I am.with Patrick. Serial optimism is just exhausting. Couples should be in the now as opposed to ignoring it whilst trying to make a future happen. The future is just a series of nows anyway.
This episode was it👏🏾👏🏾… Every relationship can come in chapters or phases as we grow through our teens, wild twenties and so forth trying to find who we are and also exploring new heights of just self. I don’t believe in soul mates but I do believe in good matches due to good chemistry turning into great relationships. There are just too many possibilities on this planet to have a soul mate. We evolve so much overtime in relationship but the key is growing together. Great episode 👍🏾
It makes sense that Persephanii's mom is hyper vigilant and she went into learning psychology. We want to understand our parents and the way they raised us.
I cant believe this is an actual question. Yes men grieve after breakups. Way harder than women do. Because they have less options than women and its harder to rebound
Being employed in the food industry and disliking my job is truly exhausting. I have not moved on from this job because it is difficult to find an employer who values your worth. I have been in this line of work for 8 years and the individuals in this industry are truly unpleasant. I have been making a conscious effort to maintain composure. I have a deep passion for cooking and do not want to leave, but I am tired of feeling unhappy.
Women think because most men don't outwardly show emotions after a break up that it doesn't bother us. Charge that to the fact that women have a support circle after a break up and men are expected to move on and not complain. Arguably, men have it worse BECAUSE we don't have an acceptable outlet for our emotions after really anything traumatic... especially a break up. A lot of times even our own mothers will tell us to suck it up if they think it's gone on too long.
Just because you broke up doesn't mean everything broke up. If they knew your mum and family there's no reason they can't grieve your passing and your girlfriend or partner should be comforted that you are capable of grieving the passing of someone who used to be part of your life.
As an adult it's not about you if your partner experiences a loss. You have no control or say so in what another adult does or how they handle the situation. Your only job is to be supportive in whatever capacity you can.
If you actually cared for the person, that never really goes away. So if you find out they passed away you're entitled to go through those feelings. I'd probably cry about an ex passing more than a distant cousin or uncle I don't know that well.
Lol I don’t feel like Pat was pessimistic. It’s realist that if you know you don’t plan for forever with a person, it’s gonna come to an end. Glass half full vs glass half empty depends on where you’re going… If you’re filling the glass, it’s half full. If you’re pouring out the glass, it’s half empty. Realistically it depends on your goal.
I agree with Patrick's pessimism despite being a woman...Persphanii is projecting her view point on all women . Pat's pessimistic view is realistic we not in lalala land
Funnily enough, the men running to the streets help with the break-up. I'll be sad, but i think it's the feeling of rejection. Then, after seeing them, ho ho ho around. I'm just disgusted, so I'm over it.
A different perspective: I definitely would grieve CERTAIN exes. I know in my heart of hearts, everyone around them would want me to speak at their funeral. To complete THE MISSION...I would have to be in a space to cultivate all moments concerning that person. I get it....I also could be to struck by the news to speak at all.....but just because I damn the body, that don't mean I have to damn the spirit. My ex, asked me to pray her strength over the death of her boyfriend, and we were beefin at the time..me and her + me and the guy! I ain't gon lie....I had to conjour all my strength to get past the body and pray for the spirit. But I get the popular opinion. Overall, cruelty begets cruelty....karma is alive and real. I don't want that on my conscience.
If you really truly loved someone at one time. You're always gonna have a degree of love and grief for anything tragic that happens to them. If not you really didn't feel it for him or her. and or you're a sociopath. Get help.
To be comfortable and be comfortable around each other it will take some time I do not have problems with my skin😂😂😂 but we can get body massages together😮
🙋🏾♂️ Why make wealth from a Sacrifice? What is Holistic Healing beyond Herbs bought without Pharmaceutical Insurance? Blessings Revelation 21:4 in English.
You're either going to break up with your partner or last. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, Pat. I see every episode posted, Persephanii tends to always comment on your "mindset" towards relationships. It's apparent she doesn't understand how that could be your stance. But she doesn't seem willing to let it rock.
It's me again relationship the truth is the Living God of heaven will never leave your side it is not an easy path to follow😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😮 the path of freedom and Truth😮
You looking for your power in the comments but guy losing weight is not always that deep it could be he was using her car she say not no more he walking now habits change not in the house as much less process foods she microwave for you 46:05
Naw, pat trying to debate his pessimistic view on relationships not lasting is crazy. If we going with statistics, that means 1 of the people on every podcast you on has aids/hiv 😂😂😂
At the end of the day if the outcome is inevitably going to be the same, does it really matter what view you have? lol & I don’t think Pat is being pessimistic.. he’s just not living in fairytale land.. to be *mindful* (not anticipating or wishing.. that’s different & not what he’s alluding to..) of potential outcomes isn’t being negative, it’s just being realistic that most people don’t find their forever person. No different than playing the lottery & understanding you’re not going to win every time & that odds say you’ll probably never win.. it is what it is.. people keep playing.. 🤷🏾♂️
0:00 Grieving exes 😭
16:26 Persephanii's bad barz 🔥
18:04 Cloudy fact 🤫
21:33 Persephanii's fact 📖
23:37 Ignored privileges 🤔
41:16 Do men grieve after breakups? 💔 / Outro
We need to deal with our insecurities. There's nothing wrong with grieving someone you once loved. Grief takes on many forms and reasons.
Getting upset about someone grieving is crazy to me
I am.with Patrick.
Serial optimism is just exhausting.
Couples should be in the now as opposed to ignoring it whilst trying to make a future happen.
The future is just a series of nows anyway.
Breathing through our nose is a super privilege 😂
The physical ability to text with my thumbs
My ex was a 20 year relationship. I would grieve. But we share children, so I'd grieve for/with them.
This episode was it👏🏾👏🏾… Every relationship can come in chapters or phases as we grow through our teens, wild twenties and so forth trying to find who we are and also exploring new heights of just self. I don’t believe in soul mates but I do believe in good matches due to good chemistry turning into great relationships. There are just too many possibilities on this planet to have a soul mate. We evolve so much overtime in relationship but the key is growing together. Great episode 👍🏾
Grocery stores are a SUPER privilege. All these food choices in one place!
I see both sides but definitely agree more so with pat. Being more realistic. After a point it was giving just listening to respond.
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It makes sense that Persephanii's mom is hyper vigilant and she went into learning psychology. We want to understand our parents and the way they raised us.
I cant believe this is an actual question. Yes men grieve after breakups. Way harder than women do. Because they have less options than women and its harder to rebound
obito ain’t neva lied 🤣
@@tajmula671 Obito? Never heard of such name. I am MADARA UCHIHA!
@@maskedman5657🤣🤟🏾
Her trying to explain her bars is hilarious 🤣
Being employed in the food industry and disliking my job is truly exhausting. I have not moved on from this job because it is difficult to find an employer who values your worth. I have been in this line of work for 8 years and the individuals in this industry are truly unpleasant. I have been making a conscious effort to maintain composure. I have a deep passion for cooking and do not want to leave, but I am tired of feeling unhappy.
Women think because most men don't outwardly show emotions after a break up that it doesn't bother us. Charge that to the fact that women have a support circle after a break up and men are expected to move on and not complain. Arguably, men have it worse BECAUSE we don't have an acceptable outlet for our emotions after really anything traumatic... especially a break up. A lot of times even our own mothers will tell us to suck it up if they think it's gone on too long.
Just because you broke up doesn't mean everything broke up. If they knew your mum and family there's no reason they can't grieve your passing and your girlfriend or partner should be comforted that you are capable of grieving the passing of someone who used to be part of your life.
As an adult it's not about you if your partner experiences a loss. You have no control or say so in what another adult does or how they handle the situation. Your only job is to be supportive in whatever capacity you can.
If you actually cared for the person, that never really goes away. So if you find out they passed away you're entitled to go through those feelings. I'd probably cry about an ex passing more than a distant cousin or uncle I don't know that well.
Lol I don’t feel like Pat was pessimistic. It’s realist that if you know you don’t plan for forever with a person, it’s gonna come to an end.
Glass half full vs glass half empty depends on where you’re going…
If you’re filling the glass, it’s half full.
If you’re pouring out the glass, it’s half empty. Realistically it depends on your goal.
I agree with Patrick's pessimism despite being a woman...Persphanii is projecting her view point on all women . Pat's pessimistic view is realistic we not in lalala land
Just because you're in a compatible relationship doesn't mean it's not toxic, that's how divorces are started.
Y’all be under their comments talking about “Pat & Persephanii” should date”. No tf they shouldn’t 😂
I figured they already are
@@oaktree1626 If neither one of them confirmed it, don’t believe lol
Big and Pac spoke their death into reality
Funnily enough, the men running to the streets help with the break-up. I'll be sad, but i think it's the feeling of rejection. Then, after seeing them, ho ho ho around. I'm just disgusted, so I'm over it.
I am an evaporated person and I love it. 🎉
Hydrate! 💧
Great ep 🤙🏾
Great video chat was fun
I def called off because of not having gas in my car when I was younger.
Facts
This crazy. Uncomfortable.😅😢
I had this happen before you kinda gotta just let em grieve I gave her flowers and supported her through the process
I have to pause and go do a deep search on the Foolio situation bc I’m clueless 🤦🏾♀️😭
Men grieve during the relationship, thats why it always seems to women like men don't care.
😅
Interesting show
The ability to walk around without my back hurting from slipped discs from yearsss ago (with the help of water n cbd oil mhm mhm)😅😅😅
I totally agree a/c being a privilege. I’m day 2 without any power after hurricane Beryl hit. 😑
Evaporated People is Crazyyyy
17:53 🔥
A different perspective:
I definitely would grieve CERTAIN exes. I know in my heart of hearts, everyone around them would want me to speak at their funeral. To complete THE MISSION...I would have to be in a space to cultivate all moments concerning that person. I get it....I also could be to struck by the news to speak at all.....but just because I damn the body, that don't mean I have to damn the spirit.
My ex, asked me to pray her strength over the death of her boyfriend, and we were beefin at the time..me and her + me and the guy! I ain't gon lie....I had to conjour all my strength to get past the body and pray for the spirit. But I get the popular opinion. Overall, cruelty begets cruelty....karma is alive and real. I don't want that on my conscience.
Chat was insaaane 😂😂😂😂
We grieve by getting some new box😁👍🏾
I lost 25 lbs in 3 weeks myself after my breakup. I continued to barely eat for like 5-6 months
Bobillia in another country: dies in a freak accident 😂😂 damn
Dear women, alot of men will waste your time. Make sure hes there for the right reasons.
Don't worry about getting old I'll be with you until the 90s and up getting old is a luxury not all of us can afford that😢😢😢
No it’s not Inappropriate just because your ex’s doesn’t mean your over them especially if they broke up with you.
I'm here to see have we confirmed if Pat and P are together 😂🤦🏾♀️🥴
If you really truly loved someone at one time. You're always gonna have a degree of love and grief for anything tragic that happens to them. If not you really didn't feel it for him or her. and or you're a sociopath. Get help.
The transparent top is what the people want more of. Respectfully
I just ended a 24 year old relationship so it can happen at any time
Duh, men grieve!! we are humans too! Not even a question.
If my girl was acting like that about her eggs I would rightfully be upset foh
Men definitely grieve more than Women. You talk to your homegirl, she says "He wasn't sht anyway" & you back in the club next week
Are they besties yall?
51:45
Some do some don't if this guy truly like this woman he will 😊😚☺️
To be comfortable and be comfortable around each other it will take some time I do not have problems with my skin😂😂😂 but we can get body massages together😮
🙋🏾♂️ Why make wealth from a Sacrifice? What is Holistic Healing beyond Herbs bought without Pharmaceutical Insurance? Blessings Revelation 21:4 in English.
31:33
what the fuck is this question? 😂
You said we 🤔 like your a girl that hopes relationships 54:40
You're either going to break up with your partner or last. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, Pat. I see every episode posted, Persephanii tends to always comment on your "mindset" towards relationships. It's apparent she doesn't understand how that could be your stance. But she doesn't seem willing to let it rock.
It's me again relationship the truth is the Living God of heaven will never leave your side it is not an easy path to follow😢😢😢😢😢😮😮😮😮 the path of freedom and Truth😮
Awlawd she bout to break up with u bruh......or the opposite 😃
You looking for your power in the comments but guy losing weight is not always that deep it could be he was using her car she say not no more he walking now habits change not in the house as much less process foods she microwave for you 46:05
Naw, pat trying to debate his pessimistic view on relationships not lasting is crazy. If we going with statistics, that means 1 of the people on every podcast you on has aids/hiv 😂😂😂
At the end of the day if the outcome is inevitably going to be the same, does it really matter what view you have? lol & I don’t think Pat is being pessimistic.. he’s just not living in fairytale land.. to be *mindful* (not anticipating or wishing.. that’s different & not what he’s alluding to..) of potential outcomes isn’t being negative, it’s just being realistic that most people don’t find their forever person. No different than playing the lottery & understanding you’re not going to win every time & that odds say you’ll probably never win.. it is what it is.. people keep playing.. 🤷🏾♂️
This episode didn't improve my day at all