Just killed a 10 pt missouri buck with a swacker this evening. Never had a deer pile up so fast. Pass through dbl lung shot went about 25 yards. I am sold
the barrel is more rigid towards the bottom of the barrel, therefore, it gives less and doesnt absorb as much energy towards the bottom. I would bet that if you reversed the order of arrows shot that the results would be different. I like all three of these broadheads though and I dont think that you could go wrong with any of them.
Love this video. Lots of good info and very well done with very little bias to any of the heads. I am some rage heads and have noticed the same breakage on animals. I think I will try out the Swhacker's this season to see how they hold up. The test was great. I also really enjoyed the message at the end of the video. A lot of our issues today in this society are caused because not enough people a personal relationship with the Lord. Get out there and find a good church family that believes in biblical values and holds Jesus as their savior and way to the Lord.
So glad to here someone talk about the importance of tuning your bow. It really is the key to good broad head flight (mechanical of fixed blade). Lack of tuning creates lack of efficiency. Also glad that you are not ashamed of the gospel.
repeat the test in a different order. There may be more flexing of the barrel due to water pressure changes with depth and the top of the barrel has no support.
If you are in a tree, you have to get all the way thru. From what I have seen the Rage doesn't do that often enough for me. I have killed 2 deer with the Swacker and both times I have pulled the arrow out of the ground atleast 4" deep and the deer pilled up pretty quick. I also like that I bust nocks out the 40 yards with them. I will stick with them until they fail me.
skippygus73 the last two years I've taken two deer with Swacker on my crossbow. Both pass through like butter and leave a beautiful exit. I'm sticking with them until they fail as well. I'm hunting with the on a bow this year and I'm confident I'll have the same results.
I took 4 deer in 2020 with the 2” Green 100gr Swhackers!! Buy the real ones. Not the Chinese made rip-offs!!! They work!! Been shooting them for years. Probably have 5 unopened packs of them. Won’t shoot anything else at deer sized game!!
I've used Swhackers for several years now. They hold up well until they hit that shoulder bone and then the ferrule and blades will bend. I've killed numerous deer with the swhacker broadhead but the issue for me is that they rarely produce a good blood trail. I'm switching to Rage this year. I've had to track deer through some nasty thickets with not much of a blood trail due to Swhackers.
Neat! I wonder if it is by chance that the lower the broadhead, the further it penetrated. In other words, would you have gotten the same results if you traded locations of the broadhead. I ask because, I imagine that the barrel vibrates more the higher you hit it. That vibration could have impacted how far the upper arrows penetrated. Just curious! Thanks for doing this!!!
Found the ending of this video interesting and was wondering if i could get a little more insight into how to get my field broad heads to shoot like my field points. When i first bought my bow the groups were 1-2" everytime at 20 yrds. And bow that i have "french tuned" my bow the broad heads shoot accurate at 20yrds. But my field points are now off. Any possible way i can obtain the broad head tuning guide you mentioned at the end of the video?
Hey y'all also remember that most of you will be shooting from a tree stand so your shot angle will be going down. So your entrance hole really wouldn't matter. What you really want is a big exit hole and the three heads that were tested looked pretty good. I am still going to use my Swhacker because I bought them last year and haven't had an animal close enough to shoot at. I would also like to see you guys do a quartering away shot on plywood test. I have seen this done for the Swhacker and it did really good, I would like to see how the other 2 do on that type of shot. Oh and one more thing, I really liked the very last part of this video. Jesus is the answer for everything in your life...
I can not help but notice that barrel has no lid which means it has different tensile strength from top to bottom. the top will flex and bounce more which will result in less penetration as is indicated that each broad head penetrated further the lower it hit the barrel as physics suggest it should.
Great test! I shoot a Dead Ringer Rampage 2 blade 2 inch and I love them. Very similar to a Swhacker except much stronger, sharper, and a better o ring.
I got a simple question about rage broadheads. And that is why they don’t open up when they go in the ground are they made that away or what? Because I think if they don’t open up when shot in the dirt I’m wandering if they will open up when shot in a deer?
Very proud of you guys stay with the word so many people are afraid to say the name of the Lord Jesus Christ now that he's very proud of you keep up the good work God bless
How can you make any conclusion with one shot? You should check out the scientific tests on the many broadheads marketed by Wade Nolan an lndependent tester. Your tuning tips are spot on and very well explained ,Have a blessed day!!
the penetration varied mainly because of the top and bottom of the drum.. at the top there is more flex, which absorbs most of the energy.. the farther to the bottom, the less flex.. which means more pass through ability
Two sides of 1/4" plastic is way tougher than deer hide and a rib or two. Looks like all three performed well. Rage had 1/2" more cut but Executioner had more penetration (less cut = less friction) but once you're through a real deer, no more energy is needed.
Shwaker looses on entry hole, but check blade sharpness. Dull blades dont cut clean and let arteries roll over them. Shwacker doesn't open the big blades til it's inside chest cavity . I will take razor sharp blades inside over big hole w dull blades where the blood is let. All will kill, but sharp blades cut better on organs and razor cuts bleed better. Clotting agents in blood need jagged edges to clot . Razor cuts always bleed longer . Makes sense to me anyway , lol
I'm a 3 blade guy myself, so I really don't have a dog in this race. But I did buy into the 2 inch 3 blade Grim Reaper Whitetail Specials. They were 100gn and performed excellent, then I changed my setup and went to 125gn broadheads due to speed limits on my archery competitions...having said that, I went with "the old tried and true" Jak-Hammers by WASP. And to be honest, they are still as good as any mechanical broadheads on the market...any d they are cheaper. How much you ask? Those Grim Reapers cost me $39 for 3 pack!...Jak-Hammers cost me $32 for 3 pack (bought from an expensive store because I couldn't find them anywhere else and needed them quickly) but I've seen them for sale online for $23 for 3 pack I usually buy 2 packs..so $80 for Grim Reapers... $50 for Jak-Hammers (if I would've bought online)....I think that says enough. Best bang for your buck is Jak-Hammers.
I think the rage did best it had bigger entrance hole then they did exit and bigger exit hole then they did entrance, you wont always have a exit hole you have to keep that in mind. but I liked that the other heads didn't have broken blades I don't want to have to buy new ones after each kill but that has happened to me yet, if it gets the game though I think it would be worth it.
No it didn't, the rage did the worst. The other two opened up inside the barrel, as it would on a deer cavity. Which is what those two heads are designed to do. Means more KE left over to cut inside and exit with a larger hole = more bleed out and blood.You seen the Rage didn't make it through the barrel. Also the blades broke. Less KE less bleed out.
you have made what we call a gross error on your "blood letting" each "inch of water" is equal to a PSI lower you shoot, the more water pressure you will have (therefore more "blood flow")
Top hole is most Flexible compared to,other two. I.e. itll slow that shot down by being spongey.... shoot all 3 equal to the bottom 3rd of water barrel next time
I've shot the Rage chisel tip 100gr 2" cut through 12 deer. All pass throughs and three shoulder hits and never had a blade brake or bend. This is the extreme rage and is not comparing apples to apples
In regard to cut size, the Rage actually out-performed the other two blades because the total cut size, including both the entry and exit holes was 3.5 inches. Total cut size of the other two blades was 3.0 inches each. At least theoretically, even though a blade on the Rage broke it still cut more tissue than did either of the other two broadheads. Again, at least theoretically yielding a quicker more humane kill (more tissue damage and larger entry and exit holes). In terms of flexibility of the blade, stiff (Schwacker) compared to flexible (Rage) that could be either an advantage or disadvantage. A flexible blade might yield greater penetration because it will bend and pass between ribs with less resistance if the blades are not at a 90 degree angle to the axis of the rib. A Schwacker hitting a set of ribs with the blades at a 90 degree angle would lose a lot of momentum. A Rage 2-blade hitting a set of ribs could conceivably result in both blades being bent or even broken although I've never seen or heard of that. The odds of hitting precisely in the middle of the two blades I suspect would be very small. More important than bow tuning may be broadhead testing are a variety of yardages. To see how well they expand and deploy at a variety of ranges. That will vary depending upon the weight and speed of the arrow and of course the poundage of the bow.
It's good to hear they'll be going to a .39 inch thick blade. There are some great mechanicals on the market now and Rage is one of them. In terms of their function they seem to be about bulletproof now. With the thicker blades they'll be hard to beat. We're fortunate there are a lot of choices. And shooting a particular broadhead isn't a religion where you have to stick with a particular brand or type of head. I'm currently shooting Rage and Grim Reaper in my crossbows and Wasp and G5-T3s in my vertical bow. All the same weight but a mix of fixed and mechanical heads. I think a lot of shooters don't realize that they might benefit from selecting a broadhead style and cut diameter that fits their equipment and hunting style. For instance, although Rage makes some great heads it would probably not be a good idea for someone shooting a 45 lb bow to think he or she is going to shoot a 2 inch successfully out to 40 yards. Probably just not enough KE to get a passthrough.
Really!!? Have you ever tracked a deer without an exit that wasn't heart shot? Doesn't sound like it with that stupid ass statement... I feel bad for your deer and the buddy's that help you track!
+Andrew Olsen speaking of zombies and being immature seem like that might be the one that has that problem, commenting on every post like you know everything. One of the biggest advantages of mechanical broadheads is the cutting diameter, not sure that I have ever seen a fixed blade with a cutting diameter of 2 inches. Just like you said you must be one of those fixtards that can't shoot anything besides fixed blade and smartest guy since Issac Newton. Thanks for telling everyone how dumb they are though sir Issac.
if you knew that the earth was round and it was obvious to you because you could see the endless evidence right in front of you that most people chose to ignore and stick with the flat earth theory. wouldn't it be annoying to always travel one direction because idiots think they'll fall off the edge of the earth? its not that I'm smarter, just that i happen to have witnessed the obvious failures of rage and happen to understand the physics of why they fail which makes me an obvious person to pay attention to if you care about the effectiveness of your setup! Im passionate about this specific thing because its a serious problem that is bad for game and hunters! every day some ragetards witness what im talking about and become fixtards because they finally witness the guaranteed eventual failure of rage, and guess what, you will too! btw do you think a 5-10% bigger hole is reason to shoot a bh that often fails in an infinate number. of ways that a fixed blade cant? pretty dumb!
The biggest fixed blade I could find with some quick looking was 1.5 inches. Considering I shoot a rage extreme at 2.3 inches in would be 65% bigger and most fixed blades are smaller than 1.5 inches. For you to have that many bad encounters with a rage you had to be taking shots that were probably unethical or just not getting the proper shot placement. I have never had a problem with any broadhead I have shot wether it be fixed blade or mechanical, but I only take ethical shots. I'm also glad you know that the earth is round, since that was discovered how many years ago by Aristotle, but thanks for the history lessons. You shoot your fixed blades I will keep shooting my rages and I will keep killing deer and being happy with what I have. One other thing is how do you think the entrance hole size is not as important as an exit hole. What about when you got a deer quartering away and you put lung shot on it and it sticks in the other shoulder. There will be no exit hole most likely, and a Lung shot could require a pretty large amount of tracking. In a thick woods small entrance hole and now we are talking about a deer you are on you hands and knees tracking, maybe not finding. This is part of the reason I shoot what I shoot, but you do what you like and I'll do what I like and everyone will be happy.
wound size factors: 2,3 or 4 blade heads aren't comparable by simple stationary span, strength and sharpness are huge factors, even how far the bh depresses the skin before it cuts And when one ore both of those rage blades are broken or bent sideways(about half the time)the hole gets way smaller way slower. The shots i speak of were broadside shots inside of 35 yds, the unethical part was the choice of bh/arrow. the 5-10% came from personal observation of 35-40 deer with bh holes in them and the rage holes just aren't that much bigger, and they ALWAYS penetrate less, period. Nobody I've ever heard of has ever claimed that an animal was only killed/ recovered because of slightly increased diameter of wound, but countless not killed or recovered because of a lack of penetration! The unnecessary Aristotle information you provided was the only lesson, because i was simply giving an example of mass idiocy, not looking for the source of the idea.
If you're not getting an exit wound, try a different broadhead. You may be losing all of your kinetic energy when you're punching a hole through the first side. The reason I like the swhackers so well is because they open up after they pass through the ribs, allowing them to maintain more kinetic energy and the blades don't dull when they're passing through the first set of ribs. I've had a swhacker pass through the humerus bone and exit through the rib cage. Believe it or not, the blades were still sharp after that and I took another deer with that same broadhead one month later.
There is less friction on the rages entry hole as there was NO WATER lubricating the front of the barrel. Once the rage made its hole the other two heads entered a lubed surface.. Id be willing to bet that the rage would have exited the barrel further with a wet front of the barrel. That being said. I have experienced the blades breaking with rage heads pretty regularly. After watching your video I think I will go to the Swhacker as my next head.. Thanks
+HitsOutdoors You could be right, but also, notice how the rage had an entrance hole twice the size of the other two, it seems to have deployed in flight since it's a 2.3" cut when fully deployed, might have bent when it hit the barrel.
Hey buddy.. I know you love Rages because you love gory video games like grand theft auto and some zombie shit and because you are 10 yrs old but they suck really bad! The variables you mentioned are negligible, trust me! They just don't penetrate as well as almost any bh on the market. I know you seen awesome holes in deer and cool blood trails but wait until you walk up to find no blood and an arrow with 1" broken off of it! And by the way, The rage fail every test done in every way on you tube and ragetards still won't believe it! Good luck, hopefully someday you grow up and get some big boy broadheads that don't claim to kill zombies and dinosaurs and have regular packaging.
Andrew, I think its funny that guys like you throw insults at people when making your posts. Im willing to bet in my 32 years of bow hunting I have killed more white tail with a bow than you have probably killed with all weapons combined. Im not sure of my exact number but Id venture to say up around 150 or so. I never said I LOVED Rage broadheads. As a matter of fact. I refused to hunt with Rage heads before they came out with the shock collar because they wouldn't stay closed in a quiver or when bumped on a riser. I hunted with Rage for 1 season after the shock collars came out. I first shot the rage Chisel tips. They have horrible penetration if you hit the shoulder plate or big upper leg bones. Been there, found that out. Then I went to Hypodermics which do penetrate excellent. I stopped using them because of constant blade breaking on impact. Even on perfect shots just hitting rib bones. I have video of one even making a SPARK when the blades flip back and hit the body of the head on impact with a deer. If you had read my entire reply you would have saw that I said I was going to try new heads because of blade breakage. The quest to find a good mechanical head that penetrates well and is durable is a tough venture. I have tried 7 or 8 different brands trying to settle into a good all around head over the past 6-7 years. I have Swhackers for this year and I will know the last week of Sept when Archery season opens how well they perform.
+HitsOutdoors yeah im sorry, it just kills me, i get all upset because Ive seen rage bh fail to penetrate personally numerous times and then i watch hunting shows where the shoot animals with rage and the deer runs off with 26" of arrow sticking out of it and they're celebrating! they get luck and recover animals never acknowledging how lucky they were to recover that animal, and if they lose an animal they never blame the rage and should! they are not only weak but the hyperextension actually causes them to self-arrest and nobody realizes it! they stop because they instantly and violently open to almost 90 degrees! like one of those turkey heads guillotine! anyway I'm curious why you want to shoot expendables anyway? there's a new study that was very well done(F&S?) that shows there not any more accurate than fixed blades and none shoot the same groups as feild points so i just wonder why bother with somthing that can fail when fixed to the same job just as well?
The Helix might be a good broadhead. I've never shot it. Two blades in my experience can sometimes be hard to tune because they sometimes want to plane. But with a 45 bow that might not be a problem. However, I have shot the little Wasp 100 grain three-blade and they work very well. A very tough head and the blades are sharp. And cheap (inexpensive - not cheaply built). With that poundage I'd stick with a 1 inch cut broadhead.
I'm not disliking the video I thought it was great but I don't think that the test was that accurate because she you shot the first arrow water came out of the bucket witch would change the density + the arrow on the bottom had the most water density to pass through. But that was a fun video to watch.
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great video, but the penetration can't be measured equally on this test.. the top of the barrel flexes the most and disperses the energy the most.. the farther down the barrel we go, the less flex, the less dispersion of energy=more pass thru power! =]
+itscork Mechanical heads normally fly like field points, very accurate. Fixed heads normally stronger. Better at having complete pass through with them. Fixed better at going through bone. But you need to have bow tuned correctly to use them. This will be more time consuming but the advantages of shooting a well tuned bow is great. Your arrows will fly straight and hard. Quicker kills and more pass through shots. Even if you like mechanical heads, tune bow as if you will use fixed heads.
Absolutely none! They claim they shoot like field points- they do not! They claim they are more accurate- they are not! Don't shoot mechanicals unless you want heartbreak!
Honestly, No ethical hunter would use the same broad head twice without changing blades anyway, so the fact that the blade broke on the Rage means nothing to me. It passed all the way through, and sliced a huge hole. I have used rage chisel tips for 3 years, killed 4 deer, all clean pass throughs, and with a switch of blades, they are like new. I love them, but clearly the other two tested are great too. Choose whichever one you like best, and use it. No need to bash other brands.
ive shot all three of these heads and i hunt with the rages if you cant pull enough weight to get enough penetration to kill a deer with a rage maybe people should start gun hunting im pulling 55 pounds and no deer made it outta sight not all pas through but entrance you can put your fist in i gave my shwackers away after seeing there entrance guy i gave em to shot his biggest deer ever arrow went 8 inches deep after 3-4 drops of blood and a hole day of 6 of us searching deers fine see him on cam all the time ill kill him next year but not with no damn shwacker rage or killzone all i use
One or two swipes on a whet stone and it's sharp again. You shouldn't have to replace them after every shot. If I were going to replace my heads every shot I'd just use a gun instead.
Therealdeal I'mwrongbut I think someone you know must shoot rage heads and always kills more and bigger deer than you do. I would actually bet a bunch of money that you’ve yet to kill a deer with a bow.
All of these broadheads will kill and pass through a deer. Hell ... at 36lbs with a Rage Hypodermic, a female friend got a pass through at 18yds and her first deer. It's all shot placement.
The Rage is a flawed design. It wastes to much energy on the entrance.The exit wound is most important. Shwack all the way. But I was impressed with the durability of the Xecutioner.
Finally somebody understands the self-arresting action of the rage! Thank you! It's the most overlooked problem in archery right now.. I bet thousands of deer are wounded and never recovered because of Rages, they're a disaster waiting to happen! I've seen it numerous times! That being said; stick with fixed blades, there are no real benefits to mechanicals, research shows the benefits are pretty much a myth and the risks are just not worth it, fixed blades don't fail!
the entrance is way more important your not going to get exit everytime ill take big entrance all day long its what make broadheads like rage killzone whatever it may be the best out there ive shot em all knocking that big entrance hole any day
Therealdeal I'mwrongbut If you really believe that there is no benefit to knocking a huge hole instead of the relatively small hole from a fixed blade you sir are too fucking stupid for words. I’ve been killing deer with a bow for 40 years and when I started of course I shot fixed blades because that is what we had. But I remember well that feeling of dread when I thought I may have hit a deer too far back. It always meant a very long very sparse blood trail. Sometimes we lost deer that were gut shot. I killed around 60 deer with dozens of different bhs. Some were really good and some were not. When rages came out I thought “what a piece of shit” and mocked others for shooting them. Then a friend gave me a pack as a gift. I decided to shoot a doe with one and see what happened. OMG where have these things been all my life!! I’m now at 43 deer and 7 hogs with rage. My 14 yr old has killed 8 with rage shooting 45lbs. All those animals down and NEVER had a problem with penetration. Most have been pass throughs. But when I don’t get an exit it’s never a problem. Also NEVER had one fail to open on contact, open in flight or come apart like all you haters say happens all the time. So I can only assume that you and the others that bash them have either never used them or don’t understand how to properly use them. And what started me on my rant. The benefit that you claim doesn’t exist is when you happen to make a poor shot. I no longer get that sick feeling. If you hit a deer through the body cavity no matter how far back you are probably gonna have no trouble finding him. As far as lost deer, if every deer hunter in the country from expert to beginners like you shot rages, I guarantee the number of lost deer would be cut in half
I shot rage, and not happy over all, mainly cause they are not always reliable, now swacker on the other hand, only mec broadhead I'll shoot now, cause literally screw it on and thats it, other than that fixed blade
Happened to me on three good bucks in one trip!! Devastating! and many others I know, amazing how many people ignore these countless horror stories with rage! Shoot heavy arrows and fixed blades and you'll never ever have a failure that isn't your own! Spread the word!
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Cat Jack Tell the last 40 deer I’ve shot that. Zero failures Zero lost deer. Even on a couple very poor hits. If you pay attention to detail and make sure you didn’t knock your blades loose in the quiver. They will never come open in flight and they will always produce the best blood trail in the business
Loved the short sermon , great analogy
Just killed a 10 pt missouri buck with a swacker this evening.
Never had a deer pile up so fast.
Pass through dbl lung shot went about 25 yards.
I am sold
I'm so glad you are explaining bow tuning I preach this all the time the arrow must be tuned to the bow and the bow must be tuned it works and harmony
Loved the final tip of this video. Well done.
+James Wojtowicz thanks ! God Bless, good luck this season.
Good video. Nice to see a fair test.
the barrel is more rigid towards the bottom of the barrel, therefore, it gives less and doesnt absorb as much energy towards the bottom. I would bet that if you reversed the order of arrows shot that the results would be different. I like all three of these broadheads though and I dont think that you could go wrong with any of them.
Love this video. Lots of good info and very well done with very little bias to any of the heads. I am some rage heads and have noticed the same breakage on animals. I think I will try out the Swhacker's this season to see how they hold up. The test was great. I also really enjoyed the message at the end of the video. A lot of our issues today in this society are caused because not enough people a personal relationship with the Lord. Get out there and find a good church family that believes in biblical values and holds Jesus as their savior and way to the Lord.
So glad to here someone talk about the importance of tuning your bow. It really is the key to good broad head flight (mechanical of fixed blade). Lack of tuning creates lack of efficiency. Also glad that you are not ashamed of the gospel.
Great Video Matt. 3 top Broadheads and we see a winner in my eyes. XECUTIONER looks great on this test. Outdoorsman2009
Excellent test!
Great video! im using the swhacker this year hope they do the job
Just so you know plastic barrels git thinner in the middle thicker at the ends
repeat the test in a different order. There may be more flexing of the barrel due to water pressure changes with depth and the top of the barrel has no support.
The rage broke its junk. So your saying a deer has no flex in its hide
Rage is junk I shot two deer with rage and both had crap penetration and didn’t work good at all, lost both deer I’ll never use rage again
She saying the barrel probably flexed more at the top vs the bottom, might vary the results of the penetration
I would like to see you do a broadhead vs bones test.
good video bud. Really liked it and gave ya a sub
Awesome video! I'm almost ready to become a swhacker fan, just need a couple more nudges. Nice word at the end as well, important. thanks for sharing.
If you are in a tree, you have to get all the way thru. From what I have seen the Rage doesn't do that often enough for me. I have killed 2 deer with the Swacker and both times I have pulled the arrow out of the ground atleast 4" deep and the deer pilled up pretty quick. I also like that I bust nocks out the 40 yards with them. I will stick with them until they fail me.
skippygus73 the last two years I've taken two deer with Swacker on my crossbow. Both pass through like butter and leave a beautiful exit. I'm sticking with them until they fail as well. I'm hunting with the on a bow this year and I'm confident I'll have the same results.
I took 4 deer in 2020 with the 2” Green 100gr Swhackers!!
Buy the real ones. Not the Chinese made rip-offs!!!
They work!!
Been shooting them for years. Probably have 5 unopened packs of them. Won’t shoot anything else at deer sized game!!
Good information!! Thanks
I've used Swhackers for several years now. They hold up well until they hit that shoulder bone and then the ferrule and blades will bend. I've killed numerous deer with the swhacker broadhead but the issue for me is that they rarely produce a good blood trail. I'm switching to Rage this year. I've had to track deer through some nasty thickets with not much of a blood trail due to Swhackers.
Neat! I wonder if it is by chance that the lower the broadhead, the further it penetrated. In other words, would you have gotten the same results if you traded locations of the broadhead. I ask because, I imagine that the barrel vibrates more the higher you hit it. That vibration could have impacted how far the upper arrows penetrated. Just curious! Thanks for doing this!!!
Shwacker is made to open up to 2 inches inside the chest cavity. That is why there is only a 1 inch entry cut.
Thank you for the video know more about broadhead !!!
Found the ending of this video interesting and was wondering if i could get a little more insight into how to get my field broad heads to shoot like my field points. When i first bought my bow the groups were 1-2" everytime at 20 yrds. And bow that i have "french tuned" my bow the broad heads shoot accurate at 20yrds. But my field points are now off. Any possible way i can obtain the broad head tuning guide you mentioned at the end of the video?
Hey y'all also remember that most of you will be shooting from a tree stand so your shot angle will be going down. So your entrance hole really wouldn't matter. What you really want is a big exit hole and the three heads that were tested looked pretty good. I am still going to use my Swhacker because I bought them last year and haven't had an animal close enough to shoot at.
I would also like to see you guys do a quartering away shot on plywood test. I have seen this done for the Swhacker and it did really good, I would like to see how the other 2 do on that type of shot.
Oh and one more thing, I really liked the very last part of this video. Jesus is the answer for everything in your life...
Yes sir ! We'll do more test soon. God Bless !
If you hit the off shoulder I promise you will wish there was a large entrance hole! You need the best of both worlds
moyer outdoors preach on brother
I can not help but notice that barrel has no lid which means it has different tensile strength from top to bottom. the top will flex and bounce more which will result in less penetration as is indicated that each broad head penetrated further the lower it hit the barrel as physics suggest it should.
Great test! I shoot a Dead Ringer Rampage 2 blade 2 inch and I love them. Very similar to a Swhacker except much stronger, sharper, and a better o ring.
I got a simple question about rage broadheads. And that is why they don’t open up when they go in the ground are they made that away or what? Because I think if they don’t open up when shot in the dirt I’m wandering if they will open up when shot in a deer?
Very proud of you guys stay with the word so many people are afraid to say the name of the Lord Jesus Christ now that he's very proud of you keep up the good work God bless
+NavDocRet
When you die you will find out!
why didnt you use a 2.5 inch shwacker? That would be more identical cutting area
How can you make any conclusion with one shot? You should check out the scientific tests on the many broadheads marketed by Wade Nolan an lndependent tester. Your tuning tips are spot on and very well explained ,Have a blessed day!!
the penetration varied mainly because of the top and bottom of the drum.. at the top there is more flex, which absorbs most of the energy.. the farther to the bottom, the less flex.. which means more pass through ability
I was thinking the same thing... nothing wrong with a rage
Or because some bh penetrate better than others? Just a crazy thought since every test I've seen has about the same results.
Two sides of 1/4" plastic is way tougher than deer hide and a rib or two. Looks like all three performed well. Rage had 1/2" more cut but Executioner had more penetration (less cut = less friction) but once you're through a real deer, no more energy is needed.
How much kinetic energy does your bow have??
Amen, thanks for the input and the Jesus factor!!!
Shwaker looses on entry hole, but check blade sharpness. Dull blades dont cut clean and let arteries roll over them. Shwacker doesn't open the big blades til it's inside chest cavity . I will take razor sharp blades inside over big hole w dull blades where the blood is let.
All will kill, but sharp blades cut better on organs and razor cuts bleed better. Clotting agents in blood need jagged edges to clot . Razor cuts always bleed longer . Makes sense to me anyway , lol
I'm a 3 blade guy myself, so I really don't have a dog in this race. But I did buy into the 2 inch 3 blade Grim Reaper Whitetail Specials. They were 100gn and performed excellent, then I changed my setup and went to 125gn broadheads due to speed limits on my archery competitions...having said that, I went with "the old tried and true" Jak-Hammers by WASP. And to be honest, they are still as good as any mechanical broadheads on the market...any d they are cheaper. How much you ask? Those Grim Reapers cost me $39 for 3 pack!...Jak-Hammers cost me $32 for 3 pack (bought from an expensive store because I couldn't find them anywhere else and needed them quickly) but I've seen them for sale online for $23 for 3 pack I usually buy 2 packs..so $80 for Grim Reapers... $50 for Jak-Hammers (if I would've bought online)....I think that says enough. Best bang for your buck is Jak-Hammers.
Why did you shoot 2.3 & 2.5" & 2" blades? Not really apples to apples
I think the rage did best it had bigger entrance hole then they did exit and bigger exit hole then they did entrance, you wont always have a exit hole you have to keep that in mind. but I liked that the other heads didn't have broken blades I don't want to have to buy new ones after each kill but that has happened to me yet, if it gets the game though I think it would be worth it.
No it didn't, the rage did the worst. The other two opened up inside the barrel, as it would on a deer cavity. Which is what those two heads are designed to do. Means more KE left over to cut inside and exit with a larger hole = more bleed out and blood.You seen the Rage didn't make it through the barrel. Also the blades broke. Less KE less bleed out.
Idiot
you have made what we call a gross error on your "blood letting" each "inch of water" is equal to a PSI lower you shoot, the more water pressure you will have (therefore more "blood flow")
Water pressure has alot to do with " the Blood trials from the bottom two broadheads"
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Top hole is most Flexible compared to,other two. I.e. itll slow that shot down by being spongey.... shoot all 3 equal to the bottom 3rd of water barrel next time
You realize that if you shot three of the same broadhead like that, the pent ratio would still look the same, right?
Rage can't even stay together threw plastic what do u think will happen when it hits ribs, or shoulder blade......lol junk
Same exact thing I was thinking! Lol
I've shot the Rage chisel tip 100gr 2" cut through 12 deer. All pass throughs and three shoulder hits and never had a blade brake or bend. This is the extreme rage and is not comparing apples to apples
In regard to cut size, the Rage actually out-performed the other two blades because the total cut size, including both the entry and exit holes was 3.5 inches. Total cut size of the other two blades was 3.0 inches each. At least theoretically, even though a blade on the Rage broke it still cut more tissue than did either of the other two broadheads. Again, at least theoretically yielding a quicker more humane kill (more tissue damage and larger entry and exit holes).
In terms of flexibility of the blade, stiff (Schwacker) compared to flexible (Rage) that could be either an advantage or disadvantage. A flexible blade might yield greater penetration because it will bend and pass between ribs with less resistance if the blades are not at a 90 degree angle to the axis of the rib. A Schwacker hitting a set of ribs with the blades at a 90 degree angle would lose a lot of momentum. A Rage 2-blade hitting a set of ribs could conceivably result in both blades being bent or even broken although I've never seen or heard of that. The odds of hitting precisely in the middle of the two blades I suspect would be very small.
More important than bow tuning may be broadhead testing are a variety of yardages. To see how well they expand and deploy at a variety of ranges. That will vary depending upon the weight and speed of the arrow and of course the poundage of the bow.
New rage will be even better. Titanium and .39 vs .35 thickness
It's good to hear they'll be going to a .39 inch thick blade. There are some great mechanicals on the market now and Rage is one of them. In terms of their function they seem to be about bulletproof now. With the thicker blades they'll be hard to beat.
We're fortunate there are a lot of choices. And shooting a particular broadhead isn't a religion where you have to stick with a particular brand or type of head. I'm currently shooting Rage and Grim Reaper in my crossbows and Wasp and G5-T3s in my vertical bow. All the same weight but a mix of fixed and mechanical heads.
I think a lot of shooters don't realize that they might benefit from selecting a broadhead style and cut diameter that fits their equipment and hunting style. For instance, although Rage makes some great heads it would probably not be a good idea for someone shooting a 45 lb bow to think he or she is going to shoot a 2 inch successfully out to 40 yards. Probably just not enough KE to get a passthrough.
no guarantee of an exit hole, big entry wound is more important in my opinion.
Really!!? Have you ever tracked a deer without an exit that wasn't heart shot? Doesn't sound like it with that stupid ass statement... I feel bad for your deer and the buddy's that help you track!
+Andrew Olsen speaking of zombies and being immature seem like that might be the one that has that problem, commenting on every post like you know everything. One of the biggest advantages of mechanical broadheads is the cutting diameter, not sure that I have ever seen a fixed blade with a cutting diameter of 2 inches. Just like you said you must be one of those fixtards that can't shoot anything besides fixed blade and smartest guy since Issac Newton. Thanks for telling everyone how dumb they are though sir Issac.
if you knew that the earth was round and it was obvious to you because you could see the endless evidence right in front of you that most people chose to ignore and stick with the flat earth theory. wouldn't it be annoying to always travel one direction because idiots think they'll fall off the edge of the earth? its not that I'm smarter, just that i happen to have witnessed the obvious failures of rage and happen to understand the physics of why they fail which makes me an obvious person to pay attention to if you care about the effectiveness of your setup! Im passionate about this specific thing because its a serious problem that is bad for game and hunters! every day some ragetards witness what im talking about and become fixtards because they finally witness the guaranteed eventual failure of rage, and guess what, you will too! btw do you think a 5-10% bigger hole is reason to shoot a bh that often fails in an infinate number. of ways that a fixed blade cant? pretty dumb!
The biggest fixed blade I could find with some quick looking was 1.5 inches. Considering I shoot a rage extreme at 2.3 inches in would be 65% bigger and most fixed blades are smaller than 1.5 inches. For you to have that many bad encounters with a rage you had to be taking shots that were probably unethical or just not getting the proper shot placement. I have never had a problem with any broadhead I have shot wether it be fixed blade or mechanical, but I only take ethical shots. I'm also glad you know that the earth is round, since that was discovered how many years ago by Aristotle, but thanks for the history lessons. You shoot your fixed blades I will keep shooting my rages and I will keep killing deer and being happy with what I have. One other thing is how do you think the entrance hole size is not as important as an exit hole. What about when you got a deer quartering away and you put lung shot on it and it sticks in the other shoulder. There will be no exit hole most likely, and a Lung shot could require a pretty large amount of tracking. In a thick woods small entrance hole and now we are talking about a deer you are on you hands and knees tracking, maybe not finding. This is part of the reason I shoot what I shoot, but you do what you like and I'll do what I like and everyone will be happy.
wound size factors: 2,3 or 4 blade heads aren't comparable by simple stationary span, strength and sharpness are huge factors, even how far the bh depresses the skin before it cuts And when one ore both of those rage blades are broken or bent sideways(about half the time)the hole gets way smaller way slower. The shots i speak of were broadside shots inside of 35 yds, the unethical part was the choice of bh/arrow. the 5-10% came from personal observation of 35-40 deer with bh holes in them and the rage holes just aren't that much bigger, and they ALWAYS penetrate less, period. Nobody I've ever heard of has ever claimed that an animal was only killed/ recovered because of slightly increased diameter of wound, but countless not killed or recovered because of a lack of penetration! The unnecessary Aristotle information you provided was the only lesson, because i was simply giving an example of mass idiocy, not looking for the source of the idea.
Shot a cull buck last night with a rage 2 blade and couldn't find him or good blood
Welcome to the huge club! Don't use them! Or any mechanicals, they have no upside!
i would rather have 2 inch cuts on both sides on my animal than a 1 inch entrance wound when sometimes you dont get an exit.
If you're not getting an exit wound, try a different broadhead. You may be losing all of your kinetic energy when you're punching a hole through the first side. The reason I like the swhackers so well is because they open up after they pass through the ribs, allowing them to maintain more kinetic energy and the blades don't dull when they're passing through the first set of ribs. I've had a swhacker pass through the humerus bone and exit through the rib cage. Believe it or not, the blades were still sharp after that and I took another deer with that same broadhead one month later.
There is less friction on the rages entry hole as there was NO WATER lubricating the front of the barrel. Once the rage made its hole the other two heads entered a lubed surface.. Id be willing to bet that the rage would have exited the barrel further with a wet front of the barrel. That being said. I have experienced the blades breaking with rage heads pretty regularly. After watching your video I think I will go to the Swhacker as my next head.. Thanks
+HitsOutdoors You could be right, but also, notice how the rage had an entrance hole twice the size of the other two, it seems to have deployed in flight since it's a 2.3" cut when fully deployed, might have bent when it hit the barrel.
Hey buddy.. I know you love Rages because you love gory video games like grand theft auto and some zombie shit and because you are 10 yrs old but they suck really bad! The variables you mentioned are negligible, trust me! They just don't penetrate as well as almost any bh on the market. I know you seen awesome holes in deer and cool blood trails but wait until you walk up to find no blood and an arrow with 1" broken off of it! And by the way, The rage fail every test done in every way on you tube and ragetards still won't believe it! Good luck, hopefully someday you grow up and get some big boy broadheads that don't claim to kill zombies and dinosaurs and have regular packaging.
Andrew, I think its funny that guys like you throw insults at people when making your posts. Im willing to bet in my 32 years of bow hunting I have killed more white tail with a bow than you have probably killed with all weapons combined. Im not sure of my exact number but Id venture to say up around 150 or so. I never said I LOVED Rage broadheads. As a matter of fact. I refused to hunt with Rage heads before they came out with the shock collar because they wouldn't stay closed in a quiver or when bumped on a riser. I hunted with Rage for 1 season after the shock collars came out. I first shot the rage Chisel tips. They have horrible penetration if you hit the shoulder plate or big upper leg bones. Been there, found that out. Then I went to Hypodermics which do penetrate excellent. I stopped using them because of constant blade breaking on impact. Even on perfect shots just hitting rib bones. I have video of one even making a SPARK when the blades flip back and hit the body of the head on impact with a deer. If you had read my entire reply you would have saw that I said I was going to try new heads because of blade breakage. The quest to find a good mechanical head that penetrates well and is durable is a tough venture. I have tried 7 or 8 different brands trying to settle into a good all around head over the past 6-7 years. I have Swhackers for this year and I will know the last week of Sept when Archery season opens how well they perform.
Ethan, I didnt have great luck wtih Rage heads. Ive moved on from them now.
+HitsOutdoors yeah im sorry, it just kills me, i get all upset because Ive seen rage bh fail to penetrate personally numerous times and then i watch hunting shows where the shoot animals with rage and the deer runs off with 26" of arrow sticking out of it and they're celebrating! they get luck and recover animals never acknowledging how lucky they were to recover that animal, and if they lose an animal they never blame the rage and should! they are not only weak but the hyperextension actually causes them to self-arrest and nobody realizes it! they stop because they instantly and violently open to almost 90 degrees! like one of those turkey heads guillotine! anyway I'm curious why you want to shoot expendables anyway? there's a new study that was very well done(F&S?) that shows there not any more accurate than fixed blades and none shoot the same groups as feild points so i just wonder why bother with somthing that can fail when fixed to the same job just as well?
what would be a good fixed blade that has good penetration and could kill a deer with 45lb
Helix 100gr
The Helix might be a good broadhead. I've never shot it. Two blades in my experience can sometimes be hard to tune because they sometimes want to plane. But with a 45 bow that might not be a problem.
However, I have shot the little Wasp 100 grain three-blade and they work very well. A very tough head and the blades are sharp. And cheap (inexpensive - not cheaply built).
With that poundage I'd stick with a 1 inch cut broadhead.
I'm not disliking the video I thought it was great but I don't think that the test was that accurate because she you shot the first arrow water came out of the bucket witch would change the density + the arrow on the bottom had the most water density to pass through. But that was a fun video to watch.
Swhacker has a 2.25" 125 grain. I wanted to compare all 100 grain.
they were 100 grain
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reverse the order that you shot. You will be surprised that no matter how you shoot, the top will have less penetration. Psychics my friend;)
great video, but the penetration can't be measured equally on this test.. the top of the barrel flexes the most and disperses the energy the most.. the farther down the barrel we go, the less flex, the less dispersion of energy=more pass thru power! =]
No way the rage broke. Junk. So your saying a deer hide don't flex
What's the advantage of a mechanical as opposed to fixed broadheads?
+itscork Mechanical heads normally fly like field points, very accurate. Fixed heads normally stronger. Better at having complete pass through with them. Fixed better at going through bone. But you need to have bow tuned correctly to use them. This will be more time consuming but the advantages of shooting a well tuned bow is great. Your arrows will fly straight and hard. Quicker kills and more pass through shots. Even if you like mechanical heads, tune bow as if you will use fixed heads.
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Absolutely none! They claim they shoot like field points- they do not! They claim they are more accurate- they are not! Don't shoot mechanicals unless you want heartbreak!
A++++ Completely agree !!!
Honestly, No ethical hunter would use the same broad head twice without changing blades anyway, so the fact that the blade broke on the Rage means nothing to me. It passed all the way through, and sliced a huge hole. I have used rage chisel tips for 3 years, killed 4 deer, all clean pass throughs, and with a switch of blades, they are like new. I love them, but clearly the other two tested are great too. Choose whichever one you like best, and use it. No need to bash other brands.
Yes there is, because Rage suck and they will prove it to you one day.. The hard way!
ive shot all three of these heads and i hunt with the rages if you cant pull enough weight to get enough penetration to kill a deer with a rage maybe people should start gun hunting im pulling 55 pounds and no deer made it outta sight not all pas through but entrance you can put your fist in i gave my shwackers away after seeing there entrance guy i gave em to shot his biggest deer ever arrow went 8 inches deep after 3-4 drops of blood and a hole day of 6 of us searching deers fine see him on cam all the time ill kill him next year but not with no damn shwacker rage or killzone all i use
One or two swipes on a whet stone and it's sharp again. You shouldn't have to replace them after every shot. If I were going to replace my heads every shot I'd just use a gun instead.
Therealdeal I'mwrongbut I think someone you know must shoot rage heads and always kills more and bigger deer than you do. I would actually bet a bunch of money that you’ve yet to kill a deer with a bow.
Executioner heads blow.... throw away heads!
Shwacker is a open inside broadhead they are the better of the theee
Im here to read all the rage fan boys comments.
All of these broadheads will kill and pass through a deer. Hell ... at 36lbs with a Rage Hypodermic, a female friend got a pass through at 18yds and her first deer. It's all shot placement.
The Rage is a flawed design. It wastes to much energy on the entrance.The exit wound is most important. Shwack all the way. But I was impressed with the durability of the Xecutioner.
Finally somebody understands the self-arresting action of the rage! Thank you! It's the most overlooked problem in archery right now.. I bet thousands of deer are wounded and never recovered because of Rages, they're a disaster waiting to happen! I've seen it numerous times!
That being said; stick with fixed blades, there are no real benefits to mechanicals, research shows the benefits are pretty much a myth and the risks are just not worth it, fixed blades don't fail!
the entrance is way more important your not going to get exit everytime ill take big entrance all day long its what make broadheads like rage killzone whatever it may be the best out there ive shot em all knocking that big entrance hole any day
It would be fine if they made their blades better and then just copied the exicutioner's design 😁
Therealdeal I'mwrongbut If you really believe that there is no benefit to knocking a huge hole instead of the relatively small hole from a fixed blade you sir are too fucking stupid for words. I’ve been killing deer with a bow for 40 years and when I started of course I shot fixed blades because that is what we had. But I remember well that feeling of dread when I thought I may have hit a deer too far back. It always meant a very long very sparse blood trail. Sometimes we lost deer that were gut shot. I killed around 60 deer with dozens of different bhs. Some were really good and some were not. When rages came out I thought “what a piece of shit” and mocked others for shooting them. Then a friend gave me a pack as a gift. I decided to shoot a doe with one and see what happened. OMG where have these things been all my life!! I’m now at 43 deer and 7 hogs with rage. My 14 yr old has killed 8 with rage shooting 45lbs. All those animals down and NEVER had a problem with penetration. Most have been pass throughs. But when I don’t get an exit it’s never a problem. Also NEVER had one fail to open on contact, open in flight or come apart like all you haters say happens all the time. So I can only assume that you and the others that bash them have either never used them or don’t understand how to properly use them. And what started me on my rant. The benefit that you claim doesn’t exist is when you happen to make a poor shot. I no longer get that sick feeling. If you hit a deer through the body cavity no matter how far back you are probably gonna have no trouble finding him. As far as lost deer, if every deer hunter in the country from expert to beginners like you shot rages, I guarantee the number of lost deer would be cut in half
I shot rage, and not happy over all, mainly cause they are not always reliable, now swacker on the other hand, only mec broadhead I'll shoot now, cause literally screw it on and thats it, other than that fixed blade
Rage always pass through the deer I shoot
@Boxing 101 rage is junk. If you hit a bone. Your fucked
@Boxing 101 this is the most ignorant comment I've seen on here
@@kellybelanger3685 this is not true at all.
Watch this video to see how bad rage broadheads suck...
Graphic Rage Broadhead Highlights
Lost my first 3 deer I shot with with rages. Never shot them again.
Happened to me on three good bucks in one trip!! Devastating! and many others I know, amazing how many people ignore these countless horror stories with rage! Shoot heavy arrows and fixed blades and you'll never ever have a failure that isn't your own! Spread the word!
@@AO-ip6yx rage put me in a rage
Great video, would have been even better if they did start talking about religion....
I hate rage expandable all that crap but shoot what you like
No way will I ever use rage again. Junk
Why do so many broad head videos push religion at the end? Strange
For me its rage
2" entrence and exite
Rage is garbage if you don't shoot schwacker no reason to shoot at all.
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Rage is junk
Rage is over rated.
Cat Jack Tell the last 40 deer I’ve shot that. Zero failures Zero lost deer. Even on a couple very poor hits. If you pay attention to detail and make sure you didn’t knock your blades loose in the quiver. They will never come open in flight and they will always produce the best blood trail in the business
Yea that’s great glad the worked for ya I wouldn’t walk across the road with one but everyone has their opinion
Rage is junk!