Hey Chris, next time, just chain-bind a couple of chains across the ramp part of the deck so the tracks will have something to grab and not slip. Love your content.
We had the same issue with our tag trailer. We stripped the wood off and took 1/4” angle iron upside down on the ramps and beaver tail. No issues since. Good luck!
A couple years ago I saw a video of an operator trying to load a D6 LGP in freezing rain. After a couple nasty slides, out came the old tires and up the ramps she went.
I've seen equipment trailers with small tires up front. I guessed they were a loading aid, but not seen them actually used in this sort of situation. I bet a few hundred dozers and other heavy stuff, get loaded on trailers everyday, and in every condition, so you may depend others have had this problem and found a fix. That could have gone _very_ nasty, and Bossman Uncle John would not have been smiling. I expect we'll see some old tires added to the Letsdig18 transport accessory list before too long.
Hook a chain or two across the dovetail for tracks to grab. Or cross 2 chains in x to trailer and to track. Chain keeps from tracks from sliding and will winch you up and eaiser to correct if sliding
When I first started running equipment, the guy I worked far had a D6 High track slide off the trailer and almost flip. I got a roll of toilet paper out of the truck and asked him if he needed it. He didn't think it was as damn funny as all of us did.
That's as good as a TH-cam notification. Everytime the mailman hits that pavement he will remember to watch the new LetsDig18 video. Thanks for all the videos Chris.
We had rebar welded down on the ramps for the tracks to grab. Works perfect and you cant hurt them. I currently have square bars welded on, I like the rebar better.
"How boutcha there driver" that gave me a laugh. I'm going to use that one on the radio at work tomorrow when I pass another mixer see if he responds lol
To load a dozer on a slick trailer, sprinkle some sand all over the trailer bed. Trailer ramps should have metal cleats welded on them for traction. Many turnover accidents happen loading on a slope with muddy or wet tracks. Most critical is the breakover point.
I had this problem once here in Wisconsin in the winter, a dozer with ice covered tracks trying to climb onto an overdeck trailer. I could get almost to the breaking point where it would nose down and then lose it. I had a guy with me so we ran chains from the blade forward to the Drings, when I slipped I picked the blade up which forced the nose down so it’d bite more and it climbed right up no problem. It’s a real pain with a smooth drum roller or sheepsfoot compactor, those won’t bite on anything
been there, done that, went sideways off the trailer....no harm done, just broke over the dovetail and as soon as the tracks hit square on the trailer, it slowly went sideways and off the side. unhook trailer, chain up upper track to pintle hitch, and pull back on both trax lol....boss asks me "what took you so long to move the dozer?"......weeelllllll, lemme tell you a little story lol
Might try throwing a chain across the ramps or end of the tail and hook it tight on the rub rails when its slick like that. The grousers will catch the chain and you can stay straight on the trailer. It wont let you slide like that. Just like having steel traction bars welded on the tail.
Had the exact same problem one time with a Komatsu 31p-20 with pyramid tracks or some call them swamp tracks in MS. Wet Wood and steel is slick sometimes. Hey Chris get you some worn out boat trailer tires and lay them down on the wood part of ramp. But then again just something else to carry around but it sure saved me one time.
Does the Dozer make it up this time? Lol I'll watch it twice 😉 definitely feel your frustrations on slippery trailer ramps😡..Saw some scuffs on the counter weight..better buff out!!
No easy way about it but what an old man man told me to do is wrap a chain around the trailer and the ramps you know like all the way around and hook it in the middle and that chain gives you an unbelievable amount of traction when it’s slippery
That's what I was about to say. Old mudflaps work pretty good...can be bolted or screwed down with fender washers too. Cheap/free and easily replaceable.
Might be worth bolting done some textured rubber mats or something on the dovetail. Like a few old mud flaps or something to give something for the metal tracks to get traction on even when wet. A guys gotta have nerves of steel having a heavy machine slip and slide like that loading it on a trailer.
so many comments about increasing traction, using rubber mats, old tires, weld rebar across, when really the whole problem came down to speed ... or rather a lack thereof. Next time floor it, run the dozer up the ramps at 3 to 4 times the speed and get it up there before it even has time to think about sliding sideways. Sometimes you just gotta trick the equipment a little bit. :D
Call around and find some old used restaurant kitchen rubber no slip floor runners and throw them down on the ramps and deck before loading steel tracks, it works crazy good and is much safer.
I worked a crash where a fella loaded his D-6 on a wet steel trailer. He said he wasn't going far so he didn't tie it down. Made the turn onto the state highway flipped the whole thing off the trailer upside down. Busted sprockets, blade rotaters busted up good.
Time to change out that dovetail for one with grip bars welded across! A company I used to work for had a deck over like this that I refused to use due to the danger of equipment sliding off while loading or unloading. I would only use a trailer that had traction bars welded to the dovetail.
I read some the comments.. They all do work.. But I have been there.. And the fastest cheapest way to fix that is. Big bolts screw them into the deck.. And the tracks will catch the bolt heads.. Them if any break off just replace the bolt..
You had posted the end of that video first ! 🤔 it was about a minute 46 seconds long ! 🧐 with you taking the Dozer off the trailer and Timmy sweeping it off ! I was wondering what the hell that was ! 💥👇😲😆
I've had to wrap chains on the ramps before to give my machines tracks something to grab onto for traction. Just hook the chain on one side of the ramp and wrap it around and around and around until you run out and then hook that end (use a binder if you need to). Then do the same on the other ramp and drive up.
If you could get a chain attached to the bottom of the tracks, you might be able to just drive it on and somehow get the chain out from under the tracks afterwards.
Tried that once and the dozer tipped over, so I almost shit my pants when I saw you on that wet ramp. The cheapest way to avoid that dangerous situation will be to have som rubber matts to lay under. Fast cheap and easy. Course no one would like to see you tip over with some of the machinery.
Modern automatic can out pull stick now it is more continuous in shifting plus it uses tyranny fluid tourx converter hydraulics to move and shift the truck
In a pinch, run a few of your chains across the dovetail for additional grip as you climb it up on there. Of course cleats are in your future, I'm sure. And 4:25 "Batta Bing Batta Boom"
I don’t like ramps and beaver tails with boards. I’ve had this problem before. Now I have open slat bars for the ramps and beaver tails on trailers. A lot less trouble
We ended up wrapping a chain around the ramps before an hooked another chain from the rubrail across the dove tail to the other rubrail just to get some traction.
When I watched you back that dozer all the hell far away from the trailer I thought you were fixing to get one hell of a run up and charge at the trailer.
We deal with that sliding issue in pa alot I take two chains and wrap them around each ramp a few times works like a charm if your interested in trying it
Chris next time if trying to load in the wet bring about 6 old car tyres with you they will give you a bit more grip on the trailer deck and the tracks will grip in them.
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perfectionist had to reverse those clips i see...thanks for the videos chris
haha yeah I screwed up!
@@letsdig18 at least you did not slide completely off and high center it on the ramp
Chris done forgot more about backing a truck than most of these steering wheel holders ever knew! Keep diggin😎
That's why we welded 1/4" stock every foot up the dove on the trailer. Been there. No fun.
Lol I said the same thing...see one come off and I was standin there like Tim helpless
I was thinking of saying that same thing, and, lowering his blade .
I was just going to comment the same thing.
@@jerrystott7780 It makes a world of difference.
@@travismarett7100 we used to use half inch rebar, but the machinery was quite a bit bigger, the application is the same though.
Hey Chris, next time, just chain-bind a couple of chains across the ramp part of the deck so the tracks will have something to grab and not slip.
Love your content.
We had the same issue with our tag trailer. We stripped the wood off and took 1/4” angle iron upside down on the ramps and beaver tail. No issues since. Good luck!
I'll bet you were saying a few choice works in the cab of the bulldozer 😂😂😂😂
I have been doing this stuff since 1968 . I am very used to this loading wet and angled. Carry about 6-10 burlap bags They work wonders
Doing a fine job driver !! Glad you got the dozer on there ! Thanks for sharing
In this video: letsdig18 gives new meaning to “set ‘er sideways”
For myself: four old car tires we keep with the trailer, the tires help with the traction and also keep the grousers from eating the ramps.
A couple years ago I saw a video of an operator trying to load a D6 LGP in freezing rain. After a couple nasty slides, out came the old tires and up the ramps she went.
That's what I said to the computer monitor,..." go get some old tires Chris." but he didn't hear me !!
I've seen equipment trailers with small tires up front. I guessed they were a loading aid, but not seen them actually used in this sort of situation. I bet a few hundred dozers and other heavy stuff, get loaded on trailers everyday, and in every condition, so you may depend others have had this problem and found a fix. That could have gone _very_ nasty, and Bossman Uncle John would not have been smiling. I expect we'll see some old tires added to the Letsdig18 transport accessory list before too long.
wow ur actually really good at driving a big rig...and the reverse maneuvet into that driveway was admirable. well done guy
Think I see rubber mats on the tail soon
Been there and done that.. I ended up welding some angle iron on my dove tail to give the dozer cleats something to get a hold of.
Chris, thanx for bringing us along buddy. I bout crapped my pants there 1 time.
Yesterday I couldn't spell truck driver and today I are one!! Nice backing job Chris!!
The most dangerous part of operating heavy equipment. Getting it on and off the trailer.
Hook a chain or two across the dovetail for tracks to grab. Or cross 2 chains in x to trailer and to track. Chain keeps from tracks from sliding and will winch you up and eaiser to correct if sliding
Great job using the 'road's cross slope' to assist the bulldozer's track system for loading. "Where there is a will there is a way!"
Your a really good driver and really good operator I hope to aquire as much skill as you when I get older
Swami says there will be a boat load of advice on increasing traction on a trailer.
Ed Byrne You called it! Hehe
Kitty litter should do the trick....
When I first started running equipment, the guy I worked far had a D6 High track slide off the trailer and almost flip. I got a roll of toilet paper out of the truck and asked him if he needed it. He didn't think it was as damn funny as all of us did.
That's as good as a TH-cam notification. Everytime the mailman hits that pavement he will remember to watch the new LetsDig18 video. Thanks for all the videos Chris.
Next time you are at the Quarry, ask them if they have some old conveyor belt, cut it up and bolt it to your steel ramps.
Great idea, I was thinking just carry a bag of cat litter in the truck, but your idea would be a long term solution.
I was thinking aww Hell No !! I've done been Hacked or something....lololol... Had me Freakin" there for a min Chris !! lolol....
We had rebar welded down on the ramps for the tracks to grab. Works perfect and you cant hurt them. I currently have square bars welded on, I like the rebar better.
Been there more times than I care to remember! Always carry a bucket of ag lime with me on wet days now. Works awesome 👍🏻
Metal on metal wet and slick makes for fun loading. I feel you buddy. Been there.
Throw a chain over the tralier and tighten it with a binder. Should give you plenty of grip
^^^ THIS!!!!
Most of the time I'll carry a "safety" chain that is pretty much scrap. I'll use it in this fashion due to some tracks will chew through the chain lol
"How boutcha there driver" that gave me a laugh. I'm going to use that one on the radio at work tomorrow when I pass another mixer see if he responds lol
lol
To load a dozer on a slick trailer, sprinkle some sand all over the trailer bed. Trailer ramps should have metal cleats welded on them for traction. Many turnover accidents happen loading on a slope with muddy or wet tracks. Most critical is the breakover point.
I had this problem once here in Wisconsin in the winter, a dozer with ice covered tracks trying to climb onto an overdeck trailer. I could get almost to the breaking point where it would nose down and then lose it. I had a guy with me so we ran chains from the blade forward to the Drings, when I slipped I picked the blade up which forced the nose down so it’d bite more and it climbed right up no problem. It’s a real pain with a smooth drum roller or sheepsfoot compactor, those won’t bite on anything
Chris that is one wet slippery trailer, glad to see a video of what it really takes to get to all the jobs.
been there, done that, went sideways off the trailer....no harm done, just broke over the dovetail and as soon as the tracks hit square on the trailer, it slowly went sideways and off the side. unhook trailer, chain up upper track to pintle hitch, and pull back on both trax lol....boss asks me "what took you so long to move the dozer?"......weeelllllll, lemme tell you a little story lol
Might try throwing a chain across the ramps or end of the tail and hook it tight on the rub rails when its slick like that. The grousers will catch the chain and you can stay straight on the trailer. It wont let you slide like that. Just like having steel traction bars welded on the tail.
Had the exact same problem one time with a Komatsu 31p-20 with pyramid tracks or some call them swamp tracks in MS. Wet Wood and steel is slick sometimes.
Hey Chris get you some worn out boat trailer tires and lay them down on the wood part of ramp. But then again just something else to carry around but it sure saved me one time.
Does the Dozer make it up this time? Lol I'll watch it twice 😉 definitely feel your frustrations on slippery trailer ramps😡..Saw some scuffs on the counter weight..better buff out!!
Tipped one over on a wet trailer deck, pretty exciting.
No easy way about it but what an old man man told me to do is wrap a chain around the trailer and the ramps you know like all the way around and hook it in the middle and that chain gives you an unbelievable amount of traction when it’s slippery
Thank goodness. I couldn't have held my breath much longer.
Weld some rebar across your ramps!!
You finally uploaded the right Vidja. Lol God bless
Old rubber tire sections for traction , problem solved. Scrap yards have all sorts of goodies, cheap. Felt your frustration Chris.
Always carry mudflaps with you to lay on the steel. We use them on the 4 axle cosad to load the excavator when it rains which is a lot out here.
That's what I was about to say. Old mudflaps work pretty good...can be bolted or screwed down with fender washers too. Cheap/free and easily replaceable.
Or conveyer belt
Can also put a chain with a binder in the middle across the trailer
Might be worth bolting done some textured rubber mats or something on the dovetail. Like a few old mud flaps or something to give something for the metal tracks to get traction on even when wet. A guys gotta have nerves of steel having a heavy machine slip and slide like that loading it on a trailer.
Just get on the damn trailer!!!😂🤣😂
See if you can get some used belting from that gravel pit to make it easier to get on the trailer.
I would attach some traction lugs to those ramps and dovetail.👍
Well that was exciting! The dozer was not going on without a fight lol!
Elite Earthworks LLC for sure
Hahahahahaha... Wait'll Uncle John sees THIS! **giggles**
Steel tracks on wet wood ... just like ice skating ! nice skills there driver ;)
You got a little crazy that day Chris. Lol
so many comments about increasing traction, using rubber mats, old tires, weld rebar across, when really the whole problem came down to speed ... or rather a lack thereof. Next time floor it, run the dozer up the ramps at 3 to 4 times the speed and get it up there before it even has time to think about sliding sideways. Sometimes you just gotta trick the equipment a little bit. :D
Call around and find some old used restaurant kitchen rubber no slip floor runners and throw them down on the ramps and deck before loading steel tracks, it works crazy good and is much safer.
Amazing what the addition of a little moisture will do. Slip slidden away.
Best double-shot ive seen all Year...
Trailer pointing a little downhill helps a bunch. Good job!
I worked a crash where a fella loaded his D-6 on a wet steel trailer. He said he wasn't going far so he didn't tie it down. Made the turn onto the state highway flipped the whole thing off the trailer upside down. Busted sprockets, blade rotaters busted up good.
Tie one chain across the trailer at about the top of the beaver tail and then hang two chains down the ramps from the first chain. Drive on up!
Time to change out that dovetail for one with grip bars welded across!
A company I used to work for had a deck over like this that I refused to use due to the danger of equipment sliding off while loading or unloading. I would only use a trailer that had traction bars welded to the dovetail.
Horse stall mats work really well and hold up against the steel tracks
Just going 2 sent it 😂😂😂😂 going to need a little grass seed there 😂😂 😂
You should carry a couple of rubber conveyor belts good for wet weather loading of steel tracks.
Tipped one over on a whet deck, very exciting
I read some the comments.. They all do work.. But I have been there.. And the fastest cheapest way to fix that is. Big bolts screw them into the deck.. And the tracks will catch the bolt heads.. Them if any break off just replace the bolt..
That is a nice dozer. My uncle loves his.
I'm sure "the guy" was real happy to see what happened to his property frontage. Not to mention cleating the highway.
You had posted the end of that video first ! 🤔 it was about a minute 46 seconds long ! 🧐 with you taking the Dozer off the trailer and Timmy sweeping it off ! I was wondering what the hell that was ! 💥👇😲😆
Weld some half inch square stock on sides of ramps it will help from sliding sideways since your ramps have wood in the middle
I've had to wrap chains on the ramps before to give my machines tracks something to grab onto for traction. Just hook the chain on one side of the ramp and wrap it around and around and around until you run out and then hook that end (use a binder if you need to). Then do the same on the other ramp and drive up.
If you could get a chain attached to the bottom of the tracks, you might be able to just drive it on and somehow get the chain out from under the tracks afterwards.
Tried that once and the dozer tipped over, so I almost shit my pants when I saw you on that wet ramp.
The cheapest way to avoid that dangerous situation will be to have som rubber matts to lay under.
Fast cheap and easy.
Course no one would like to see you tip over with some of the machinery.
Still amazed how fast those dump trucks of yours accelerate, especially when hauling a heavy load.
Modern automatic can out pull stick now it is more continuous in shifting plus it uses tyranny fluid tourx converter hydraulics to move and shift the truck
So much for that pretty green grass 🤣😂
Besides the Dozer giving ya Fits ....lolol
In a pinch, run a few of your chains across the dovetail for additional grip as you climb it up on there. Of course cleats are in your future, I'm sure. And 4:25 "Batta Bing Batta Boom"
I’ve been there with my Dozer not wanting to load when very muddy or rain. Scary moments....
First time I ever saw a dozer tell an operator no. LOL
Dammit, boy! We'll make a big truck driver out-a-you, yet!
I don’t like ramps and beaver tails with boards. I’ve had this problem before. Now I have open slat bars for the ramps and beaver tails on trailers. A lot less trouble
Slip sliding away, heck I think there is a song there too. Ya got it sorted that is the main thing and made for a cool video.
I don't know about you Timmy but I think Chris needs a CAT dozer!!!
We ended up wrapping a chain around the ramps before an hooked another chain from the rubrail across the dove tail to the other rubrail just to get some traction.
Nice of you to prep the road shoulder for seeding - and for free, too.
Thank you for your daily videos, I look forward to them every night! Keep up the good work.
Puckered enough to make a diamond out of a lump of coal?
When I watched you back that dozer all the hell far away from the trailer I thought you were fixing to get one hell of a run up and charge at the trailer.
At 7:23, I'd of s*** my pants going sideways down those trailer ramps. Been there...done that. Lol.
Where'd the ding come from on the counterweight?
That was a wee bit scary with the dozer.
Thanks for the video. 👍
We deal with that sliding issue in pa alot I take two chains and wrap them around each ramp a few times works like a charm if your interested in trying it
Very wet and slippery conditions tracks slipping away Chris.....i saw a dent on the excavator on the counterweight.....😎🤔
Chris next time if trying to load in the wet bring about 6 old car tyres with you they will give you a bit more grip on the trailer deck and the tracks will grip in them.
Nice work. Crazy where those boogers will go on dirt and then slick up on a lil trailer
Good job backing up.
Its scary in a big chunk of metal slipping and sliding along a slope. Rubber track pads help, but not in clay mub or ice.
I took old conveyor belt and bolted it on. Works wonders
Love Tim narrating
some heavy rubber mats on the ramps would come in handy or some round bar ribbs
I'm guessing there were fresh "button holes" pinched the the seat of the dozer! LOL!
WHAT, a dent in the excavator!!??
Yes Brad a dent on the counterweight i saw it to......😟
I bet that guy was thrilled about his yard after driving back and forth and turning on it lol.