paragon reallyhas their C8 equipment on point, they are one of the best and finest in the game right now. that exhaust really livens up the Lt2 and lets it sing and breathe the American song.
Without a doubt, best comparison exhaust video I have seen/heard! Nice job. The PP exhaust is definitely louder and deeper than the stock, and is music to my ears. I am still waiting on my 2022 , but have been on the fence about PP or AWE...think this vid just swung me towards PP. Thank you!
Thank you. Yes, you have different exhaust vids all over the place, but unless you can compare it to something else using the same recording devices, equipment and circumstances, it really is hard to tell. It was a little louder than I expected, but thats not a bad thing. My only gripe is the very low pitched hum/drone when it is in V4 mode, but I believe all after market exhausts will have that, since the engine puts out that noise. Good thing I drive mine likes its stolen, so I'm rarely in V4 mode, lol.
@@mjr_c8678 Appreciate the honesty about the minor drone...I am not worried about that either. I see you had the non-NPP factory exhaust, so did you get any CEL with the PP install? Did you have to use the AFM/NPP simulators from PP?
Just an update to this comment for future readers and clarity. I did not get the AFM delete simulator. I also never had a check engine light problem. After discussing this with other people, I found that most people do need the simulator, regardless of model year. I suspect the reason why I never had a problem was because I had a Chevy Dealership install my exhaust, and they did a ECU Re-learn as part of the install processes.
Such variety of sounds, yeah everything has an impact on the overall sound, I have noticed changes in sound since I've installed Victor racing active wing.
I was at work maybe 10 minutes ago and heard something loud as shit that sounded so damn good so i rushed out to see what it was and it was a new C8 and I asked the guy what exhaust he had and he said this ans it’s absolutely fucking insane in real life
I just picked up. my 22 HTC Z51, and after watching your video, and others, I think the Paragon Touring Exhaust would be best for my car. I like the rich, deeper sound, and the noise level is not annoying...I don't want a racket of sound, just a performance oriented system that soundsgood. Did you notice anything performance-wise, after installing it?
Great video. How does the in cabin sound compare to the Borla ATAK, valves open vs closed. Also I do not worry about the V4 drone as I always drive in manual mode locking out the AFM. This is helpful for anyone concerned about this when cruising.
I've never heard the Borla system in person, so I can't say for sure, but based on discussions with people online, I suspect the volume in the cabin is equivalent to the valves being open on the Borla. After driving this for almost 3 months, I have gotten "used to" the AFM, and isn't that bad any more. You can still hold a normal conversation with the passenger while cruising, but will need to "speak up" if accelerating "kinda hard." For me, for the price, you can't beat it. If I'm alone, I normally listen to music at a higher volume, and while cruising, I can't even hear the exhaust.
Glad to hear you are happy with Paragon. I also have the non performance exhaust from the factory, but I would like to adjust this with the different driving modes the C8 offers. Can I get that with the Paragon exhaust?
No. Paragon is not a valved exhaust system. So it will be roughly the same as your stock non NPP exhaust. Yes adjusting your C8 to track or sport mode does make the shifts harder which in turn makes it "sound" little louder during shifts as apposed to tour mode, but with out the NPP exhaust you cannot open/close valves to truly adjust the sound level. Even buying a after market valved exhaust will not help you because your C8 does not have the software/settings to control the vavles.
Had my Chevy Dealership do it, because they have done 5 prior to me, so I trust them. They are a big C8 Dealership. But it does seems like a mechanically inclined DIY'er can do it according to their install video. Depending on highly where you live around the country, I seen install labor prices range from $650-$950.
@@bluepstu9009 Unlike AWE, heatshields do not come with this, and don't think they are needed. I didn't install any. There is less tubing than other exhausts, and plenty of space around it for heat distribution. However for any specifics, or more detail, I would contact Paragon directly.
That diffuser, along with all my CF, I received from AG Motorsports. Link is in the description. I'm actually replacing it soon. I ordered very similar CF diffuser, with built-in fins, from Anderson Composites back in October, and its finally set to arrive in a few days, lol.
I got a question about driving a vette. Is it a problem in some areas with dips? Being that they’re so low to the ground? I’d be so scared to scrape my bumper
I personally have the front lift. However, there was 1 time when I was pulling into an entry way with a dip, and I forgot to activate my lift, and a scraped a little. It was minor, no damage. It all comes down to if you have a lot of speed bumps where you drive. Also, do you have the regular front splitter or not. Front splitters can be replaced for under $300, were the front lift is now a 2,200 option. You can replace a a lot of front splitter for that price. Now if you have an expensive carbon fiber splitter like me, it might make sense to get the lift option. Its all personal preference. But I would recommend the lift option.
Yes, a little. As with any non-valved exhaust, the AFM valve is not used, so you can hear the difference between V4 and V8 modes. Its my only "complaint" about the exhaust, but almost all exhausts have this issue, unless you are willing to pay more than double the price of this exhaust. (like 4,000+ for Borla) However after having this for two months now, It doesn't really phase me any more, and I drive my C8 very "spiritedly" so I'm rarely in V4 more, lol..
@@mjr_c8678 , thank you for the response. Can you tell me about the sound, is it deeper? That is what I am after, and I don’t want to lose the pop from the up-shifts. If you had it to do over, would you still go with it? How is the build quality? Did you purchase the modules for the check engine light?
@@fleetmanagement7303 It is ALOT deeper. Deeper than I anticipated actually. The up-shift pops are a lot louder, and the idle down "gurgle" is louder. I love the sound. Yes I would do it again. I did not get the AFM delete simulator, because I thought 2021's didn't need it. Turns out, it is possible it still needed for 2021/22's. However, I never had an issue, because I assume since a chevy dealership installed my Exhaust, they also did a ECU re-learn to remove the CEL. I do recommend the simulators (especially if you are not having a chevy dealership do the install) because its saves about an hour on install time because you don't have to remove them and reinstall them. FYI, even when they are re-installed, they are not used, just attached to the transmission out of the way.
@@mjradik I drove a friends C8 with this system and it was insanely loud to the point of giving me a headache. Am I correct to assume that was the track system? On a scale of 1-10, how much different is the touring system from factory exhaust? I cannot stand the performance exhaust on my car as I hear the engine more than the exhaust 90% of the time driving around town.
Thats more my driving. The exhaust only adds about 20 HP total, so it wouldn't have much effect on 0-60 times. Maybe .1 seconds, if that, which the driver and easily mess up, lol.
paragon reallyhas their C8 equipment on point, they are one of the best and finest in the game right now. that exhaust really livens up the Lt2 and lets it sing and breathe the American song.
Just received mine. I’m
Excited. Gonna put it on when my Procharger comes in. I’ll post some videos!!
Without a doubt, best comparison exhaust video I have seen/heard! Nice job. The PP exhaust is definitely louder and deeper than the stock, and is music to my ears. I am still waiting on my 2022 , but have been on the fence about PP or AWE...think this vid just swung me towards PP. Thank you!
Thank you. Yes, you have different exhaust vids all over the place, but unless you can compare it to something else using the same recording devices, equipment and circumstances, it really is hard to tell. It was a little louder than I expected, but thats not a bad thing. My only gripe is the very low pitched hum/drone when it is in V4 mode, but I believe all after market exhausts will have that, since the engine puts out that noise. Good thing I drive mine likes its stolen, so I'm rarely in V4 mode, lol.
@@mjr_c8678 Appreciate the honesty about the minor drone...I am not worried about that either. I see you had the non-NPP factory exhaust, so did you get any CEL with the PP install? Did you have to use the AFM/NPP simulators from PP?
@@keppthorn2997 No I did not get CEL or simulators or anything. Only the exhaust and tips, no add-ons.
@@mjr_c8678 understood...by CEL, I meant Check Engine Light after the install of the PP exhaust. Thanks!
Just an update to this comment for future readers and clarity. I did not get the AFM delete simulator. I also never had a check engine light problem. After discussing this with other people, I found that most people do need the simulator, regardless of model year. I suspect the reason why I never had a problem was because I had a Chevy Dealership install my exhaust, and they did a ECU Re-learn as part of the install processes.
Such variety of sounds, yeah everything has an impact on the overall sound, I have noticed changes in sound since I've installed Victor racing active wing.
How did sound change with the wing? About to buy one.
I was at work maybe 10 minutes ago and heard something loud as shit that sounded so damn good so i rushed out to see what it was and it was a new C8 and I asked the guy what exhaust he had and he said this ans it’s absolutely fucking insane in real life
I just picked up. my 22 HTC Z51, and after watching your video, and others, I think the Paragon Touring Exhaust would be best for my car. I like the rich, deeper sound, and the noise level is not annoying...I don't want a racket of sound, just a performance oriented system that soundsgood. Did you notice anything performance-wise, after installing it?
Great video. How does the in cabin sound compare to the Borla ATAK, valves open vs closed. Also I do not worry about the V4 drone as I always drive in manual mode locking out the AFM. This is helpful for anyone concerned about this when cruising.
I've never heard the Borla system in person, so I can't say for sure, but based on discussions with people online, I suspect the volume in the cabin is equivalent to the valves being open on the Borla. After driving this for almost 3 months, I have gotten "used to" the AFM, and isn't that bad any more. You can still hold a normal conversation with the passenger while cruising, but will need to "speak up" if accelerating "kinda hard." For me, for the price, you can't beat it. If I'm alone, I normally listen to music at a higher volume, and while cruising, I can't even hear the exhaust.
Glad to hear you are happy with Paragon. I also have the non performance exhaust from the factory, but I would like to adjust this with the different driving modes the C8 offers. Can I get that with the Paragon exhaust?
No. Paragon is not a valved exhaust system. So it will be roughly the same as your stock non NPP exhaust. Yes adjusting your C8 to track or sport mode does make the shifts harder which in turn makes it "sound" little louder during shifts as apposed to tour mode, but with out the NPP exhaust you cannot open/close valves to truly adjust the sound level. Even buying a after market valved exhaust will not help you because your C8 does not have the software/settings to control the vavles.
Very nice comparison video! I have been looking at this exhaust myself. Did you install it yourself or have a shop do it?
Had my Chevy Dealership do it, because they have done 5 prior to me, so I trust them. They are a big C8 Dealership. But it does seems like a mechanically inclined DIY'er can do it according to their install video. Depending on highly where you live around the country, I seen install labor prices range from $650-$950.
@@mjr_c8678 Thanks for the reply. Do you know if any heat shield needs to be put on the inside of the bumper?
@@bluepstu9009 Unlike AWE, heatshields do not come with this, and don't think they are needed. I didn't install any. There is less tubing than other exhausts, and plenty of space around it for heat distribution. However for any specifics, or more detail, I would contact Paragon directly.
Where did you get that carbon diffuser??
That diffuser, along with all my CF, I received from AG Motorsports. Link is in the description. I'm actually replacing it soon. I ordered very similar CF diffuser, with built-in fins, from Anderson Composites back in October, and its finally set to arrive in a few days, lol.
lol the smiley face in the middle
Do you hear pops and burbles when you down shift?
Hell Yea! Much louder than with the stock exhaust.
@@mjr_c8678 Prefect I'm Sold
I got a question about driving a vette. Is it a problem in some areas with dips? Being that they’re so low to the ground? I’d be so scared to scrape my bumper
I personally have the front lift. However, there was 1 time when I was pulling into an entry way with a dip, and I forgot to activate my lift, and a scraped a little. It was minor, no damage. It all comes down to if you have a lot of speed bumps where you drive. Also, do you have the regular front splitter or not. Front splitters can be replaced for under $300, were the front lift is now a 2,200 option. You can replace a a lot of front splitter for that price. Now if you have an expensive carbon fiber splitter like me, it might make sense to get the lift option. Its all personal preference. But I would recommend the lift option.
Is there any drone in AFM?
Yes, a little. As with any non-valved exhaust, the AFM valve is not used, so you can hear the difference between V4 and V8 modes. Its my only "complaint" about the exhaust, but almost all exhausts have this issue, unless you are willing to pay more than double the price of this exhaust. (like 4,000+ for Borla) However after having this for two months now, It doesn't really phase me any more, and I drive my C8 very "spiritedly" so I'm rarely in V4 more, lol..
@@mjr_c8678 , thank you for the response. Can you tell me about the sound, is it deeper? That is what I am after, and I don’t want to lose the pop from the up-shifts. If you had it to do over, would you still go with it? How is the build quality? Did you purchase the modules for the check engine light?
@@fleetmanagement7303 It is ALOT deeper. Deeper than I anticipated actually. The up-shift pops are a lot louder, and the idle down "gurgle" is louder. I love the sound. Yes I would do it again. I did not get the AFM delete simulator, because I thought 2021's didn't need it. Turns out, it is possible it still needed for 2021/22's. However, I never had an issue, because I assume since a chevy dealership installed my Exhaust, they also did a ECU re-learn to remove the CEL. I do recommend the simulators (especially if you are not having a chevy dealership do the install) because its saves about an hour on install time because you don't have to remove them and reinstall them. FYI, even when they are re-installed, they are not used, just attached to the transmission out of the way.
I can’t decide between touring and track. 😢
I recommend touring. It is plenty loud and no drone. Track is a bit louder and has alot of drone.
@@mjradik I drove a friends C8 with this system and it was insanely loud to the point of giving me a headache. Am I correct to assume that was the track system? On a scale of 1-10, how much different is the touring system from factory exhaust? I cannot stand the performance exhaust on my car as I hear the engine more than the exhaust 90% of the time driving around town.
interesting that it was faster 0-60 with the stock exhaust.
Thats more my driving. The exhaust only adds about 20 HP total, so it wouldn't have much effect on 0-60 times. Maybe .1 seconds, if that, which the driver and easily mess up, lol.
Paragon's is more throaty sounding
sounds worse than stock
everyone has their own preferences and tastes, and allowed to have their own opinion. Sure, this is not everyone's cup of tea.