The BRUTAL Truth About The TGL Golf League!
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- The BRUTAL Truth About The TGL Golf League! The New TGL Golf League: A Bold Step Forward... or a Swing and a Miss?** ⛳️ In this video, we take a deep dive into the highly anticipated TGL Golf League, co-created by golfing legends Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. With the promise of a revolutionary new format combining high-tech innovation, team play, and primetime entertainment, the TGL aims to bring golf into the 21st century. But is this bold new vision the game-changer it’s cracked up to be, or does it feel like a swing that just doesn’t connect? From the futuristic tech and fast-paced structure to the team-oriented play, we’ll give you an honest, unfiltered look at what works-and what could fall flat. Is the TGL the future of golf, or a gimmick that will soon be forgotten? Watch the video to find out what we really think! #TGLGolf #RoryMcIlroy #TigerWoods #GolfRevolution #GolfLeague #GolfNews #NewGolf #GolfInnovation #SportsReview #TGL2025
I enjoyed it. It was nice to watch the players in a not-so-formal setting and having fun. The bonus is that we will get to watch Tiger play golf more and I’m not sure who would complain about that.
No interest in Tiger he hogged all the cameras for 20 years even when he was on the cut!
TGL is about as exciting as watching PGA stars playing mini golf
I enjoy screen golf. I am in south Korea and there are screen golf places EVERYWHERE. It is fun to be able to get 18 holes in at anytime of the day or night (there is a 24 Hour Golf Zon Park near me and another one that closes at 3am). It is also nice that I can finish 18 holes in an hour or 2. I love having the stats on the screen and the ability to see a replay of my shots. I am surprised that they weren't showing the stats during the TGL. Maybe they will change that.
Sorry no interest whatsoever 😢
Why?
It's just a new game at the casino. I like playing on my TV.
@@Boags It's fake golf, it's a simulator. You play Pebble on a sim then try it in real life and do you think you will score the same?
I play in a association of players who are all over 60 years of age. We are in the upper Midwest and play outdoors from April they October. We now play at a X Golf facility throughout the winter months every Monday. It’s a great excuse to get out of the house when it’s around zero Fahrenheit and the ground has a foot of snow covering it.
Simulators are great for practice especially for those that live in the cold winter areas , but watching golf on a simulator hard to accept?
"To round up my BRUTAL opinion of TGL....I think I liked it!"
Does it look fun to do with the boys? Yes. Is it a television event or something I’d pay to go watch? No. Sim golf is great for practice and teaching and cold winters. But the game is meant to be played on green grass outdoors. For those of us who insist on walking, it is great excercise and the best way to spend 4 hours outside. Good stuff James !
They aren’t playing real courses because of the green. You can’t play 17 at Sawgrass with the TGL green. They designed every TGL hole with the same green (the one they have in the stadium). They just turn it and make the undulations different. They didn’t want to disrespect any of the great courses by playing them, but substituting their green.
Perfect answer
The green moves and articulates. There’s 189 activators and plates underneath that move and change the green to the same slopes as the real courses
Charlotte, I understand the green moves on actuators. In fact, I alluded to that in my comment. What I am saying is that TGL has only 1 green, so they can’t play real courses because real courses have 18 greens of different shapes and sizes that TGL can’t replicate with 1 green. In my example of 17 at Sawgrass, TGL can’t replicate that on their green because the TGL green is a different shape and size than Sawgrass and they don’t want to substitute their own (TGL) green to play 17 at Sawgrass and disrespect TPC Sawgrass by doing so.
Agreed and I couldn’t be happier that they did that! It would have be stupid to play ‘real’ courses that are on the pga tour. What would be the point. Make it crazy. Make it fun
@JamesRobinsonGolf if they did real courses, then they couldn’t have the real green and chipping area. By building that arena, they have unlimited holes they can build around it.
The fact that the fairway ‘bunker’ box has a remote lip is an epic touch! The attention to detail is great
A lot of the liv golf guys have said one of the reasons they went to live was that they don’t have to play as much as pgl.
We watched the replay on Sky Sports Golf last night - 9pm our time, 7pm UK, and thoroughly enjoyed it, even the other end of the sofa enjoyed it. It’s the first round of the first year so they can only learn and improve. The technology was amazing and did show player ball speeds James mentioned. I couldn’t see the point in the referee though, didn’t seem to have any impact on anything that happened.
I sent the corp. of a bowling establishment near, a message about starting a sim league. They were not interested. They do have a banquet hall that doesn’t get used much, that would be perfect.
I think it was a good start we have to let it play out and see where it goes. As far as people playing simulator golf the places you can go are pretty pricey. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong but golf seems to have a way of always pricing people out.
Around here you pretty much have to enjoy screen golf because the courses are closed half the year
It was awesome!
"Could this be the future?" This sounds like you're thinking that this might be a replacement for current golf entertainments. It's an interesting addition, and promotes golf - with or without simulators. I believe that golf simulators have a future far more significant today than the case 2 years ago. The technology has improved by leaps and bounds - as shown by your simulator at Wooley Park. So for me TGL is another option rather than a replacement.
I'm using a SkyTrak launch monitor with Creative 3D software that offers my local course, Moliets, as one of many courses. All this setup in my back garden. However, a massive step forward for me would be the simulator you have at Wooley Park. With that device in a large shed at the bottom of the garden I might seriously think about abandoning my membership at Moliets GC. But the bang for the buck is still playing golf on a real course with friends and a lively chat after the round. We're living in interesting times of change.
The holes are all custom designed to incorporate the green in the stadium. They obviously cannot recreate existing courses because all of those greens would be different.
I think its great! Look forward to watching more
Brutal truth? James, please stop with these video titles it's getting old, dude. I don't wanna unsub, I'm trying to support you, but it's the same stuff every other day. Dude, it's cringe.
Stick to your job and I’ll stick to mine mate 👍🏼⛳️
I liked it. In some countries in the northern hemisphere it's really hard to get out and play golf for parts of the year so some kind of indoor golf is very attractive and maybe something for amateurs will develop from this.. With TGL specifically, I liked the interaction of the players, the pace was good and as a spectator event everything is happening right in front of you. I hope it does well.
Time to stop "The Brutal" & all the other "shocking" thumbnail nonsense on your thumbnails. We don't subscribe for the dumb thumbnails, but for the content. Makes you look simple.
Hi Shane… a man who thinks he can speak for everyone else is a very very unfortunate trait to have. Whilst I appreciate your time commenting, do you not think after 1000+ videos I’ve maybe worked out what works for me as a business? Unless you maybe run a channel yourself full time? In which case I’m all ears and would love to hear more and learn. Thanks again for your time bud 👍🏼
I assume you could set up two of these at the same time, say one in the US and one in Japan and have the teams compete.
Imagine!
Two man scramble teams at random real golf courses of all types would be much more interesting.
Lets see them play executive and public courses like most of us do.
Disagree, we watch them play on real courses all the time. Why not have some fun with it.
Best thing playing Bay Hill was the starter and the tannoy
Ive seen a good bit of discourse about why the TGL doesn't play real holes, and honestly I'm fine with it, cause we can see these golf pros actually play the real holes outside, I don't think we need to see them play it on a simulator, just with a different green shape. I'd rather them do what they are doing and just go crazy with hole designs that absolutely can't work in real life. Also the idea of the spear isn't to look like a real hole, it's made to be a test of driver distance and accuracy. But they really could make it look a lot better than they did for sure lol.
I enjoyed it a lot, got to see a little personality from the golfers but I feel they could improve it the following ways:
Talk more about the shots, yardage? Club? Proper golf Comms would help
Fan interaction: during the interval have some fans try and island green or longest drive
No more DJ Khaled, ever.
I watched every shot from every player on tgl YT channel and from both teams it was about 30 minutes. Now im sure there was a lot more to watch but from that, not to impressed. The undulating greens were cool, they should have that for the fairway as well, instead of just flat. Hard to see where the ball was hit until it hit the screen, no shot tracer. I understand that its not the total show but, it just didn't seem to engrossing. The price to go to an event is ridiculous, $197.00 US. Cheers and thanks for your thoughts!
I live in Florida, and it seems as though all the tickets are sold out. My wife said it makes her want to play golf. So maybe Ill finally get some use out of those clubs I bought her years ago.
Only having 1 arena with a 1000 person seating capacity is going to hurt the leagues chances unless they start popping these arenas up everywhere very quickly, whilst making them bigger
I love the concept.
I didn't watch it but I read that ESPN had a broadcast audience of 919K, and the Duke basketball game had only 750K.
It's new and that will fall off.
I watched some highlights this morning and I have to say I enjoyed it, when you’re in Florida next week and you go back to the PGA Superstore just next door is Edwin Watts and it’s always worth a look in there
Concept is good needs better explaining what the toy spanner means, so a little hard to follow.
I would like to see rising stars included such as college champs.
It would be awesome if they had some kind of raffle or system to have pro-am events as well. Meet and greets and the like.
I thought it lacked something, but has potential. I think it would have helped to had either Tiger or Rory in this first match-up. I can't predict which way will go, could either become something people get into OR flop hard. Early days though
all of us golf nerds are bullshitting as if we don’t play our simulators 24/7. this is sooo fun to watch because it’s like what we do at home except the pros are so much better at it
Personally, I enjoyed TGL. It’s not there to replace the PGA Tour. It’s something different and fun. A short season, only 1 game a week. Just need the players to get a little more invested. Which I think they will. In the first game it just looked like 6 mates having fun
They should have a u shape screen that wraps around. Trees etc on the side
I enjoyed it. The most interesting part of it to me WAS the crazy pretend holes they were playing. Why use traditional holes in a totally untraditional paradigm?
TGL didnt do it for me, i use SIms, enjoy them, but it didnt work as a broadcast medium. The players didnt look comfortable, very US centric and a typical comcast broadcast. LIV is a truly global league, which is refreshing, TGL seems to have been invented to keep Tiger relevant. Time will tell whether it works financially, i wont be a contributor
I believe Tiger and Rory actually own this league.
They do have the club data after they hit they just didn’t show it every often
I’ve only seen ball speed nothing else
@@JamesRobinsonGolfthey showed club head speed, ball speed, spin, carry etc. Sometimes at the bottom of the coverage but always on the big TV screens next to the screen
I think TGL has the potential to gain a following. However, the only way it will take off is, if you get the every day golfer in the league stadiums. If you don’t generate interest from the “weekend warriors” there won’t be enough excitement from a fan base.
All I can say not on my must watch list
I think it definitely has potential
I think TGLs team system is a bit too basic though imo ..
Like I know when LIV launched a few people didn’t really get behind the team aspect of it because the teams felt a bit random at the start but I think now the teams in LIV are handled well because it’s a team name & logo selected by that captain & it adds personality through that team/team captain ..
Where I can’t really see anyone truly getting behind these very generic team brands in TGL..
I think the TGL would of been better off going almost down the same route & letting say Rory have his team say idk The Clovers & have it be Rory Shane & then perhaps say Tommy fleetwood
Like I think the captain system is actually more fun to get behind then just some generic name likr the Boston common GC?
Like who even came up with these names honestly LOL
I think because this is connected to Tiger Woods I doubt you’ll know James but Tiger Woods is now also an official partner with 2K sports the gaming company & that golf game actually has a golf course creator feature built into the game & has a very large community across all gaming platforms where people play in weekly & daily tournaments in the in game societies which is basically like having your own golf club & people join these to then play these tournaments on courses created by the community ..
& with that feature in the game it is very possible we could see holes from that video game imported into TGL because there are many extremely talented people who create their own fantasy courses but also recreate thousands of real life courses to incredible accuracy..
So if that was to happen that could gain a lot of traction from people who enjoy golf but maybe only play via video games ..
As for the timing in the UK it definitely needs to find a more suitable time slot where it can grab a bigger audience ..
And again LIV sorta has the right idea I know they travel globally but for the most part most of their events are on at a time where even a UK viewer can watch a few rounds & still sleep ..
As for it being in one place that’s definitely going to hold it back in some aspects I think but if the teams are more stand out-ish & the whole vibe of TGL is a more fun/relaxed environment & we see some of these pros opening up having a bit of a laugh ect then people will get behind it and behind a team eventually ..
But I think if it continues to grow I’d hope they would find a way to take this thing on the road or idk potentially build arenas world wide that can facilitate TGL while still catering to other services while it’s out of use …
I think it has promise but i really think if there selling point is to get people behind these teams it needs to connect with an audience outside the US & these teams need to almost become brands like LIV with the crushers & fireballs Range goats ect like some might not like LIV but the team names are certainly stand out ish & memorable
I just don’t know if bay hill & Boston common & I literally can’t remember any of the others already like there all very forgettable.. it need something that’s gonna stand out and make people think OHH that’s Tigers teams merch or Rory’s ect ..
But I think the arena atmosphere on a travelling show with EU fans or Aussies would be really fun & crazy xD
Could definitely see the crowd getting into it and the tech behind it all & how it looks & plays they smashed it out the park
& I think the formats of golf played & rule sets are decent/fun
I found it entertaining but i'm not sure about the long term sustainability of it
It was fine, I watched it the next day on Hulu, do they really need an intermission? Too much wasted time, could probably be an 1-1.5 hours even with commercials. LIV golf alrady has their own exhibition golf, they don't need a second version of exhibition golf that isn't competitive. They did show some of the players numbers off the tee, club head and ball speed etc., but for some reason didn't show all the players swing information
Those pros play all best holes in golf at the best golf course's in the world. So create holes that are designed to be different than the norm. I liked it and I think it'll get more people involved with our great game.
3am Wednesday morning here so I'm not watching live, no replays available, so i could only watch yt highlights. Only 3 of 4 players on the team play, dumb. Alternate shot threesomes dumb, strokeplay each player only plays two holes dumb, therefore each player hits less than 20 shots including putts dumb, no Tiger v Rory first match dumb. People complain about LIV music and yet they played music. There were numerous empty seats even though tickets were 160 dollars. The arena was amazing and the shot clock was good I'll give them that, but to me they missed by a long way. I also read in the USA they were bombarded with commercials. Fortunately they can change the format. Definitely not waking up at 3am to watch
I was very curious to see but it did not keep my interest for very long. I really wanted to like it but not so much. The technology and the facility is absolutely amazing and I would love to try it myself!
LIV have cornered the descriptive team names, so not much else to choose from apart from US placenames
What I thought was funny is they still had a caddie
Overall I enjoyed it. A nice 2ish out watch, players having a fun time. Already way more interested in it than Liv because it's actually doing something different instead of being PGA-lite with some random team names.
Do have a couple things I'd like to see changed or added but with something new everyone does.
Watching golf pros play screen golf seems unproductive.
My idea would be that amatuers would be picked from the local community, arranged by hcp with an A,B,C, and a D player. The pro representing the TEAM CITY pulls applicant names from a barrel, and they play the game instead, against other cities.
This would get more attention from the masses I believe.
They have to make their own course’s because no way to simulate other known courses around the greens
Personally wasnt great viewing !! But id imagine if your their with atmosphere would be amazing
Imagine being at wembley after the open !! Would it happen
104 watches and only 6 likes??? Go figure
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What a brutal 6 mins of my life lol
His bloody accent
Future of golf is picking a random golf course in BF Egypt a few days prior.. the caddies get busy doing their homework #hotroute
Indoor golf is not proper golf as the weather plays such an impact on the real world
The biggest bother to me were the always flat lies, which golfzon has a fix for.
Just another way to make money (hopefully) out of golf. I'm a traditionalist. I don't want to play sim golf. I don't want to play 6 hole speed golf. I want to play this wonderful game as it should be played, out in the fresh air appreciating the natural wildlife and the scenery. No flu germs or obnoxious drunks shouting and bawling to upset my round. Some people will no doubt enjoy it but a hell of a lot won't, and that's ok, each to their own!
I have a home simulator I love it use it everyday but don’t care to watch others doing it on tv. PGA needs to work on the product it puts out there not gimmicks.
Nope, 👎
The only reason I knew about TGL was because of reports on it. Tried watching some but ....not for me.
This is just the tip of the iceberg, after it takes off and becomes huge they will have arenas all over the world. (Maybe) who knows how big it could get.
Why on earth should they play courses they already play during the season? Have some fun with it.
I know someone will take my idea but this will cause grown men to buy a normal setup and start competing via Bluetooth/internet like my boys did playing their military style games
I think the biggest problem for me is the fact that they played a made up course and that’s probably because I’m in my 60’s and not into that kind of thing, and I think if they were to play real golf courses they could show case courses that the tour doesn’t play and if they are too short could easily lengthen them and still have it be more realistic but I’m not the audience that they are going for, they are looking for the 16-30 crowd so they probably enjoy it
thought it was interesting - do think it'll get people into golf and facility is amazing
think the hammer thing would work better if each team had 2 or 3 hammers instead of passing one back and forward
think its going to rely on the personalities of the players and how much they put into it and could imagine it could become a nuisance for them with extra travel etc.
Found it to be more of an exhibition event - dont care about the teams and dont think i ever would
living in ireland i won't be watching it cause I'm not staying up until 2am on tuesday night
Gave it a try but thought it was dull. Firstly, PGA tour golfers aren’t exactly brimming with charisma, they need Bryson type personalities, just watch the ‘walk on’, it set the tone. The arena concept won’t work with 1500 spectators in a cavernous space, needs more people almost on top of the action, possibly get some English football fans in there to give them some ideas. They’ve missed the chance to mix the teams, get female golfers involved, get some youth golfers involved, you ain’t growing the game churning out the same group of PGA millionaires who are always grouped together every week in tour. The format also doesn’t build any big crowd moments, maybe a couple of long outs and Fitzys spinning wedge were the highlights in 2 hours of action, golf is too hard to produce constant amazing shots. Will I watch again? Probably to give it a fair chance, but on first impressions it did nothing for me. Love the content James 👍
Why would you want to see TGL players compete on courses that exist in real life? That's ridiculous and BORING... They need to make courses that can only exist in cyberspace.. you do realize why right? In case you don't... Which is very likely... I'll explain. Why would you watch these teams play courses that already exist, when it would be BETTER to see them compete on those same courses in REAL LIFE on the ACTUAL COURSE? What will make this league better than it already is.. allowing amature teams compete against the pros... Using a handicap system... FOR REAL MONEY.
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I turned it off after 2 mins because it’s boring. There are no elements or pressure. I’d perhaps be more interested if the pressure stakes were set up as all the win proceedings go to the winning team’s chosen charities (so long as it’s not their own). To fix the entertainment - have alternate shot with players playing with fans on each hole. Would be much better to see them have to dig out of holes made by non-golfers or average golfers.
its not going to bring any new players to the game, its just going to make already rich golfers richer.....
I disagree. I’ve seen what indoor golf can do for places with terrible weather conditions and lack of golf courses.
There is that, I'm just lucky to be in Scotland and have plenty courses within an hour
Lucky man! Best courses in the world
Very much so...
The reason they don't play actual courses, is because they cannot match the greens. So the designed courses that use the greens like they are.
I watched some of it but got board fast
I don’t think it’s the future but it is definitely another string in golf’s bow. I can see it being great for exhibitions and clinics.
What are you on about??? They had all the numbers on screen every shot
They had ball speed… nothing else
This was not enjoyable to me. Too "clowned" up. No real excitement or challenges to me. They are getting paid no matter what the outcome. Ho Hum.
Did you notice they didn't replace or fill their divots! LOL
Golfers reduced to circus acts by greed and investment funds Sad to see. Not sports, entertainment . DJ Khaleed omg....cringe. Like to play an hour on that outfit though.
It would be a good format for pro-ams.
I was interested from the novelty standpoint, and maybe in this age of video games and simulated reality there's a place for TGL But so much of what makes golf fascinating lies in the variables, the weather, the wind, tall grass, difficult lies, etc. The drama! The heartbreak! I found myself getting bored rather quickly with TGL.
So the set looks cool but 160 bucs a ticket. Seriously? These already super Rich players get more millions for winning a Sim league.
Is it free?
I thought it was kind of boring. I also don't get all the emphasis on "trash talk". Golfers typically are respectful to one another during competition. It all seems like fabricated hype. I also think the city names are ridiculous. The cities have co connection, fan base, tax exemptions, stadiums, or anything connecting them to a team. They should have just named them like LIV teams.
TGL and Simulator Golf may HAVE to be the future in the USA. Trump is back in the Office soon and with his views on Border Security and " Illegals" the Clubs might have problems due to the big drop in the Course and Green maintenance workforce!
I rather play than watch. I play every week including wiinter. Fell asleep watching. Age has nothing to do it. It's like watching someone playing video games. Different yes, would I watch again no. People will say you won't be missed, yes but this is my opinion.
I tried to watch the highlights but got bored. It looks like it would be fun to play, but watching someone else, even Tiger, is a no go. It really seemed like they were forcing the enthusiasm with the audience, which I heard were paid seat fillers. But the golf manufacturers and media will get behind it and it will probably flourish for a year or two, but with no audience will probably die.
So the 'brutal' truth is what, that you liked it? Hard to figure it out while you rambled on while hitting shots. Could have been a 30 second short, instead it was 12mins of randomness. ;)
I’m sure there will be folks that will like this sort of thing, but for me, golf is an outdoor thing. On this deal here, you may as well be watching someone playing Tiger Woods on the PlayStation. I’m sorry, but it’s of no interest for me.
Computer says no
Pass
time for a new title tag line my friend. "The Brutle Truth" is getting tiresome ....
Hate it. Not golf. No interest. Big bucks for the players. A show for beer swilling frat boys. Very disappointed in Rory.
Just tried watching it but disappointed and think it’s a flop
Make believe golf LOL
I thought it was pretty cool for about 30 minutes.. then got boring and wasn’t competitive. Just looked like dudes playing and conceding every putt and wanting it to be over.
Not at all interested in a bunch of overpaid whiny professionals hitting balls into a screen.
Sorry also found it boring. Are the players bored or just enjoying a day out at the fairground. They are not in the real world. Did not enjoy it
Interesting, they where anti LIV then do this. Looks boring to watch. 🤷♀️