Damn this show is amazing. You can notice between the conversation between Jaime and Ned, when Jaime said "it felt like justice" that he was genuinely trying to connect with Ned there and explain to him why he Killed Aerys despite the jabs they were taking at each other. But he is met with a cold wall of judgement. Superb writing and acting
Of course the audience ignores Jaime's genuine attempt, because of the bias: everyone expects him to be a bad guy. I agree: superb writing and acting. ^^
@@barstro If he didn't push Brann out the window, the boy then tells what he's seen. This results in the death of all the lannisters, his family. Probably a major war in which countless 'children' would die. Jamie definitely isn't a good person, but not just bad either. Hes a man shaped by his reality, like the other characters. But sure, if you wanna oversimplify it and judge them from our pov, then yes he and pretty much every single character in the show is 'bad'. All the starks are definitely also bad following that logic.
RIP Margaret John who played Bran's nanny. In Britain she was more well known for comedy but I forgot how good of a dramatic actress she was and as someone with a Welsh nan she always reminded me of her
Littlefinger (Petyr Baelish) grew up in Riverrun being fostered by the Tully’s who were Catelyn’s family. He was essentially a little brother to her, though not by blood, and he developed an enduring crush on her.
I think Arya came to King's Landing to be part of court life. For most ladies across the realm, coming to court is the norm but Ned Stark famously kept his family in the North and away from all of this. So essentially Arya was there to explore, learn, and possibly have marriage prospects. "Master of Tea" is perfect for Varys.
Arya was brought with to King's Landing because they hoped that spending time in the capital would help with her learning to be a proper lady. She obviously struggled with that in Winterfell. Something cruel from the books is also that Catelyn was not prepared to let Bran go to the capital, lose him like that. So when Ned told her his plans to also take Bran, her initial reaction was basically praying for anything to happen but Bran leaving. And then the fall from the tower happened.
It’ll make sense in your head as you get more details. The worldbuilding is very thorough. Varyss isn’t in charge of any territory, he is the king’s Master Of Whispers (in charge of spying), and Littlefinger is the Master Of Coin (in charge of finances). Ned Stark (Lord Stark) is the Warden Of The North which means he oversees one of the 7 territories for the king. The 7 territories used to be 7 separate kingdoms ruled by separate kings until the conquest of Aegon Targaryen with his sisters and dragons where they united the 7 kingdoms into 1. Kingdoms functionally are just territories now but they still call them “kingdoms”.
17:00 this scene is also very interesting, at first you might think it's just a silly conversation but Robert is actually trying to get them to open up about trauma. he feels traumatized by the war but tries to hide it under this macho persona.
Yes and no. He longs for war. Robert would have mad a far better king if there had be war in his reign (besides a brief Ironborn rebellion). He can be extremely charismatic, a great leader of men, and an absolute war hero. The climate of his reign isn't one suited to his particular talents. That's why he plunges into Tourneys and hunts so much.
I always come back to this scene because it's such a good portrayal of PTSD without the victim even understanding it. He's haunted by the faces of those he killed and mourning him kind of.
@@k.v.7681 Strangely enough, I've talked to veterans who both have terrible memories of war and yet still tell me that nothing in the civilian world can excite them like war did. The two aren't mutually exclusive, which surprised me.
Y’all should print out a map. The 7 kingdoms indeed refer to all that belongs to Robert Baratheon, there’s a lot of lower lords who don’t necessarily rule a kingdom and just rule over a portion of a larger land which is one of the 7 kingdoms.
The Seven Kingdoms are named that because in Westeros (the continent they are on) there were once seven (technically 8) big and kingdoms: The North, The Vale, The Stormlands, Dorne, The Reach, The Westerlands, The Iron Islands, and The Riverlands (the riverlands were sometimes independent but often conquered by the others) Aegon Targaryen 298 years before the show starts, invaded with his sister wives and their dragons and conquered most of Westeros.
2:04 Never noticed Varys his shock when Ned says "Shame you didn't say a prayer for the butcher's son". He didn't expect that. Knew exactly the kind of man Ned was from that single response
Note that although Ned thinks Arya should be a "lady", when she clearly doesn't want to, and got a sword, he didn't just have one of his men teach her how to use it. He got a master swordsman from across the sea.
yes... unless you were a powerful noble you would probably die at an young age, either by being abandoned or by the lack of medical treatments. The truth is we know very little about the subject because it wasn't documented a lot
yay! excited for this journey. curious what Arianna remembers from her reading, so far she seems just as lost as Maple lol. @chad I hope we get the Little Finger saxophone every time.
@@BopaBola In terms of writing, I loved seasons 1-6, thought season 7 was OK, and season 8 was... shit show. I am a non-book reader of GOT, however, I hope to read them soon as I just bought the book set. I am also rewatching GOT on my own, currently in season 2. Perhaps my opinion will change.
33:00 There used to be 7 kingdoms in westeros, with 7 differentes kings. The lannisters for example were Kings of the Westerlands and Starks Kings of the north. All that changed when Aegon came from Valyria with his dragons and conquered the seven kingdoms and transformed these kings into Wardens/Higher lords.
So, a little bit of world building backstory that they touch on from the books but don't really go into too much in the show: Peter and Kat grew up together, because Peter came from a very small very upstart noble family. They wanted to help their position, so they sent Peter to be the ward/squire of Kat's father, who was warden of one of the seven kingdoms. Peter always had a crush on Kat, she was in an arranged marriage to Ned's older brother. Peter thought he could be one of the plucky heroes from all of the noble stories, in a very David and Goliath kind of way, so he wanted to challenge Ned's brother to a duel over Kat. Not only was he several years younger, but he was very small and scrawny, and he got his ass handed to him. Like he said, he has a huge scar from his belly button to his neck from it. Even though Kat didn't love Peter, she still cared about him in a platonic way, so she pleaded for Ned's brother not to kill him. So not only did Peter probably feel a lot of shame for losing the duel he was the one that made the challenge to, but he probably also felt pretty emasculated by having a woman save his life. But even after the mad king killed Ned's father and brother in the throne room at kings landing, Peter never had a chance with Kat because Ned basically inherited his brother's arranged betrothal. So that's basically the explanation on why Peter made the comment he did after Ned tried to choke him out, why he said he could never refuse Kat anything, and why she isn't surprised and doesn't give a shit that he's still in love with her.
Ser Duncan the Tall mentioned! Dany loves her brother. His backstory is actually quite sad. Of course that doesnt excuse his actions in the present but it does explain why he became that way and why Dany cares for him.
It's been a bit since I read book 1 in ASOIAF, I'm about halfway through book 2 and I've been trying to read it for a couple of years, but I think in book 1 Dany even says she wants to be Viserys's Queen, not Drogo's. She WANTS to marry her brother at first, which was common in the Targaryen Family 'to keep the bloodlines pure.' But yeah, Viserys is a POS, but she cares about him.
He’s called little finger because he comes from the smallest finger of the finger lakes. I also like to think it’s a nod to Dr. Evils pinky when he is plotting.
You guys need to study a map of a Song of Ice and Fire. Will all make sense. The opening credits are a big map showing the relative locations of the show. This thing takes place across two huge separate continents.
The scene with Joffrey and Cersei is interesting for two reasons that I think are often overlooked: 1. For a moment, Joffrey is, as you both noted, actually honest about what happened with him and Arya. He even tries to assert that he didn't behave very honorably. It's his mother who pushes on him the idea that he can shape the truth as he sees fit. He's probably almost that arrogant already. But who knows, maybe there was a moment when his humiliation with the wolf might have made him a little more humble. 2. Joffrey is basically right about relying on dozens of lords to raise independent armies being primitive and inefficient. The idea of a single standing army for the whole country is probably the way to go. For better or worse, Joffrey is pretty advanced in his thinking. He's not wise about the details. And he is way too vengeful. But he is occasionally right about certain things.
Sighhhh all the feels come back rewatching this with y'all.... knowing whats coming... Also I appreciate the breakdown at the end of the episode hearing you guys trying to flesh out and figure out what's going on. 😎
And all the people who criticized their level of hatred for Walter White haven't seen anything yet. Of course, the entire TV watching population of earth was right there with them in Joffrey's case.
Compositing-wise, you guys looked really good in front of the show, in terms of lighting, colors, and costumes ... clearly, in front of it, yet also part of the scene almost.
Once you gals finish season one, I strongly suggest watching the “Game Of Thrones Histories & Lore” for each subsequent season which can help fill in the gaps and backstories. For example: what happened to Ned’s older brother & father, how the seven kingdoms were conquered, How Little-Finger got his nickname, etc. BTW, great reaction 👍
20:30 you're right he was the second brother. The eldest brother and heir was Rhaegar who was killed by Robert during the rebellion. Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna Stark, whom Robert loved, and this event kicked off the whole rebellion that would land Robert on the throne.
33:32 that is actually reality though. the United Kingdom (whose history westerose is based off of) is 4 kingdoms, the kingdom of England, the kingdom of Scotland, the kingdom of Wales, and the kingdom of Ireland (originally), all under a single monarch, hence the United Kingdoms name
Hate to be the "Well, actually" guy, but England was actually seven kingdoms all on its own, in the 700-800's. They were East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Mercia, Northumbria, Sussex, and Wessex
@@ecbenson98 1) im just explaining the example of multiple kingdoms being under 1 monarch. 2) its either the 7 anglo saxon kingdoms or england, there wasnt anything else 3) the seven kingdoms have representation for places and peoples that arent part of england but are part of its history. 4) the dothraki are based on the mongols who started in the 13th century 5) aegon the conqueror is based on william the conqueror which would put the timeline around 500 years after the year 800 and bang in the middle of when the mongols would be around.
@@bigenglishmonkey Targarians are also based off of the Ptolemy's, they're an incestuous Greek/Macedonian family that ruled Egypt for 300 years. Their dynasty ended with their final descendant trying to reclaim her lost Kingdom, Cleopatra.
This isn't exactly true. There are some errors here. First the name isn't United Kingdoms but United Kingdom as it's one united kingdom. The full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. We just say UK for short as it's a mouthful. So let's go back in time. There was the kingdom of England which also contained Wales which was a dominion as the English had conquered it. They used to be ruled by Princes in the past. Wales was never a kingdom. It was part of England as a dominion. Edward I would create the title for his heir to be Prince of Wales and is still in use today with Prince William the eldest son of King Charles III now holding the title. GRRM used the title Prince/Princess of Dragonstone for Targaryen heirs, which is similar to this. The English had control of parts of Ireland and made it a lordship since Henry II who named his son John, lord of Ireland. Then kings of England would also be lords of Ireland until 1542 when it became a kingdom so Henry VIII was the first to use the title king of Ireland. Scotland had it's own kingdom and James VI would end up becoming king of England. So he was king of Scotland, England and Ireland. He was James VI in Scotland but James I in England as there hadn't been a king James in England before. His son Charles I would inherit these titles and so on. In 1707 the acts of union came into action where the kingdoms of England and Scotland were united to create the kingdom of Great Britain. Queen Anne was Queen of England, Scotland and Ireland before that and after the acts of union 1707, she was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland. Another Acts of Union came in 1801 where the kingdoms of Great Britain and Ireland were united which created The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. King George III was king of Great Britain and Ireland before that and after the union, he was King of The United Kingdom. In 1922 Ireland became independent, except for the northern part which is known as Northern Ireland. So the UK is known as The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The 7 kingdoms in Westeros is not the same as the UK. However in Anglo-Saxon England, there was a time when there were 7 kingdoms which were Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Sussex, Wessex, Kent.
@@bigenglishmonkey I was trying to keep it simple, but GRRM was mixing multiple different historical references over many time periods. Westeros is obviously based in large part on England, but its kingdoms also represent countries and cultures from all over Europe, and even Asia in the case of the Dothraki.
An episode per week. The show has 73 episodes. We have 70 more to go guys. That's about a year and four months of watching every week until the last episode. Daamn!
@Diegesis the backstory on Little Finger, Lady Stark, and Ned is that little finger knew caitlyn from childhood - always had a crush on her... caitlyn was betrothed to ned's brother brandon who was killed in action (i think) in a time before the show. as happens in worlds like this (and even in our real life way back then), when the man dies in a relationship it was the responsibilty of the brother to take the woman in if hes not married. I dont remember if little finger was a cause of brandon's death but that could be part of the reason for the extra tension between them. either way, little finger is jealous of ned and ned doesnt like him for obvious reasons.
Lol the Dothraki solider getting on Dany's brother is still funny to me Also no, Viserys, Dany's brother is 1st in line to be king... But Robert and his men stormed the capital and dethrowned the Targeryan dynasty.
Viserys is the first Targaryen in line now and has been since he was approx. 7 years old. When he was born the son of King Aerys, his older brother Rhaegar was the Crown Prince, and then Rhaegar's son Aegon with Elia Martell was technically next in line after Rhaegar- then Rhaegar and Aerys' actions caused the start of Robert's Rebellion, resulting in Rhaegar, Aerys, and finally the infant Aegon's deaths, and so the second son, Viserys, became the next legitimate Targaryen successor (meanwhile his mother died shortly after this while giving birth to Dany in exile). So, they're not wrong that he wasn't originally first in line, but he certainly is now (as you said; I just wanted to provide some clarification).
The concept of arranged marriage is a really weird one nowadays, rightfully so, although it still happens. So, to answer Arya's question, Ned almost doesn't have a choice. Marriages are basically alliances/deals, and marrying a daughter is a huge deal (that's probably why Arya is at court, to learn and get married down the line). It wasn't Ned's decision, and it isn't his vassal's son, it is king's command, so either you basically disobey a king and insult a royal family by refusing to marry into it, or you do what king commands. Marrying into a royal family and basically making your daughter a future Queen of all, and in general your house close to the seat of ultimate power, is no small feat. Dany didn't really want to kill her brother (!) because it is his brother, no matter how much of a scumbag he is, he is the only (!) family she ever knew, and still he is her brother. Blood ties in this, especially for Targaryens and their history of incest and blood mixing (Viserys and Dany are children of incest btw), are very strong. And he is her brother, you don't just order cutting off ears of your brothers, unless you're a maniac or it is some constant offense....well, we'll see what happens.
I'd rather wait for one episode a week than have ya'll rush through it, tbh-- you are both very perceptive of the details and insightful and I really enjoy hearing your commentary!
The 7 Kingdoms used to have kings until Aegon Targaryen: 1. The North (Starks) 2. The Iron Islands (Greyjoys) 3. The Vale (Arryns) 4. The Westerlands (Lannisters) 5. The Reach (Tyrells) 6. The Stormlands (Baratheons) 7. Dorne (Martells) Honorary Mentions: The Riverlands (Tullys) The Crownlands (whoever is in charge of King's Landing) Dragonstone (currently Stannis Baratheon)
The politics is complicated. Hundreds of years earlier there were seven kingdoms in Westeros, then Aegon Targaryan (Aegon the first, AKA Aegon the Conqueror) united them, by force. The Kingdoms is still refered to as "The Seven Kingdoms", but there is only one king. There are, however about eight provinces each held under the control of the leading families of Westeros: The North (held by the Starks), The Iron Islands (Held by the Greyjoys), The Riverlands (held by House Tully), The Vale (held by House Arryn), The Westerlands (ruled from Casterly Rock by House Lanister), The Crownlands (where King's Landing is), The Reach (Ruled from Highgarden by House Tyrell, The Stormlands (Ruled by The Baratheons), and Dorne (Ruled by House Martell). Within each of these provinces, there are several lesser houses that serve the ruling families of those provinces. In the time of the seven kingdoms The Iron Islands were considered part of the Riverlands. If you want a clearer picture of how everything works and the history you can check out the "Wiki of Ice and Fire", but be careful, the more you scroll through the page, the more likely you will be to come across spoilers.
Ned isn’t just having PTSD. He’s worried. That's a man afraid. Remember he said to Arya he feels they’re in danger there? She thinks she's just there learning how to fight, for fun. He's thinking she'll *need* to be able to fight. And winter is coming...
Ned definitely sees the storm clouds gathering alright, but there's certainly PTSD, trauma, or whatever you want to call it, at play here. It was a very purposeful choice to fade from the sound of wooden swords to the clash of real swords. It's a combination of everything, I'd imagine. I agree, though. He's probably looking at Arya practising sword play, an innocent act when times are easy, but he knows what's potentially around the corner. He knows winter is coming.
"If you're playing the long game, it could all be twisted." - Arianna What game? The Game of Thrones, maybe? Also, it's great how you're both working out the plot.
Westeros is a continent that consists of the Seven Kingdoms and the lands north of the wall. The continent eas of the Narrow Sea is called Essos. It is even larger than Westeros and has a lot of nations and city states. South of Essos lies the third continent named Sothoryos, but not much is known about that continent.
Lord Peter “Little finger” Baelish” is one of the most smartest, most strategic, conniving, & power hungry characters in this whole series. He’s pretty much responsible most of everything that happens to the Starks & in most of the seven kingdoms.
8:18 I'm guessing most of the kids were supposed to go to the capitol Bran stayed in the north because he's incapacitated Rob stayed because he's the acting lord while his father is the hand Rickon is too young to go Theon is a ward/hostage
As men of the night's Watch they are required to know how to fight..... But there are others "Duties" that a man of the Night's Watch can do such as Stewart the castle, or become a RANGER...
What makes you think Benjen is not coming back? I am really enjoying the discussion at the end, as well as the comments and reactions! "Rock to the head!" LOL!
i always thought the starks were so righteously hypocritical. They broke their own oaths of fealty when they STAGED A REBELLION AGAINST THE CROWN, ATTACKED THE CAPITAL, AND WERE ON THE WAY TO THE THRONE ROOM. What were they going to do when they got there? reprimand the mad king? smack him on the bottom? but no, they gunnna get snotty because jamie was all like, "screw this!" at the last minute.
Hi! Have you two watched the "Lore" video for S1 (on your own time, I mean, since it looks like there's no reaction to it on Patreon)? There's a "Lore" video after each season that goes into a lot more detail about the (non-spoilery) details of the world that didn't make it into the main show, and it/they may help clarify some things / answer some of your questions. Obviously some stuff is intentionally mysterious at this point, and it doesn't ruin that, but there's a bunch more that's just really hard to absorb all at once from indirect mentions (because the world is so big and rich), and there's no reason to stay confused about that stuff. You're picking up on a lot just on your own, don't get me wrong, but it's more or less impossible to get it all on a first watch.
The 7 kingdoms were the kingdoms that Aegon the conqueror subdues by force, when he first came to Westeros. Hence the name. For example one kingdom is called (The North) which is where winterfell is also which is where the starks are from. Hope that help explains if you go online or to a youtube video they will explain all 7 kingdoms in detail and which different major families are in those kingdoms and most of these 7 kingdoms have alot more than even 3 powerful families in just one of the kingdoms. Hopefully that helps you understand a bit more about what the kindoms are. Peace to you all and im out for now respect aswel!!!
Like this if you want two episodes a week
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pretty sure they're in season 2 or something. They finished Breaking Bad on Patreon probably a month before they aired it on youtube.
Damn this show is amazing. You can notice between the conversation between Jaime and Ned, when Jaime said "it felt like justice" that he was genuinely trying to connect with Ned there and explain to him why he Killed Aerys despite the jabs they were taking at each other. But he is met with a cold wall of judgement. Superb writing and acting
Of course the audience ignores Jaime's genuine attempt, because of the bias: everyone expects him to be a bad guy. I agree: superb writing and acting. ^^
@@GustavoCardoso95 …and it all makes sense at the time, and when you view it later, you totally see it differently.
He genuinely wants that recognition from Ned.
@@mori1bund Good guys push little children out of windows? I understand he's a more complex character than that, but he is a bad man regardless.
@@barstro If he didn't push Brann out the window, the boy then tells what he's seen. This results in the death of all the lannisters, his family. Probably a major war in which countless 'children' would die.
Jamie definitely isn't a good person, but not just bad either. Hes a man shaped by his reality, like the other characters. But sure, if you wanna oversimplify it and judge them from our pov, then yes he and pretty much every single character in the show is 'bad'. All the starks are definitely also bad following that logic.
I almost forgot just how good this show was early on. That back and forth between Ned and Jaime is so good. Top tier dialogue.
and then later they just tried to sound funny and say "fuck" all the time
RIP Margaret John who played Bran's nanny.
In Britain she was more well known for comedy but I forgot how good of a dramatic actress she was and as someone with a Welsh nan she always reminded me of her
and Peter Vaughan who played maester Aemon, and all of the actors who've passed since got started
@@ItsJustDozzyI can’t believe 13 years have already passed since this season aired
@@OceanicSix2342 crazy isn't it 😅
Littlefinger (Petyr Baelish) grew up in Riverrun being fostered by the Tully’s who were Catelyn’s family. He was essentially a little brother to her, though not by blood, and he developed an enduring crush on her.
bruh theyre writing as if theyre gonna have an exam after this ahaha
Came here to see if anyone would comment on that.
They are watching like 5-6 shows at the same time. 😂
they’re trying to remember the characters lol. esp since they’re watching so many shows at the same time
are they watching lore and history videos ?
We might be all dead by the time they finish this on youtube
you said it..
But what is dead may never die.
i thought you still might be rowing 😂
Look it's not as if winter is coming
Better than seeing season 8 again anyway.
I think Arya came to King's Landing to be part of court life. For most ladies across the realm, coming to court is the norm but Ned Stark famously kept his family in the North and away from all of this. So essentially Arya was there to explore, learn, and possibly have marriage prospects. "Master of Tea" is perfect for Varys.
the ‘Careless Whisper’ sax line to Baelish & the ‘Tea Master’ to Varys were hysterical 😂
that shit had me rolling 🤣
Varys is totally asexual though
Maple, you can’t just say you ate something called “worm salt” and not elaborate
It sounds like something that would be used by someone who owns a cauldron.
The first thing i thought was like dried and powdered worms or some like that
salt from worms and insects
@@YourFriendDevin googling is quicker than writing your comment
@@benguensche Thank you. Wow, what would I do without you
Lol...the "Never gonna dance again" sound bite when Stark meets Little Finger was a good touch 😂
Arya was brought with to King's Landing because they hoped that spending time in the capital would help with her learning to be a proper lady. She obviously struggled with that in Winterfell.
Something cruel from the books is also that Catelyn was not prepared to let Bran go to the capital, lose him like that. So when Ned told her his plans to also take Bran, her initial reaction was basically praying for anything to happen but Bran leaving. And then the fall from the tower happened.
Jaime always helping out with the little things when necessary
Wow! Ned’s ptsd and “khaleesi is queen in Dothraki” right off the bat. So many people and reactors fail so hard at those two things.
It’ll make sense in your head as you get more details. The worldbuilding is very thorough. Varyss isn’t in charge of any territory, he is the king’s Master Of Whispers (in charge of spying), and Littlefinger is the Master Of Coin (in charge of finances). Ned Stark (Lord Stark) is the Warden Of The North which means he oversees one of the 7 territories for the king. The 7 territories used to be 7 separate kingdoms ruled by separate kings until the conquest of Aegon Targaryen with his sisters and dragons where they united the 7 kingdoms into 1. Kingdoms functionally are just territories now but they still call them “kingdoms”.
When i first watched it I was so lost... but then you watch it like 2-3 times then you get it.
Jamie is the only family member that Tyrion actually likes and gets along well with, why would he bet against him?
17:00 this scene is also very interesting, at first you might think it's just a silly conversation but Robert is actually trying to get them to open up about trauma. he feels traumatized by the war but tries to hide it under this macho persona.
Yes and no. He longs for war. Robert would have mad a far better king if there had be war in his reign (besides a brief Ironborn rebellion). He can be extremely charismatic, a great leader of men, and an absolute war hero. The climate of his reign isn't one suited to his particular talents. That's why he plunges into Tourneys and hunts so much.
I always come back to this scene because it's such a good portrayal of PTSD without the victim even understanding it. He's haunted by the faces of those he killed and mourning him kind of.
@@k.v.7681 Strangely enough, I've talked to veterans who both have terrible memories of war and yet still tell me that nothing in the civilian world can excite them like war did. The two aren't mutually exclusive, which surprised me.
Y’all should print out a map. The 7 kingdoms indeed refer to all that belongs to Robert Baratheon, there’s a lot of lower lords who don’t necessarily rule a kingdom and just rule over a portion of a larger land which is one of the 7 kingdoms.
Agree, the map would be very useful to give context for the series
The Seven Kingdoms are named that because in Westeros (the continent they are on) there were once seven (technically 8) big and kingdoms:
The North, The Vale, The Stormlands, Dorne, The Reach, The Westerlands, The Iron Islands, and The Riverlands (the riverlands were sometimes independent but often conquered by the others)
Aegon Targaryen 298 years before the show starts, invaded with his sister wives and their dragons and conquered most of Westeros.
2:04 Never noticed Varys his shock when Ned says "Shame you didn't say a prayer for the butcher's son". He didn't expect that. Knew exactly the kind of man Ned was from that single response
Note that although Ned thinks Arya should be a "lady", when she clearly doesn't want to, and got a sword, he didn't just have one of his men teach her how to use it. He got a master swordsman from across the sea.
by the way, the mad king is Daenerys and viserys father which is why he is adamant on becoming king. it’s their rightful place basically
The Arya sword training scene is one of my favourite parts of the whole series. I love the Arya/Ned/John stuff early on.
Being paralyzed in the medieval era must have been one hell of a crappy life... especially when youre not in the royal family
yes... unless you were a powerful noble you would probably die at an young age, either by being abandoned or by the lack of medical treatments. The truth is we know very little about the subject because it wasn't documented a lot
I think it´s crappy in every era.
yay! excited for this journey. curious what Arianna remembers from her reading, so far she seems just as lost as Maple lol.
@chad I hope we get the Little Finger saxophone every time.
Maaaan... I love it when a show is so well written. I never get tired of watching GOT.
After season 4 youd call that well written? It dropped quickly and by the end...dear god
@@BopaBola In terms of writing, I loved seasons 1-6, thought season 7 was OK, and season 8 was... shit show. I am a non-book reader of GOT, however, I hope to read them soon as I just bought the book set. I am also rewatching GOT on my own, currently in season 2. Perhaps my opinion will change.
33:00 There used to be 7 kingdoms in westeros, with 7 differentes kings. The lannisters for example were Kings of the Westerlands and Starks Kings of the north. All that changed when Aegon came from Valyria with his dragons and conquered the seven kingdoms and transformed these kings into Wardens/Higher lords.
So, a little bit of world building backstory that they touch on from the books but don't really go into too much in the show: Peter and Kat grew up together, because Peter came from a very small very upstart noble family. They wanted to help their position, so they sent Peter to be the ward/squire of Kat's father, who was warden of one of the seven kingdoms. Peter always had a crush on Kat, she was in an arranged marriage to Ned's older brother. Peter thought he could be one of the plucky heroes from all of the noble stories, in a very David and Goliath kind of way, so he wanted to challenge Ned's brother to a duel over Kat. Not only was he several years younger, but he was very small and scrawny, and he got his ass handed to him. Like he said, he has a huge scar from his belly button to his neck from it.
Even though Kat didn't love Peter, she still cared about him in a platonic way, so she pleaded for Ned's brother not to kill him. So not only did Peter probably feel a lot of shame for losing the duel he was the one that made the challenge to, but he probably also felt pretty emasculated by having a woman save his life.
But even after the mad king killed Ned's father and brother in the throne room at kings landing, Peter never had a chance with Kat because Ned basically inherited his brother's arranged betrothal.
So that's basically the explanation on why Peter made the comment he did after Ned tried to choke him out, why he said he could never refuse Kat anything, and why she isn't surprised and doesn't give a shit that he's still in love with her.
Ser Duncan the Tall mentioned! Dany loves her brother. His backstory is actually quite sad. Of course that doesnt excuse his actions in the present but it does explain why he became that way and why Dany cares for him.
It's been a bit since I read book 1 in ASOIAF, I'm about halfway through book 2 and I've been trying to read it for a couple of years, but I think in book 1 Dany even says she wants to be Viserys's Queen, not Drogo's. She WANTS to marry her brother at first, which was common in the Targaryen Family 'to keep the bloodlines pure.' But yeah, Viserys is a POS, but she cares about him.
He’s called little finger because he comes from the smallest finger of the finger lakes. I also like to think it’s a nod to Dr. Evils pinky when he is plotting.
all of his fingers are little
@@benguensche all 11
Lakes?!
The fingers are peninsulas. That's why they look like fingers
@@l00d3r 😎
@@SwiftJusticeEh, they probably confused the real life Finger Lakes in Upstate NY with the finger peninsula’s of the GoT world.
You guys need to study a map of a Song of Ice and Fire. Will all make sense. The opening credits are a big map showing the relative locations of the show. This thing takes place across two huge separate continents.
Listen to what Baelish said. He said he lost the dagger because he bet on Jamie. That means Tyrion bet AGAINST his brother. Does that sound plausible?
The scene with Joffrey and Cersei is interesting for two reasons that I think are often overlooked:
1. For a moment, Joffrey is, as you both noted, actually honest about what happened with him and Arya. He even tries to assert that he didn't behave very honorably. It's his mother who pushes on him the idea that he can shape the truth as he sees fit. He's probably almost that arrogant already. But who knows, maybe there was a moment when his humiliation with the wolf might have made him a little more humble.
2. Joffrey is basically right about relying on dozens of lords to raise independent armies being primitive and inefficient. The idea of a single standing army for the whole country is probably the way to go. For better or worse, Joffrey is pretty advanced in his thinking. He's not wise about the details. And he is way too vengeful. But he is occasionally right about certain things.
Sighhhh all the feels come back rewatching this with y'all.... knowing whats coming... Also I appreciate the breakdown at the end of the episode hearing you guys trying to flesh out and figure out what's going on. 😎
73 episodes. 73 weeks. 17 months.
It’s okY , we only got to get to season 5
Did you two realize that Little Finger is played by Aidan Gillen, the same actor who plays Aberama Gold in Peaky Blinders (he's a bit older in Peaky)?
He also has a small role as the CIA agent that gets killed by Bane in the opening of Dark Knight Rises, which Maple watched on this channel.
They’ve mentioned it a few times in the Peaky Blinders reaction videos
@@allieren OK, thanks. Didn't realize that.
Excellent notes, analysis and speculation at the end! Enjoying watching you both piece things together. Hope you’re enjoying the show!
I wish you had GoT vids say, twice a week. There's just so many amazing parts I remember that I am so eager to see y'all react to! 😊
Wait until they really get to know Joffrey 😊😂
Oh, I’m sure they’ll just adore him, as we all do.
And all the people who criticized their level of hatred for Walter White haven't seen anything yet.
Of course, the entire TV watching population of earth was right there with them in Joffrey's case.
Yeah he is a right proper lad.
Compositing-wise, you guys looked really good in front of the show, in terms of lighting, colors, and costumes ... clearly, in front of it, yet also part of the scene almost.
I’m loving this. The pages of notes tickles the shit out of me. Sweet summer children.
Fun fact! The actor who plays Viserys is the same actor who voices Viktor in Arcane.
Maple’s whiteboard reveal. 😂
An episode a week is actually fucking insane wtf
Once you gals finish season one, I strongly suggest watching the “Game Of Thrones Histories & Lore” for each subsequent season which can help fill in the gaps and backstories. For example: what happened to Ned’s older brother & father, how the seven kingdoms were conquered, How Little-Finger got his nickname, etc. BTW, great reaction 👍
I'm just here in the comments for the weekly moan from people who want more than one episode a week 😅
Not sure if it's been brought up but the actor that plays Viserys( Daenerys 's brother )does the voice of Viktor in Arcane
ooh neat
20:30 you're right he was the second brother. The eldest brother and heir was Rhaegar who was killed by Robert during the rebellion. Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna Stark, whom Robert loved, and this event kicked off the whole rebellion that would land Robert on the throne.
33:32 that is actually reality though.
the United Kingdom (whose history westerose is based off of) is 4 kingdoms, the kingdom of England, the kingdom of Scotland, the kingdom of Wales, and the kingdom of Ireland (originally), all under a single monarch, hence the United Kingdoms name
Hate to be the "Well, actually" guy, but England was actually seven kingdoms all on its own, in the 700-800's. They were East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Mercia, Northumbria, Sussex, and Wessex
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1) im just explaining the example of multiple kingdoms being under 1 monarch.
2) its either the 7 anglo saxon kingdoms or england, there wasnt anything else
3) the seven kingdoms have representation for places and peoples that arent part of england but are part of its history.
4) the dothraki are based on the mongols who started in the 13th century
5) aegon the conqueror is based on william the conqueror which would put the timeline around 500 years after the year 800 and bang in the middle of when the mongols would be around.
@@bigenglishmonkey Targarians are also based off of the Ptolemy's, they're an incestuous Greek/Macedonian family that ruled Egypt for 300 years. Their dynasty ended with their final descendant trying to reclaim her lost Kingdom, Cleopatra.
This isn't exactly true.
There are some errors here. First the name isn't United Kingdoms but United Kingdom as it's one united kingdom. The full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. We just say UK for short as it's a mouthful.
So let's go back in time. There was the kingdom of England which also contained Wales which was a dominion as the English had conquered it. They used to be ruled by Princes in the past. Wales was never a kingdom. It was part of England as a dominion. Edward I would create the title for his heir to be Prince of Wales and is still in use today with Prince William the eldest son of King Charles III now holding the title. GRRM used the title Prince/Princess of Dragonstone for Targaryen heirs, which is similar to this.
The English had control of parts of Ireland and made it a lordship since Henry II who named his son John, lord of Ireland. Then kings of England would also be lords of Ireland until 1542 when it became a kingdom so Henry VIII was the first to use the title king of Ireland.
Scotland had it's own kingdom and James VI would end up becoming king of England. So he was king of Scotland, England and Ireland. He was James VI in Scotland but James I in England as there hadn't been a king James in England before. His son Charles I would inherit these titles and so on.
In 1707 the acts of union came into action where the kingdoms of England and Scotland were united to create the kingdom of Great Britain. Queen Anne was Queen of England, Scotland and Ireland before that and after the acts of union 1707, she was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland.
Another Acts of Union came in 1801 where the kingdoms of Great Britain and Ireland were united which created The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. King George III was king of Great Britain and Ireland before that and after the union, he was King of The United Kingdom.
In 1922 Ireland became independent, except for the northern part which is known as Northern Ireland. So the UK is known as The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
The 7 kingdoms in Westeros is not the same as the UK. However in Anglo-Saxon England, there was a time when there were 7 kingdoms which were Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Sussex, Wessex, Kent.
@@bigenglishmonkey I was trying to keep it simple, but GRRM was mixing multiple different historical references over many time periods. Westeros is obviously based in large part on England, but its kingdoms also represent countries and cultures from all over Europe, and even Asia in the case of the Dothraki.
How about those metal clanking sounds as they fought with the wooden swords.🤐
An episode per week. The show has 73 episodes. We have 70 more to go guys.
That's about a year and four months of watching every week until the last episode. Daamn!
And then HOTD as well lol S3 will be released by then
@Diegesis the backstory on Little Finger, Lady Stark, and Ned is that little finger knew caitlyn from childhood - always had a crush on her... caitlyn was betrothed to ned's brother brandon who was killed in action (i think) in a time before the show. as happens in worlds like this (and even in our real life way back then), when the man dies in a relationship it was the responsibilty of the brother to take the woman in if hes not married. I dont remember if little finger was a cause of brandon's death but that could be part of the reason for the extra tension between them. either way, little finger is jealous of ned and ned doesnt like him for obvious reasons.
Lol the Dothraki solider getting on Dany's brother is still funny to me
Also no, Viserys, Dany's brother is 1st in line to be king... But Robert and his men stormed the capital and dethrowned the Targeryan dynasty.
Viserys is the first Targaryen in line now and has been since he was approx. 7 years old. When he was born the son of King Aerys, his older brother Rhaegar was the Crown Prince, and then Rhaegar's son Aegon with Elia Martell was technically next in line after Rhaegar- then Rhaegar and Aerys' actions caused the start of Robert's Rebellion, resulting in Rhaegar, Aerys, and finally the infant Aegon's deaths, and so the second son, Viserys, became the next legitimate Targaryen successor (meanwhile his mother died shortly after this while giving birth to Dany in exile).
So, they're not wrong that he wasn't originally first in line, but he certainly is now (as you said; I just wanted to provide some clarification).
The concept of arranged marriage is a really weird one nowadays, rightfully so, although it still happens. So, to answer Arya's question, Ned almost doesn't have a choice. Marriages are basically alliances/deals, and marrying a daughter is a huge deal (that's probably why Arya is at court, to learn and get married down the line). It wasn't Ned's decision, and it isn't his vassal's son, it is king's command, so either you basically disobey a king and insult a royal family by refusing to marry into it, or you do what king commands. Marrying into a royal family and basically making your daughter a future Queen of all, and in general your house close to the seat of ultimate power, is no small feat.
Dany didn't really want to kill her brother (!) because it is his brother, no matter how much of a scumbag he is, he is the only (!) family she ever knew, and still he is her brother. Blood ties in this, especially for Targaryens and their history of incest and blood mixing (Viserys and Dany are children of incest btw), are very strong. And he is her brother, you don't just order cutting off ears of your brothers, unless you're a maniac or it is some constant offense....well, we'll see what happens.
Renlie Barartheon is Robert's youngest brother
8:46 - *Duncan the Tall* name drop!
The main character of the next Game of Thrones spinoff "Dunk & Egg" 😁
I'd rather wait for one episode a week than have ya'll rush through it, tbh-- you are both very perceptive of the details and insightful and I really enjoy hearing your commentary!
Time to get actually notebooks ladies lol. Family name per page works best. =P and yes commenters I know they are far along now.
“The Tea Master” got me lmao
"Why did Arya come?"
As a young girl she's being "presented at court" to finish her education as a lady, and maybe make a future match.
“The Tea Master” 😂😂😂
The 7 Kingdoms used to have kings until Aegon Targaryen:
1. The North (Starks)
2. The Iron Islands (Greyjoys)
3. The Vale (Arryns)
4. The Westerlands (Lannisters)
5. The Reach (Tyrells)
6. The Stormlands (Baratheons)
7. Dorne (Martells)
Honorary Mentions:
The Riverlands (Tullys)
The Crownlands (whoever is in charge of King's Landing)
Dragonstone (currently Stannis Baratheon)
Tea Master is the perfect name for Varys, I can't believe I never thought of that lmao.
I love watching Your Breakdown and theories! at the end! Great!!!
GRRM might finish the book by the time they finish uploading their reactions on here
LMAO, both sound impossible tbh 💀
The politics is complicated. Hundreds of years earlier there were seven kingdoms in Westeros, then Aegon Targaryan (Aegon the first, AKA Aegon the Conqueror) united them, by force. The Kingdoms is still refered to as "The Seven Kingdoms", but there is only one king. There are, however about eight provinces each held under the control of the leading families of Westeros: The North (held by the Starks), The Iron Islands (Held by the Greyjoys), The Riverlands (held by House Tully), The Vale (held by House Arryn), The Westerlands (ruled from Casterly Rock by House Lanister), The Crownlands (where King's Landing is), The Reach (Ruled from Highgarden by House Tyrell, The Stormlands (Ruled by The Baratheons), and Dorne (Ruled by House Martell). Within each of these provinces, there are several lesser houses that serve the ruling families of those provinces. In the time of the seven kingdoms The Iron Islands were considered part of the Riverlands. If you want a clearer picture of how everything works and the history you can check out the "Wiki of Ice and Fire", but be careful, the more you scroll through the page, the more likely you will be to come across spoilers.
In what world would Terrian bet against Jamie in the jousting tournament?
Ned isn’t just having PTSD. He’s worried. That's a man afraid. Remember he said to Arya he feels they’re in danger there? She thinks she's just there learning how to fight, for fun. He's thinking she'll *need* to be able to fight. And winter is coming...
Ned definitely sees the storm clouds gathering alright, but there's certainly PTSD, trauma, or whatever you want to call it, at play here. It was a very purposeful choice to fade from the sound of wooden swords to the clash of real swords. It's a combination of everything, I'd imagine.
I agree, though. He's probably looking at Arya practising sword play, an innocent act when times are easy, but he knows what's potentially around the corner. He knows winter is coming.
@@brownsey1 you're right on all counts 👏
"If you're playing the long game, it could all be twisted." - Arianna
What game? The Game of Thrones, maybe?
Also, it's great how you're both working out the plot.
Westeros is a continent that consists of the Seven Kingdoms and the lands north of the wall.
The continent eas of the Narrow Sea is called Essos. It is even larger than Westeros and has a lot of nations and city states.
South of Essos lies the third continent named Sothoryos, but not much is known about that continent.
Arya went to King's Landing for mariage prospects.
Bran's nanny offers to tell a story about Ser Duncan the Tall, who will the the subject of the next HBO series, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
I deeply don't think you need to take this many notes to understand the show, but I appreciate the dedication 😂
Lord Peter “Little finger” Baelish” is one of the most smartest, most strategic, conniving, & power hungry characters in this whole series. He’s pretty much responsible most of everything that happens to the Starks & in most of the seven kingdoms.
The Gold Clokes are the personal Guards of the Crown... And Jamie Lannister is the KING'S GUARD THEIR CAPTAIN
I know they're ahead of this episode on Patreon so I hope these ladies eventually got their hands on a map lol
8:18
I'm guessing most of the kids were supposed to go to the capitol
Bran stayed in the north because he's incapacitated
Rob stayed because he's the acting lord while his father is the hand
Rickon is too young to go
Theon is a ward/hostage
Great reaction , and really enjoyed your breakdown at the end .
I love that you’re finally doing Game of Thrones with both of these beautiful ladies 👍
omg a game of thrones re watch! i cant believe it so excited to watch with you guys
Okay, "The Teamaster" is the best name for Varys that I've ever heard.
"back alley sally" .. i like that one.. gonna have to remember that lol
As men of the night's Watch they are required to know how to fight..... But there are others "Duties" that a man of the Night's Watch can do such as Stewart the castle, or become a RANGER...
Episode 2 had them crying they ain’t ready
23:30 the way I see it curiosity is just as dangerous as naivety
26:44 - That was a Skyler White Accountant moment right there 😅😅
And I'm Tony your EXPERT in everything in "A Song of ICE 🧊 AND FIRE 🔥"
I really like your GoT reactions. Definitely a big fan and subscriber. Keep it up!
there is a map of westeros ladys. you should take a look here an then :) its good to know where the seven kingdoms are
Start doing 2 episodes a week trust me it'll help you guys
So we not going to acknowledge the careless whisper plug in 😂😂
So in love with the first season
What makes you think Benjen is not coming back? I am really enjoying the discussion at the end, as well as the comments and reactions! "Rock to the head!" LOL!
i always thought the starks were so righteously hypocritical. They broke their own oaths of fealty when they STAGED A REBELLION AGAINST THE CROWN, ATTACKED THE CAPITAL, AND WERE ON THE WAY TO THE THRONE ROOM. What were they going to do when they got there? reprimand the mad king? smack him on the bottom? but no, they gunnna get snotty because jamie was all like, "screw this!" at the last minute.
Like this if you're grateful for whatever they're able to do and have no right to demand they go faster since you're not paying them. ;)
U shouldn'tve edited out Old Nann. Make sure u watch the lore eps at the end of each season. They're already on yt so no editing required
I am exited to watch this again alongside you, Valar morgulis
Love me some Ned Stark. Ned is such a likeable character
That's OLD NAN.... SHE TELLS REALLY SCARY STORIES THAT ARE 💯% TRUE
Hi! Have you two watched the "Lore" video for S1 (on your own time, I mean, since it looks like there's no reaction to it on Patreon)? There's a "Lore" video after each season that goes into a lot more detail about the (non-spoilery) details of the world that didn't make it into the main show, and it/they may help clarify some things / answer some of your questions. Obviously some stuff is intentionally mysterious at this point, and it doesn't ruin that, but there's a bunch more that's just really hard to absorb all at once from indirect mentions (because the world is so big and rich), and there's no reason to stay confused about that stuff. You're picking up on a lot just on your own, don't get me wrong, but it's more or less impossible to get it all on a first watch.
The 7 kingdoms were the kingdoms that Aegon the conqueror subdues by force, when he first came to Westeros. Hence the name. For example one kingdom is called (The North) which is where winterfell is also which is where the starks are from. Hope that help explains if you go online or to a youtube video they will explain all 7 kingdoms in detail and which different major families are in those kingdoms and most of these 7 kingdoms have alot more than even 3 powerful families in just one of the kingdoms. Hopefully that helps you understand a bit more about what the kindoms are. Peace to you all and im out for now respect aswel!!!