Yes I must say guys back in the last 90s and early 2000s. We use to love the wild 100s. Chill raise a family have fun. The last time. I was that deep in Riverdale,was 2004. Never looked that way. Smfh.
I grew up in those townhouses over 50 years ago in the 70s. It was a great place to grow up. Had so many friends and everything was so close by. You drove past a playground and that used to be a pool that we went to every summer. I looked up my school, Patton school, and it's still there. Unfortunately you drove past the place that my house used to be- 13702 Parnell. Looks like it was demolished. I wish they would fix those up again. It was affordable housing for people who could not manage a stand alone house. I remember a big Drive-In at the corner of 138th and Halsted. I think there was also a Dog and Suds there.
Us black folks can tear up some neighborhoods ....You can drive through a neighborhoods without seeing people and still can easily tell what group stays there ...
Or how about the city does nothing to fix this place up. Half of Riverdale is in Chicago but you be tits up trying to get the city to come out and clean up the area. Also they put all them trains in the black neighborhood on purpose.
Right ! Why go straight to the pacesetters? 💀 I’ve lived in riverdale for 8 years and everywhere beside school street and what he’s showing is beautiful!
My aunt and uncle had a house in Riverdale many years ago. My aunt also had a beauty shop there. I enjoyed visiting them in the summer because it was so much nicer and cleaner than the neighborhood that I grew up in on the near west side of Cleveland. The people of Riverdale took so much pride in keeping their yards and house looking good. It sure has changed over the years. It’s sad.
I had an Uncle that lived in Riverdale back in the 60's and 70's. It was beautiful back then (from what I could remember). I can't believe how much it has deteriorated.....
Deterioration is from the demographics shift from one group to another. All the Irish, Polish and other ethnics that built Riverdale moved out to the outer suburbs. The group that replaced the ethnics couldn't maintain Riverdale's infrastructure.
@LowIQ_Anthony Yeah, because communism produces such great results, just look at Venezuela or Cuba. Great infrastructure, no ghettos, yeah, capitalism bad...... you chose an accurate name there dude.
It’s crazy from how nice the area probably looked years ago to how it looks now. It’s like progress for an entire generation is going backwards instead of forward.
Welcome to the slum of the 21st century. At this point the neighborhoods built between, say, the 1890s and the 1930s have either been gentrified or demolished. The early postwar suburbs are actually now probably the least desirable real estate out there. Definitely the same thing is happening in other cities too.
You are so very right. Areas with houses built in the 50s and 60s are becoming ghetto quick. Esp the ranch houses. Nearly every city or mid-sized town in my region has seen the suburbs slip fast. In 10-15 years these areas will be as bad if not worse than the inner city hoods.
@@WN_Byers Montbello is surprsingly awful. Similar 1970s-era neighborhoods in Aurora are not nearly as bad. Im guessing that's where all the inner city hoods moved to after Denver became a ritzy city.
Yea these so called suburbs have some pretty bad slums this is a good example of that also not just the old suburbs the newer ones to if you have ever heard of Cary Witch is a fancy suburb of Raleigh most of it is luxurious but if you head south your in the slum trailer park area and the rundown hotel that turned into a place that people live in long term renting out rooms and the place looks fallen apart big time
Nope that's where you're wrong this was a beautiful community over 30 years ago it had nothing to do with section 8 and right now those homes wouldn't even qualify
When you find out how many section 8 vouchers are down town Chicago you'll stop think that. Poor blacks are not the #1 voucher holders. Think Think Think if you had a voucher would you stay there?
This is why you should be afraid of Section 8 free housing. It seems like a good idea at first, but it just condemns certain people to live away from the rest of America. Locals and tourists won't go there, so businesses stay out too.
Section 8 people can’t afford to maintain the homes and they always 100% fall I to disrepair like this. Damn sad too because those looked like they were beautiful back in the day.
You guys are crazy why blame the tenant that doesn’t own it. I have no idea what happened here but I’m 100 percent sure it was drugs. Lots of people with jobs have section 8 because here in America you can’t pay rent from having 1 job. Stop stereotyping
I Remember as a Kid i Would Go Out To Riverdale and i lived in The City ..Riverdale, Illinois Used to Be So Beautiful Until they Moved the ppl From the projects Out there Now its Crime, boarded up Houses, Shootings all types of Shit etc.
I never grew up in the city but I 100% don't understand the whole standing in the middle of the road like a zombie then slowly shuffling off in search of brains.
People usually stand in the street to communicate to each other so they're not blocking the sidewalk so people that are walking can get past them or children that are playing or riding bikes can ride freely. It's a form of respect.
I am far from slow. It is just something that some people do here. The sidewalk is then free for pedestrian s to walk freely and for children to play and ride their bikes as helps to keep the kids from running out into the streets. It is not something that I do but I pass no judgement on those that do.
I remember back in the late 70s I worked on trucks just down the street from the bridge at the beginning, back then there was a big drive in movie screen , sims motor freight had green trucks hauling steel up and down 137th and the houses all were clean and mowed ! My how times changed!
I am 43 now, my parents and I lived there until I was 6 years old, then in 1984 we moved to Chicago Heights. We lived on Wallace Court (CharlieBo313 passed our old house at 4:25, the brown house with the cars in front of it. ). It is sad to see how run down the place is, especially remembering the old neighborhood when we lived there. The houses that were next to ours are completely gone, sad to see this!
Used to take the IC train through Riverdale every week back in the 90’s early 2000s as a kid. I’d come from University Park. The suburbs in that area like Harvey were never very good but others like Homewood were ok. I haven’t been out there in 17/18 years so i don’t know what it’s like now but if this is any indication then it’s sad.
Riverdale has changed a lot damn I remember going to the chi almost every summer as a kid and stay with my family in Riverdale, Harvey! Had a lot of fun going to the taste of Chicago as a kid!
The subdivision you're driving through was once known as _"Pacesetter Village" (or Plaza),_ and it was built sometime in the late 50s or early 60s.. I don't know what they're calling it these days... Like, WHOA! This is what it is now? I dated a chick that lived there back in the early 80s during the years I still resided in Chitown Metro... It was never considered as "upscale luxury" even then, but still a different place than what it looks like now! It was once a very nice place to live and safely raise a family! These were once all individually owned townhomes, and there was also an HOA residents payed a monthly fee to for the upkeep of the building exteriors, grounds, and the playgrounds, clubhouse, and pool (the latter three at 2:50 and 6:40)...I'm sure that's all long since changed (and long gone) by now! Hadn't been to this, nor Riverdale itself since way back then...Sad to see what it has become...
Most Suburban hood to exist. Riverdale, Harvey, Dixmoor, Posen, Cal City, Dolton. Most of the South Suburbs are hood af, except for South Holland, Hazel Crest, Lansing, Homewood, Flossmoor, Glenwood, and Lynwood are kind of bougie, middle class and upscale black communities though. When all of the factory jobs left, majority of the original residents of these towns moved to suburbs like Orland Park, Tinley Park, Frankfort, Mokena, Bolingbrook, and then all of the Chicago residents moved to the South Suburbs, and then they left, and then the government bought out these buildings and brought the negative people to come and turn the place upside down.
They were initially built for the steel mill (changed names a couple of times- Acme Steel, Interlake, back to Acme, ISG, etc.) that is within walking distance from these homes (one building-large corrugated steel, light in color could be seen in the background, on the left, before CB makes a right turn) Sadly there is a lot of this town that used to be great. A broasted chicken place that was better than anywhere else (five minutes from where this was filmed) sadly closed. A go kart track and a 24 diner, are others that come to mind. I do a side job down the street from these. Luckily being armed is a requirement.
@CharlieBo313 you should drive thru Chicago heights and ford heights next. Eastside of Chicago heights and all of Ford heights. Both are right next to each other
Ah the corruption and decay of my beloved Cook, County. Such a positive reflection of all that Hope and Change! J.B. Porkchop, the billionaire governor of Illinois, has done little do combat this problem. Ignoring the skyrocketing cost of living and falling wages in this county and state has been a failure of "elected officials," for decades. Why exactly is Obama so popular here again?
I lived in Riverdale when I was a kid and it used to be such a nice looking city. I hadn't been through there in a while and I didn't know it looked so destitute and abandoned.
You must have grew up there in my era or a little earlier, Andy’s was my favorite restaurant, now I don’t even want to risk it to get some fries from there 🤣
I saw a sign that said "speed bump" lol the whole street is a speed bump lol And that cat at the end was on a mission. No truck running him over was going to stop him from running after whatever it saw lol even the animals have opps lol
Great coverage. I remember as a kid enjoying going to the mall out there. You should do parts of Rogers Park. Go down the streets by Howard train station, especially at night.
wow this town brings back memories, i lived here for 8 months in the 90's, cost of leaving is reasonable but i met a woman and she dragged me to california
I grew up in Pacesetter is was the best place ever. Everyone who knew each other and looked out for one another. It is a shame what has happened to a place I loved as a child.
I remember in the 60's what a great neighborhood this was. My first thought watching the video was, who would let this area turn into this? It soon became apparent.
I once lived in Riverdale as a teenager back in the late 80's. Transferred from CVS to Thornton Township and left Chicago in 1991. Riverdale was a really nice place back then. The 138th street park was where we would hang out. Had a few fights, walked the railroad tracks, made a lot of friends, bought eats from Andys on 144th or Jacks on 138th, and had a good time. Living in the Mid-Atlantic area now but I get back to Chicago periodically. Riverdale looks sad, dangerous and depressed now. 😔
As one commenter said and I agree, there are much nicer sections of Riverdale than what were shown. My family and I lived in the Ivanhoe section of Riverdale for years, and that area still looks nice.
I would agree. Pacesetter was always on the verge of getting worse and it did. I will say though without a doubt alot of black people who moved into pacesetter where good people. I had friends who were black. But there were far too many bad ones who had little to no respect for Pacesetter. They would invite friends & family over from the southside of Chicago and things got bad. The crime went up and there was a bit of racism on both sides. White, Latinos & Black people who weren't going to deal with it couldn't wait to get out of there. It's in Shambles like it's a 3rd world country. I just left from Jamaica and this is no better. I will say as a Baby Until 18 we had to move from place to place.. first on the southside of Chicago ( Pullman & Roseland ) then to the suburbs ( Riverdale and Dolton ) which always got progressively worse. We could only afford to move just a little south and again we would have to move because of the crime. You can agree or disagree, but it's my life experience. It sad when you can't risk bringing your kids or your wife where you once had these awesome memories and even some bad ones. It's where we started to grow as people.
Will somebody PLEASE tell me how neighborhoods that were at one time nice turn into THIS? Where I live we have some suburbs that are beautiful and others that are a blankin' NIGHTMARE. WHY?
@@joestewart8914 kind of. The housing projects were filled with gangs and crime ridden so they tore them down in hopes of making the city a better place. What actually happened was the exact opposite. Gangs scattered across the city and into suburbs like this one.
@@Jski So that's what happens to a neighborhood. Somebody on the block gets greedy and starts taking Section 8 money. The renters that move in are Section 8 people, a.k.a. "criminals". This makes everything in that block worthless so other property owners have no choice than to also go Section 8 and eventually an entire suburb is lost.
this is sad no matter how you look at it, this area should have thrived. Where there no outreach programs for the Sections 8s? This country needs to help their community. When you know better you can do better! Healed people help heal people!
You should drive at the Taconic State Parkway in New York.It is one of the dangerous roads because of it's sharp turns.You drive basically through a mountain & driving on there is worse at night
My late auntie used to live in Riverdale in the late 70's to mid 80's it used to be real nice over there that's where everybody wanted to move to at the time now it's just the suburban ghetto for real next time go to Markham or Ford Heights
@@Woodgang147 exactly!! I live way out in the Western suburbs and we hang outside as much as possible and my neighborhood is beautiful. I refuse to be in the house in the summer.
Used to live in my aunt house here in riverdale 3 years ago ,,the only thing sound I remember I hear every night is a loud rap music and pop pop pop pop pop pop
Kind of looks primed for discount investment. Are there development or corridor, crowd funding opportunities etc? What are the taxes like? What's the market value looking like on those properties?
i grew up in dolton so i know riverdale used to iceskate at ivanhoe park when they would flood it get haircuts at byrds joint remember the ben franklin riverdale park behind the hi and low geez 144th street man
I work there in the railyard. Honestly I've never had any problems there but it's like anything, as long as you mind your own business and treat everyone with respect you'll be fine 99% of the time but you always keep a eye out but that's life in general
You went through the same streets more than once. Why didn't you go down Lowe Ave. ? It's one block over from Wallace. I believe it looks decent there.
@@williemoore756 the one thing you dont understand is that Lowe ave is in Pacesetter. It's in the Square. He drove down every street and cut Lowe ave out. No doubt it's still upside down there.
@@jackjordan387 You don't seem to follow. The point of the channel is to show inner city run down and dilapidated areas. That's what people come here for and want to see. I can't make it any clearer.
@@Baja2424 I Grew up their from 60's to 80's, yes there were alot of white people there ;) my family had many years of lineage in Riverdale, ever since the middle to late 80's and Riverdale was a good town to raise a family. Makes me want to cry how they let that town go as I use to work at the park district and took care of many of them fields, but hey thats what the government wanted, to demolish the projects and give vouchers for section 8............... and then bam, Government got what they wanted ;) They just let the people do the rest ;) ....wake up, their still trying to push ppl out of chicago so they can make their conglomerate city....... but I know you were just being sarcastic...... but back in the day.... no one messed with pacesetter til the feds came in ;)
Looks like he was in the pacesetters use to hang there in the 90s.. remember the drive in that closed down. My best friend use to live next to a club called Jimmy's on Indiana. I'm from harvey right next door 💯
I lived in Harvey from 1959 to 1972. The House that I lived in during that time I have discovered is empty and looks like it has been for a while.😐 It took them long enough to tear down Dixie Square, lol...I remember going to DS when I was a Youngster. I had a Paternal Uncle that lived in Riverdale during the 60's and 70's.
I have neighbor nice guy moved from the north side of Chicago to our small town we have an empty lot that the owners do maintain but on garbage days some gets blown into the lot. My neighbor always looks at me in disbelief when I pick up the lot insists someone else should do the job. I just look at him and say there is no one else. Just the mentality between city people and small town people.
It is on the owner of the house to take care of it, if my house starts deteriorating no ones helping me either. Looks like the community that moved there has no pride in where they live and thats a shame because it looks ten times nicer than Watts lol
The Midwest seems like the worst place to live in America. Yeah I won’t lie the northeast has some serious blight almost like this but still... there seems to be so much of this decay in the Midwest and it seems like it’s only getting worst atleast the northeast is improving and renovations are becoming a daily thing- same with the rest of the country south, west all seem to be improving aesthetically just not the mid west.
Home and realestate values will plummet, eventually some lucky speculators will get a hold of the cheap blighted neighborhoods, they will gentrification the hood and get dirty filthy stinking rich. It is a cyclical process that takes decades. Remember politician's of both parties love to manipulate a population base that is dependent on subsidies and substances.
@@klassikkeyz7881 The Great Lakes are beutiful coastlines. Gary Indiana for instance has beutiful white sand beaches. Look up the Gary Indiana Dunes on lake Michigan. Gary just has a stigma and has been segregated and had internal battles due to corruption and the loss of a paying working class tax Base due to a lake of industry. Did u know you can take the commuter rail from Gary to Chicago in less than a half hour?. The biggest issue is politics that are designed to keep people segregated and dependent on subsidies in certain Hoods. Lack of education
Thank you Charlie for going out there and documenting these communities
im confused, who's responsable for urban maintenance in the US ? why the roads are so bad ?
Looks like every other house is boarded up, Probably was beautiful in it's day.
I was thinking the same, was a nice area once.
It was a nice area and a safe place you could raise a family. Now it’s crime ridden
@@SpiritDonkey yep it’s real bad there
Yes I must say guys back in the last 90s and early 2000s. We use to love the wild 100s. Chill raise a family have fun. The last time. I was that deep in Riverdale,was 2004. Never looked that way. Smfh.
@@Baja2424 Who and what made it Like this ??????
*Get this man a bulletproof windshield sponsorship ASAP* The real TH-camr 💰💰
he deserves a sponsorship but i wouldn't recommend to drive through hoods with tinted windows 😂
Praying from Dolton God loves us Still the "Last shall be first and the First Last"
This happened when they demolished the projects and all the tenants are spread out all over the city
Exactly
Riverdale was trash well before that
Truth sir
So true!!!!
Yep 👍
I grew up in those townhouses over 50 years ago in the 70s. It was a great place to grow up. Had so many friends and everything was so close by. You drove past a playground and that used to be a pool that we went to every summer. I looked up my school, Patton school, and it's still there. Unfortunately you drove past the place that my house used to be- 13702 Parnell. Looks like it was demolished. I wish they would fix those up again. It was affordable housing for people who could not manage a stand alone house. I remember a big Drive-In at the corner of 138th and Halsted. I think there was also a Dog and Suds there.
Us black folks can tear up some neighborhoods ....You can drive through a neighborhoods without seeing people and still can easily tell what group stays there ...
Fax can say the same about my peoples sadly
Absolutely can !
Aint it the truth🤷...
Facts
Or how about the city does nothing to fix this place up. Half of Riverdale is in Chicago but you be tits up trying to get the city to come out and clean up the area. Also they put all them trains in the black neighborhood on purpose.
These places used to be thriving communities, probably a good decent place decades ago.
Covid 19 is only our 3rd problem..........
Facts
So very true
It borders chicago. When the city tore down lots of project developments the people were given vouchers and moved to areas like Riverdale.
This is the oldest part of Riverdale.
Go to the Ivanhoe section. It’s still nice!!
Lawns and property kept up nicely.
Yeah my boy stayed right by Ivanhoe park by the metra tracks
Right ! Why go straight to the pacesetters? 💀 I’ve lived in riverdale for 8 years and everywhere beside school street and what he’s showing is beautiful!
Are those row houses public housing
Its just like why he doesn't drive around the north side of Chicago, thats not the purpose of his channel
Yes, the Ivanhoe section of Riverdale is much nicer. My family and I lived in that area for years.
My aunt and uncle had a house in Riverdale many years ago. My aunt also had a beauty shop there. I enjoyed visiting them in the summer because it was so much nicer and cleaner than the neighborhood that I grew up in on the near west side of Cleveland. The people of Riverdale took so much pride in keeping their yards and house looking good. It sure has changed over the years. It’s sad.
Yea crack hit remember. 60s - 90s was hell for our neighborhoods. Before that 1900s-30s we were being killed by the government and the citizens.
I’m from Cleveland what part on the west you grew up on ?
This is misleading. It's literally focusing on one area of the village.
When white people left
I had an Uncle that lived in Riverdale back in the 60's and 70's.
It was beautiful back then (from what I could remember).
I can't believe how much it has deteriorated.....
Deterioration is from the demographics shift from one group to another. All the Irish, Polish and other ethnics that built Riverdale moved out to the outer suburbs. The group that replaced the ethnics couldn't maintain Riverdale's infrastructure.
@LowIQ_Anthony Yeah, because communism produces such great results, just look at Venezuela or Cuba. Great infrastructure, no ghettos, yeah, capitalism bad...... you chose an accurate name there dude.
@LowIQ_Anthony do you seriously believe ghettos only exist in Capitalist societies???? You’re unbelievably ignorant if so
Harvey too
It’s crazy from how nice the area probably looked years ago to how it looks now. It’s like progress for an entire generation is going backwards instead of forward.
That's so ghetto that even the ghetto people said I'm out.
Nothing compared to Gary
@@angelbanks264 true
This is Malibu for a big part of the people around the globe ( Philippines, Thailand, Africa , South America…) electricity and water is a luxury
When you're lost in a slightly sketchy part of town and see this dude drive by:
*Chuckles*
I'm in danger
Welcome to the slum of the 21st century. At this point the neighborhoods built between, say, the 1890s and the 1930s have either been gentrified or demolished. The early postwar suburbs are actually now probably the least desirable real estate out there. Definitely the same thing is happening in other cities too.
You are so very right. Areas with houses built in the 50s and 60s are becoming ghetto quick. Esp the ranch houses. Nearly every city or mid-sized town in my region has seen the suburbs slip fast. In 10-15 years these areas will be as bad if not worse than the inner city hoods.
In Denver, those ranch homes are going for half a million dollars. In every hood
Neighborhood* we really dont have anymore hoods
@@WN_Byers
Montbello is surprsingly awful. Similar 1970s-era neighborhoods in Aurora are not nearly as bad.
Im guessing that's where all the inner city hoods moved to after Denver became a ritzy city.
Yea these so called suburbs have some pretty bad slums this is a good example of that also not just the old suburbs the newer ones to if you have ever heard of Cary Witch is a fancy suburb of Raleigh most of it is luxurious but if you head south your in the slum trailer park area and the rundown hotel that turned into a place that people live in long term renting out rooms and the place looks fallen apart big time
Looks like a place where section 8 thrived but actually ended the area!!
A very astute observation, sir. And hey, thanks for killing all those terminators for us.
@@MsAlliwannadoisdance HAHA
I thought the same, exact thing.
Nope that's where you're wrong this was a beautiful community over 30 years ago it had nothing to do with section 8 and right now those homes wouldn't even qualify
When you find out how many section 8 vouchers are down town Chicago you'll stop think that. Poor blacks are not the #1 voucher holders. Think Think Think if you had a voucher would you stay there?
This is why you should be afraid of Section 8 free housing. It seems like a good idea at first, but it just condemns certain people to live away from the rest of America. Locals and tourists won't go there, so businesses stay out too.
If you want to destroy a city bring in the section 8 cockroaches lol
Section 8 people can’t afford to maintain the homes and they always 100% fall I to disrepair like this. Damn sad too because those looked like they were beautiful back in the day.
Build taller and allocate money for repairs
You guys are crazy why blame the tenant that doesn’t own it. I have no idea what happened here but I’m 100 percent sure it was drugs. Lots of people with jobs have section 8 because here in America you can’t pay rent from having 1 job. Stop stereotyping
@@sickboysikotic do you live here?? Are you from Chicago?? I am....he said what he said and hes 100% correct.
My cousin use to live in the townhouse and they were nice when she moved in. Then CHA brought the hood people on Section8 in Riverdale.
Just curious...what's CHA?
Chicago housing authority
It looks like a small village of projects.
@@marcuswilson8422
I thought they were No More around the Turn of the Century?
@@jaydave1246 Corrupt Housing Authority
This is how all the “suburbs” are gonna look now that there gentrifying every city
I Remember as a Kid i Would Go Out To Riverdale and i lived in The City ..Riverdale, Illinois Used to Be So Beautiful Until they Moved the ppl From the projects Out there Now its Crime, boarded up Houses, Shootings all types of Shit etc.
That's the American way....
Those townhouses , my parents moved us out when I was 6. But I'm still in Riverdale everyday working
It’s bad out there
Stay safe
Sorry to hear that ...
Dang bro
Grind hard bruh💚
Dang looks like it was a nice suburban neighborhood at one time
I never grew up in the city but I 100% don't understand the whole standing in the middle of the road like a zombie then slowly shuffling off in search of brains.
This is in the suburbs though
People usually stand in the street to communicate to each other so they're not blocking the sidewalk so people that are walking can get past them or children that are playing or riding bikes can ride freely. It's a form of respect.
@@shitwalkerog1776 what does that have to do with anything? Does that make it better to stand in the street? slow ass lol
@@lisavilanova1184 slowest person ever
I am far from slow. It is just something that some people do here. The sidewalk is then free for pedestrian s to walk freely and for children to play and ride their bikes as helps to keep the kids from running out into the streets. It is not something that I do but I pass no judgement on those that do.
Yea, one can imagine a much nicer place back in the day....very depressing. CB is one brave muchacho!
He from Detroit 🤷🏾♂️ you not scared of much coming from this city lol
I remember back in the late 70s I worked on trucks just down the street from the bridge at the beginning, back then there was a big drive in movie screen , sims motor freight had green trucks hauling steel up and down 137th and the houses all were clean and mowed ! My how times changed!
Yes I remember the old drive in 😃
You should do Robbins . It’s nearby
This is nation wide- places like this everywhere. Literally
But why
@@Cruzer871 Everything cant be perfect. That's why.
Eric, for bettet or worse impovershed people dont take pride in themselves, let alone their homes or neighborhoods. For 30+ years
This is "affordable housing" Politicians are pushing for it until it turns into this.
I am 43 now, my parents and I lived there until I was 6 years old, then in 1984 we moved to Chicago Heights. We lived on Wallace Court (CharlieBo313 passed our old house at 4:25, the brown house with the cars in front of it. ). It is sad to see how run down the place is, especially remembering the old neighborhood when we lived there. The houses that were next to ours are completely gone, sad to see this!
Lot of memories in the pacesetters 💯
Used to take the IC train through Riverdale every week back in the 90’s early 2000s as a kid. I’d come from University Park. The suburbs in that area like Harvey were never very good but others like Homewood were ok. I haven’t been out there in 17/18 years so i don’t know what it’s like now but if this is any indication then it’s sad.
University Park, Richton park are still ok and of course Homewood is great
J
@@patkarner8268 J? Huh?
Riverdale has changed a lot damn I remember going to the chi almost every summer as a kid and stay with my family in Riverdale, Harvey! Had a lot of fun going to the taste of Chicago as a kid!
The subdivision you're driving through was once known as _"Pacesetter Village" (or Plaza),_ and it was built sometime in the late 50s or early 60s.. I don't know what they're calling it these days... Like, WHOA! This is what it is now? I dated a chick that lived there back in the early 80s during the years I still resided in Chitown Metro... It was never considered as "upscale luxury" even then, but still a different place than what it looks like now! It was once a very nice place to live and safely raise a family! These were once all individually owned townhomes, and there was also an HOA residents payed a monthly fee to for the upkeep of the building exteriors, grounds, and the playgrounds, clubhouse, and pool (the latter three at 2:50 and 6:40)...I'm sure that's all long since changed (and long gone) by now! Hadn't been to this, nor Riverdale itself since way back then...Sad to see what it has become...
Good video, thanks.
There's some nice looking cars there!
Driving nice cars and living in a dump, go figure.
@@midway27272727 omm🤦🏽♂️
@@midway27272727 They don't have to pay rent, because the dump is section 8.
@@michelesmith2620 Yes, we are paying their rent.
Hey Charlie, if you had to pick. Riverdale, Dolton, or Harvey?
Haha none
Look on Google maps and go back 10 years. Looked a lot different
Most Suburban hood to exist. Riverdale, Harvey, Dixmoor, Posen, Cal City, Dolton. Most of the South Suburbs are hood af, except for South Holland, Hazel Crest, Lansing, Homewood, Flossmoor, Glenwood, and Lynwood are kind of bougie, middle class and upscale black communities though.
When all of the factory jobs left, majority of the original residents of these towns moved to suburbs like Orland Park, Tinley Park, Frankfort, Mokena, Bolingbrook, and then all of the Chicago residents moved to the South Suburbs, and then they left, and then the government bought out these buildings and brought the negative people to come and turn the place upside down.
yes. its not the race or ethnicity of the folks living there but the economic ability to keep the houses and neighborhood in good order.
@@jeffjay9350 It's section 8. It's not their houses and they are not paying rent either. What do you expect?
I bet these were gorgeous when they were first built. I’m sure they quickly went to shit smh
Those were ugly as hell shit boxes when new. Everyone who says these must have been beautiful must not know what nice housing looks like.
Not meant to withstand the test of time.
City has a place holder on this land, they will grab when the time is right.
They were initially built for the steel mill (changed names a couple of times- Acme Steel, Interlake, back to Acme, ISG, etc.) that is within walking distance from these homes (one building-large corrugated steel, light in color could be seen in the background, on the left, before CB makes a right turn)
Sadly there is a lot of this town that used to be great. A broasted chicken place that was better than anywhere else (five minutes from where this was filmed) sadly closed. A go kart track and a 24 diner, are others that come to mind. I do a side job down the street from these. Luckily being armed is a requirement.
Charlie
What kinda whip you driving these days? Lookin and sounding good. 👌
Sus
Kia soul
@CharlieBo313 you should drive thru Chicago heights and ford heights next. Eastside of Chicago heights and all of Ford heights. Both are right next to each other
You from there
@@Baja2424 No I'm from South Bend. I used to live in Chicago heights and Crete and over in Gary
Ok
It tells you a lot about the collective mentality of the people who live in these neighborhoods
I know right
Ah the corruption and decay of my beloved Cook, County. Such a positive reflection of all that Hope and Change! J.B. Porkchop, the billionaire governor of Illinois, has done little do combat this problem. Ignoring the skyrocketing cost of living and falling wages in this county and state has been a failure of "elected officials," for decades. Why exactly is Obama so popular here again?
I lived in Riverdale they still got nice houses
I lived in Riverdale when I was a kid and it used to be such a nice looking city. I hadn't been through there in a while and I didn't know it looked so destitute and abandoned.
You must have grew up there in my era or a little earlier, Andy’s was my favorite restaurant, now I don’t even want to risk it to get some fries from there 🤣
I grew up there as well!
Appreciate the awareness that you're making known
I saw a sign that said "speed bump" lol the whole street is a speed bump lol And that cat at the end was on a mission. No truck running him over was going to stop him from running after whatever it saw lol even the animals have opps lol
Actually the sign said "Speed Hump"
@@philbundy2923 lol it originally looked like that at 5:26 but I thought I was smoking too much so I paid it no mind lol
Thank You for Sharing this!!!
This is what I need to see.
Show me more areas like this!
Great coverage. I remember as a kid enjoying going to the mall out there. You should do parts of Rogers Park. Go down the streets by Howard train station, especially at night.
wow this town brings back memories, i lived here for 8 months in the 90's, cost of leaving is reasonable but i met a woman and she dragged me to california
Looks like a place where u have to learn to survive by any means necessary.
I had a friend Roy who lived there in the 80's he and I had a lot of good times together in his garage.
Can you do Robbins Illinois, just a little west of here.
I grew up in Pacesetter is was the best place ever. Everyone who knew each other and looked out for one another. It is a shame what has happened to a place I loved as a child.
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I remember in the 60's what a great neighborhood this was. My first thought watching the video was, who would let this area turn into this? It soon became apparent.
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@Sabra Cadabra It was a fun neighborhood. Not too special, but a great place for a kid to grow up.
Stupid question but does the neighborhood not have weekly trash pick up or something? Some of those trash cans look like it’s been sitting for weeks
I once lived in Riverdale as a teenager back in the late 80's. Transferred from CVS to Thornton Township and left Chicago in 1991.
Riverdale was a really nice place back then. The 138th street park was where we would hang out. Had a few fights, walked the railroad tracks, made a lot of friends, bought eats from Andys on 144th or Jacks on 138th, and had a good time.
Living in the Mid-Atlantic area now but I get back to Chicago periodically. Riverdale looks sad, dangerous and depressed now. 😔
Where's Archie and Veronica?
DEAD
Do you fly out then rent a car? Or are you driving everywhere?
He prolly drives everywhere
@c3h8O facts I actually wonder what his face looks like🤔
@@Adrian-so8ib I’m wondering how many miles are on that car lol
@c3h8O he might be getting paid from TH-cam but fr tho he need a about me vid lol
As one commenter said and I agree, there are much nicer sections of Riverdale than what were shown. My family and I lived in the Ivanhoe section of Riverdale for years, and that area still looks nice.
I would agree. Pacesetter was always on the verge of getting worse and it did. I will say though without a doubt alot of black people who moved into pacesetter where good people. I had friends who were black. But there were far too many bad ones who had little to no respect for Pacesetter. They would invite friends & family over from the southside of Chicago and things got bad. The crime went up and there was a bit of racism on both sides. White, Latinos & Black people who weren't going to deal with it couldn't wait to get out of there. It's in Shambles like it's a 3rd world country. I just left from Jamaica and this is no better. I will say as a Baby Until 18 we had to move from place to place.. first on the southside of Chicago ( Pullman & Roseland ) then to the suburbs ( Riverdale and Dolton ) which always got progressively worse. We could only afford to move just a little south and again we would have to move because of the crime. You can agree or disagree, but it's my life experience. It sad when you can't risk bringing your kids or your wife where you once had these awesome memories and even some bad ones. It's where we started to grow as people.
Illinois, Ohio and Michigan all look post-apocalyptic. What’s going on with the Midwest may I ask
I've never seen nowhere in Ohio as bad as this. You must live in palm springs?
@@latricer6686 I live in Texas actually. Ohio as a state is not as bad but East Cleveland is on its way.
Indiana too Gary and some parts of indianapolis
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Divestment...then gentrification and black relining to the suburbs and other states
how far is Riverdale from downtown Chicago, may I ask..
Under 30 minutes, if it's not rush hour
Will somebody PLEASE tell me how neighborhoods that were at one time nice turn into THIS?
Where I live we have some suburbs that are beautiful and others that are a blankin' NIGHTMARE.
WHY?
when housing projects in the city were torn down, they moved the people out here on section 8 vouchers.
@@Jski So that means the f'n federal government is trashing the whole country for everybody except the super-rich.
@@joestewart8914 kind of. The housing projects were filled with gangs and crime ridden so they tore them down in hopes of making the city a better place. What actually happened was the exact opposite. Gangs scattered across the city and into suburbs like this one.
@@Jski So that's what happens to a neighborhood. Somebody on the block gets greedy and starts taking Section 8 money. The renters that move in are Section 8 people, a.k.a. "criminals". This makes everything in that block worthless so other property owners have no choice than to also go Section 8 and eventually an entire suburb is lost.
Oppression
Apart from the fire hydrants and road signs, this could be the UK! We have a lot of housing like this, and roads with potholes!
Pacesetter homes were fun when I was kid I rode my bike all through those streets had a lot of friends lived their from patton school.
this is sad no matter how you look at it, this area should have thrived. Where there no outreach programs for the Sections 8s? This country needs to help their community. When you know better you can do better! Healed people help heal people!
You should drive at the Taconic State Parkway in New York.It is one of the dangerous roads because of it's sharp turns.You drive basically through a mountain & driving on there is worse at night
ooh so this must be the city that teen show every 14 year old girl is talking about is based on.....😂
@c3h8O Riverdale
@@stormgirl09 or riverdale Georgia. But it takes place in New York or something so
Naw that show has nothing to do with any real American town, it’s just a generic name they used.
I used to live in Riverdale in the early 90's it looked nothing like this😧
Hell back in the late 90's i did alot of work in that town and it was very nice then !! thanks
My late auntie used to live in Riverdale in the late 70's to mid 80's it used to be real nice over there that's where everybody wanted to move to at the time now it's just the suburban ghetto for real next time go to Markham or Ford Heights
@Blackhawk Chicago Heights
Chicago Heights
Hell yeah Chicago Heights is ghetto
Charlie, San Antonio misses you, please come back soon.
Why only in hood ass neighborhoods are people always just standing around in the street 🤔
@@PedroHenrique-sn4xt Can't grill ribs in the house.
They don’t nothing better to do lol definitely no job to worry about
TH-cam keeps dont posting and deleting my comments
@@PedroHenrique-sn4xt based
@@Woodgang147 exactly!! I live way out in the Western suburbs and we hang outside as much as possible and my neighborhood is beautiful. I refuse to be in the house in the summer.
That’s a SUBURB!!!?? Dayum!!
Yeppp
That aint the subs dawg... looks like a 3rd world shithole
@Man Lyke Marcus Compared to this Im living like a King. This is 3rd world homie
Used to live in my aunt house here in riverdale 3 years ago ,,the only thing sound I remember I hear every night is a loud rap music and pop pop pop pop pop pop
Kind of looks primed for discount investment. Are there development or corridor, crowd funding opportunities etc? What are the taxes like? What's the market value looking like on those properties?
😂 shit surrounded by shit. Good luck 😂😂
i grew up in dolton so i know riverdale used to iceskate at ivanhoe park when they would flood it
get haircuts at byrds joint remember the ben franklin riverdale park behind the hi and low geez
144th street man
Thats Ivanhoe, Ivanhoe is not Riverdale ;)
This used to be a great looking city blocks from Chicago in the 90's
I filmed this too. a lady who lives there said the owner is kind of losing it (his mind) and losing the homes to the bank.
I work there in the railyard. Honestly I've never had any problems there but it's like anything, as long as you mind your own business and treat everyone with respect you'll be fine 99% of the time but you always keep a eye out but that's life in general
CharlieBo was gunning for that cat at 8:24 🤣
Kitty had a death wish!
There was a dead black cat in the middle of the road at the very beginning.
Cars in the hood look more habitable. Makes sense gotta spend more on a depreciating asset to stay in the hood
@2:31 that was a normal working class house in a good neighborhood. Now it’s shit hole with no future plans to restore
I can't tell if this is chicago or the town riverdale because of the way charli titled the video is this the neighborhood or town
You went through the same streets more than once. Why didn't you go down Lowe Ave. ? It's one block over from Wallace. I believe it looks decent there.
We don't come here to see nice looking blocks. You're on the wrong channel.
@@williemoore756 the one thing you dont understand is that Lowe ave is in Pacesetter. It's in the Square. He drove down every street and cut Lowe ave out. No doubt
it's still upside down there.
@@jackjordan387 You don't seem to follow. The point of the channel is to show inner city run down and dilapidated areas. That's what people come here for and want to see. I can't make it any clearer.
Why did you pick that part of Riverdale? Why didn't you show the other part of this beautiful suburb? There are rought sides in every neighborhoods.
You're on the wrong channel. This channel shows run down hood areas.
What part of Riverdale is this? The area along 144th st near the metra train station is much nicer
He was in the pacesetters right off Halsted
Go to calumet park is like 2 - 3 minutes away
Who else saw that dude aiming a gun ha
@ 2:10
Dressed in black ?
OMG YES!!! 😳
@@scottdonaldson1973 Yep, he ain’t offering him a bite of his sausage.
Whatttt😭😭😭😭omg
The pacesetter lol I used to live there for a few years as a teen
White people once lived here..
And it actually looked nice... they left and it turned it this I wonder why lol
Because of the people that left
Yes, we know white people make everything better. It's the American way.
2:37 yo that TV is massive
Pothole-dale
This is horrible to see. I grew up visiting my grandparents who lived there for many years.
They have white peoples live there
@@Baja2424 most of these suburbs were white at one point. You still have a few sprinkled here n there, but the majority left.
@@Baja2424 I Grew up their from 60's to 80's, yes there were alot of white people there ;) my family had many years of lineage in Riverdale, ever since the middle to late 80's and Riverdale was a good town to raise a family. Makes me want to cry how they let that town go as I use to work at the park district and took care of many of them fields, but hey thats what the government wanted, to demolish the projects and give vouchers for section 8............... and then bam, Government got what they wanted ;) They just let the people do the rest ;) ....wake up, their still trying to push ppl out of chicago so they can make their conglomerate city....... but I know you were just being sarcastic...... but back in the day.... no one messed with pacesetter til the feds came in ;)
Was that guy holding a AR @ 2:11 ?
Still tippin!
I go to the church across the street. Those houses are an eye sore. Do you know why the taxes are so high?
Looks like he was in the pacesetters use to hang there in the 90s.. remember the drive in that closed down. My best friend use to live next to a club called Jimmy's on Indiana. I'm from harvey right next door 💯
I lived in Harvey from 1959 to 1972.
The House that I lived in during that time I have discovered is empty and looks like it has been for a while.😐
It took them long enough to tear down Dixie Square, lol...I remember going to DS when I was a Youngster.
I had a Paternal Uncle that lived in Riverdale during the 60's and 70's.
Jimmy's is still there! I went last month 🤣🤣
2:12 was that guy poiting a gun at the other dude or sumin bro
1:37 still tippin 🤘🏼
Why the baphomet horns?
I have neighbor nice guy moved from the north side of Chicago to our small town we have an empty lot that the owners do maintain but on garbage days some gets blown into the lot. My neighbor always looks at me in disbelief when I pick up the lot insists someone else should do the job. I just look at him and say there is no one else. Just the mentality between city people and small town people.
I lived in Riverdale for 16 years. It is showing its age. WOW!! The city really doesn't care about the poor neighborhoods.
It is on the owner of the house to take care of it, if my house starts deteriorating no ones helping me either. Looks like the community that moved there has no pride in where they live and thats a shame because it looks ten times nicer than Watts lol
The Midwest seems like the worst place to live in America. Yeah I won’t lie the northeast has some serious blight almost like this but still... there seems to be so much of this decay in the Midwest and it seems like it’s only getting worst atleast the northeast is improving and renovations are becoming a daily thing- same with the rest of the country south, west all seem to be improving aesthetically just not the mid west.
Home and realestate values will plummet, eventually some lucky speculators will get a hold of the cheap blighted neighborhoods, they will gentrification the hood and get dirty filthy stinking rich. It is a cyclical process that takes decades. Remember politician's of both parties love to manipulate a population base that is dependent on subsidies and substances.
@@owenbackus8876 it’s already happened in most the country so what’s stopping it from happening in the Midwest? The lack of an ocean coastline?
@@klassikkeyz7881 The Great Lakes are beutiful coastlines. Gary Indiana for instance has beutiful white sand beaches. Look up the Gary Indiana Dunes on lake Michigan. Gary just has a stigma and has been segregated and had internal battles due to corruption and the loss of a paying working class tax Base due to a lake of industry. Did u know you can take the commuter rail from Gary to Chicago in less than a half hour?. The biggest issue is politics that are designed to keep people segregated and dependent on subsidies in certain Hoods. Lack of education