Infinity Battle Report - Dashat Company vs USARF (Supply Raid)
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Armies: Dashat Company vs USAriadna Ranger Force
Scenario: Supply Raid (drive.google.c...)
Today we're trying out Dashat Company making some use of the Holoprojector special rule (using a Lu Duan pretending to be some Kum riders), facing off against the USAriadna Ranger Force. The scenario for today is Supply Raid, a fantastic custom scenario being played at Burn City Brawl, which is coming up on 7th and 8th September in Melbourne, Australia. You can find the rules for Supply Raid here: drive.google.com/file/d/1wE6Vs43MiwCFCKgphOPbTLlTzD4q-2z0/view?usp=sharin
BAMS missions are great fun, we've been playing them all summer
Slight difference for BCB. We are going with the somewhat original version of this mission posted in the LoL mission pack. While we appreciate TDA including it in BAMS, we felt giving the Master Breacher Specialist Operative was a little too good (on TAGs for example) so didn’t include that. We have also included QAZ creatures to make it slightly harder to just boop buttons
Oh no! No Surprise-Kum in your face
My understanding is that holoprojector mainly works as mine remover and surprise attack bonus provider. Occasionally, because it automagically comes back in the state phase can be leveraged to get in suppressive with good los without triggering AROs
Yup, exactly that.
Thank for trying! I was really hoping that there is something i'm missing with Holoprojector but from what i hear it is just as i expected. It is really bad :P
Maybe this is somrthing they will work on in N5
I do wonder if they'll roll it into decoy in some way.
(Decoy isn't a *great* skill but it's also cheap and it does what it needs to.)
That sounds like a nice udea of using holo. But if Im not missing anything it is illegal, bikers have to declare if they keep Impetuous or loose it for cover, and Lu Duan can't fake that part.
I did consider this and made sure to tell my opponent that each biker was not impetuous, but reading the specific biker rules you're referencing I agree it's very borderline and probably something I'd avoid during an event. Mind you, I'd also avoid taking Holoprojector to an event, so...
The Lu Dan is the single best self-contained "anti castle defense" unit in the game. If you are going against a core-linked Grenzer sniper, Kamau sniper, or Zhaeydan sniper/ML that you can't smoke out, you declare move with the Lu Dan. (If against an ML, obviously trying not to let all 3 echoes get caught by the same template). They hold. Then you move again. If they shoot, then they have a 2/3rds chance of selecting WRONG, at which case you either take an unopposed shot at a single wound, low armor model, or you just move again. If they hold... you move, and you're rapidly bring a burst 2 HFT to bear against a link of single-wound troopers.
If they shoot the correct model/ you whiff, oh well, you're out 20 points and 1-2 orders on a chance to take out a linchpin of their defense. Worse things can happen in a game.
But you can also coordinate a model with holoechoes... so after a single order of movement, you could even coordinate the Lu Dan with some flash pulses, akrylats, etc, to really improve your chances even further.
The ayyar can do similarly gross things by bringing a zapper to bear if you want to shut down a TAG and your barids have gotten killed
@frankwashburn6680 all of this is predicated on a non-layered defence. But if your opponent is *only* defending with a single element, or you're able to manevoer to position to avoid contact with any layered elements (hacking, forward positioned templates, mines, skirmishers, secondary hard AROs like picket flash pulses etc) it's a very strong use of the equipment. A Lu duan does it better than an Ayyar I think for the reasons you've listed in combination with its much higher speed.
@@R0bertShepherd sure, but dashat, vanilla YJ, and ISS are all quite capable of picking through/smoking out that layered defense quite easily. The Libertos/Kum assault can smoke and get through what they need to and can, and then you can send the Lu Dan afterwards. Failing that, using holoechoes as a free mine exploder is also literally risk free, at the cost of a short move, which is otherwise an ability that exists only in one other unit in the entire game - the cadmus airdropping a decoy
At the end of the day, the Lu Dan is a single unit package that feasibly CAN hard-nuke a grenzer or kamau core sniper, which is not an engagement that you really want to take with anything else, and putting down a castle defense like that early can really put the enemy on the
back foot
@@R0bertShepherd Furthermore, the combination of holomask and holoecho means that you can very readily feint the Lu dan in deployment phase - disguise it as a single, weaponless EVO in baggage range of an akrylat or pfaust source, and then spend an order to up the holoechoes and the march directly across the table to an enemy core link that counter-deployed a visible threat you projected in the DZ
@@frankwashburn6680 if I have Kum and Libertos making an attack run into a layered defence, a Lu Duan can safely be described as *extremely* vestigial.
Edit: actually, 'extremely' is probably a bit unfair. I have plenty of troops in Dashat that can assault a position like this especially if the table is set up well, but the table isn't always set up well at events, and there's only so many irregulars I can take before the list gets unwieldy. So while I don't think a Lu Duan is necessary in many lists, it costs no SWC, generates a regular order and has a B2 Flamethrower. It's firmly in 'could be worse, might pay off big' territory. There's space for pieces like that in many lists.
Nice batrep! Would love to hear your take on n5. Do you think we will finally see the GML nerf? Or will Steel Phalanx players still have room to complain?
I very much expect some changes to Guided, yes. I'm not sure how severe they'll be, but definitely something.