I semi-onetrick DW in Diamond, and from my experience there are some hard win (Rexxar, Dehaka,...) and some hard loss (Artanis, Rag,...) matchups in sololane. I usually stay in melee form the whole game except for the hard loss matchups , Leo is neither of those I think though, while you still usually don't win, you can just stay back and try to bait him into using W and if you dodge it, you can usually go in and start using W, E and AAs to do dmg and heal and do that until his W is off cooldown. In that form I also rarely use Q in lane, except you are behind the wall and minions are on it as you can waveclear after you hit 2-3 Ws with the Lvl4 talent as well. In the hard loss matchups I usually just stay back, go full Q talents and try not to give stacks (if they are stacking) and minimize wall damage and focus on maximizing teamfights. Another thing I usually do if I got too low in HP is fountain and instantly go into the air as it reduces your time off the map siginifcantly. I also rarely use Firestorm at level 7, as it means you have to land on the opponent directly which usually asks for a Tychus, Ming or Leoric to shred 20-30% of your HP instantly, though Firestorm does work well if you can time it with a specific skill cooldown that's troublesome or there is nothing to be too bursty in the first place. With skyfall you can poke and delay cap-objectives for free for pretty long and again reduce time in the air and off the map by healing faster. If you think you will stay in ranged mode mostly, I would generally pick a different talenbuild entirely (full Q), as the talents you chose are mostly pretty weak in World Breaker form. My 2 cents 😄
As a melee DW, do you pick n°2 talent at level 1? I almost always do, unless full Q build. I think it's the best one for survivability, at least for my game style (but maybe I'm playing him wrong?!)
@@0Sybylle0 I personally never go 2nd tbh, 90% of the time I go 1 for melee build as it improves damageoutput in teamfights as well, very rarely 3 to reduce weakness to burst. But my level 1 and 4 talents actually have the lowest winrate on heroesprofile, so just play what you are comfortable with.
Of course it's possible to love more than 1 game. I play Guilty Gear and HotS constantly for years, and also any other game I'm currently going through
You really should do this intro every 5 videos for a good few weeks. It took me too long to find out about your HotS channel even though I almost watch no one else regularly.
I like it a lot, mostly using him against structures. I go for the second talent at level 1 almost all the time. Q build is good if you have many melee opponents and some cc on your side.
Since he is a little bit hard to get used too, I'd say people dont like trying to get good on a niche hero but people that do get high win rate. The hero is really strong.
I always take n°2 at level 1 for survivability. Q build is nice too with some cc on your side, like a Johanna pour a Deckard. Not sure if you were joking about the no heal received, as it's a trait of DW ^^!
@@sinzies Well it's not like I've been following him for years (SC2 before HOTS) ^^ But sometimes he can keep so well his straight face while delivering a joke that it can be misleading :p At least my comment will be useful to wannabe DW players!
How du you use it? As soon as he gets damage his CD goes to 5sec or not? can you just holt Y during landing or have you to hammer this button 20 times a second to dont geht damage till it is starting?
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I semi-onetrick DW in Diamond, and from my experience there are some hard win (Rexxar, Dehaka,...) and some hard loss (Artanis, Rag,...) matchups in sololane. I usually stay in melee form the whole game except for the hard loss matchups , Leo is neither of those I think though, while you still usually don't win, you can just stay back and try to bait him into using W and if you dodge it, you can usually go in and start using W, E and AAs to do dmg and heal and do that until his W is off cooldown. In that form I also rarely use Q in lane, except you are behind the wall and minions are on it as you can waveclear after you hit 2-3 Ws with the Lvl4 talent as well.
In the hard loss matchups I usually just stay back, go full Q talents and try not to give stacks (if they are stacking) and minimize wall damage and focus on maximizing teamfights.
Another thing I usually do if I got too low in HP is fountain and instantly go into the air as it reduces your time off the map siginifcantly. I also rarely use Firestorm at level 7, as it means you have to land on the opponent directly which usually asks for a Tychus, Ming or Leoric to shred 20-30% of your HP instantly, though Firestorm does work well if you can time it with a specific skill cooldown that's troublesome or there is nothing to be too bursty in the first place. With skyfall you can poke and delay cap-objectives for free for pretty long and again reduce time in the air and off the map by healing faster.
If you think you will stay in ranged mode mostly, I would generally pick a different talenbuild entirely (full Q), as the talents you chose are mostly pretty weak in World Breaker form.
My 2 cents 😄
Awesome, thanks!
As a melee DW, do you pick n°2 talent at level 1?
I almost always do, unless full Q build.
I think it's the best one for survivability, at least for my game style (but maybe I'm playing him wrong?!)
@@0Sybylle0 I personally never go 2nd tbh, 90% of the time I go 1 for melee build as it improves damageoutput in teamfights as well, very rarely 3 to reduce weakness to burst. But my level 1 and 4 talents actually have the lowest winrate on heroesprofile, so just play what you are comfortable with.
Absolutely love it ! It must be so fun to use with the lvl 20 too. Gonna try this right away
Love a good Deathwing game
Yo that diablo 2 ost at the beginning was fire. Now I wish that we had Druid in Hots, how cool would be that?
Deathwing is always a great time! 🐲
Of course it's possible to love more than 1 game. I play Guilty Gear and HotS constantly for years, and also any other game I'm currently going through
At 10:30 you were carrying the team. Forced disengaged with fear, triple stuns and you even did insane amounts of poke damage.
Got to love all the channels!
Only way to go!
Love your HOTS content, hopefully the game gets some love, new content and return players soon. Have you played with Fan before?
Only in Fortnite ;)
You really should do this intro every 5 videos for a good few weeks. It took me too long to find out about your HotS channel even though I almost watch no one else regularly.
Is Death Wing good? He has a high win rate but never seems to do much.
I like it a lot, mostly using him against structures.
I go for the second talent at level 1 almost all the time.
Q build is good if you have many melee opponents and some cc on your side.
Since he is a little bit hard to get used too, I'd say people dont like trying to get good on a niche hero but people that do get high win rate. The hero is really strong.
I always take n°2 at level 1 for survivability.
Q build is nice too with some cc on your side, like a Johanna pour a Deckard.
Not sure if you were joking about the no heal received, as it's a trait of DW ^^!
You should watch a few Grubby streams, he's usually making jokes like this :)
@@sinzies Well it's not like I've been following him for years (SC2 before HOTS) ^^
But sometimes he can keep so well his straight face while delivering a joke that it can be misleading :p
At least my comment will be useful to wannabe DW players!
@@0Sybylle0 sometimes we miss stuff even with people closest to us.
Is useful for me already as I know nothing about DW. So it worked there.
How du you use it? As soon as he gets damage his CD goes to 5sec or not? can you just holt Y during landing or have you to hammer this button 20 times a second to dont geht damage till it is starting?
There is a 3 seconds cooldown before you can a either after receiving our dealing damage.
However when z is initiated it can't be interrupted.
16:28 LFG
hey grubby have you stopped playing wc3 and aoe4?
So around 8 minutes in, Leo is using his W, but the channel isn't being cancelled by DW's stun. Why?
Ok that’s actually hilarious
Grubby. You play AOE
Yep! Here's my channel: th-cam.com/users/GrubbyAOE