The Wire 2x8 Reaction/Thoughts "How come they don’t fly away?"

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  • @NubileReptile
    @NubileReptile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love the symbolism of McNulty crashing his car drunk, then driving back, attempting the exact same thing and crashing all over again. That's basically who McNulty is in a nutshell: a guy who crashes and then, and when he gets a second chance, does the exact same things that caused him to crash the first time, and will keep doing the same for as long as he gets new chances. He learns no lessons, or at least it takes a lot for him to learn.
    And yeah, a lot of people hate Ziggy, and I understand why, but I pity him. There has to be some kind of mental illness at work there; he just lacks anything even remotely close to judgement and common sense. A guy like that shouldn't be within ten miles of a criminal conspiracy.

    • @honeybadger7105
      @honeybadger7105 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice observation on McNulty. As for Ziggy- there’s no mental illness; just a need to prove himself & feed his ego. When I first watch this show I tried to understand him as well.. but he’s just a little fish who thinks he should be a shark. He’s not built for anything but bait. Which is his own doing..

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the breakdown of McNulty and I feel you on the pity for ziggy but again lol bare minimum out of me ✊🏾

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@honeybadger7105 “He’s not built for anything but bait” 🔥🔥🔥

  • @a7xSkateboarding
    @a7xSkateboarding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding the waitress, I was thinking exactly the same thing at first. Just re-watched the entire show, and noticed his badge is showing when he's sitting in his booth. She's just a badge-bunny lol

  • @EvilN00bs
    @EvilN00bs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, never thought about Ziggy's arc being bullying, that's a whole different perspective.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid insights on the opening, thanks!

  • @wj6604
    @wj6604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have known many white guys like Nick, when I'm around they cool, when I'm not then I'm a n****r. I've caught them saying it when they thought I wasn't there. I have a bi-racial friend who looks white and he has told me what really goes on because white people think he is part of 'The White Club'. He has had mad drama because of it. There's levels to it. Nick is indicative of most white racism, he's cool as long as you know your place.

  • @Rob_Fordd
    @Rob_Fordd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your analysis, you are spot on. Nick basically has a sense of entitlement because of being a white nephew of a bigshot growing up in an environment where casual racism wasn't discouraged. He's under a lot of stress and pressure, but at the same time he still definitely has the privilege of being white in this society, and he just can't see that.

    • @tommorgan7599
      @tommorgan7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was his dad a bigshot?

    • @Rob_Fordd
      @Rob_Fordd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tommorgan7599 Not his father, I meant his uncle in the union. His uncle isn't rich but he carries a hell of a lot of weight with the Docks.

    • @outtahere1456
      @outtahere1456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tommorgan7599 I think he meant his uncle because his uncle ran the union and took care of them for a while

  • @dudermcdudeface3674
    @dudermcdudeface3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It shows how weak Nick is that he has to play big shot around Ziggy. Nobody else really approves of Nick (Frank is always skeptical), so he looks for approval from someone he doesn't even respect. You can feel sorry for Ziggy, but Nick is just a fuckup. What can anybody do for an ordinary fuckup?

  • @LuigiPesto
    @LuigiPesto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:04 LMAO

  • @dead_girl__
    @dead_girl__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I def get Joker vibes from Ziggy. That actor plays almost the same character in a film called Ken Park. It's very messed up and I don't recommend it unless you have a strong stomach

  • @jeffwilliams2828
    @jeffwilliams2828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my ancestors was in the bottom of a slave ship with a dozen other enslaved being transported between the carribean and south carolina. There was one white irishman in chains as well. Indentured servant. While their circumstances were different, and my grandfather could empathize, at no point did that white man considered blacks equal. Nor was his terms of servitude equal. Nick Sobotka aint new and he’s certainly not-not racist. There is no neutral ground on racism.

  • @ZChoate
    @ZChoate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nick is not a white supremacist lol. Still love the channel though.

    • @ItsDefOver9000
      @ItsDefOver9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk how you can emphatically say that when there is a preponderance of evidence suggesting that he is a racist, more than that which suggests he isn’t.
      Eternal even highlighted these points in the video. You don’t have to be a skinhead Neo-Nazi like in American History X to harbor white supremacist/nationalist views which Nick is shown to to hold. He’s stereotypically portrayed as a blue collar rough and tumble white American of immigrant stock who despite financial struggle, views those in his racial demographic as above that of black folk in the same economic class.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I said he’s a couple steps away from being a white Supremacist. Not that he was one. Definitely racist but not KKK racist or a threat. The words come straight out Nick Sabotka own mouth and people will still say he’s not racist… this is America.

  • @SupportGamin2024
    @SupportGamin2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't wait until you get to season 3 and 4

  • @OsefKincaid
    @OsefKincaid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The main arc of Ziggy's storyline is about bullying. I don't think I've ever seen anyone else comment on this, thank you so much for this :)

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ziggy makes it hard to notice but it’s their, thank you ✊🏾

    • @OsefKincaid
      @OsefKincaid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@eternal47777 It's often how it works with people who are bullied, they have some characteristic that focuses the negative attention on them. Ziggy is a bit of a caricature of this in that he's all of it: obnoxious, incompetent, maybe a bit socially awkward, and weak. It tends to lead the audience into thinking that the bullying he receives is warranted, justified. Maybe the show went too far with it. I wonder if they were trying to show something with him and Nick, as Nick is clearly a worse person than Ziggy morally but the way he behaves makes him more acceptable and accepted in his environment.

    • @Cobbido
      @Cobbido วันที่ผ่านมา

      If anyone deserved to be bullied it was Ziggy. Unfortunately he didn't learn from it.

    • @OsefKincaid
      @OsefKincaid วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Cobbido He did learn from it, he learned that it was extremely important for him to find a way to earn the respect of the rest of the stevedores so that they would stop bullying him.

  • @jori1
    @jori1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You gotta appreciate how they write such real characters that they inspire discussion like the one in the beginning. The whole drug thing etc. is definitely a class issue, but I think it's fair to say that Nick does view it as a race issue. I think it's good to show that a person can be racist without foaming at the mouth everytime they see a black dude.
    Edit: Also seems like a good time to mention that the actor playing Frank's brother (Robert Hogan) died last month. RIP.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly… I don’t fuck with nick but I love how real his character is when it comes to reality. Rest in power Robert Hogan. Thanks fam ✊🏾

  • @Siegmeyer.
    @Siegmeyer. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ziggy is one of those unfortunates who never find their place in life. He's not built for back-breaking dock labor, his mouthiness gets him into way too much trouble, he has no work ethic or street smarts to work with the Greeks/drug dealers, etc.
    And to top it off it's just like you said, everybody around him peer pressures him and knows he's weak-minded/weak-willed, but us the viewers laugh first then reflect later.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “Us the viewers laugh first then reflect later.” Bar

    • @dudermcdudeface3674
      @dudermcdudeface3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That scene explains so much. He pretends like he's trying to figure out how the crash happened, like an intellectual exercise. But really he's just refusing to accept responsibility.

  • @eiriksrvik1826
    @eiriksrvik1826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Agree with you about Nick. I seen it myself. Only thing I’d say that people like Ott get some exception status in Nick’s mind. It’s not just about tolerating them. "You don’t act like the others, so your blackness don’t count against you"

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “It’s not just about tolerating” that’s real

    • @xellestar
      @xellestar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never got that, Nick's not looking down on black people he's looking down on that fool for acting black when he's not - it's phony, fake and insincere and it shows

  • @matthewoliva7297
    @matthewoliva7297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro! You should really watch Snowfall on Hulu, that shit is mad good and I think you’d have great reactions watching it.

  • @LukeIsyourfasha
    @LukeIsyourfasha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Poot during the real estate scene. “Ya’ll too late” His 4 foot skinny ass gets big real quick, and adds his smirk to it. One of the most underrated characters.

  • @anonymous122586
    @anonymous122586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You definitely should push out 2 videos a week! A lot of people love this show! Just a suggestion…

  • @alexbaker9578
    @alexbaker9578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, your analysis always so on point. Your sympathy for Ziggy is right on the money. A shallow interpretation of the show, Ziggy is just an impulsive asshole, but Idk I think that you are right. He is in deep pain, feels worthless and is desperate for approval, and essentially spirals deeper and deeper until finally snapping. Illustrates how Frank's myopia concerning his adopted union family cost him his TRUE legacy, his son. I highly doubt ziggy would have turned out the way he did if Frank had paid more attention to him

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Frank loved his way of living more than his son along with others led all to this, agreed. Hope all is well Fam ✊🏾

  • @spruce381
    @spruce381 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s not about being black in my opinion, it’s about not wanting to be poor.
    There were hardly any black folk on Dublin Ireland, where I grew up but there were still projects, with all white communities living life with few opportunities, selling drugs and living the same life as poor urban US black folk was the norm.

  • @Kickenwing13
    @Kickenwing13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first time, probably thanks to your commentary? Got my brain going and I've watched this shit like 15 times it seems. But it's the first time I've noted the common theme. Nick looking down on the black drug dealers, Nick's dad, I think that's who that is, looking down on Frank for the same shit ( not doing it straight). I don't know what it really means but they really like doing that same theme in an episode in different ways and it's the first time I really noticed that. I think Nick partially looks at it like he's doing it a more straight way, his dad saying the same thing to Frank. But I know it's not just that cut and dry because Nick ends up doing the same thing and doesn't have a problem with it so it definitely lens itself to Nick being racist as well. Just thought the comp was interesting

  • @soldnerfreak4712
    @soldnerfreak4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best wire reaction out there
    cant wait for season 3 and 4

  • @richieclean
    @richieclean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like Season 2 is a slow build, but the way it all plays out in the last few episodes is a great payoff.

  • @michaelras1818
    @michaelras1818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    maui is a good guy. he could have beat ziggy up really bad but he did not. and he was mad with the others, too.

  • @ryder1757
    @ryder1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro that pink shirt is 🔥

  • @vishnuprasad2884
    @vishnuprasad2884 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bodie😁

  • @thomasgriffiths6758
    @thomasgriffiths6758 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen the series more than 10 times in my life and rewatching it with you and starting to realize one of the themes in the movie or the TV show excuse me is personal vendettas the judge, bubbles Omar, McNulty, Bunk at times have personal vendettas that drive them and in turn drive the agenda
    oh yeah also the guy with the Dove in the stain glass window.
    Keep up the good work by friend I enjoy it and I will look forward to the next episodes

  • @jasminehill6312
    @jasminehill6312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "How come they don't fly away?" Applies to so many characters and their situations in this show!!! Ziggy, not being nurtured towards his sills and abilities reminds me of someone we'll meet later 😉

  • @FH-hu5vn
    @FH-hu5vn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Get a new coat, a new car" says the Greek. I wonder if that's a veiled threat to Ziggy who got himself a new coat and had his car torched. Do what we say or....
    As for Ziggy, Horseface and the others are egging him on and goading him into fighting Maui and then they have the fucking nerve to complain to Frank that "you should have seen what Ziggy did" shaking their heads.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is dope lol didn’t think about Ziggy when the Greek spoke those words.

  • @shaquilleburton1611
    @shaquilleburton1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm ready for next episode

  • @shaquilleburton1611
    @shaquilleburton1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bodie is my boy💯😂

  • @Sco3000
    @Sco3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate your reactions man and thanks for elaborating on the Nicky topic. And just for good measure I wasn't trying to say they're friends because they work together, I also meant how they hang out after work whether it be at the bar or whatever. Either way, after hearing you go deeper into that, I understand your point.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear you brother. It’s all love and again appreciate all the support fam 💯 we’re you from again? I think you told me before and it was overseas. Just want to see if I’m trippin or not lol

    • @Sco3000
      @Sco3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eternal47777 I'm from Massachusetts, bout 30 mins north of Boston.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Sco3000 nevermind I was trippin lol hold it down in the cold big dog ✊🏾

    • @Sco3000
      @Sco3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eternal47777 haha thanks man, catch u in the next one

  • @cooleekbrown1728
    @cooleekbrown1728 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair 24 in a 20 can be dangerous on a dock.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wasn’t being serious lol but thanks for that info fam ✊🏾

  • @jayjacobl4667
    @jayjacobl4667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I could use 3 more inches of meat" was waiting to hear "that's a bar"

  • @voodoomagic71685
    @voodoomagic71685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Ooo.....he aight"
    😂😂😂

  • @tommorgan7599
    @tommorgan7599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Takes guts wearing a pink shirt in the TH-cam Reaction Scene…guts or a familiarity with alternative lifestyles.

  • @ZChoate
    @ZChoate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you're very intelligent and you certainly see the hypocrisy which with the world operates. But you're a bit of a know it all. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to insult you. Sometimes things that hurt are things we need to hear.

    • @eternal47777
      @eternal47777  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t know it all lol I just try to give as much as can this.

    • @abnormpsych17
      @abnormpsych17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is annoying and a terrible critique. He's reacting, analyzing and offering opinion what do you want?