Capcom and the Sega Genesis
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- Let's take a look at the Capcom games that appeared on the Sega Genesis and Mega Drive.
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Opening 3D Logo By:
Jan Neves
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Episode Notes:
1. Footage captured via a Mega SG.
2. If you are interested in the Mega Man X demos for the Genesis, get em here:
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3. Contrary to popular belief, Visco did not entirely develop Chiki Chiki Boys on the Genesis. They were responsible for the sound and music.
4. Visit romhacks.net for the Street Fighter sound patches.
5. Strider on the Genesis has heavy data compression to fit into the 8megs. You'll notice a number of times during gameplay, it pauses to introduce new sound and graphics data.
6. I so wish that Sega had continued to license Capcom properties after 1993. The Punisher, done by Sega themselves on the Sega CD, would have been killer.
7. Capcom was interested in the 32X early in its life. They started development on Street Fighter The Movie, Darkstalkers, and Alien vs Predator. Of course, with 32X bombing, all projects were cancelled.
8. Despite there rather poor support of the Genesis, they would go on to be prolific backers of both the Saturn and Dreamcast. So much so, I dare say those systems wouldn't have been the same without them.
9. I make it sound like Chiki Chiki Boys is 2 player. It is in the arcade version. While editing I cut out a small section about the arcade. The "doubly so if you have a friend in tow" was actually connected to that. The Genesis game is single player only.
Check description for info on hacks for Street Fighter II and demos for Mega Man X Genesis version.
Sega Lord X ever play Sega 16 forum sf2sce stefs arcade audio and color graphic version 7 fix rom ? It destroys snes version (just meant that specific version thanks for mentioned that stuff in video !) great video ! I got all 5 turbo demo roms want me send to you? Yes capcom messed up on sound etc on genesis sf2
Sega Lord X why did some carts have so much memory and others so few? If the Genesis can read both then why limit the games potential? Was it because chip prices were high and they wanted to bring in the finished product under budget to turn a profit?
Surprised you didn't mention the input lag in Wiley Wars, that's was really killed the experience for me.
Thank you so much for the Mega man x demos! I've been looking all over for this!
Oh and great video as usual!
Ps. Forgotten worlds was my favorite game way back when! Loved seeing the girl in the shop... 😍
Sega Lord X Treasure games next please
The Genesis port of Ghouls 'n Ghosts was programmed by Yuji Naka! I've been playing it at least once a month for the past 31 years! ❤️
Gotta keep that masterpiece alive. Awesome.
Joe from Gamesack is that you?
Wow that's dedicated man! I remember watching my brother beat the game ever day on the master system. How he could do it I'll never know! Megadrive version is superb
Man, I LOVE that game on the Genesis.
Isn't scott Wozniak that tryhard kid who is actually trying to school people on the retro/history of games? Aka Scott the woz?
Jokes aside, im sure there are plenty of scott wozniaks in the world..
One of the most exciting moments as a child Genesis owner was seeing the preview for Street Fighter II Champion Edition in the latest issue of Video Games and Computer Entertainment.
Thats hilarious, because mine was in C+VG aka computer and video games. 🤣
Oh and EGM also.
@@rickylovesyou I saw it previewed on Gamesmaster first. It didn't disappoint it's a great version.
the Genesis version was rather good, considering the 64 colors on screen at once limit. it plays very well like the arcade. it’s more faithful because of the Motorola 68000 in the Genesis and CPS1 and CPS2.
It was such a moment when SFII hit the megadrive, wasn't it
Yup. My mom got me the game and 2 six-button controllers. Good times.
I remember the first SFII on SNES, then I saw the Genesis one in ads and was jealous of how cool it looked compared to the bland OG.
I got SF2 and a Nomad. it was truly awesome
Shut my SNES owning friends up, that's for sure.
Yes it was, i recieved a VHS promo from one of the game magazines I had a subscription to a month before it dropped. I watched that everyday!
WOW! That Mega Man X on Mega Drive is amazing. Kudos for the developers.
Still till this day Chiki Chiki Boys is a great little game.
Why does the artwork for that game look inspired from _Dragonball?_
Not technically a "Genesis" game, Final Fight CD certainly deserved a mention!
impossiblescissors Amazing add to Sega. If you love beat em ups Final Fight sealed the deal which console to buy. All you need is Final Fight and Streets of Rage
Certainly a helluva lot better than the SNES version, and even has enough differences from the arcade version (CD quality music and full voice acted intro) to make it worth playing today.
@@cinnamondan4984 Final Fight CD forever amazing....
They fixed all the lag issues that Mega Man Wily Wars had back in the day on the SEGA Mini. I was really surprised how well this one ran on it :)
I was about to be all like "but what about Quackshot!" and then remembered that was by Sega. I guess I just have a rather sharp association between Capcom and Disney.
You're right. Some of Disney games on SNES were developed by Capcom
You should follow this up with Capcom's releases on the Master System dude, they were one of the few companies loyal to Sega in the early days, them and Taito.
Hey, you.
Capcom always treated Sega like shit until the Saturn got released
All Capcom games were reprogrammed by Sega or US Gold, Capcom wasn't allowed to program games for other consoles until their exclusivity deal with a certain company expired... Taito on the other hand was one of the best developers on the Master System.
@@Geobardi what capcom games did us gold develop for the sms, aside from strider returns?
@@Larry Strider Returns on the SMS and Mega Man on the Game Gear are the ones i remember from US Gold.
Have you ever read the novel "Console Wars?" It's a novelization of the 16-bit wars between Sega and Nintendo primarily told from the perspective of Sega's Tom Kalinske from the time he takes over at Sega to the launch of the Saturn and his departure from Sega of America.
No shit, is that really a novel?
I need to read that.
Forgotten Worlds is one of my favorite games.
Oh man, that Mega Man X port would've been an awesome Sega Genesis Mini bonus. And not completely unthinkable, being that Darius on the Genesis Mini started as a homebrew port as well.
Konami and Capcom were the two premier arcade game makers and console third party publishers in the late 80s and early 90s and were pretty much Nintendo's second party devs due to being locked into monopolistic contracts. The only thing they were allowed to do for the other consoles was to sell the rights to port/reprogram their arcade games to Sega and Hudson/NEC Avenue. However, when Nintendo's monopoly was ended by a Japanese court, Konami fully embraced the creative freedom and the different hardware capabilities offered by the Mega Drive development, releasing a number of exclusive triple A games that took full advantage of the Mega Drive hardware (see: Rocket Knight Adv, Contra Hard Corps and Castlevania Bloodlines). On the other hand, as SLX said, Capcom was half-assing or outsourcing things from the start, wanting to grab some extra cash from the Mega Drive fans with the least amount of effort involved on their part.
Nintendo never stopped publishers to release games on other hardware. They just wanted to keep exclusives the content that was made for their hardware, which isn't really scandalous since the hardware back then were very different between the different consoles. So we got deifferent games instead of ports. And it's still a pretty standard practice these days with Sony and the exclusivity policy of the PS4.
Indeed..Nintendo was a piece of shit back then. I loved supporting my Sega master system and Genesis back then and only started getting into Nintendo stuff mid 90s. I hope Nintendo burns in hell in years to come.
@@bitleman1 Nintendo ran a tight ship, they wouldn't let their own 3rd parties release games on their own schedule. Nintendo of America would only allow 3rd parties to release 5 games a year. Konami had create a sub label called Ultra games to circumvent this, Metal Gear, Skate or Die! and others were released under this label.
Nintendo were bitches and always introduced some crutch, for example cheaping out on the SNES CPU to the stupidly powerful (for 95/96/97) N64 using tiny, restrictive carts.
But Sega became too cocky and shot themselves in the foot. I loved my Mega drive however Sega started screwing over so many fans with massively overpriced and quickly terminated add ons.
The Saturn was the biggest piece of flawed hardware ever released and a classic example of how Sega's big headedness led them to destruction - had Sega taken the revised SGI board that became N64 and combined it with CD, Sega would've completely obliterated Sony in graphics and Nintendo would have never made it to 3D. Saturn would have been the undisputed console of its era. I have no doubt the sight of Daytona, Sega Rally on CD running on the SGI board would have been arcade quality and had Sony put down early.
That is the biggest mistake ever made in the history of the console industry.
@@bitleman1 So that's why there was no _Turtles In Time_ for the Sega Genesis. Just the _Hyperstone Heist._
That Mega Man X homebrew is incredible
Holy crap I can’t believe how good Mega Man X looked running on Genesis hardware!!!!!!
I don't think I could ever get enough of Sega Genesis videos. I still have my original but recently bought one with HDMI out and a 200 in 1cart. Having a blast.
btw I wish there was a UN Squadron port to the Genesis, Ive always felt it would have handled the slowdown well and handle 2 players.
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Better instruments in the music too, that game would have been awesome on Gen, alongside other Capcom arcade games.
@@retrosoul8770 What? The Snes was FAR superior when it came to sound and music
@@joed5150 No, that's a retro gaming myth. Here we have another person who grew up only playing/hearing crappy sounding American games on the Genesis, made with the terrible "gems" sound driver.
The Genesis/Megadrive was capable of excellent sound and music, the combination of FM synth and Psg sound created audio rich with bass, clear horns and guitars, often richer then many Snes counterparts despite the Snes trying to sound more "realistic", not always to the greatest effect. The Snes was absolutely more versatile with its samples esp for sound efx, but when it comes to raw clarity in sound, it was often a toss up and very competitive.
Japanese exclusive games usually represented what audio the Gen could really push out...Master of Monsters, Gauntlet IV, Devilish, Thunder Force 3&4, Shinobi, Streets of Rage, Sonic, and Shining Force series, Vapor Trail, Midnight Resistance, Monster World IV etc. Plenty of fantastic sounding games the Snes doesn't have an equal answer to, the same way the Genesis doesn't have an equal answer to Super Metroid or Chronos Triggers music.
So the "Snes music far superior" is a trolling myth that needs to die, they both had stellar, albeit different sounding great music from exclusive Japanese games that holds up well.
Check out "Savaged Regimes" TH-cam channel where he uploads remixes of Snes and Gen songs using original hardware like for Mega Man X, or his latest game for the Genesis "Xenocrisis" which released in 2019. Truly special stuff that destroys the 30yr old myth.
@Dean Satan almost like the muted colors on Genesis that make virtually every game look like it went through the washing machine. Crappy sound effects that often don't even match what's going onscreen. As far as slowdown is concerned, I've played plenty of Genesis games that chugged along. Controller with its buttons in a row, yeah there's a reason it wasn't copied anywhere else going forward.
Great video didn't know about the Mickey mouse sequel from the super Nintendo I think the reason Capcom didn't bother much with the genesis is because of the sales in Japan at least in the beginning
i remember the first time i saw the ryu animation (from the SF2 intro? probably) in the beginning of this episode while at a friends house bk then... boy i was blown away! couldnt believe the details colours and movement of this image. I remember speculating with friends how graphics would be in the future...look at us now sometimes i check modern games and part of me goes like nah this cant be..but it is!
For me the best capcom game on the mega drive is Strider, I didn't know it was made by sega, nice! Awesome video as always! Cheers fromBrazil =D
How about making an "Atlus and the Saturn" episode?
Already made it.
@@SegaLordX 😮😮😮😮😮
Awesome vid. I always wondered what the deal was between SEGA and Capcom.
Wow, so all my favorite Capcom games for Sega Genesis were actually Sega games licensed from Capcom.
All the games shown in this video are nothing short of very well made and are classics for sure. Great video!
Of all of these games (of which I own all but Mickey), Forgotten Worlds has to be my favorite. Sega programmed the hell out of that game, and it has that late '80s arcade magic on spades. That game is flat out awesome.
Chiki Chiki Boys I bought in 1999 at a store literally because of its ridiculous name on the spine. The label on my cart is torn to hell, so I had no idea what to expect from cover art... just that it was called Chiki Chiki Boys and it was $10. I went for it, and beat it that night. It's a killer little game that should get credit where it's due.
Honestly, quite a few of my Genesis purchases in the late '90s were based on having goofy titles. Trampoline Terror, Tyrants: Fight Through Time, Burning Force, Fire Shark, Shadow Blasters, and more... I have no regrets. If it's on Genesis and has a strange sounding title, it's probably a good time.
Good old days when Capcom was releasing finished games.
@MultiTarded Just had to throw in the random jab at LGBT people huh?
Capcom are at the top of their game right now
@MultiTarded Also Capcom's current representation of LGBT people is pretty terrible overall, their games are hardly shining beacons of progressiveness, and saying their old games had no LGBT characters isn't even true, what with Final Fight's Poison being transgender and Darkstalkers's Morrigan being bisexual (two somewhat problematic characters that I still really like), those are hardly obscure characters either, what a bafflingly ignorant comment on so many levels.
But I get it the presence of characters who don't fit into your unimaginative jacked up heterosexual douchebag power fantasies make you extremely uncomfortable, I've heard this story many times before.
And gamers wonder why they're considered childish losers.
Stfu they are rocking it right now. Just because SF5 is not as good as many wanted to be doesnt mean the rest of the games they have been releasing in the last years arent good. RE7, Monster Hunter World, Devil May Cry 5, Megaman 11, RE2 Remake and so on. Next time use your brain before writing something on the Internet
Brie Russell you fucking killed him dude
I actually really enjoyed SF II Special Champion Edition, at least when playing with a 6-button pad. Didn't sound as good as the SNES version but it was a very solid version of SF II on Genesis and that's all 10-year-old me really wanted at that time.
It's a very good version hardly that different to the Snes.
It definitely ran faster.
It's my favorite version of the 16-bit era ports. I wouldn't even say the SNES sounds better. Yes, the voices are better, but still have that awful SNES reverb effect. PC Engine has the best voices. But the SNES version is the only version that has some stage music that I'd rather not hear again. Ken's stage music on SNES sounds awful in my opinion.
I love playing SF on the Genesis, i play it on the Genesis mini, the graphics and sound isn't as good as the SNES but it's still fun! My fighters are Ryu and Ken, Ken has a better Dragon punch lol.
Musics are better on Genesis and voices are actually equally bad, they are *extremely* muffled on SNES and scratchy on Genesis.
Capcom and Sega Genesis it's the Perfect Combination.
MouritoGaia After actually watching the video its more like Capcom and Super Nintendo are the perfect combination.
Capcom & Sega is good but Capcom & Snes is better. More games on snes from Capcom like Breath of Fire 1,2, Demon’s Crest, Final Fight 1,2,3, Goof Troop, King of Dragons, Knights of the round, Magic Sword, Megaman X 1,2,3, Street Alpha 2, Super Ghouls’n Ghost.
Not even close.
@Darell Hunter 100%
Great job!! That last statement, 100% true! BTW SSFII on the Genesis still remains one of my favorites.
Very neat video, thanks for the nostalgia!
I used to have long arguments with my cousins back in the day over the quality of Capcom ports on the MD (Street Fighter specifically).
They had a SNES and they usually flaunted that the Mega Drive was no rival of it, which used to drive me mad (yes, I was a very passionate Sega person then).
Too bad the improvement patches weren't at thing at that point in time, or the sound quality issue would have been negligible (still, the Super Street Fighter port for the MD is still superior overall IMO; the SNES one is housed in a cartridge with less ROM, doesn't play as smooth and is even missing some narration samples, if memory serves).
You remember correctly. One of the weirdest omissions from Super Street Fighter 2 on SNES is the voice saying "fight". It really throws me off. I remember the arguments in those days. In reality, when it came to Street Fighter 2(Champion/Turbo), the Genesis, SNES, and even PC Engine all had things going for them in each respective version and which was best would come down to what people valued the most. The Genesis version lacks the most in terms of first impression, colors and voices, but I think it plays the best, has the best music overall, and actually has more background graphics.
Capcom was legit on the Genesis at the time they were a staple in the arcade. I wonder what would have happened if they did games for the master system and how much of a difference it would have made against Nintendo.
It would have made a huge difference, if you compare games that came out for both the NES and SMS, the SMS version is typically equal or slightly better even if only visually.
The SMS usually gets dinged because of its high pitched audio.
The SMS only got Capcom games on it when the Genesis showed up and those hold up pretty well.
Not much since the Master System was trash compared to the NES
Another late night vid. It's perfect cuz I can't sleep 🤣
P.S. Strider was my favorite. Still can't believe my parents spent 70 dollars on that game when it came out. I still have it to this day.
Thank you for showing and kicking Claw's ass in its entirety. At 3:00
:)). Yes!!!
When you played strider for the first time you almost couldn’t believe it
Blew my mind
yes that and ghouls and ghosts
nohomers100 absolutely. Kids these days cant understand how badass genesis was in its first few years, the leap in gaming was incredible.
@@capcomfan82 Growing up in the 80s/90s, we saw some major technological leaps, and if you grew up in the 70s, even more so. Going from NO such thing as graphics, to blocks and lights, to photorealistic almost 1:1 graphics now, unbelievable. In 30-40 years we've come a looooong way. People take it for granted, and it's sad.
Oblivionyx back then u just wanted your system to have a decent arcade port
I didn't realise Slammasters had such an amazing soundtrack.
Maybe it's me, but original mode in mercs reminds me of when capcom would flesh out the mecanics of their arcade games for the nes ports (the original commando, to which mercs is a sequel, being an example of this practice)
So much Sega Lord X content lately. Love it
Had all these and loved them so... i was sad we didn't get 3 wonders - but it made a perfect port to saturn anyway...
Great video as always Sega Lord X
I never knew that Capcom Japan had outsourced the development of all those amazing Capcom games on Genesis! This channel is a treasure
Really? The history and coverage of the development for SF and Capcom games has been covered quite a bit ny many TH-cam channels, DF retro for one.
SFII:SCE was actually the very first Street Fighter I ever played, and thus I have a lot of nostalgic attachment for it. It's also the reason I MUST have all 6 buttons up front for a Capcom fighter.
As a life long sega fan, I appreciate your channel. I gave up on sega when they gave up on their customers when they got out of the hardware business. Nonetheless, the memories still live on.
This video taught me a lot about Sega's relationship with Capcom, and all of it was interesting. Thanks, Sega Lord X! :)
Strider really was awesome when it first came out, I played the crap out it along with Ghouls N Ghosts. Great video!!
The color and sound hacks for Special Champion Edition make a big difference in quality; that is the definitive way to play the Genesis version now, IMO.
I'd love to see someone do similar for Strider and Ghouls n Ghost on the Genesis. Without those cartridge memory limitations of the day (even though the originals are fine on their own) I think the SuperGrafx version could be surpassed.
Maybe some 2-player Mercs? All kinds of things are possible now!
Snes has ssf2 reload hack, adds more speed options , really cool to
Great video, as always ^^
Thanks Sega Lord X !
I always think it's possible to make Street fighter IV happen on PS2 since there were lower quality version on mobile devices.
Who knows, SF IV uses a similar art style to SF X Tekken. That game came out on the Vita.
Great vid SLX. Always happy to hear my Genesis Batman at the end : D
My 2 favorite gaming girlfriends. Capcom and Sega. I also grew up in the 80s and 90s and i still support Sega and Capcom til this day.
Capcom loves their crossover fighting games, I'm still hoping for a Sega vs. Capcom someday.
I mean Archie did that Sonic/Mega Man crossover comic a few years back so it's not impossible right?
If you have Street Fighter for your Genesis/Mega Drive, then I recommend getting the Genesis/Mega Drive 6-button arcade stick.
Basically the best Capcom games were done by Sega themselves and most of Capcom's support was really just an afterthought to get a few bucks after the Super Nintendo/Famicom support.
I loved The Great Circus Mystery on the Genesis. Hoping one day we'll get a Capcom Disney collection on the Switch with all those old 16 bit Magical Quest with Mickey Mouse platformers from the SNES/Genesis.
Capcom takes the Genesis color palette to the limit!
Kudos for that!
Capcom made so great games!
Toaplan is on Japanese arcade developer that definitely supported the Mega Drive
Sega Genesis and Capcom for the win!
God damn..... These street fighter sound mods was all I ever wanted back then...
Konami was King on the Genesis.
Except for sunset riders
Konami did a bad job on the genesis port the snes port was way better
vic viper the genesis version is still fun to play imo
@@lldjslim Contra Hard Corps and Castlevania Bloodlines were great.
Snatcher CD
@@matthewkeys4503 Sloppy seconds
Great videos and channel you got here bruh, Capcom is a personal favorite of mine, but it seemed like they never really warmed up to the blast processor back in the day lol
I had no idea that Capcom licensed SEGA for porting games!!
Chiki Chiki boys is my favorite game on the system. Nice.
Capcom & Konami were the two best third parties during the 8-bit and 16-bit days.
That Guide stage music in Super sounds ridiculous. Glad I had that on SNES.
The Genesis hardware comes off as a downscaled version of the CPS-1 hardware that a lot of Capcom's golden era games were developed on. Particularly the sound is very similar to the CPS but with way less memory for digital samples... the music in genesis capcom ports though always sounds very close to the arcade edition (particularly ghouls'n'ghosts, strider and SF2), and the stock digital drum "set" on the genesis HW seems to be the same as the CPS-1, even on non-capcom ports (minus the crash cymbal patch, genesis music almost never featured crash cymbals prob because the sample rate was too low and it would sound like a hot mess). Has anyone else ever noticed that the SNES editions of street fighter 2/SF2 Turbo didn't use the same SFX and voice samples as the arcade? They were re-recorded "soundalike" samples (seriously go compare all the SNES voices to the arcade, its all completely different).
Nihon Falcom games for Mega Drive also had soundtracks nearly identical to PC 8801 originals.
It is a myth that Genesis sound chip was bad,in the right hands it produces excellent music.
@Jackie Brison Yes I forgot about those!
Well, it's because the Genesis uses an FM synth sound chip 'similar' to the one in the CPS-1 but it has also a proper PCM sound chip too, that's the big difference. The majority of the arcades from that time used FM sound chips so that's the reason it sounds so similar
Love your intro bro 👍🏾
Street Fighter II = My first apartment fun.
the PC engine port of STFII was also really smooth, it played really well and the super controller for it was really well made if a little simple looking.
Wait what ? this is Rockman on an actual Genesis / Megadrive ? :0 BOY...
The floor perspective always impresses me in sf2
oh my god...1080p60 is gorgeous. Keep up the good work.
I was thinking: "Dudeeee where's my STrider game, the first game I beat on the Genesis, hahaha". Awesome video as always. I'm such a fan for your channel. Thanks a lot man, much love for SEGA and CAPCOM games over the years. Be well, be safe!
15:16 I played and completed this game as a kid, and it's really fun. Especially with a friend.
As a kid, I was able to kinda convince myself that Journey from Darkness: Strider Returns was actually a decent game after I asked my grandma to get it for me, more due to it being a gift from her than for the game itself and I still have that sucker CiB...thanks again Nana, I really miss you.
I would tend to agree that Capcom held back their best efforts until Sega Saturn. I wonder if the lack of popularity of the mega drive in Japan was a factor. I always felt like Nintendo was secretly giving Capcom money to hold back a little for their Sega efforts.
I still have my Sega Genesis and whole copies of STREET FIGHTER 2 Special Championship Edition, Street Fighter 2 New Challangers Edition.
Capcom absolutely rocked the Genesis, as well as later systems :) Love it!
I'm glad this is a perspective into the genesis platform and a major developer, major for arcade games. And I think there's massive genius that the "thinkers" of sega at the time were making arcade ports... why? Because thats what people who bought home consoles wanted = as close as possible to arcade. What I don't understand was why some/most of these ports used way less memory than possible winding them up halfass? I'm also saying this as a regular viewr who's now educated thanks to you, X, thinking about Sega ports themselves. Shinobi. Golden axe. Etc. I think there was even a virtua fighter port and virtua racing CRAMMMED into a cart. Why not make the arcade ports use full potential and allow them to sing?? Why did fan made hacks need to improve these games and not Sega??
Welcome to the "I love Sega but why the hell do they keep doing stupid things" club. Its amazing that they were even able to make hardware as long as they did with all the incredibly stupid decisions Sega had a history of making. I'm a big fan of Sega hardware, but all too often the topic of lost potential and missed opportunities comes up just as much if not more than the things that actually got executed.
@@visionop8 I think that you are unfair with Sega. It'seasy to say that with the hindsight of the past. If they had only made stupid decisions they would never been leader in the arcade and never have rivalised with Nintendo. They made technological bets which were unsuccessful and unfortunately no companies are immune to this.
Part of it was the business and sales aspects. It was more cost effective to keep cart sizes down. It would have been nice if they could have used more memory for many games, but there was always the cost consideration. Super Turrican on the SNES actually had content cut from the game because the publisher probably didn't see it being profitable going with the larger ROM. The game was later restored and released with Analogue's aftermarket SNES system. Another example is Mad Stalker which was almost finished for the Mega Drive, but was cancelled because 16-megabit ROM was considered to be too expensive to be profitable in that case.
@@ravagingwolverine help me understand this: Why was it more cost effective ? What makes it more cost effective? Pitting less chip and ram into the cartridge? Or putting less development time porting the game in more glory? What makes it add up?
Doesn't it make more sense to make kickass games, thst everyone will sell well, that albeit may cost more to make but will bring in the sales? We're talking about undercutting the time and resources of making a 16 bit console also, and other waste for not selling its potential.... right?
@@avivmizrachi4382 Remember that there are aspects to the business of selling games that we just don't know. Back in the '80s and '90s, memory prices were high and they would fluctuate, meaning they might go back up or down. There were ROM chip shortages at some points. The whole point of home consoles, as opposed to arcades, was for games to be made using as little ROM as possible, because, again, memory was expensive. It was not practical to make games of unlimited size or the same as arcade games. Strider was an early eight-megabit game and it was more expensive than other games of its time. The same happened when 16, 24, and 32 megabit games were new. Limiting the size of games due to memory prices was just the nature of game development at the time. And remember, bigger ROMs and more development time was not a guarantee of sales. Sometimes, good games wouldn't sell, or bad games would. There are many factors.
Another great review.Keep up the great work and keep them coming.
While love them both, I actually play the Genesis version of Mercs more often the arcade version. Sega's added original mode, with its alternating upgradable characters & hidden items, provides a touch of depth that just makes it more enjoyable for me to run through than the standard arcade. But, as you said, you still need the arcade game for that sweet multiplayer action.
I can’t believe that mm x port on the end of your video. Wow!
Another great show .Keep up the great work
Chiki Chiki Boys is such a hidden gem. Rare game, beautiful box art... Great music and visuals. Awesome collectible game. Always felt like it should be in the $200 club for CIB.
I love Saturday Night Slammaster and the rest of the titles i that series. I would love to see the re-released in some form.
Sega were my heroes while I was in HS. They made my favorites when Nintendo bought Capcom out. I remember waiting with baited breath until I opened Strider for Christmas, and was not unhappy in the slightest.
Nintendo didn't buy Capcom out, they just had some shady dealings with their third party companies about making games for other consoles, at least in the US.
Glad to see your channel grow over the years bro. Awesome and entertaining stuff!
I mean look at how prolific Capcom became related to development on the SNES with Street Fighter Alpha 2. I mean that game was a straight up marvel for the console it was released on, regardless of extra chips in the cartridges. Even that is another showing of how during that 4th gen that they wanted to show Nintendo how committed they were to making their SNES look like an absolute men among boys. I truly feel to this day, lregardless of the short load times that SFA2 is the shining star of the SNES library. And I mean hell, Capcom HAD to have known going into development and then especially as release was about to roll out that the game was going to take a relatively significant financial loss. Between having to add expensive, newly developed chips to get the game running, to even giving the game a pretty small print run. That game was a love letter to Nintendo from Capcom as a thank you for the decade of profit their consoles provided them. It all just perfectly fits into place.
All these videos made me glad I had the Genesis as a tween. Very interesting facts about the early Capcom licensed games! Never understood those arrangements when the title screen would roll on some of those games.
I remember seeing the screenshots of SFII Champion Edition before the Capcom rework (maybe in Sega Visions?), how small the characters were going to be, and a lackluster background art. I was pretty satisfied when I got copy of Special Champion edition!
Man Sega was the the man behind nintendo but still did a heck of a job Sony came soon after
The best part about the 90s developers could license each other stuff to make for themselves I.e. arcade ports but still fun non the less
Favorite game on Genesis was Super Street Fighter II The New Challengers
Back then coming for nes these ports where just like the arcade too us..Certainly good enough to practice at home for the arcade.👍
The music for that mega man x hack sounds solid!
True I don't know what Capcom was thinking not wanting to get on the GEN/MD full force since I think both fan bases had a lot of crossover. While they could have done better with their own internal porting even the third party work wasn't that bad, if that's them being half-assed imagine what the whole ass would have been like. ^_^
Wow that Mega Man X home brew is impressive
@17:44 Is it just me, or does that explosions and action from the mega blaster, in that fan port, feel a lot more satisfying?
Chiki Chiki Boys looks like it's really damn good. I'll have to give it a go at some point, it definitely stuck out to me as the most unique of the games here.
Street Fighter II on Sega is the best way to play. It matters where six buttons are placed
Great video. Never seen that Punisher game before.
I remember reading about Capcom finally developing for Sega in 1993 and losing my damn mind. And it was really worth the wait; SF2:SCE is the best-playing 16-bit Street Fighter game, IMO. The speech samples were a bummer, but as I only had a Genesis back then, I was happy with what I had. To this day, SCE is my favorite SF2 game (and I have the SF2 versions, an Arcade1Up, SF2 Anthology on Saturn, Hyper SF2 on Switch, and the 30th Anniversary collection on Xbox One).