 instead. Less investment, familiarity (longtime Maschine user). I love the stuff Akai has been coming out with recently but yeah... just hope all the weird bugs have been worked out.
Couldn't agree more, Akai MPC owner but I also have a maschine studio, but I would rather have an mk3. Maschine is just unique enough to not care much about MPC daily
They said they are working on being able to save as .als, but will it also be able to import .als sessions? It would be crucial in bringing the studio to the stage without a laptop.
@@DolbyAtmosMixing For sure, it looks like a cool stand alone. Obviously, it would be cool if it could support VST from 3rd party too. I have been using Ableton for 17 years, so I don't think I would replace it for this in the studio, but I would replace the laptop for gigging if it supported.als that I could export into.
If it is possible to import .als (Even by ignoring/disabling 3rd party plugins associated with each track) into the Force, it will be simply the greatest tool to bring projects to 'live'. There should be a way to convert Ableton Live projects into Akai Force.
This is the exact question i have been asking. Got lots of projects already done. If we could Import them into force that’ll make playing live so much better. And we won’t have to bring so much gear with us when we play. I hope we get a clear answer on this soon. I would hate to rebuild sets from scratch again
Ethnikman Official according to the answer I got from Akai it won’t be able to import projects from ableton. That sucks because it would be awesome to use stand alone. It does have great control over live but it’s nothing you cant do with gear already out there. If you have been gigging live already I don’t see this being a must get. You prob already got a good workflow with existing hardware.
12:55 ''The same sampler is in the MPC.'' If we want to ''... dig a little deeper...'', are we able to play those 512 samples together or is there any POLYPHONY issues or limits ?
One thing question I as, , could I bring my clip after editing with Akai force into orchestral result? Meaning after I make my song cover, could I edit my coip and bring it with accompanied orchestral final result?
Hey, Ike. Thanks for reaching out and checking out our TH-cam video. I am not fully understanding what you are looking to do. You are able to import tracks and mixes into the Force and edit them and finish them inside the Force itself. If I am completely off on what you are asking, give us a call and we can get you all taken care of. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Great question and thanks for your interest! It’s possible that there is a workaround, but you cannot assign the Force’s crossfader to send CC data externally, so it’s likely not something you can set up in a direct way. I hope this helps! Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater no its not aout sending CC to exteranal device, but to define sceens internally in the Akai Force and usings its fader to smoothly switch beteen those
Scoox shitty generic EDM by the sounds of the built in library 😂 but thankfully as its a sampler you put in your own sounds and perform / produce any style of electronic music
16 channels?? if I load a drum kit, can I eq/comp/effect individual drum sounds in that one kit or do I have to take them out into a seperate channel therefore losing a channel that could be a synth or sample?
No phono inputs like the MPCs unfortunately; thats honestly a big setback for me and my type workflow. You would need to get a phono preamp for your turntable, and connect the preamp to the Force
"And you have a beta of an MPC idea that we jammed into another controller, it won't function correctly for years.....I could launch a scene, I could piss of mpc customers, blah blah blah blah" "So if you think you've gone deep......we plan on evolving these modes, and we think you have all the possibilities you could want, BUT you decide as an unpaid beta tester. Give it a thumbs up or down in the software, and we will totally ignore your feedback." "Thank you for your feedback and suggestion for individual note repeat on different pads, we took your advice and developed a feature called xyfx effects. This should now solve your issue regarding note repeat. Our designers thank you. May the force be with you, and may you also be forced to pay too much for a Linux tablet in an APC" Yeah welcome to it all over again.
Ok, I didn’t realize it does have MIDI ports, alas on mini jacks. So the X would still seem better if you were going for an old school control hub of outboard sound modules and synths... but the clip method is preferable to many I am sure. Again, I wish they being the clip methodology to the Live and X! And not just as the simplistic clip launch track type.
Very arrogant & assumptive about music gear and then this guy is and insults artists who actually create the sounds for DJ’s who mostly are not music creators necessarily but use it for sampling and live mixing. I agree not impressed.
Hey there! Great question! The Akai Force is SO versatile. The majority of people use it for dance/electronic music, but it certainly has the capabilities for orchestral pieces, as well. Definitely give me a shout if you want to chat more about it! Rock on! 🎶🤘 Cassie O'Hanlon, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3020, cassie_ohanlon@sweetwater.com
This has made me want to switch from getting the MPC X or Live to the Akai Pro Force! Yeah Man this is perfect for me as I am a Ableton Live user & the Original Akai Push! In Reality this is the Akai Push 2, because it is the Push Fused with a Akai MPC Live! The Stand alone feature makes it more desirable than the Ableton Push 2! Well at least that’s how I feel. Hopefully Akai don’t do what they done the last time they said this is going to be upgradable and will last for at least ten years! Knowing they already have the next three upgraded models of the Akai Pro Force lined up for sale One year apart from each other! The next Model will be released about 2 years later Leaving the first model as a outdated & automatically lower graded machine considered to be no more than a Prototype. And I will feel like a dickhead for buying the limited prototype model. As it will take me about 18 months to save up and buy this I will be Extra pissed off Because I wanted to believe you wouldn’t create another one for ten years! And I know that a promise is a comfort to a fool. So I know your lying about that! And I know you purposely made this models screen flat because you wanted the feature of the Movable/Tilted&Adjustable screen to be a selling point for the second model of the Akai Pro Force! Otherwise the first model will be to perfect and the fact that they didn’t put a tilt able screen on the first model knowing it is what is needed is Akai Pro making sure they withhold all the features that they know it needs! Same reason they never put a tilt adjustable screen on the Studio or the Touch or the Live! Because they want to introduce them features in the next models. So we the consumer always will want the newer models It is like he said this is practically perfect yet we can all see functions & features it is limited in! Yet I still want one as like I said was planning on getting the MPC Live or X now that has changed to this for now May switch back or may get something better but it’s this for now even though Akai Lies! I will be complaining if it has the same start as the original MPC Studio as I unfortunately purchased mine and was disappointed & not to mention the bugs...
I agree in a way (about the planned obsolescence stuff) but to be fair, it's the way most companies release their products nowadays - NI with the Maschine MK1-MK3, the Maschine Jam (which pads are non velocity sensitive on purpose), Novation with the Launchpad models (they even had the nerve to call the LP S an "upgrade" when all they changed from the original model was brighter lights and slightly better pads) etc etc. Even the iPhone is released this way on purpose. They all do it in order to milk the cow as much as possible, i.e. only add so many new features that it justifies being called "better/newer/upgrade" but hold back with REALLY siginificant upgrades so they can implement those in the model that will follow after the one they've just released. Planned obsolescence, as said.
beatz04 to be fair, these products are more like software though, so they do have to cut off after so many features and actually release the product, otherwise it would never get released! But I am totally with the OP... this is why I will never buy Universal Audio gear... they burnt me on a UAD quad going obsolete in no time way back, and now, every year, they release a latest and greatest flagship audio interface, which is just BS. Compare this to stuff like Lynx converters, RME, etc., which are supported for a very long time and don’t get replaced very often by new models if at all.
Q: In’s and Out’s,? Export ?, Rendering? Can you import and load other 3rd party VST ? and map or work to a new format like NI NKS II assume this is being mainly marketed as live performance tool rather than a production and studio tool. It’s very nice though.
Hey, Gridnode! Great questions! For I/O - There is quite a bit to work with, including 2 analog combo jacks (for instrument, microphone, and line level signals), MIDI (In, Out, and Thru), USB connectivity for recording/exporting files to a computer, and even CV control for any 3rd party modular and synthesis devices. I would love to go over more of these details and other questions with you as well, so feel free to give me a call or email me directly below. Thank you for your interest! Jose Gonzalez, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext.1786, jose_gonzalez@sweetwater.com
Hey, Artin! Jose here from Sweetwater. Great question! I'll be more than happy to help, but I am a little unsure of what you are interested in. Are you looking for a keyboard that has a built in sampler? I would love to go over these details with you, so feel free to contact me at my information below. Thank you for your interest! Jose Gonzalez, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1786, jose_gonzalez@sweetwater.com
Absolutely! TO COPY A CLIP: Hold COPY button on the left Press the SOURCE CLIP Press the DESTINATION CLIP location Move (this is to delete the original after creating a copy, I'm still looking for a MOVE function) Hold DELETE button on the left Press the CLIP Mike Godlove, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1355, mike_godlove@sweetwater.com
Hey there! Yes, via MIDI you’ll be able to control most any parameters within your DAW or whatever you may be using for your FX processing. Thanks for reaching out! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
@@kisho2679 Yes! You can certainly use the screen on the Force as a touch pad. This would give you access to all internal effects on the unit. I hope this helps! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thx. to be clear, i mean if it has "X-Y-Touchpad" funcitionality that can be assigned to a parameter (e.g. effect) to module by hand (in 2 diemensions)?
@@kisho2679 I may have lost you a bit with the 2-dimensional comment here. Yes, I believe what you’re trying to do will work just fine, but without talking a bit further I’m not entirely sure. Feel free to reach out directly when you have some more time to chat, and we can go over what you’re hoping to do here. I’d be happy to help! Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
Hello! The Akai Force is mainly designed to be a standalone device, but it's also designed to control Ableton live. th-cam.com/video/Kz0jcf0fy5s/w-d-xo.html If you have other questions on the Force or any other controller you're looking at, feel free to give us a call! Justin Sunday, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1966, Justin_Sunday@Sweetwater.com
Hey, Adam. Thank you for reaching out. The Akai Force is a standalone sampler. It has tons of great features and sounds great. It is designed to be used as a standalone sampler, and does not support FLstudio. Akai does make a product called The Fire Grid Controller specifically for Fruity loops control, though. If we can help with anything else, just let us know. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_Embury@sweetwater.com
Hello, Adrian. Thank you for the question. As the product rolls out and the firmware updates roll in, this feature may be implemented. Currently it is not a feature of the Force. I would be more than happy to keep you updated on this along the way as more information becomes available. Feel free to reach out any time! Thanks for your interest! Michael Morgan, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1607, michael_morgan@sweetwater.com
First, I can’t believe they didn’t offer it with a larger and flip up screen like the X. The 7” screen like the Live, which I have, only works if it’s directly in front of you. This setup is akin to using a touchscreen laptop, but worse, it’s as if the screen is pushed flat to the table away from you! I really think this would have been better as an add on module to either MPC, ala NI Jam. Or at least they should have made it as a side by side layout. Or make it as two squares ala Roli blocks, and you configure them how you want! (With built in kick stands... now THAT would have been fresh.) Second, I really don’t think much of this. Seemed big and exciting at first glance but kind of uggh after 30 seconds. Without the computer, one won’t have all the plugins like using Maschine or Push, so to me, the whole idea of using it standalone to compose is not as interesting. Second, I already barely use my Live... because it’s a time waster to arrange or finish a track on it, once I make a loop or beat, much better to get it into a Daw. They might as well have had a larger screen, offer mouse support, etc. I do like their different keyboard layouts though for the pads! Not sure if Push does that now too? Now depending on how crazy tight they integrate this with daws like Live, Bitwig, and also others, that could make a difference, to me. I was always pissed that I bought Push 1, then 2 came out and I missed the trade in period. So I’ve always kind of hearted Akai, being the maker of the first Push. So, oddly enough, it was “nostalgic” in a wrong and weird way to see this with the same Push 1 pad grid! Another idea... they could have made it flip open like a laptop (either front to back, or side to side)... that would have been very cool too. And protect itself when in clamshell mode, no case required.
I like it. Ordered it. And look forward to exploring my new tool. I almost..got the mpc live to compliment the X, but held off. For slightly more, this was very easy to justify. An extremely powerful and personal weapon for the singer songwriter especially, and I have zero interest in being a d.j.
Hi, Terrence. Thanks for reaching out. On the Akai Force you are able to sequence on the fly. If you have any other specific questions, let me know. Riley Koenemann, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1226, Riley_Koenemann@sweetwater.com
Hey, Tom! Thanks for the note. Currently you can't use your own sound card with this unit. It does come with an SD Card Slot for future expansion and 16GB on-board storage, as well as 10GB of Force Sounds. So, it's pretty powerful out of the gate! I'm certainly excited for its release. If you want to chat further, contact me below and I'd be happy to answer any further questions! Cheers, Josh Kattner, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1689, Josh_Kattner@Sweetwater.com
At first i thought this was just a dumbed down Ableton Live in the box (which in a way it still is); but the more i think about it i start to see it as a great centerpiece in a small live band environment: Singer can plug in their microphone, guitar player can plug in the guitar, the drummer could route his midi pads into it (via a drum to midi interface), and the keyboard player can hook up his keyboard. One question though in that regard: As there are only 2 audio inputs, would it be possible to hook up an external audio interface via USB ?
Thank you for checking out the Akai Force video and Sweetwater. It is a great new sampler and sequencer with lots of killer features. It's also standalone which is amazing. To answer your question, The Force does not have any other way to add additional analog inputs to its interface. If there is anything else we can help you with, give us a call. Thanks! Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_Embury@sweetwater.com
Hi, Johnny. Great question! A turntable can be connected to the Akai Force via the analog audio inputs using a 1/4" or XLR cable. If you have any other questions about connecting other peripherals to the unit and how they would integrate into the work flow, feel free to reach out. Thanks for your interest! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, jason_filloramo@sweetwater.com
Hi, Wang! The Force does not feature built-in integration with FL Studio. However, Akai does make a really cool controller specifically for FL called the Fire Grid. Check out our video on it here: th-cam.com/video/NFzyNxptNLU/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the interest! Brandt Miller, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1628, brandt_miller@sweetwater.com
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Thanks for having me by Sweetwater 😀. Can’t wait to see what your customers create!!
Nick Trikakis thanks for all the useful info 👍🏻 can you record movements on the XY pad or knob tweaking? I need to know before I turn my studio upside down 😁
No thank you for the breakdown of this cool machine
yeah.. but does it have midi in implemented properly ?? i wasted my money on the MPC, it still has a major midi defect !!!!
Live Rox I will be posting a performance on my channel after NAMM with FORCE controlling a Prophet 6 via midi.
Tom Kay yes you can record XY and knob movements into track clips.
Finally! Akai thank you so much for this! This is a dream, I cannot wait to buy mine. The workflow is spot on, and I can see my self banging out tracks with this in no time. Also looks like so much fun for jamming with friends. It is the best of all worlds. SOLD!
Again, Akai has destroyed their competition with another aggressive move and I absolutely love it and will support it. I have the MPC Live and it is a game changer, this will be even more impactful. I haven’t seen the entire clip yet but I hope that the note editor is improved.
bigdap100 literally only good comment
This is an absolute game changer for live performance. Thank you Akai. Sweetwater you'll def be hearing from me this spring.
The force is a awesome instrument. Still learning it. Bought it for years ago. I am a blind producer. It is a lot of menu diving.
Fairly new producer. First Akai product was the MPK Mini. This Force is amazing! Definitely want to get one. Thanks for this video, so many features! Wow! ~J. Bunny
Great video! Thank you sweetwater for doing these excellent product demos.
Thanks for checking it out, Matt! 👍
as a pianist , pads are the future, the things i can do with a circuit or launchpad. I can do octaves pressing two pads with my thumb and play lead with the other 4 fingers across 4 octaves at once, and that's just one hand.
I’m still not sold on pressing pads as opposed to playing an instrument. It’s nice to hear a real musician enthuse about one of these things though. Can I hook a midi keyboard up to it. If so, this thing absolutely looks like the dogs bollocks!!!
This is a beautiful instrument & looks like it's going to be around for a while.
Only thing that gets me about this video, is that surely they could have had theguys either side of him. They're both having to watch everything upside down, which isn't difficult, but for the entire duration of the walk through..😶
S R DHAIN #notaninstrument
Great point they should of been on the same couch.
Yes! Mac is my sales rep and it makes me wanna buy more from sweetwater to see my sales rep! Also I like how young these guys are and dress very stylish! I relate more to these guys!
Yeah I think the bald guy looks far and away the most comfortably dressed here.
Ableton push fused with mpc live
Just not as good
Akai invented the push.
Not reallt comparable to push, cause you are chained to the laptop
This instrument 🎸🎷 blows out my mind. Well thank you , sir, for your show. See you around, here now watching from ROMA con AMOR!
Why is he showing it to them upside down?
Because they are upside down people 😂😂 😂
Omg sooooo true. Again how the hell this guy landed a job with AKAI I absolutely do not know. He obviously knows his stuff and he is nice enough but he’s not a product demonstrator. Good product demonstrators are people focused.....Sheesh I would give my right arm to do his job!!!
Standalone first gen Push. Looks sick
"We fully plan on improving this and making it the best instrument on the planet....that's really the purpose of putting this thing out and not just to pigeonhole it into one category".... You mean how you've pigeonholed us into a 4/4 time signature since it's been out?
I own an AKAI MPC and the depth of user interface and sound design capabilities is brilliant - but this just looks totally next level again !!!
Lethoscorpia MPC Live user here. I love the GUI on this screen. Very similar layout.
but it's midi in is a complete fail
Show us the arranger damn it.
Now I'm super convinced! I wish I never had that one very expensive night out...set backs...set backs!
Nice start and base foundation to build on.The capabilities are incredible but I will wait for the larger tilt screen
Based on the same business as native instruments, After MPC live (maschine mk3), MPC X (maschine studio), I won't be surprised when a 49, 61 or 88 keyboard released with a built in MPC live, or MPC X sequencer inside, wait for it
😅You called it! Lol
@@ccherryii 3 years before I predicted the MPC Keys.
Not sure its perfected yet. I will wait for future generations if any. Sweetwater Rocks!!! :-)
Been waiting for this!
Dude on right - totally digging it man!
Dude on left - not so much...
Dude selling it - trying hard.
Pretty epic.. From a MPC/Pro Tools style DAW background I've always disliked the vertical ableton layout of clips etc even though I know it's crazy powerful. One feature I really need is colourblind support for the RGB. I'm red/green colourblind, I'm sure I can use it and see all the colours but it just adds a level of difficulty & extra unnatural workload to my brain.
I would def cop one of these.
What is the max. steps / bars per pattern / clip ?
It needs a stand. The damn thing needs a stand, posture is saying help me
This has serious potential if Akai can continue the development of this product the way that Novation does, until the product is an amazing instrument in its own right, and this is looking and sounding really good already.
MrMeepzor Novation has a great track record of updating their product firmware as AKAI does not.
Ableton push and mpc live had a baby
can you record automation per clip? it would also be nice to see some external hardware sequencing
each track has automation, the mixer also shows you if active
OGASI sick!!
Wow!! This smacks the Maschine Jam out of the park. This really could be the product that moves me away from Native Instruments and back to Akai.
Are you kidding me? 16 tracks it's just drum section. This have no 3rd party plugin support. Limited memory and processor. So it's just expensive you. Everything in one box is weak. Same here.
Maybe they should have made the display tiltable, I'm getting a stiff neck just looking at it.
Loooooooool
I have my push on a tilted stand on my desk, and I also have another tiltable stand with legs when I need more height. the desk one is a tenner from Ikea, the legs one 25 quid off amazon :)
lol
That guy should run for president
i like it but why did they make the pads sooo small im used to the mpc sized pads
Homie with the burgundy hoodie can hear the electrons running through the Akai
Is it possible to use an iPad as external monitor if nessecary? Just as nice2have option?
Hi, Agent Bob. Thanks for reaching out! The Akai Force does not have the capability to add another display to it. You can, however, link it up with Ableton on a Mac or PC and gain some extra control that way! Let me know if you need anything else!
Philip Courtney, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1968, philip_courtney@sweetwater.com
Would like to see the sampling and audio editing features.
goto any LIVE video - it is the same engine and SW ;-)
Wait and see how the release dates keeps being pushed back further and further. It’s already starting.
Should’ve been a podcast.
It definitely make me think about Maschine JAM
Yeah, but the Jam is like $1k cheaper than this. For the same money you could buy a Jam, a laptop and a decent audio interface. Given that the Jam comes with the full Maschine software AND works pretty well as an Ableton controller, it's probably the better option. Then again, the Force looks pretty decent as the centerpiece for playing live, even if you just use it for firing off (converted/exported) (audio) clips that you've made in Ableton.
This is the FUTURE! There’s a few things I would change ie: Adjustable Screen (better for your neck), Button and Knob Ergonomics. But I can’t complain. This is DOPE! @logikbombmusik
The FORCE = Versatile & Tactile # USE THE FORCE
Can this work with Cubase Pro 10 other than Ableton?
Great question! The Akai Force will work as a basic MIDI controller with Cubase, meaning that it can send note data, CC, and other basic parameters. However, there is not any support for clip launching and more in-depth integration at this time. Please feel free to contact us to figure out if it will be the right product for your needs, we're happy to help!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Keep it up Akai great product
So dang similar to the OG Push. I like.
Ergonomics are very wrong with this one. With normal desk height/sitting position your viewing angle towards the screen is very limited. If you tilt it with a stand, then the encoder displays are at the wrong angle. Too deep footprint to reach the screen with hands. It’s so wrong, they had to put it on a coffee table so it’s somewhat easy to operate. Try sitting like that for 3 hour though, your lower back will explode. Bad decisions..
disagree, it isn't a lot bigger than maschine and the angled setup would be fine. I imagine you never used an X? that is a big momma
OGASI X tilts right?
FACTS @@elissitdesign
Is that your criticism on the push as well?
At some point in the design process did anyone suggest...lets make it a tilt screen!.And for $1500.00 the pads and screen could be larger.
A lot of negative comments on here from people who clearly havent a clue. Great product, it's not MPC.
Fabulous machinery ⚘⚘
I do agree with some commenters below. Maybe a hip-hop-inspired demo would be a better idea especially for longtime MPC users and hip-hop heads. I hope all bugs have been worked out of the MPC Live and I hope this Force has a lot less (zero) bugs compared to the Live... I was thinking of getting one a while back but went with Maschine MK3 instead. Less investment, familiarity (longtime Maschine user). I love the stuff Akai has been coming out with recently but yeah... just hope all the weird bugs have been worked out.
Couldn't agree more, Akai MPC owner but I also have a maschine studio, but I would rather have an mk3. Maschine is just unique enough to not care much about MPC daily
They said they are working on being able to save as .als, but will it also be able to import .als sessions? It would be crucial in bringing the studio to the stage without a laptop.
Dub Gabriel Good question. However, as is, it can do a whole lot on its own. From production to performance. It’s like a whole instrument by itself.
@@DolbyAtmosMixing For sure, it looks like a cool stand alone. Obviously, it would be cool if it could support VST from 3rd party too. I have been using Ableton for 17 years, so I don't think I would replace it for this in the studio, but I would replace the laptop for gigging if it supported.als that I could export into.
If it is possible to import .als (Even by ignoring/disabling 3rd party plugins associated with each track) into the Force, it will be simply the greatest tool to bring projects to 'live'.
There should be a way to convert Ableton Live projects into Akai Force.
This is the exact question i have been asking. Got lots of projects already done. If we could Import them into force that’ll make playing live so much better. And we won’t have to bring so much gear with us when we play. I hope we get a clear answer on this soon. I would hate to rebuild sets from scratch again
Ethnikman Official according to the answer I got from Akai it won’t be able to import projects from ableton. That sucks because it would be awesome to use stand alone. It does have great control over live but it’s nothing you cant do with gear already out there. If you have been gigging live already I don’t see this being a must get. You prob already got a good workflow with existing hardware.
Can you pur have more instruments or will more come with an update for free?
This kit looks sick....I’m ready to trade in my MPC Live
Groveboy T.M.T. Don’t trade it, combine them! 😉
12:55 ''The same sampler is in the MPC.''
If we want to ''... dig a little deeper...'', are we able to play those 512 samples together or is there any POLYPHONY issues or limits ?
Thorough walk-through. Thank you...
One thing question I as, , could I bring my clip after editing with Akai force into orchestral result? Meaning after I make my song cover, could I edit my coip and bring it with accompanied orchestral final result?
Hey, Ike. Thanks for reaching out and checking out our TH-cam video. I am not fully understanding what you are looking to do. You are able to import tracks and mixes into the Force and edit them and finish them inside the Force itself. If I am completely off on what you are asking, give us a call and we can get you all taken care of.
Thanks,
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Gotta have it
can u do a video with the mpcx linked up with the force
Thanks again for the videos big help😊😊
can the cross fader of the Akai Force be used as the the fader of the Electron Octatrack to switch between different scenes?
Great question and thanks for your interest! It’s possible that there is a workaround, but you cannot assign the Force’s crossfader to send CC data externally, so it’s likely not something you can set up in a direct way.
I hope this helps!
Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater no its not aout sending CC to exteranal device, but to define sceens internally in the Akai Force and usings its fader to smoothly switch beteen those
Goodyear! Shout out Akron
can a future update enable to operate PureData patches, since the Akai Force has a build-in computer?
Im writing from 2079 this badboy is still kicking!
Lucky One 🤳😂
At an RRP of £1,460. It'll be 2079 before I can buy it.
Lucky One not with that screen it's not. Comparing the build quality of this thing to an Mpc60 is nothing short of comical.
What is the typical use case scenario this product was designed for?
Scoox shitty generic EDM by the sounds of the built in library 😂 but thankfully as its a sampler you put in your own sounds and perform / produce any style of electronic music
Playing at gigs party's or live not a a song arranger!
Why so little ram?
16 channels?? if I load a drum kit, can I eq/comp/effect individual drum sounds in that one kit or do I have to take them out into a seperate channel therefore losing a channel that could be a synth or sample?
OddOne Out yeah you have inserts on each pad in a kit
What is the midi and cv implementation?
Can it send out on 16 midi channels?
Does it have 4 cv tracks?
No phono inputs like the MPCs unfortunately; thats honestly a big setback for me and my type workflow. You would need to get a phono preamp for your turntable, and connect the preamp to the Force
@@ascenziov8421 not sure if you meant this as a reply to my question?
I guess 16 midi channels - and max 4 CV tracks if the CV can be used for modulation. If its just pitch / duration then 2 as you’ll need two for gates
With Akku ???
"And you have a beta of an MPC idea that we jammed into another controller, it won't function correctly for years.....I could launch a scene, I could piss of mpc customers, blah blah blah blah"
"So if you think you've gone deep......we plan on evolving these modes, and we think you have all the possibilities you could want, BUT you decide as an unpaid beta tester. Give it a thumbs up or down in the software, and we will totally ignore your feedback."
"Thank you for your feedback and suggestion for individual note repeat on different pads, we took your advice and developed a feature called xyfx effects. This should now solve your issue regarding note repeat. Our designers thank you. May the force be with you, and may you also be forced to pay too much for a Linux tablet in an APC"
Yeah welcome to it all over again.
VST?
Wots the soundcard like?
Ok, I didn’t realize it does have MIDI ports, alas on mini jacks. So the X would still seem better if you were going for an old school control hub of outboard sound modules and synths... but the clip method is preferable to many I am sure. Again, I wish they being the clip methodology to the Live and X! And not just as the simplistic clip launch track type.
When he said the slider was basically used for ONE function I left the video. Impossible.
Very arrogant & assumptive about music gear and then this guy is and insults artists who actually create the sounds for DJ’s who mostly are not music creators necessarily but use it for sampling and live mixing. I agree not impressed.
Is this only meant for dance music or can I make slow orchestra music with this too?
Hey there! Great question! The Akai Force is SO versatile. The majority of people use it for dance/electronic music, but it certainly has the capabilities for orchestral pieces, as well. Definitely give me a shout if you want to chat more about it!
Rock on! 🎶🤘
Cassie O'Hanlon, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3020, cassie_ohanlon@sweetwater.com
Wish it had a flip screen. Other than that this looks fantastic
This has made me want to switch from getting the MPC X or Live to the Akai Pro Force! Yeah Man this is perfect for me as I am a Ableton Live user & the Original Akai Push!
In Reality this is the Akai Push 2, because it is the Push Fused with a Akai MPC Live! The Stand alone feature makes it more desirable than the Ableton Push 2!
Well at least that’s how I feel. Hopefully Akai don’t do what they done the last time they said this is going to be upgradable and will last for at least ten years!
Knowing they already have the next three upgraded models of the Akai Pro Force lined up for sale One year apart from each other! The next Model will be released about 2 years later Leaving the first model as a outdated & automatically lower graded machine considered to be no more than a Prototype.
And I will feel like a dickhead for buying the limited prototype model. As it will take me about 18 months to save up and buy this I will be Extra pissed off
Because I wanted to believe you wouldn’t create another one for ten years! And I know that a promise is a comfort to a fool. So I know your lying about that!
And I know you purposely made this models screen flat because you wanted the feature of the Movable/Tilted&Adjustable screen to be a selling point for the second model of the Akai Pro Force! Otherwise the first model will be to perfect and the fact that they didn’t put a tilt able screen on the first model knowing it is what is needed is Akai Pro making sure they withhold all the features that they know it needs! Same reason they never put a tilt adjustable screen on the Studio or the Touch or the Live! Because they want to introduce them features in the next models. So we the consumer always will want the newer models
It is like he said this is practically perfect yet we can all see functions & features it is limited in! Yet I still want one as like I said was planning on getting the MPC Live or X now that has changed to this for now May switch back or may get something better but it’s this for now even though Akai Lies! I will be complaining if it has the same start as the original MPC Studio as I unfortunately purchased mine and was disappointed & not to mention the bugs...
I agree in a way (about the planned obsolescence stuff) but to be fair, it's the way most companies release their products nowadays - NI with the Maschine MK1-MK3, the Maschine Jam (which pads are non velocity sensitive on purpose), Novation with the Launchpad models (they even had the nerve to call the LP S an "upgrade" when all they changed from the original model was brighter lights and slightly better pads) etc etc. Even the iPhone is released this way on purpose. They all do it in order to milk the cow as much as possible, i.e. only add so many new features that it justifies being called "better/newer/upgrade" but hold back with REALLY siginificant upgrades so they can implement those in the model that will follow after the one they've just released. Planned obsolescence, as said.
beatz04 to be fair, these products are more like software though, so they do have to cut off after so many features and actually release the product, otherwise it would never get released! But I am totally with the OP... this is why I will never buy Universal Audio gear... they burnt me on a UAD quad going obsolete in no time way back, and now, every year, they release a latest and greatest flagship audio interface, which is just BS. Compare this to stuff like Lynx converters, RME, etc., which are supported for a very long time and don’t get replaced very often by new models if at all.
Q: In’s and Out’s,? Export ?, Rendering? Can you import and load other 3rd party VST ? and map or work to a new format like NI NKS II assume this is being mainly marketed as live performance tool rather than a production and studio tool. It’s very nice though.
Hey, Gridnode! Great questions! For I/O - There is quite a bit to work with, including 2 analog combo jacks (for instrument, microphone, and line level signals), MIDI (In, Out, and Thru), USB connectivity for recording/exporting files to a computer, and even CV control for any 3rd party modular and synthesis devices. I would love to go over more of these details and other questions with you as well, so feel free to give me a call or email me directly below. Thank you for your interest!
Jose Gonzalez, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext.1786, jose_gonzalez@sweetwater.com
What modern hardware sample player for the keyboard lets out Akai? For wav samples? Or what other company produces?
Hey, Artin! Jose here from Sweetwater. Great question! I'll be more than happy to help, but I am a little unsure of what you are interested in. Are you looking for a keyboard that has a built in sampler? I would love to go over these details with you, so feel free to contact me at my information below. Thank you for your interest!
Jose Gonzalez, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1786, jose_gonzalez@sweetwater.com
Does anyone know how you copy and paste a clip. Or move a clip.
Absolutely!
TO COPY A CLIP:
Hold COPY button on the left
Press the SOURCE CLIP
Press the DESTINATION CLIP location
Move (this is to delete the original after creating a copy, I'm still looking for a MOVE function)
Hold DELETE button on the left
Press the CLIP
Mike Godlove, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1355, mike_godlove@sweetwater.com
I have figured out a lot now after days of using this baby. You can copy and paste and delete columns, whole tracks and clips.
very interesting video
can the screen on the Akai Force be used as a touch pad to control its internal effects by hand in a live performance?
Hey there! Yes, via MIDI you’ll be able to control most any parameters within your DAW or whatever you may be using for your FX processing.
Thanks for reaching out!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
tank you, but this wasn't the question ...
@@kisho2679 Yes! You can certainly use the screen on the Force as a touch pad. This would give you access to all internal effects on the unit.
I hope this helps!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thx. to be clear, i mean if it has "X-Y-Touchpad" funcitionality that can be assigned to a parameter (e.g. effect) to module by hand (in 2 diemensions)?
@@kisho2679 I may have lost you a bit with the 2-dimensional comment here. Yes, I believe what you’re trying to do will work just fine, but without talking a bit further I’m not entirely sure. Feel free to reach out directly when you have some more time to chat, and we can go over what you’re hoping to do here. I’d be happy to help!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
GEEZ LET THE GUY IN THE MAROON SWEATER HAVE A TURN FOR CHRISTS SAKE! lol
Can it be use as software controller as well not just standalone
Hello! The Akai Force is mainly designed to be a standalone device, but it's also designed to control Ableton live.
th-cam.com/video/Kz0jcf0fy5s/w-d-xo.html
If you have other questions on the Force or any other controller you're looking at, feel free to give us a call!
Justin Sunday, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1966, Justin_Sunday@Sweetwater.com
Compatible with FL Studio?
Hey, Adam. Thank you for reaching out. The Akai Force is a standalone sampler. It has tons of great features and sounds great. It is designed to be used as a standalone sampler, and does not support FLstudio. Akai does make a product called The Fire Grid Controller specifically for Fruity loops control, though. If we can help with anything else, just let us know.
Thanks,
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_Embury@sweetwater.com
Can you map the Force's virtual mixer to an external midi controller that has faders and knobs?
Hello, Adrian. Thank you for the question. As the product rolls out and the firmware updates roll in, this feature may be implemented. Currently it is not a feature of the Force. I would be more than happy to keep you updated on this along the way as more information becomes available. Feel free to reach out any time!
Thanks for your interest!
Michael Morgan, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1607, michael_morgan@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater Hi, Michael, thank you very much for your reply.
But can it run serum?
First, I can’t believe they didn’t offer it with a larger and flip up screen like the X. The 7” screen like the Live, which I have, only works if it’s directly in front of you. This setup is akin to using a touchscreen laptop, but worse, it’s as if the screen is pushed flat to the table away from you! I really think this would have been better as an add on module to either MPC, ala NI Jam. Or at least they should have made it as a side by side layout. Or make it as two squares ala Roli blocks, and you configure them how you want! (With built in kick stands... now THAT would have been fresh.)
Second, I really don’t think much of this. Seemed big and exciting at first glance but kind of uggh after 30 seconds. Without the computer, one won’t have all the plugins like using Maschine or Push, so to me, the whole idea of using it standalone to compose is not as interesting. Second, I already barely use my Live... because it’s a time waster to arrange or finish a track on it, once I make a loop or beat, much better to get it into a Daw. They might as well have had a larger screen, offer mouse support, etc.
I do like their different keyboard layouts though for the pads! Not sure if Push does that now too?
Now depending on how crazy tight they integrate this with daws like Live, Bitwig, and also others, that could make a difference, to me. I was always pissed that I bought Push 1, then 2 came out and I missed the trade in period. So I’ve always kind of hearted Akai, being the maker of the first Push. So, oddly enough, it was “nostalgic” in a wrong and weird way to see this with the same Push 1 pad grid!
Another idea... they could have made it flip open like a laptop (either front to back, or side to side)... that would have been very cool too. And protect itself when in clamshell mode, no case required.
whats the X?
@@frankjoseph6071 I was referring to the MPC X.
ok...i'm stressed out just thinking about the fact that I need to ditch my push and get one of these.
Is there a dedicated stand?
I like it. Ordered it. And look forward to exploring my new tool. I almost..got the mpc live to compliment the X, but held off. For slightly more, this was very easy to justify. An extremely powerful and personal weapon for the singer songwriter especially, and I have zero interest in being a d.j.
Is there real time sequencing?
Hi, Terrence. Thanks for reaching out. On the Akai Force you are able to sequence on the fly. If you have any other specific questions, let me know.
Riley Koenemann, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1226, Riley_Koenemann@sweetwater.com
Parameter locks? Can the inputs be used as live inputs? Exactly which AiR plugins?
konskift Looks like the AIR FX Creative Collection. Looks like they got a GUI update from when using it on MPC Live.
Can i use my own soundcard..
Hey, Tom! Thanks for the note. Currently you can't use your own sound card with this unit. It does come with an SD Card Slot for future expansion and 16GB on-board storage, as well as 10GB of Force Sounds. So, it's pretty powerful out of the gate! I'm certainly excited for its release. If you want to chat further, contact me below and I'd be happy to answer any further questions!
Cheers,
Josh Kattner, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1689, Josh_Kattner@Sweetwater.com
At first i thought this was just a dumbed down Ableton Live in the box (which in a way it still is); but the more i think about it i start to see it as a great centerpiece in a small live band environment: Singer can plug in their microphone, guitar player can plug in the guitar, the drummer could route his midi pads into it (via a drum to midi interface), and the keyboard player can hook up his keyboard. One question though in that regard: As there are only 2 audio inputs, would it be possible to hook up an external audio interface via USB ?
Thank you for checking out the Akai Force video and Sweetwater. It is a great new sampler and sequencer with lots of killer features. It's also standalone which is amazing. To answer your question, The Force does not have any other way to add additional analog inputs to its interface. If there is anything else we can help you with, give us a call. Thanks!
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_Embury@sweetwater.com
In regards to I/Os....how do you connect a turntable for editing?
Hi, Johnny. Great question! A turntable can be connected to the Akai Force via the analog audio inputs using a 1/4" or XLR cable. If you have any other questions about connecting other peripherals to the unit and how they would integrate into the work flow, feel free to reach out. Thanks for your interest!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, jason_filloramo@sweetwater.com
Does it have side chain compression?
I think it has even more
Can I use it for as a MIDI controller for FL Studio DAW?
Hi, Wang! The Force does not feature built-in integration with FL Studio. However, Akai does make a really cool controller specifically for FL called the Fire Grid. Check out our video on it here: th-cam.com/video/NFzyNxptNLU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the interest!
Brandt Miller, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1628, brandt_miller@sweetwater.com
Can we get some timestamps in the description?
Latency is really fast....
Is it made for club music only? Why do all demos on TH-cam demonstrate it from that angle?
Because thats what its aimed at!
Does anyone know the price point for this thing?
nvm saw the purchase link
can i send emails on this?
Hello! Please feel free to email us at sales@sweetwater.com. We'd be glad to look into any questions you may have. Thanks for the message!
@@sweetwater c'mon guys that was blatantly a joke haha