2011 Leuven Open Backgammon: final

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  • Paulus van Rooijen, the Dutch champion, reached the final because he won all five previous rounds (swiss system). Michel Lamote, number one on the Belgian rating list, fought his way here via a play-off against Luc Palmans.
    This match is to 5 points. The time control is bronstein system with 12 minutes in the bank and 12 seconds per move. Paulus is on the left and Michel on the right.
    The tournament took place in the University Pool & Snooker, Naamsesteenweg 253 Heverlee(Leuven) in Belgium.
    Thanks to the tournament sponsors, Argenta BVBA Terbus, Tiensevest 188 in Leuven, and De Denksportkampioen, Brusselsesteenweg 485 in Gentbrugge. www.dedenksport.... Thanks to the chess club Leuven Centraal for lending us their clocks.
    The annotations here are based on a 4 ply analysis by GNU Backgammon. Feel free ad your own insights in the comments.
    Link to semi-final, annotated by Michel: • 2011 Leuven Open Backg...

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  • @billr4730
    @billr4730 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    if those guys play with greeks they have 0 chance to win

    • @Schmeckes
      @Schmeckes 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill R fuckin true my father is from greece and there is no chance to win against him

  • @bubblesvampire7575
    @bubblesvampire7575 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am a beginner, but watching these men play with the comments is very useful! Thanks.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hitting is not always the best move. Unfortunately there is no simple rule to decide when it is preferable or not. Actually the game is attractive just because there are no simple rules for such decisions. I advice you to play a lot to get some insights by yourself in the matter. Then you can read a beginner's book or see the TH-cam channel of Ensor42.

    • @josephineallred4584
      @josephineallred4584 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      pdwu2b Ensor42 is my favorite backgammon channel! It is how I learned the basics and how I am now learning strategies. It is a little slow moving but it’s still worth it

  • @kadir.61
    @kadir.61 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    where can i get/ buy this board. anyone who knows the name of it or the brand?

  • @henrylebard2648
    @henrylebard2648 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awful awful move with the 6-2 11:00 into the video. Definitely the move that led to him losing the match, one could say. Making his 4-point accomplishes virtually nothing and he has left Red with an easy shot to this the blot on the 10-point.

    • @vvanderer
      @vvanderer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry Lebard agreed.i thought double was prematuretoo

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, sometimes you must hit your opponent, even if you don't want to. If you land on a point as part of your move, and there is one opponent's checker on that point (called a blot), you must take this checker and put it on the bar. I can advise the great series for beginners on Ensor42's channel (search "Backgammon for complete beginners"). The pace is slow, but Ensor's explanation is crystal clear.

  • @bcaulf
    @bcaulf 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For anyone working on their game, you can get more insight into this match by downloading a .mat file from the Leuven club website, opening it in GnuBG, doing an analysis and stepping through the moves to see the alternatives etc.
    Gnu thinks these guys are very good. The loser made only two moves in four games that it called 'doubtful' and the winner made none. Games one and two were back and forth, tied close to their conclusions and were decided by late dice rolls.

  • @Ahmed_kanoon
    @Ahmed_kanoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:7
    Why did the first match end?

  • @Evolvedprimate
    @Evolvedprimate 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 06:27 the player on the left got a phone call from his support team watching the game in CC advising him what moves to make.
    That is cheating

  • @ElmaFudd2
    @ElmaFudd2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really interesting to watch! I have only just started to play backgammon and I am very pleased to see them making moves I would have in their situations!!!! Gives me some hope for the strategic part of the game! :)

  • @bugisami
    @bugisami 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you talking about? One is the Dutch champion and the other is rated Belgium's #1. You are clueless about backgammon. You're not even a rookie, but somewhere between hopeless and awful.

  • @JonathanWaltersDrDub
    @JonathanWaltersDrDub 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:29 Don't drink and dice people!

  • @olegyefremov2583
    @olegyefremov2583 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm too dumb, I can't keep up with their moves. When I play I have to count each move

  • @orhankarazeybek7958
    @orhankarazeybek7958 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ilk oyunu izledim saçma sapan oyun oynuyolar resmen

    • @copingmurat1741
      @copingmurat1741 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Orhan Karazeybek bunlarla 1 el oyna dahada tavla oynamazsın ne saçması adamlar pro

    • @ozgursalman7379
      @ozgursalman7379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@copingmurat1741 Pro değil iyi oyuncu.

  • @gonzalomarti9147
    @gonzalomarti9147 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WTF, No entendi ni papa

  • @AvaT42
    @AvaT42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow these guys are fast! I just got a tutorial to learn how to play this game. Do not think I will ever be this fast. Lol

  • @goombas3040
    @goombas3040 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it normal to play 40 minutes of backgammon and not even utter 1 single word?

    • @vvanderer
      @vvanderer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      goombas3040 yep

  • @bobbylow175
    @bobbylow175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy on the left has arms/hands like Howard Stern.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations to Michel Lamote for reaching the final 8 in the Nordic Open 2012, probably the toughest tournament in the world.

  • @ozgursalman7379
    @ozgursalman7379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Netteki en zevkli tavla maçı

  • @Loonyy22
    @Loonyy22 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats a nice board, anyone know who makes it?

  • @TheOfficialBigBoyThings
    @TheOfficialBigBoyThings 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i came here to say this....stupid moves from the beginning. i found myself yelling at them "why the hell you doing that?"

  • @محمدالشمريالعراقي-و2ب
    @محمدالشمريالعراقي-و2ب 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    هاي شسمهه ليخلون بيهه الزار

  • @ÖzgürSalman-f1x
    @ÖzgürSalman-f1x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Profesyonel match

  • @derheglmeier
    @derheglmeier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michel got quite lucky in game 2 and 3

  • @JVDS94
    @JVDS94 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading this. Really nice with the commentary!

  • @luckyluke2169
    @luckyluke2169 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gözlüklü zar tutuyor

  • @aleksbossi8923
    @aleksbossi8923 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that he didnt played well the 1 6 min 4:03
    i havent seen the full match but i think that was a mistake

    • @pdwu2b
      @pdwu2b  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right Aleks.
      If you watch the video with annotations on you will see a comment whenever a major error is made.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, you can not. The sum of the dice is not relevant, you have to play number by number, and if the point are blocked, you can not move.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the opponent hasn't made a lot of points in his homeboard yet, you can take more risky plays to get an advantage. If you do get hit, you should be able to come back in again easily. The strategic advantage you'd go for could be: occupying important points, building a homeboard, building a prime, or getting a decisive race lead. Once the opponent starts making points in his homeboard, you should take less risks. Balancing this risk-taking is a skill you can spend a lifetime on to master.

  • @dropagemonem
    @dropagemonem 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why h stopped playing first game? he was about to win

    • @davidlarsen1981
      @davidlarsen1981 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah he was about to win... when opponent hit double 4, double 5 to take huge lead in the race and has next roll, clear pass.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    But if he did, would it not be allowed? In the case of Wayne Rooney it could be considered unprofessional towards his teammates, but here Paulus is playing individually. The game is time-controlled with a chess-clock, so he is just using up his own allocated time. I don't think it bothered the opponent, otherwise he would have said something.

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    It depends... on the setting and on the players. This setting is a final of tournament, with the ever-present added stress of the ticking clock. Even in such circumstances some players will happily chat away. These don't, it's their choice. On other boards you might see talk all the time, and the backgammon playing is secondary.

  • @sharebaanda1200
    @sharebaanda1200 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    super weak

  • @ApoelEokaGr
    @ApoelEokaGr 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realise this is stop clock Backgammon But Both Players R 2 attackin man they R more liable 2 makin mistakes & leavin the defence exposed 1 in dice roll mistake can destroy either mans gameplan if any1 real serious learners wanna play Xpert Back gammon I will show U how its done & yes my lessons R free :D the best Players R Southern Cypriot

  • @tangocukedi1
    @tangocukedi1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LUCKY BASTARD

  • @bugisami
    @bugisami 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was the last time a Persian won a world-class tournament?
    The fact that backgammon originated in Persia means nothing more than that. Chess originated in India, yet the best players are not Indian. India has 11 grandmasters. Russia, with 1/8th of the population, has 230. Even Iceland, with 1/3700th of the population, has 12. And if you believe chess also originated In Persia, Iran has only 8 grandmasters; nothing to boast about.
    Patriotism is one thing. Bullshit is another.

  • @sekilsinizya
    @sekilsinizya 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    SİZ BİZİM KAHVEHANELERE GELİN HERKEZ +9 AMK :DDD

  • @elsentai100
    @elsentai100 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    well i ll have to agree with momo. they both play very agressive game.their style maybe like that but that style will give y not easy victory and advantage to the opponent for double. i dont say they are noobs , i m saying that as i saw in the first game if he did different moves he would block the 4-4 and 5-5.. just saying..

  • @toni8675
    @toni8675 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    For an eastern european it is on the contrary... the most entertaining game ever ;)

  • @zwedanez
    @zwedanez 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    07:17 is he thinking of make a hit and not fill up the 5 and use the third checker on 4 as safty or am i out sailing??.. otherwise i to would play 8/5 8/2 to!!!

  • @ozgursalman7379
    @ozgursalman7379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Netteki en güzel tavlalardan biri...

  • @pdwu2b
    @pdwu2b  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the five possible legal moves, the one Michel played is the best.

  • @dustymagic64
    @dustymagic64 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    TXTING during a FINAL....is that allowed or just plain unprofessional...you dont see Wayne Rooney stop to take a call on his mobile during a cup final.

  • @delaflota7423
    @delaflota7423 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, what meands Switching to 11 point was better in 4:17?
    Thanks

  • @kamranmohajer8635
    @kamranmohajer8635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok

  • @tomspeed2005
    @tomspeed2005 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    So ugly backgammon for playing game, also cube is not good for this game :)

  • @lyrasimo
    @lyrasimo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice backgammon set , i want one like this !!!! But the price are too high for my pocket :(

  • @lllexoduslll
    @lllexoduslll 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, you need an empty space between. You play one die at a time so: 4 then 2 or 2 then 4.

  • @MrHomita1503
    @MrHomita1503 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    too right without doubt that is one of the best ive seen cant take my eyes from the screen

  • @erdalpakir4778
    @erdalpakir4778 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben bunları havada parçalarım lan

  • @pokernuts
    @pokernuts 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched the first 30 seconds and I'm very impressed with the video. Will have to watch the rest later.

  • @yalikejazz3219
    @yalikejazz3219 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn look at this fellow gamers

  • @Chris24hrbail
    @Chris24hrbail 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Answer to your question is, go back to playing checkers!!!

  • @HotChocol4te
    @HotChocol4te 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a beginner, but I should to say this is a lovely game ^_____^

  • @eudksvrs
    @eudksvrs 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kijk nou, meneer van Rooijen himself, groeten uit Thailand!

  • @DrummerBoyJason
    @DrummerBoyJason 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    44 followed by 55 in that first game. Brutal dice.

  • @SJGster
    @SJGster 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    When would you prefer not to hit your opponent?

  • @k.marmaras99
    @k.marmaras99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turks and Greeks rules leuven...

  • @invernomuto00
    @invernomuto00 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh god we are doomed. wtf is this shit?

  • @32Jonathan32
    @32Jonathan32 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weirdest board game ever.

  • @zwedanez
    @zwedanez 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    08:25 BaaaaaMMMM :)

    • @roy2484
      @roy2484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤫🤔

  • @геннадийчервинский-ю7у
    @геннадийчервинский-ю7у 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    очкарику бы подумать а он гонит как на пожар

  • @peterweltweit
    @peterweltweit 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    touch and play!

  • @геннадийчервинский-ю7у
    @геннадийчервинский-ю7у 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    не доигрывает .вроде бы сливает игру.

  • @geralynleanmuili2525
    @geralynleanmuili2525 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wendy nancy

  • @invernomuto00
    @invernomuto00 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    go get a job

  • @32Jonathan32
    @32Jonathan32 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indeed.

  • @manyak2052
    @manyak2052 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    omg sooooooooooo bad players

  • @yurafarizyan9262
    @yurafarizyan9262 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    дподж

  • @johnklis
    @johnklis 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS IS THE GEEKIEST WAY TO PLAY BACKGAMMON IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW THE REAL BACKAGAMMON IS PLAYED COME TO GREECE BOTH OF THEM PLAYED THE GAME SOOOOOO WRONG......

  • @BTDiLmarinen
    @BTDiLmarinen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Backgammon is a pub game. Its a game of the middle class. There is no professional or respect or anything. You can text, troll, take a call etc.

  • @peterweltweit
    @peterweltweit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 14:00 touch take back what a f...

  • @ilyaskingofkings
    @ilyaskingofkings 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    schach für doofe

    • @derheglmeier
      @derheglmeier 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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